Re: [9fans] The creepy WORM. (was: Re: Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience)

2012-05-20 Thread Charles Forsyth
those restrictions are not necessary On 20 May 2012 04:13, Bakul Shah wrote: > This last point is more or less independent of the FS (as long > as an io buffer is page aligned and io count is a multiple of > page size). >

Re: [9fans] The creepy WORM. (was: Re: Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience)

2012-05-20 Thread Charles Forsyth
we don't compute on file servers On 20 May 2012 04:13, Bakul Shah wrote: > When you suddenly need > lots of memory for some memory intensive computation, it may > be too late to evacuate the memory of your FS data >

Re: [9fans] The creepy WORM. (was: Re: Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience)

2012-05-20 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
On May 20, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > > How often would you flush to disk? You still need to worry about the order > of writing metadata. > that's the nice thing. it's so simple I don't have to worry about order. you write new blocks and, once all of them reached the disk withou

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-20 Thread Matthew Veety
On May 20, 2012, at 8:45 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> PS. You have >44000 unread messages?!?!?!?!? -- Veety > > you don't? it's an archive mailbox. > > - erik > Mailboxes are complicated. I only have three: Inbox, Sent, and Trash. -- Veety

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> PS. You have >44000 unread messages?!?!?!?!? -- Veety you don't? it's an archive mailbox. - erik

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> Mailboxes are complicated. I only have three: Inbox, Sent, and Trash. [citation needed]. i didn't say the mailbox was owned by me. our system has ~1.2m messages in ~1k folders spread among ~100 users. i would say to claim that mailboxes are complicated you'd need to also claim that file and d

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 09:02:03AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > i didn't say the mailbox was owned by me. our system has > ~1.2m messages in ~1k folders spread among ~100 users. Thanks for letting us know

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-20 Thread Bruce Ellis
out of interest does gmail do something useful when presenting mail that is labeled? brucee On 20 May 2012 23:02, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Mailboxes are complicated. I only have three: Inbox, Sent, and Trash. > > [citation needed]. > > i didn't say the mailbox was owned by me.  our system has >

[9fans] Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
I had hg complaining about the owner of the system wide hgrc on 9front so I did what I thought was most obvious and tried a chown of the file. No chown. So I did a google and found that plan9 doesn't have chown or anything like chown because that concept doesn't exist on plan9. This seems a bit f

Re: [9fans] Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

2012-05-20 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 20 May 2012 15:43, Burton Samograd wrote: > Could somebody explain to me why there is no concept of chown on plan9 and > what > is the plan9 way around changing the owners and groups of files?  Thanks. I think you're looking for chgrp -u. cls

Re: [9fans] Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

2012-05-20 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun May 20 10:44:12 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote: > I had hg complaining about the owner of the system wide hgrc on 9front so > I did what I thought was most obvious and tried a chown of the file. No > chown. > So I did a google and found that plan9 doesn't have chown or anything

[9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
I have no idea how, but my /tmp disappeared, making editing files with sam impossible. I tried to bind -c $home/tmp /tmp but i get the complaint that the mounted directory doesn't allow creation. Any advice? -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun May 20 12:57:10 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote: > I have no idea how, but my /tmp disappeared, making editing files with > sam impossible. I tried to bind -c $home/tmp /tmp but i get the complaint > that the mounted directory doesn't allow creation. Any advice? temporarly, you

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
> temporarly, you could run ramfs. but the real problem would > probablly be authentication. what does /dev/user tell you? /dev/user says the correct user. I've tried logging in with both my username and glenda and both have the same problem. When I try to mkdir /tmp as it's completely missing

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
I guess i'm looking for 'mount -o remount,rw /' or something equivalent if that exists. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread andrew zerger
Do you have a $home/tmp directory? If you were to do the equiv mount -o remount command it would be to mount $home/tmp to /tmp, but Im not fluent on the syntax. On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Burton Samograd wrote: > I guess i'm looking for 'mount -o remount,rw /' or something > equivalent if

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread David du Colombier
If you were using Fossil, that would be: echo fsys main create /tmp sys sys d775 >>/srv/fscons I don't recall what is the exact equivalence on your file system, but it should be something like: create /tmp sys sys d775 in you file system console. -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM, andrew zerger wrote: > Do you have a $home/tmp directory? If you were to do the equiv mount -o > remount command it would be to mount $home/tmp to /tmp, but Im not fluent on > the syntax. The bigger problem is that my /tmp is gone so I can't mount anything there

Re: [9fans] Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

2012-05-20 Thread David du Colombier
> Could somebody explain to me why there is no concept of chown on > plan9 and what is the plan9 way around changing the owners and groups > of files? Thanks. You could use the "chgrp -u" command, but it will only work if you mounted the file system allowing arbitrary changes with wstat. The Foss

