> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:26, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > i don't know
> > what versions of fat 2e supported, but i would imagine restricting
> > oneself to fat16 (and not fat16 lba) would be safest.
>
> i used fat16, i think lba. i figured plan 9 would be smart enough to
> deal with lba and larg
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:23, John Floren wrote:
> Ok, first note that I didn't have any luck with QEMU, I had to install
> on an actual 486.
i have the same error with both qemu and period hardware. i'm running
qemu-8.2.0 and a pentium 266MHz laptop. on the laptop both my freedos
partition and s
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM, michael block wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:49, John Floren wrote:
>> With a little help from FreeDOS, I am now successfully running 2e
>
> i can't get past the first disk. it seems there is no "suitable" fat
> partition. no amount of partitioning and formattin
> I booted the FreeDOS disk and created a small partition (something
> like 50 MB) on the hard disk, leaving the rest unpartitioned. Then I
> installed FreeDOS to the small partition and started the Plan 9
> installation.
i don't have the 2e sources so i'm guessing. (apologies.)i don't know
what
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:49, John Floren wrote:
> With a little help from FreeDOS, I am now successfully running 2e
i can't get past the first disk. it seems there is no "suitable" fat
partition. no amount of partitioning and formatting under freedos or
freebsd results in anything disk one will p
probably the easiest of the three to deal with, if someone were
really, really inclined.
but really: don't be. these are kernels for very, very outdated
platforms, some of which even eBay has trouble turning up. cobbling
That's besides the point. This stuff should be saved for
posterity, and h
>anyway, to ron's question, for those keeping score:
>Sun: released their stuff; recently acquired by Oracle.
>NeXT: acquired by Apple, ate it from within.
>MIPS: acquired by SGI. a smaller MIPS was then spit out when SGI
>realized Itanium was their future (oops).
>SGI: went backrupt, twice, then a
> i was going to say that having Plan 9 ported to your platform seemed
> like a bad omen for your company, but equally valid is the observation
> that being a platform vender (other than Apple) is bad for your
> company.
ibm seems to be doing ok. but sequent, the original
home of ken's fs kernel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:45, ron minnich wrote:
> I wonder how many of the companies involved still exist :-)
i suspect ron knows all this already; this is intended for anyone else
who comes along and thinks this might make getting 2e CDs out easier
(instead of harder). again, this is all from m
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 AM, John Floren wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
>> As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might
>> be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition
>> books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find
>> a set seccond hand (ab
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> the CD includes sources to the kernel on platforms which required NDAs
> to get the information to do the port. part of the NDA, as i
> understand it, required the sorts of restrictions on redistribution in
> the commercial license. people hav
the CD includes sources to the kernel on platforms which required NDAs
to get the information to do the port. part of the NDA, as i
understand it, required the sorts of restrictions on redistribution in
the commercial license. people have tried to get at least some bits of
that opened up, and at le
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might
> be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition
> books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find
> a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc).
>
> The floppys are here:
> /n/sources/c
> The 4th edition should run on a 486, though you will need
> (say) 128Mb of ram - much more if you want to recompile gs(1).
All versions of Plan 9 need an FPU (awk usually caught me out) so
beware of 486SX chips.
++L
the floppies were available without the book+cd; at least as late as
1996 i remember downloading them from at&t's web site. they
represented a fairly minimal system. i don't remember specifically,
but it seems likely that there were license terms specific to the
download.
I was under the impression that it was a sort of evaluation thing, and
then I guess you bought the license which gave you source and other
stuff. I'm probably wrong.
You bought the book set from Prentice Hall. It came with a set of
floppies, a CDROM, and a hardcopy of the license (which preclud
>And the floppy is available at
>http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/2nd_edition/plan9.att.com/pcdist/ but I
>have not tested it, if you do I would love to hear about it.
I had found that about a year ago, and was able to get the floppy set
up and running in Virtual PC without much trouble. It'll only wo
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might
> be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition
> books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find
> a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc).
>
> The floppys are here:
> /n/sources/
>
> The 4th edition should run on a 486, though you will need
> (say) 128Mb of ram - much more if you want to recompile gs(1).
>
i got a couple of 64mb via terminals a few years ago.
they were fine for normal work, compiling the kernel,
even with the giant myricom driver, even with 64mb.
cpu(1)
As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might
be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition
books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find
a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc).
The floppys are here:
/n/sources/contrib/steve/historic/2nd-edition/pcdist/
I found a complete mi
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> that was for 2nd edition. it's now horribly outdated.
>
> it is also only available under an older, for-pay license that i'm not
> sure it's actually possible to buy any more.
>
> you don't actually want that set unless you're doing archeolog
that was for 2nd edition. it's now horribly outdated.
it is also only available under an older, for-pay license that i'm not
sure it's actually possible to buy any more.
you don't actually want that set unless you're doing archeology.
Looking at the very old mailing list archives, I noticed something
about a 3-disk (or was it 4-disk?) floppy-based distribution of the
earliest PC dist. Is that still available in some form? I just came
into possession of a stack of floppies and a pair of 486s and I'm
ready to dare to be stupid.
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