Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
the trouble with the zeroing pages scheme, which has been done before (eg, having the process with least priority top up the memory), is that it was great when the system wasn't under load, just fine under increased load, but eventually, when you most want your cycles, you're back in the original s

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
>sure but we are talking about x86_64, which has a limited number of >possible page sizes no, it doesn't.

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
>>sure but we are talking about x86_64, which has a limited number of >>possible page sizes >no, it doesn't. i cut off that message: what do we usually do when the hardware doesn't do quite what we'd like? admittedly, if it had only Gbyte and 2 Mbyte pages, then indeed, there wouldn't be much t

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Miller
> Any idea how much work it would be to adapt that for the nokia n900? No need for the android version on maemo - standard hosted inferno "just works" on the n900. I've been running it for quite a while (or was until my pocket was picked in Paris last week ☹). I'll have to go back to my n800 (=n

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Mathieu Lonjaret
Good to know, thanks! On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> Any idea how much work it would be to adapt that for the nokia n900? > > No need for the android version on maemo - standard hosted > inferno "just works" on the n900.  I've been running it for >

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:23:01 -0700 John Floren wrote: > We would like to announce the availability of Inferno for Android > phones. Because our slogan is "If it ain't broke, break it", we > decided to replace the Java stack on Android phones with > Inferno. We've dubbed it the Hellaphone--it was

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
OK, more data this morning. Since the cyanogen upgrade, no linux vm I have on OSX/VMWare can enumerate the phone over USB. This is a very common problem as revealed by any search. On the one linux box I have, the phone is enumerated as a USB storage. There may be some setting I need to reset ...

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 09:29 -0700, ron minnich wrote: > If I can figure out where to plug in an SD card -- it claims to > have one! -- I might just give that a go. The MicroSD slot in my Droid X is hidden under the battery fwiw.

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 09:29 -0700, ron minnich wrote: >> If I can figure out where to plug in an SD card -- it claims to >> have one! -- I might just give that a go. > > The MicroSD slot in my Droid X is hidden under the battery fwiw. > > >

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > John, turn a camera on and film the phone while using it, please! > > Terrible video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF_-jQc53jw Some screenshots are available at https://bitbucket.org/floren/inferno/wiki/Home John

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Joel Armstrong
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:29 AM, ron minnich wrote: > > OK, more data this morning. > > Since the cyanogen upgrade, no linux vm I have on OSX/VMWare can > enumerate the phone over USB. This is a very common problem as > revealed by any search. > > On the one linux box I have, the phone is enumerat

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Joel Armstrong
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, John Floren wrote: > > Terrible video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF_-jQc53jw Pretty good for being shot with a laptop webcam! I think incoming calls should be working, though, unless I screwed something up between last week and now (which is likely). The pho

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-17 Thread erik quanstrom
hey noah, what's the mailing list? - erik

Re: [9fans] gar nix!

2011-09-17 Thread Noah Evans
nix-...@googlegroups.com Noah On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > hey noah, what's the mailing list? > > - erik > >

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
joel, on osx, some scripts are not there. I was more concerned about this than the flash failures because I'm not sure what they do. sh: mkbootimg: command not found Where did your version of this one come from? It's nowhere on my machine. ron

Re: [9fans] NIX 64-bit kernel is available

2011-09-17 Thread Brantley Coile
hee hee Brantley On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Dan Cross wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM, John Floren wrote: >> I don't want to drag out the discussion, but: >> >> 1. Nixie is pretty much generic these days. Wikipedia even calls it a >> genericised trademark. >> 2. Nixies are also Germ

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Joel Armstrong
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:26 PM, ron minnich wrote: > joel, on osx, some scripts are not there. I was more concerned about > this than the flash failures because I'm not sure what they do. > > sh: mkbootimg: command not found > > Where did your version of this one come from? It's nowhere on my mac

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread Joel Armstrong
> It comes from the full Android source. I guess it doesn't make sense > for it to be in the SDK. The android git server is dead right now, but > you can fetch a mirror of this specific sub-project at > https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_system_core/android_system_core. URL correction: it's htt