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Anthony Sorace
On May 20, 2012, at 13:29 , David du Colombier wrote: > echo fsys main create /tmp sys sys d775 >>/srv/fscons turn that "/tmp" into "/active/tmp" i think, no? also, for the original question: as a quick hack to get around this, i believe you could run mntgen on / so that /tmp magically shows up

Re: [9fans] Changing ownership of files or chown is missing

2012-05-20 Thread Anthony Sorace
On May 20, 2012, at 10:43 , Burton Samograd wrote: > Could somebody explain to me why there is no concept of > chown on plan9 and what is the plan9 way around changing > the owners and groups of files? Thanks. it's simply not part of the model. we tend to use groups for many things modern unixes

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread David du Colombier
> turn that "/tmp" into "/active/tmp" i think, no? The "/active" part is not mandatory. It assumes / is /active by default. -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-20 Thread Antonio Barrones
On May 17, 4:22 pm, burton.samog...@gmail.com (Burton Samograd) wrote: > People are saying that the Wavelan PC24E-H-FC is working with plan9. > I found a Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI. Any idea if this will work? > > -- > Burton Samograd I have that card and it works without problems. It is an or

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread steve
a simpler way might be to: mount -c /srv/fossil /n/fossil mkdir /n/fossil/tmp always assuming you are using fossil and you have write permission in / which probably means you must be hostowner. -Steve On 20 May 2012, at 07:04 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > On May 20, 2012, at 13:29 , Da

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 20 May 2012 18:56, Burton Samograd wrote: > I have no idea how, but my /tmp disappeared, making editing files with > sam impossible.  I tried to bind -c $home/tmp /tmp but i get the complaint > that the mounted directory doesn't allow creation.  Any advice? > > -- > Burton Samograd > Somewhat

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread andrew zerger
Well, my hostowner user cant seem to fudge the /tmp either (not by any sane means such as unmount or rm) if that might reveal anything (including anything about my own installation, which is admittedly mostly neglected). Im on qemu-kvm and bell's plan9.iso rather than anything 9front, however (pra

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-20 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sat, 19 May 2012 22:06:05 +0100 Charles Forsyth wrote: > Oh my whiskers! Oh my paws! Can't we make this stop? I suppose you'll now > start posting incomplete things with the frail excuse that "you haven't got > a keyboard" and "posted from my ipad". > > On 19 May 2012 21:54, Steve Simon wrot

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Charles Forsyth
the hostowner might not have permission to write in / on the file system (ie, it's not like unix's "root") if you try the mount -c /srv/boot /n/boot method: h% mount -c /srv/boot /n/boot h% ls -ld /n/boot d-rwxrwxr-x M 62152 adm adm 0 Mar 2 2010 /n/boot on my system, i'd need to be adm o

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
For now, the following works for me: mntgen / bind -c $home/tmp /tmp I just added it to my lib/profile and everything is good now. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
> I have that card and it works without problems. It is an orinoco silver > pcmcia. > I have another similar, lucent Orinoco, but this time is a Compaq > WL110 and this doesn't work, it is the PCE24E-H-JP Awesome, thanks. I clicked the 'Buy Now' button and couldn't back out, so I'm glad to know I

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Burton Samograd
Another noob question; how do you start the fs console on cwfs64x? I tried 'con /srv/cwfs.cmd' but get nothing back. The docs I can find all relate to fossil and which doesn't look to work the same. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:21:48 -0600 Burton Samograd wrote: > Another noob question; how do you start the fs console on cwfs64x? I > tried 'con /srv/cwfs.cmd' but get nothing back. The docs I can find > all relate to fossil and which doesn't look to work the same. I'm doing this today too. I fo

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread cinap_lenrek
term% ls -l /srv/cwfs.cmd ---w--w s 0 cinap_lenrek cinap_lenrek 0 May 5 10:27 /srv/cwfs.cmd its write only. output of cwfs goes to /dev/cons (you can capture the output with /dev/kmesg or /dev/kprint). the runtime commands are described in fs(8). some commands apply only to the stand alone k

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread erik quanstrom
> echo fsys main create /tmp sys sys d775 >>/srv/fscons > > I don't recall what is the exact equivalence on your > file system, but it should be something like: > > create /tmp sys sys d775 create tmp sys sys 755 d - erik

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread kokamoto
> For now, the following works for me: > > mntgen / > bind -c $home/tmp /tmp Ah, you are running diskless 9front machine? If so, I might have this solution, too. I'm not runnig diskless 9front machine now though... Kenji