Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-30 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:39:38 - smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: > If I were filling out an Acme wishlist, I would like to see triple and > quadruple clicks select larger chunks of text. Being able to do > something like click-click-click-click to "Select All" (in those apps > that support it) i

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread errno
On Friday, April 29, 2011 11:26:03 PM Anthony Sorace wrote: > On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:05 AM, errno wrote: > > But APE has c++ (old version of gcc though). > > APE has no c++. there is a very old version of gcc floating around on > sources that can, with some effort, sometimes be made to compile th

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread Steve Simon
First I assume you have used abaco - it is incomplete but its the best plan9 has at present - without using linuxemu. There is cfront c++ but this is so old it would probably not be worth getting it to work - templates never worked in AT&T cfront. The exception to this the HP cfront implementat

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread errno
On Saturday, April 30, 2011 01:25:53 AM Steve Simon wrote: > First I assume you have used abaco - it is incomplete but its the best > plan9 has at present - without using linuxemu. > I appreciate abaco for what it is, but unfortunately it's not something I can expect to satisfy most users' activi

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 GSoC projects selected

2011-04-30 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 30 Apr 2011, at 3:42 am, errno wrote: I know you already received more info, but there was also this recent thread related to the topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/plan9-gsoc@googlegroups.com/msg00431.html Ah, that's the clearest thing yet. Thanks. I should have checked the plan9-gsoc

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 30 Apr 2011, at 9:16 am, errno wrote: So, shaking this out just a bit further: (anyone reading, please just ignore this if you find it too long, and/or too annoying, and/or too naive - or whatever - I'd rather hear crickets chirping than hecklers carping - thanks) I hope you won't find th

Re: [9fans] An acme question

2011-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Apr 30 03:07:39 EDT 2011, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:39:38 - smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: > > > If I were filling out an Acme wishlist, I would like to see triple and > > quadruple clicks select larger chunks of text. Being able to do > > something like click

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread smiley
errno writes: > Due to the requirements, it appears that incorporating the web as a > 1st-class-platform in plan 9 is effectively unapproachable: You forgot to backtrack to your webkit/gecko choicepoint and follow down the gecko goal tree. -- +--

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread smiley
Anthony Sorace writes: > because it's a huge amount of work. there's a whole pile of standards and > pseudo-standards to deal with, the set is ever-growing, the components are > ever-growing, and there isn't really a good definition of "correct". Perhaps there's a "Plan 9" way to approach the pr

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Perhaps there's a "Plan 9" way to approach the problem which might involve a "less-huge" amount of work. There is nothing "Plan 9" about this. When a piece of code gets so large as to be impossible to understand, it's time to throw it out and start over. Where we as "engineers" fail is in n

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread errno
On Saturday, April 30, 2011 03:21:09 PM smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: > errno writes: > > Due to the requirements, it appears that incorporating the web as a > > 1st-class-platform in plan 9 is effectively unapproachable: > > You forgot to backtrack to your webkit/gecko choicepoint and follow > d

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Gecko is also written primarily in c++, which means porting a c++ compiler to plan 9 would still remain a prerequisite for that path also. No, it's written in a combination of g++- and whatever Visual Studio calls C++ for its current release. You cannot port that shit. Nor should you. --lynd

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread errno
On Saturday, April 30, 2011 04:33:23 PM Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > Gecko is also written primarily in c++, which means porting a c++ > > compiler to plan 9 would still remain a prerequisite for that path also. > > No, it's written in a combination of g++- and > whatever Visual Studio calls C++ fo

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
One thing with webkit is at least the option is there to use a different compiler (llvm/clang). And it looks like they're in the initial stages of unifying the build system to gyp (written in python, which Plan 9 already supports) - which is far better than autotools IMHO. For the last year I'

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-04-30 Thread dexen deVries
On Sunday 01 of May 2011 00:45:48 Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > Perhaps there's a "Plan 9" way to approach the problem which might > > involve a "less-huge" amount of work. > > There is nothing "Plan 9" about this. When a piece of code gets so large > as to be impossible to understand, it's time to