Some potential enterprise users might also get interested in running
many Plan 9 instances on Microsoft Virtual Server platform after
seeing it run on Virtual PC (Due to its light weight Plan 9 may be a
good choice for some virtual hosting services).
might makes right ?
To whom it may concern: had the right patches for Plan 9 to work on Virtual
PC been incorporated and a new ISO released half the complaints from
Windows users who want to give Plan 9 a try would disappear. Some potential
enterprise users might also get interested in running many Plan 9 instances
My Plan 9 training is temporarily suspended while I learn to use QEMU.
That's funny because I suspended my Slackware training to learn to use Plan
9.
Now I might suspend my QEMU training to try out some other virtualizers.
Also, I got a FreeDOS image to use for my QEMU training, so I may wander o
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:29 AM, wrote:
> Yeah, don't let my message from earlier scare you off... I was just
> cranky at the prospect of a long day of classes ;) The point of a
> mailing list isn't to see how few messages we can get in a month,
> although of course it's not a blog either.
Tha
>> I've been posting too much for this kind of list. Sorry.
>
> Not at all. As long as the questions are genuine and
> you're learning from it, your questions are welcome
> as far as I'm concerned. The real flamage comes when
> a) someone tries to "teach their grandmother to suck
> eggs" or b) a
> I've been posting too much for this kind of list. Sorry.
Not at all. As long as the questions are genuine and
you're learning from it, your questions are welcome
as far as I'm concerned. The real flamage comes when
a) someone tries to "teach their grandmother to suck
eggs" or b) a person seems
> i'm speculating on the design of the auth system. i wasn't
> there so i could be wrong. but in order to have a terminal
> that many people could log into would require either
> (a) killing off the original factotum on logout and changing
> eve back to bootes or something. and beware the 1001 p
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman
> wrote:
>
>> I don't who and why one referred you to try 9vx
>>
>
> Maybe because it's faster, and easy to install. It only took a few minutes
> to download it, unpack it, and start using it. It's an easy way to get
> acquainted with the Pl
Greetings!
I think, posting is quite ok! I'm in the same position, having set up
Plan 9 on a spare machine and seeing different hurdles to overcome,
that seem to be trivial for those who have mastered them, but for a
novice in Plan 9 (although I have a long background in the computing
industry ...
I've been posting too much for this kind of list. Sorry.
> You could have easily looked at something like /rc/bin/sig or whatever to
> figure out the same stuff, but I guess it continues to be easier to post on
> 9fans than to think.
give the guy a break. he seems to have made a lot of progress and its only
natural
to be confused by things that would
> I tried webfs and got an error message, so I ran webcookies, and then I was
> able to run webfs without an error message. Then I was able to run abaco.
> Now I need to learn how to use it. I thought maybe I could just type in a
> URL and 2-click "Get," but nothing happened.
>
You execute "New",
>
> - and how to change to a different user without rebooting.
there are two answers to this question, depending on if you
have a cpu server or a terminal
* terminal. don't do that. the plan 9 model is that you really
own the hardware and the terminal is not intended to be
multi-user. so you d
> I tried webfs and got an error message, so I ran webcookies, and then I was
> able to run webfs without an error message. Then I was able to run abaco.
> Now I need to learn how to use it. I thought maybe I could just type in a
> URL and 2-click "Get," but nothing happened.
i can verify that tha
I tried webfs and got an error message, so I ran webcookies, and then I was
able to run webfs without an error message. Then I was able to run abaco.
Now I need to learn how to use it. I thought maybe I could just type in a
URL and 2-click "Get," but nothing happened.
I'll need to learn how to acc
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> I don't who and why one referred you to try 9vx
>
Maybe because it's faster, and easy to install. It only took a few minutes
to download it, unpack it, and start using it. It's an easy way to get
acquainted with the Plan 9 environment,
>> term% abaco
>> abaco: can't initialize webfs: '/mnt/web/ctl' does not exist
>
touch $home/lib/webcookies
and add "webfs" in your profile ($home/lib/profile) before plumber and rio
--
Federico G. Benavento
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> fgb's a person, not a thing you install.
>
fgb is also the name of the directory containing his system, which is what I
meant. I see now that what I installed was actually fgb/contrib.
$home/lib/profile is run on login; you can stick arbitrary commands in
there. note rio's -i option. take a look at glenda's lib/profile and
bin/rc/riostart for examples.
running "c:" has a good chance of finding and mounting a FAT
partition; see dossrv(4). note that c: and dosmnt, like many other
Now I have a list of commands to type every time I boot. I need to learn how
to run them automatically.
> ... the manpage
> for juke, ...
>
Juke is really old and kind of painful to use. Easier to just use
mp3dec on the command line, but if you must use juke I have some
scripts in my contrib (/n/sources/contrib/john/) that will make juke
easier to deal with.
