Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread hiro
thanks for all the links - this thread is getting useful :)

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jul 17 16:34:44 EDT 2012, st...@quintile.net wrote: > > don't forget jeff's pic controllers. > > perhaps I have forgotten, perhaps I missed them > > link please ? see http://9fans.net/archive/2012/07/49 http://4e.iwp9.org/papers/levitation.pdf - erik

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Steve Simon
> don't forget jeff's pic controllers. perhaps I have forgotten, perhaps I missed them link please ? -Steve

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> by the way, are there papers/slides from 6th(2011)? haven't seen them ; hget http://iwp9.org/iwp96e.pdf|page - erik

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Eli Cohen
Arduino uses C++. I guess it could be a .c file, though. On Jul 17, 2012 12:14 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > why does this have a .cpp file? > > On 7/17/12, Eli Cohen wrote: > > https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work) > > On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, "erik quanstrom" > wro

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:33:59 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > > > What would be possible is to build a general purpose > > > building block. Something like this: > > > - provide a tiny thread library > > > - provide 9p over USB|serial|UDP > > > - implement a simple 9p server framework & export a serve

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Oleksandr Iakovliev
On 2012-07-17 21:16 , erik quanstrom wrote: >> Actually it doesn't have to be 9p. It can be something >> simpler. > you should read the iwp9 papers! > > - erik > by the way, are there papers/slides from 6th(2011)? haven't seen them signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> > What would be possible is to build a general purpose > > building block. Something like this: > > - provide a tiny thread library > > - provide 9p over USB|serial|UDP > > - implement a simple 9p server framework & export a server > > side interface where one can plug in sensor/actuator > >

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread hiro
On 7/17/12, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:13 BST Ethan Grammatikidis > wrote: >> Actually I've toyed with the idea of a "Plan 9 from 8-bit space". It >> would be a fun challenge, I think, and I'd be interested to find >> exactly what compromises would be needed. It may even be les

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> Actually it doesn't have to be 9p. It can be something > simpler. you should read the iwp9 papers! - erik

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread hiro
why does this have a .cpp file? On 7/17/12, Eli Cohen wrote: > https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work) > On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, "erik quanstrom" wrote: > >> On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote: >> >> > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. >> > >> > Whi

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:13 BST Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > Actually I've toyed with the idea of a "Plan 9 from 8-bit space". It > would be a fun challenge, I think, and I'd be interested to find > exactly what compromises would be needed. It may even be less of a > challenge than writing driv

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Eli Cohen
https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work) On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, "erik quanstrom" wrote: > On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote: > > > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. > > > > Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p > > on such a m

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote: > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. > > Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p > on such a machine. Every time we get to this point in this > (recurring) conversation, I'm compelled to make sure everyone > has

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
> you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p on such a machine. Every time we get to this point in this (recurring) conversation, I'm compelled to make sure everyone has seen the excellent Styx on a Brick paper, describing work to export

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 02:16:00PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > it's an opinion that 8 bits don't have mmus? > that's taking relativism to a whole new level. > your original message didn't contain anything approaching useful content

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jul 17 13:35:18 EDT 2012, kh...@intma.in wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:53:05PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. > > > > - erik > > > > Thanks for letting him know, erik. Please also explain his other > hardware opinions, I think he's

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
You do on the wireless motes, because you have several networks and a file system. There isn't a "user mode" of course, but there are applications. ours was a noise monitoring system to some international noise-monitoring standard. On 17 July 2012 18:33, Paul Lalonde wrote: > A small driver libr

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
it's an Atmel AVR. we did z[acl] for the ATmega128 in the Berkeley mote, which is an 8-bit AVR, and I wrote a little 16/32 bit kernel for it. On 17 July 2012 17:51, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > It's an 8-bit, what are you going to put on it,

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:53:05PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. > > - erik > Thanks for letting him know, erik. Please also explain his other hardware opinions, I think he's looking for a keyboard

