The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it that
way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that way. They
are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on earth :
liars, murderers, spies ... you name it.
Thanks for welcoming me
You should amend that "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S.
government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or
warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." with something about shadowy
Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending habits...
"The wor
sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got came
from an individual
--
"This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies
including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of
sender or recipient."
John Francis Lee
246/3 Th
Hello,
> I'm somewhat disappointed about the troff software in Plan9.
Yes, that's understandable...
It seems to me nobody actually uses the software heavily here.
> I did few initial tests with eqn(1) and in addition to the TAB problem
> I saw that the root sign line and large brackets are not
> http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.1/02496.html
just when you think a given operating systems would
not be bastardized any further, some genius fucks it
to the next level.
launchd/smf and a webserver as process 1...
baffling, this is.
This is a valid observation, although as everything that has to do with
architecture, hard to prove.
(Don't use the P-word, that's reserved for Plato and Nietzsche.)
I also have the impression that the trend set by the original Unix
architecture (small, one-job components, generic interfaces)
i
The last two comments on this page might be of interest:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7640937
(I found that simply by searching using the 'site' operator on Google:
"site:news.ycombinator.com maidsafe" news.ycombinator.com is a good
place to read about a given startup.)
On Wed, Aug 13, 2
Please ignore my last message. It was intended for an entirely
different email thread. How embarrassing. (At least the SnR was
pretty low to begin with.)
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
> The last two comments on this page might be of interest:
>
> https://news.ycombinat
Dear Carsten,
first, I don't understand German (I am Czech), but I used google translate,
hopefully getting the meaning.
Second, it's generally better (unless it's really personal or highly technical)
to keep the discussion within the mailing list, since then other people
can also contribute; I a
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:02:46AM +0200, dante wrote:
>
>[...]
> I also have the impression that the trend set by the original Unix
> architecture (small, one-job components, generic interfaces)
> is nowadays replaced in many areas with integrated solutions
> ("frameworks") that provide non-se
you know where to get it, etc...
sorry, i am unable to help with this specific problem. i only
use the ms macros and use tex for anything more.
however, just fyi:
> Further there is a licencing issue on (I think) Lucida fonts
> (which can be only used on p9 but not on p9p),
the license for the lucida* fonts prohibits the creat
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 03:30:37AM -0700, c...@9.squish.org wrote:
>
> sorry, i am unable to help with this specific problem. i only
> use the ms macros and use tex for anything more.
>
Does anyone know if there has been any effort to use TeX and al. for the
system typesetting i.e. the manpages
> first, I don't understand German (I am Czech), but I used google translate,
> hopefully getting the meaning.
Sorry for that!
> Second, it's generally better (unless it's really personal or highly
> technical)
> to keep the discussion within the mailing list, since then other people
> can also c
On 13 August 2014 12:57, Carsten Kunze wrote:
> Since nobody seems to use troff on P9 I regarded it as off-topic.
The traffic is low enough to discuss any matter related to p9(p) here,
I believe. And it can be used as a back-reference in the future.
>> http://9fans.net/archive/?q=sykora+eqn&go
> >> http://9fans.net/archive/?q=sykora+eqn&go=Grep
> >
> > I can't believe that TeX should not produce better results, but
> > thats really OT...
>
> I don't understand what you mean.
I refer to http://9fans.net/archive/2011/12/113. I would expect
TeX to produce the best math results. But this
> Does anyone know if there has been any effort to use TeX and al. for the
> system typesetting i.e. the manpages and docs? (Translation of the troff
> macros to TeX ones etc.---not to mention that for TeX (kerTeX), it needs
> to be converted for utf-8 input; that's on my TODO list but I need to
>
What are the programming languages that were used to develop the Plan9?
Probably the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia
continue teaching coding in binary code, ie, machine language.
I say this because about three years ago the Riga Technical University
and University of Latvia
On 13 August 2014 14:16, Carsten Kunze wrote:
>> >> http://9fans.net/archive/?q=sykora+eqn&go=Grep
>> >
>> > I can't believe that TeX should not produce better results, but
>> > thats really OT...
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean.
>
> I refer to http://9fans.net/archive/2011/12/113. I would
> Still I don't get what you mean. In that message we say
> 1) quality of TeX typesetting is better,
> 2) the way the equation is written (the syntax) in eqn feels
> better to me.
Ok, I got that wrong.
> Just to be sure. I don't mean readability of documents to be typeset.
> I mean the source cod
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 02:22:00PM +0200, Carsten Kunze wrote:
>
>
> Is this really necessary for the system documentation? AFAIK P9 nroff/troff
> can handle utf-8. If there are problems with *roff they should be solved.
> *roff is a Bell Labs documentation system--it should be used for P9--IMO
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 03:13:38PM +0200, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
>
> Just to be sure. I don't mean readability of documents to be typeset.
> I mean the source code of the whole system. I.e., in the case of LaTeX,
> the readability/understanding/hackability of the macros' definitions.
>
And this li
Quoting françai s :
What are the programming languages that were used to develop the Plan9?
Probably the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia
continue teaching coding in binary code, ie, machine language.
I say this because about three years ago the Riga Technical University
an
> > I say this because about three years ago the Riga Technical University
> > and University of Latvia continued teaching coding in binary code, ie,
> > machine language.
that's great! very vew people understand how any machine really works.
it might not be something one can readily apply to ano
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:06:23AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> > > I say this because about three years ago the Riga Technical University
> > > and University of Latvia continued teaching coding in binary code, ie,
> > > machine language.
>
> that's great! very vew people understand how any
> Are there still human beings believing that "progress" is a function
> of chronology: the newer, the better?
I think there are many who believe that everything they find stressful
in the present will be taken care of in the next technological
iteration.
Lucio.
>On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:47:03 -0300
>françai s wrote:
>
> What are the programming languages that were used to develop the
> Plan9?
A dialect of C. The source code is in /sys/src.
> Probably the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia
> continue teaching coding in binary code, ie, m
> I'd rather say that p9p software is the source these days.
I wouldn't agree, p9p is a fork, much stuff gets ported both ways,
though some changes may have been missed.
I still use troff and tbl on plan9, occasionally I use eqn, last week
for the first time in ages.
I know there are some bugs b
> I still use troff and tbl on plan9, occasionally I use eqn, last week
> for the first time in ages.
What are the bugs in tbl you found? (I think it had been you who mentioned
it.)
> I know there are some bugs but I find it much easier to generate a simple
> document in troff than with MS Word,
> What are the bugs in tbl you found?
Mmm, I was worried you might ask that. I have an old document
that used to layout incorrectly, however I just tried it and it
is now fine - I wonder if the bug has been fixed ☺
The problem I had was a small - 1/23 inch, misalignment of
vertical edges of tab
> Mmm, I was worried you might ask that.
:-)
> I will dig through my venti and see if I can find an old copy
> which exhibits the problem...
Ok. If possible the lines between .TS/.TE to reproduce it (you may change the
text if its confidential).
--Carsten
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Jacob Todd wrote:
> BWK wrote a preprocessor for troff for drawing chemical structures long ago.
> I've ported it to plan 9 with just a small changes. If you would like to try
> it out just `9fs busybeingbrutal.org`, it's chem.tbz. I have only tested the
> examples
I have had a look, found a copy of the doc from 1996 and failed to reproduce
the problem.
I withdraw the accusation - tbl you are without bugs.
Sorry for the noise.
BTW: for troff related stuff I should mention http://www.troff.org is a good
resource.
-Steve
33 matches
Mail list logo