> Here's what happened when I install
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Jim Habegger wrote:
> I'm also planning to look into Inferno and the /9/grid.
>
> Now, in Plan 9/QEMU/Ubuntu, I need to learn how to access my shared fat
> partition, and how to copy and paste between the QEMU window and my other
> Ubuntu windows.
>
- and how to
I'm also planning to look into Inferno and the /9/grid.
Now, in Plan 9/QEMU/Ubuntu, I need to learn how to access my shared fat
partition, and how to copy and paste between the QEMU window and my other
Ubuntu windows.
I've done as much as I can and want to do from the documentation for now.
Now I'm working on some of the responses to my posts here.
Pietro, I did
9fs sources
>
and installed fgb. I'm planning to look at that troff tutorial, the manpage
for juke, and the files in /sys/doc.
Here's what happened
On 04/19/2009 09:09 PM, Jim Habegger wrote:
> Eric and Anthony, thank you.
>
> I'm stepping through the Plan 9 documentation at
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html. As you
> noticed, Anthony, I missed a step in adding a new user:
>
> con -l /srv/fscons
>
>
> Tha
Thanks again to everyone for all the help!
I did this (thanks Andrey):
ndb/cs
> ip/ipconfig
> ndb/dns -r
>
Then I took a look at /net/ipselftab and /net/iproute.
Then I pinged the gateway (thanks André) and got a response!
Then I did (thanks Federico)
hget http://google.com
>
and got some hi
The special case is here that he runs qemu. And the good news is: In
qemu you are always in the same simulated network by default. Which is:
your IP: 10.0.2.15
gateway: 10.0.2.2
dns: 10.0.2.3
hardcode these and you should be fine. (if you want to connect to the
qemu machine: fiddle around wi
afaik, I can't ping from qemu, so try hget http://google.com or something
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Jim Habegger wrote:
> I'm working through the Plan 9 documentation at
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html.
>
> I'm running Plan 9 in QEMU in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex
cat /net/ipselftab and /net/iproute to see what address is assigned by
ipconfig. also, start ndb/cs.
the order is sometimes important, so i always do:
ndb/cs
ip/ipconfig
ndb/dns -r # see man page for that argument
cheers!
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Jim Habegger wrote:
> I'm working thro
I'm working through the Plan 9 documentation at
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html.
I'm running Plan 9 in QEMU in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex.
qemu plan9jim.img -k en-us -no-reboot
>
I have to wait a few seconds before responding to each prompt, to avoid
having it freeze and
Eric and Anthony, thank you.
I'm stepping through the Plan 9 documentation at
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html. As you
noticed, Anthony, I missed a step in adding a new user:
con -l /srv/fscons
>
That didn't work in 9vx either, I imagine for the reasons you explaine
Jim Habegger wrote:
// Adding a new user:
that's not a 9vx issue; either you're misreading the documentation or
it's incorrectly written (i'm not sure which bit you're reading for
that). those commands are intended to be given to the file server,
fossil, after connecting to the console posted in
> john, eric, and yy, thanks!
>
> 9vx isn't working out very well for me so far. I'm trying to practice
> everything in the documentation on the Plan 9 site, then I'll work on the
> ideas that have been posted for me here. I was going to practice first in
> 9vx, because it's easier to switch back
john, eric, and yy, thanks!
9vx isn't working out very well for me so far. I'm trying to practice
everything in the documentation on the Plan 9 site, then I'll work on the
ideas that have been posted for me here. I was going to practice first in
9vx, because it's easier to switch back and forth be
2009/4/19 Jim Habegger :
> ... I did learn that I have to press buttons 1 and 3 together, instead of
> shift-3, to simulate button 2.
IMO, this is a bug. The Shift+Button3 = Button2 behaviour is
documented in the man page. I sent a (one-line) patch to Russ, but it
looks like it hasn't been applied
> When I installed Plan 9, it took more than an hour to format 2GB.
the plan 9 ide driver will use pio unless you tell it to do otherwise.
i'm not sure if this applies to qemu, but assuming your emulated drive
is sdC0, you can turn on dma with
echo dma on > /dev/sdC0/ctl
- erik
>
> *Challenge 4*: Display size
>
> My Ubuntu display is 1024x768. The default size of the Plan 9 display is
> much smaller, so it wasn't using all the available space on the Ubuntu
> display.
>
> Winning response: I re-installed Plan 9, changing the dimensions at the
> prompt. I haven't learne
I haven't responded yet to all the info and ideas in my earlier thread,
because I've been trying to get Plan 9 working in QEMU.
First, I tried using 9vx. I found these instructions at
http://swtch.com/9vx/ :
9vx-0.12.tar.bz2 is a binary distribution
> containing a minimal plan 9 tree and binaries
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