[9fans] Virtualbox 4.2.14 and Plan 9

2013-07-08 Thread Carl Phillips
The 4.2.14 maintenance release (2013-06-21) of Virtualbox has a fix for the problem that stopped Plan 9 working with Virtualbox 4.2. From https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog : BIOS: don't use the ENTER / LEAVE instructions in the BIOS as these don't work in the real mode as set up by cer

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Steve McCoy
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:18:09 PM UTC-4, Rob Pike wrote: > I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is > therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use > 2-d input devices. > > -rob This is actually how I've worked on my MacBook for a while, so you'

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
I have ThinkPad T23 and the stick works with native Plan 9... ++pac On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Joseph Xu wrote: > I usually just lurk here, but I didn't want anybody else to go through > 3 different mice like I did (HP 3 button mouse, contour mouse, > evoluent mouse) before settling on the

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hi Rob, 2013/7/2 Rob Pike : > Let me put in a word about the Apple wireless trackpad. I doubt it's > got support in Plan 9, although it works from plan9port on the Mac. I > am devoted to it now: I use it for scrolling. Right hand for pointing > and clicking, left hand for scrolling. Works in acme,

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Nemo
On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:09 PM, "Devon H. O'Dell" wrote: > Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little > puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad > doohickey. I use one pad|mouse combined with Fn keys defined as mouse buttons (with chording). This

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |> But then, unfortunately, there were quite some copy errors which |> caused the installation to fail. |> |> /n/[newfs - dist]/68020/lib/{ape,libc.a} |> /n/[newfs - dist]/alpha/lib/{ape,libc.a} |> /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae/{archacpi,audioac97{,m},audiohd}.c |>

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Carl Phillips
On 08/07/13 13:06, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after "init: starting /bin/rc" with 100% CPU time ("Live CD": ~28%). I hope i find some time to try it on an old but physical Athlon system

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
Carl Phillips wrote: |On 08/07/13 13:06, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: |> Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 |> (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after "init: starting |> /bin/rc" with 100% CPU time ("Live CD": ~28%). I hope i find some |> time to try it

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread erik quanstrom
> The only thing which comes to my (user-space only) attention is > `igbe: unusable PciCLS: 0, using 8 longs'. Otherwise anything > looks good to me, except that, whatever i do, we loop hanging > after `init: starting /bin/rc'. that is a detail that matters only to physical devices. - erik

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:09:14AM -0400, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little > puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad > doohickey. I just have the trackpad built-in -- I don't have the > wireless trackpad -- but I

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Matthew Veety
On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:19, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:09:14AM -0400, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little >> puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad >> doohickey. I just have the trackpad buil

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Carl Phillips
I think you need the extension pack installed...if I uninstall it from this machine I can provoke the behaviour you describe with high cpu load and hangs after starting bin/rc. The install to disk option seems less prone to failure and sometimes it boots the live CD but takes a long time doing

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2013/7/8 Kurt H Maier : > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:09:14AM -0400, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little >> puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad >> doohickey. I just have the trackpad built-in -- I don't have the

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
Yapadapad! While biking i became enlightened. Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (minutes) and requires such a lot of CPU time (though of the VM) doing

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]

2013-07-08 Thread Matthew Veety
On Jul 8, 2013, at 15:55, Steffen "Daode" Nurpmeso wrote: > Yapadapad! > While biking i became enlightened. > Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). > It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via > DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread fgergo
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2013/7/2 Rob Pike : > > I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is > > therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use > > 2-d input devices. > why one would use two hands with the trackpad no ch

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Rob Pike
I sit at my desk with a computer (not a laptop) on the floor, a keyboard in front of me, a mouse on the right and a trackpad on the left. On the rare cases I'm programming on a laptop, it's really the same except for the location of the trackpad. In particular, there's still a mouse. -rob

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]

2013-07-08 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Well, maybe later, on the Athlon (i think trying notebook is hard). But anyway i'm happy to have a running 9atom now. (The ~28 percent CPU usage of VM i talked about is the idle load also when installed, btw. And awk doesn't support hex. Ciao.) On 8 July 2013 22:06, Matthew Veety wrote: > On J