Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-18 Thread Charles Forsyth
http://planb.lsub.org/ls/octopus.html is a user interface that includes graphics, exploits name space representations, and doesn't just mimic the xerox desktop.

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-18 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:35:12 EDT erik quanstrom > wrote: > > > You should explore /sys on Linux. They've embraced namespaces in a > major way. > > > > what am i missing. linux' /sys is just a synthetic filesystem. where > do you > > see thi

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:35:12 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > > You should explore /sys on Linux. They've embraced namespaces in a major > > way. > > what am i missing. linux' /sys is just a synthetic filesystem. where do you > see this exploring the idea of namespace? Oops. s/namespace/syntheti

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> You should explore /sys on Linux. They've embraced namespaces in a major way. > what am i missing. linux' /sys is just a synthetic filesystem. where do you see this exploring the idea of namespace? - erik

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
did you notice the discussion was from this century? surprising! On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:28 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > yeah, like mount... its files all the way down :) > > linux is like windows... everything is a HANDL^Wfiledescriptor > > -- > cinap

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Oct 17, 2012, at 6:48 AM, dexen deVries wrote: > a technical and organizational problem: back then Linux' /dev consisted of > special files held on drive, its MAJOR/MINOR schema* getting dangerously > cramped. > > those days Linux' /dev is usually mounted at boot and maintained by kernel, >

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread cinap_lenrek
yeah, like mount... its files all the way down :) linux is like windows... everything is a HANDL^Wfiledescriptor -- cinap

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread tlaronde
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:40:45AM -0700, ron minnich wrote: > get to the part about why it's so great that pipe is a system call, > not a device. > > This is the sort of back-and-forth that reminds me why I can't quite > give up on plan 9 ... > > http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/everything_is_file

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread cinap_lenrek
whats the issue? plan9 has a syscall to create anonymous pipes: #define PIPE21 -- cinap

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread dexen deVries
On Wednesday 17 of October 2012 06:40:45 ron minnich wrote: > get to the part about why it's so great that pipe is a system call, > not a device. > > This is the sort of back-and-forth that reminds me why I can't quite > give up on plan 9 ... > > http://yarchive.net/comp/linux/everything_is_file.

Re: [9fans] I found this discussion pretty funny

2012-10-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> "Yes, some old-timers could argue that original UNIX didn't have sockets, > and that the BSD interface is ugly and an abomination and that it _should_ > have been a namespace thing, but that argument falls flat on its face when > you realize that the "pipe()" system call _was_ in original UNIX, a