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Paul Lalonde
More to the point, you don't want any OS on an 8 bit machine. A small driver library, maybe. But really, 8 bit machines today are just for fun little micro-control projects and you really don't want an OS in the way. The first thing I did to make an arduino useful was reclaim the timer thread tha

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> Actually I've toyed with the idea of a "Plan 9 from 8-bit space". It > would be a fun challenge, I think, and I'd be interested to find > exactly what compromises would be needed. It may even be less of a > challenge than writing drivers for the crap peripherals ARM SOCs always > seem to be burde

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:49:20 -0400 Wes Kussmaul wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 08:44 +, opryy...@gmail.com wrote: > > Another neat comparison of 44 tiny devices: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4035896/a320_downloads/SBC_comparison44.pdf > > No mention of the $16 Teensy? http://www.pjrc.com/ I

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-16 Thread Jack Norton
I'd like to share with everyone that I've just purchased one of these: https://www.olimex.com/dev/imx233-olinuxino-micro.html I liked how they have all their schematics and layouts are on github and that the freescale chip would be a bit friendlier than something from nvidia or broadcom (not to

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-16 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 08:44 +, opryy...@gmail.com wrote: > Another neat comparison of 44 tiny devices: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4035896/a320_downloads/SBC_comparison44.pdf No mention of the $16 Teensy? http://www.pjrc.com/ ...or the Arduino?

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-16 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 08:44:52AM +, opryy...@gmail.com wrote: > Another neat comparison of 44 tiny devices: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4035896/a320_downloads/SBC_comparison44.pdf I think this one looks very good too in terms of price/features, advised by some colleagues: http://www.fanlesstec

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-16 Thread Oleksandr Iakovliev
Hi, I am waiting for my RaspPi to start some cracking, but meanwhile you can have a look at http://kernelnomicon.org/ which is illustrating the progress for RPi to boot FreeBSD. It provides useful bunch of info about booting process that RPi uses - can be a very good starting point. On 2012-07-16

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-16 Thread opryymak
Another neat comparison of 44 tiny devices: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4035896/a320_downloads/SBC_comparison44.pdf I wonder which one will run Plan9 without much of a hassle. Have to wait somebody to crack RaspberryPi. On Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:20:35 UTC+1, (unknown) wrote: > http://raymii.org/cm

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-18 Thread Nicolas Bercher
Le 17/06/2012 19:20, arn...@skeeve.com a écrit : http://raymii.org/cms/p_Small_Linux_PCs_overview Arnold Thank you a lot. There are some nice devices I've never heard about before, including the Cubox. Nicolas

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-18 Thread pmarin
> do you mind quoting it here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&feature=youtu.be&t=49m45s

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-18 Thread Yaroslav
do you mind quoting it here? 2012/6/17 Nick LaForge : > I'm still a little hesitant > about Nvidia, but to avoid further damaging relations with processor > designers I'll defer to Torvalds' statement on the matter from > Thursday in Finland.

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-17 Thread hiro
http://h1ro.dyndns.org/IMG_20120403_003343.jpg

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-17 Thread hiro
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 09:00:00PM +0200, hiro wrote: >> I have a tegra 2 and it's completely undocumented and only comes with >> binary display drivers. > > Speaking of tegra, what the hell happened with linux4tegra?  It was > announced, del

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 09:00:00PM +0200, hiro wrote: > I have a tegra 2 and it's completely undocumented and only comes with > binary display drivers. Speaking of tegra, what the hell happened with linux4tegra? It was announced, delayed, released, and then pulled? Is that correct?

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-17 Thread hiro
I have a tegra 2 and it's completely undocumented and only comes with binary display drivers.

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-17 Thread Nick LaForge
huh. I guess there was a recent machine with sata and GbE and a decent cpu/ram (tegra 2/1GB). $200. I'm still a little hesitant about Nvidia, but to avoid further damaging relations with processor designers I'll defer to Torvalds' statement on the matter from Thursday in Finland. -Nick Sent fr

[9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-06-17 Thread arnold
http://raymii.org/cms/p_Small_Linux_PCs_overview Arnold