Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread blstuart
> Starting Goal: a modern, standards compliant web engine library for Plan 9 As others have pointed out that's pretty hard to define, but in the current web world, you can cover a surprisingly large fraction of sites if you have good JavaScript and CSS support. Running Java in the browser isn't

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> There's one other possibility that I've thought about. Inferno's > browser charon is more capable than it might appear. It has > some degree of JavaScript support. The main thing I've noticed > when trying to use it for some day-to-day browsing is that > it lacks CSS and could use some work on

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 04:56:40 PM blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: > > Starting Goal: a modern, standards compliant web engine library > > for Plan 9 > > As others have pointed out that's pretty hard to define, > Agreed, I did try to make an attempt at a modicum of a definition to work from, bu

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> I suspect netsurf might actually be better to work from than charon, > if only because netsurf is already written c rather than limbo, and > has already been ported to many platforms. unless i've completely misunderstood, brian is suggesting to run charon in plan 9-hosted inferno. - erik

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 06:44:42 PM erik quanstrom wrote: > > I suspect netsurf might actually be better to work from than charon, > > if only because netsurf is already written c rather than limbo, and > > has already been ported to many platforms. > > unless i've completely misunderstood, brian

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> I'll risk venturing an opinion on that approach: > > Running a plan 9 hosted inferno is essentially another take on the vnc or > linuxemu workarounds. It won't provide the same freedoms and benefits > of a native library/engine/framework. what freedoms are those? - erik

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 07:38:43 PM erik quanstrom wrote: > > I'll risk venturing an opinion on that approach: > > > > Running a plan 9 hosted inferno is essentially another take on the vnc or > > linuxemu workarounds. It won't provide the same freedoms and benefits > > of a native library/engine/

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> The freedom _from_ an extra, extraneous, alien environment. [1] but it's a web browser. it's already an alien environment. :-) > The freedom _for_ building a variety of native front-ends. > > The freedom _for_ integrating with existing native libraries. what's the advantage here? i don'

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM, errno wrote: > etc. Just wondering if you have looked at webfs. ron

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Simon
Just to add some more confusion to the mix, there was a port of an early charon release from limbo to c, called 'i' - the single letter. This worked to the point of working like a buggy abaco (perhaps I am unfair but that is what it feels like), Its on sources (in contrib/extra I think). I'am not

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 08:15:12 PM erik quanstrom wrote: > > The freedom _from_ an extra, extraneous, alien environment. [1] > > but it's a web browser. it's already an alien environment. :-) > Man I had hunch you would say that. :) Inferno is an alien environment too, but you don't run lin