On 17 July 2012 10:30, hiro neu <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
now just get that x series in the corner of the picture up and running :P
Calvin
-sent from my X220
those others are already working nicely ;)
also see http://h1ro.dyndns.org/nein/x20.jpg
and http://h1ro.dyndns.org/nein/ac100.jpg
On 17 July 2012 11:03, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> those others are already working nicely ;)
> also see http://h1ro.dyndns.org/nein/x20.jpg
> and http://h1ro.dyndns.org/nein/ac100.jpg
>
>
wow awesome!
Calvin
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:49:20 -0400
Wes Kussmaul wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 08:44 +, opryy...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Another neat comparison of 44 tiny devices:
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4035896/a320_downloads/SBC_comparison44.pdf
>
> No mention of the $16 Teensy? http://www.pjrc.com/
I
> Actually I've toyed with the idea of a "Plan 9 from 8-bit space". It
> would be a fun challenge, I think, and I'd be interested to find
> exactly what compromises would be needed. It may even be less of a
> challenge than writing drivers for the crap peripherals ARM SOCs always
> seem to be burde
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:42:55 -0400
erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Thinking it over, I'd rather use the regular Linux toolchain for the
> > task. You can still write sensible C for gcc to compile, and I think
>
> we don't know what the task is.
Fair point. I had stared at the email until I thought
More to the point, you don't want any OS on an 8 bit machine.
A small driver library, maybe. But really, 8 bit machines today are
just for fun little micro-control projects and you really don't want
an OS in the way.
The first thing I did to make an arduino useful was reclaim the timer
thread tha
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:53:05PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
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> you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine.
>
> - erik
>
Thanks for letting him know, erik. Please also explain his other
hardware opinions, I think he's looking for a keyboard
it's an Atmel AVR. we did z[acl] for the ATmega128 in the Berkeley mote,
which is an 8-bit AVR, and I wrote a little 16/32 bit kernel for it.
On 17 July 2012 17:51, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> It's an 8-bit, what are you going to put on it,
You do on the wireless motes, because you have several networks and a file
system.
There isn't a "user mode" of course, but there are applications. ours was a
noise
monitoring system to some international noise-monitoring standard.
On 17 July 2012 18:33, Paul Lalonde wrote:
> A small driver libr
On Tue Jul 17 13:35:18 EDT 2012, kh...@intma.in wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:53:05PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> >
> > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine.
> >
> > - erik
> >
>
> Thanks for letting him know, erik. Please also explain his other
> hardware opinions, I think he's
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 02:16:00PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> it's an opinion that 8 bits don't have mmus?
> that's taking relativism to a whole new level.
>
your original message didn't contain anything approaching useful content
> you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine.
Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p
on such a machine. Every time we get to this point in this
(recurring) conversation, I'm compelled to make sure everyone
has seen the excellent Styx on a Brick paper, describing work
to export
On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote:
> > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine.
>
> Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p
> on such a machine. Every time we get to this point in this
> (recurring) conversation, I'm compelled to make sure everyone
> has
https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work)
On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, "erik quanstrom" wrote:
> On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote:
>
> > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine.
> >
> > Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p
> > on such a m
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:13 BST Ethan Grammatikidis
wrote:
> Actually I've toyed with the idea of a "Plan 9 from 8-bit space". It
> would be a fun challenge, I think, and I'd be interested to find
> exactly what compromises would be needed. It may even be less of a
> challenge than writing driv
why does this have a .cpp file?
On 7/17/12, Eli Cohen wrote:
> https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work)
> On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, "erik quanstrom" wrote:
>
>> On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote:
>>
>> > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine.
>> >
>> > Whi
> Actually it doesn't have to be 9p. It can be something
> simpler.
you should read the iwp9 papers!
- erik
On 7/17/12, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:13 BST Ethan Grammatikidis
> wrote:
>> Actually I've toyed with the idea of a "Plan 9 from 8-bit space". It
>> would be a fun challenge, I think, and I'd be interested to find
>> exactly what compromises would be needed. It may even be les
> > What would be possible is to build a general purpose
> > building block. Something like this:
> > - provide a tiny thread library
> > - provide 9p over USB|serial|UDP
> > - implement a simple 9p server framework & export a server
> > side interface where one can plug in sensor/actuator
> >
On 2012-07-17 21:16 , erik quanstrom wrote:
>> Actually it doesn't have to be 9p. It can be something
>> simpler.
> you should read the iwp9 papers!
>
> - erik
>
by the way, are there papers/slides from 6th(2011)? haven't seen them
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:33:59 EDT erik quanstrom wrote:
> > > What would be possible is to build a general purpose
> > > building block. Something like this:
> > > - provide a tiny thread library
> > > - provide 9p over USB|serial|UDP
> > > - implement a simple 9p server framework & export a serve
Arduino uses C++. I guess it could be a .c file, though.
On Jul 17, 2012 12:14 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> why does this have a .cpp file?
>
> On 7/17/12, Eli Cohen wrote:
> > https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work)
> > On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, "erik quanstrom"
> wro
> by the way, are there papers/slides from 6th(2011)? haven't seen them
; hget http://iwp9.org/iwp96e.pdf|page
- erik
> don't forget jeff's pic controllers.
perhaps I have forgotten, perhaps I missed them
link please ?
-Steve
On Tue Jul 17 16:34:44 EDT 2012, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> > don't forget jeff's pic controllers.
>
> perhaps I have forgotten, perhaps I missed them
>
> link please ?
see http://9fans.net/archive/2012/07/49
http://4e.iwp9.org/papers/levitation.pdf
- erik
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis
wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:15:26 +0100
> "Steve Simon" wrote:
>
>> Various projects have worked on 8c to make it generate code for other OSs,
>> have any of these resulted in code that could generate a very _very_ simple
>> ELF shared libr
Thanks to all who have replied.
I have spoken to russ; 8l may be able to generate object files soon,
but there is no plan for support for shared libraries.
Its OK, I still have some options:
use gcc/gas/gld on linux
generate the shared library as a blind data file on plan9
I don't think any of them generate the right addressing to implement a
dynamic library (in the Linux style).
Data is addressed directly, assuming one data per text. Dynamic libraries
need to create a data segment
for each application sharing the library text, so the references to the
data somehow n
i wonder if you could use the gs global register trick
and a bit of runtime setup to implement this.
(ducks)
- erik
thanks for all the links - this thread is getting useful :)
Normally with these schemes you need to save and restore the module (data)
pointer appropriately for calls in and out of the library.
Each library has its own data. For the library to be used by Linux
applications you'd need to mimic the conventions expected by the Linux
programs closely. The code
just use cygwin
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