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
Slight correction: git clone https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_system_core cd android_system_core/ cd libmincrypt/ gcc -I../include/ -o sha.o -c sha.c mv sha.o ../mkbootimg/ cd ../mkbootimg/ gcc -I../include/ -c mkbootimg.c gcc -o mkbootimg mkbootimg.o sha.o Although most of you will get that

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
A few corrections. > $ adb shell mount -o remount,rw / > $ adb push boot-inferno.img adb push work/boot-inferno.img /boot-inferno.img > $ adb shell > Now you'll be in an Android shell. > android$ cat /proc/mtd > This will hopefully give you a list of "mtd" devices and their names. > We only care

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
OK, I just adb pushed the tar file over and untar'ed and things were more complete. So it's up on my nexus-s too. John, would recommend putting OSX and linux versions of fastboot and mkbootimg into the tar file or on the web page. I can tell it's inferno because I hit a button and get instant res

[9fans] inferno on android on slashdot

2011-09-17 Thread erik quanstrom
hot grits! - erik

Re: [9fans] inferno on android on slashdot

2011-09-17 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> hot grits! you're dating yourself :) slashdot was better back then. now it's all whiny kids who like bells and whistles: "Seems to me Android has more interesting visuals in its robotic fingernail than Inferno on mobile has"

Re: [9fans] inferno on android on slashdot

2011-09-17 Thread Nick LaForge
Hey Erik, I thought you'd said you didn't read Slashdot! On 9/17/11, erik quanstrom wrote: > hot grits! > > - erik > >

Re: [9fans] Announcing Inferno for Android phones

2011-09-17 Thread andrey mirtchovski
the video shows the OS to be pretty snappy, John. thanks!

Re: [9fans] inferno on android on slashdot

2011-09-17 Thread andrey mirtchovski
of course, being well-tuned to the needs of the younger generation I have prepared some tools that should allow them to, if not stay off our lawn then at least be quiet while trampling it. i don't have an android phone, but those should run on it, i think: http://mirtchovski.com/code/code_files/so

Re: [9fans] inferno on android on slashdot

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
It comes free with the usual high level of slashdot cluelessness. But that's what one should expect :-) ron

[9fans] gs on amd64

2011-09-17 Thread erik quanstrom
does anyone have a ghostscript that works with amd64? i can get gs to display man pages and the stuff in /sys/doc, but not, e.g., the intel arch pdfs. chula; page docs/intel/v3b.pdf reading through pdf... Ghostscript Error: Error: /undefined in --setcolor-- Operand stack: --dict:8/8(L)-- (In)

Re: [9fans] gs on amd64

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
I would give ratrace a go. ron

Re: [9fans] gs on amd64

2011-09-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Sep 17 21:53:06 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > I would give ratrace a go. > ratrace on amd64 produces no output. - erik

Re: [9fans] gs on amd64

2011-09-17 Thread ron minnich
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sat Sep 17 21:53:06 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: >> I would give ratrace a go. >> > > ratrace on amd64 produces no output. I know. geoff fixed it on 9 and I need to get his fix into nix. I just keep forgetting to figure out how he

Re: [9fans] my kingdom for a web browser :-P

2011-09-17 Thread stephano zanzin
Things are becoming very complex. Chromium even process C++ in the client-side, civilization is dying. On 9/16/11, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 03:56:18PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:11:00 +0300 >> Aram H?v?rneanu wrote: >> >> > And I don'

[9fans] toff fonts

2011-09-17 Thread cinap_lenrek
trying to render special unicode character 0x2019 in troff. but pr2post fails with: /386/bin/aux/tr2post: :31 :WARNING: cannot find glyph, rune=0x2019 stoken=<’> troff font R now looking in: /sys/lib/postscript/troff/R 0x2000 0x20ff LucidaSansUnicode20 but in: /sys/lib/troff/font/devutf/R