Re: [9fans] custom-built plan9 iso?

2010-05-15 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Iruata Souza wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Corey wrote: >> On Saturday 15 May 2010 2:57:12 Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: >>> As far as I am concerned: >>> http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/263 >>> >>> an

Re: [9fans] custom-built plan9 iso?

2010-05-15 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Corey wrote: > On Saturday 15 May 2010 2:57:12 Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: >> As far as I am concerned: >> http://9fans.net/archive/2008/05/263 >> >> and here's maht's blog entry about it: >> http://maht0x0r.blogspot.com/2007/11/roll-your-own-plan9-iso.html >> > > Exce

Re: [9fans] ntp

2010-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM, wrote: > Hello, > > I want to let a freshly installed Plan 9 box use NTP but can't get it > to work. > > I used the explanation under "SETTING UP CORRECT TIMEZONE" from > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/ but > noticed some things: >

Re: [9fans] Binary File split

2010-05-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM, gas wrote: > Isn't the sensible solution to add a "-b bytes" option to split? > split -b Considered Harmful.

Re: [9fans] 9vx and ubuntu 10.04LTS

2010-05-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >>can you run the current 9vx in 9.04? > > yes > > this version madness confuses me. i could not get it to run on 9.10. 9.04 was fine.

Re: [9fans] 9vx and ubuntu 10.04LTS

2010-05-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > % ldd 9vx.Linux # old >        ... > % ldd 9vx       # new > > note that `old' is run on an existing 9.04 (2.6.28-18-generic), which works, > and `new' is the 10.04 (2.6.32-21-generic), which doesn't. > can you run the current 9vx in 9.04?

Re: [9fans] 9vx and ubuntu 10.04LTS

2010-05-01 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > having upgraded a machine to ubunut 10.04LTS yesterday, > 9vx now crashes with a segmentation violation shortly after > saying it is starting /bin/rc. has anyone else a similar > problem on that or another linux system? 9vx itself was unchan

Re: [9fans] Intel 82567LM Ethernet

2010-04-24 Thread Iruata Souza
re and returned to me > the "boot from:" prompt. > > > ak i have a new pxe boot sector, mail me offlist if you want it. > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Iruata Souza wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Akshat Kumar >> wrote: >>> Is

Re: [9fans] Intel 82567LM Ethernet

2010-04-24 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > Is there any work going on to drive > the Intel 82567LM ethernet cards > from Plan 9? > > I was trying to PXE boot my Thinkpad > X200s laptop, when Plan 9 aborted, > as there are no drivers for this card, so > it couldn't pull the kernel, post

Re: [9fans] Mars Needs Women (was Re: TeX: hurrah!)

2010-04-17 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Corey wrote: > On Friday 16 April 2010 21:29:44 lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: >> > Messy, with high levels of noise-to-signal - certainly... but absolutely, >> > astoundingly productive and in constant motion. >> >> In my opinion, most of the output from the Posix de

Re: [9fans] /sys/lib/newuser patch

2010-04-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:04 PM, EBo wrote: > >> newuser assumes that your home directory exists, and on a >> normal plan 9 install, it's likely not possible to create anything >> in /usr without doing it on the fs console. > > Maybe I am missing something here, but this is not a normal plan9 inst

Re: [9fans] bootiso.s fixed

2010-04-07 Thread Iruata Souza
i guess this email was for me. ;] On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:52 PM, wrote: > found it! > > the problem was the LBPB() to load byte 0 from the pvd for comparsion. > i loaded it into rBX instead of rBL.  found this out after dumping the > buffer and noticed that the contents where the same on t23 an

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Corey wrote: > Is it that the core Plan 9 design concepts[1] are in fact inappropriate or > uninteresting for anything beyond that which Plan 9 currently provides? > [1] /sys/doc

Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)

2010-03-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Corey wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 17:24:08 erik quanstrom wrote: >> > In any given social environment, communicating dissatisfaction of >> > the status quo is often the logical first step towards choices (a) >> > and/or (b) - due to the fact that going off on

Re: [9fans] Man pages for add-ons

2010-03-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On 29 Mar 2010, at 00:28, hiro wrote: >> >> Following your logic we must be one of the luckiest mailing list around > > I was speaking of lunix & co, on the basis that given enough additional apps > & things the same problems will arise

Re: [9fans] ports duplication

2010-03-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:26 AM, wrote: >> As for the smaller things, I would prefer to see ten different bits of >> code that achieve the same end vs. just one. Diversity is good, and a >> broader selection of code gives a bigger field to mine for ideas and >> concepts. > > I really don't think t

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

2010-03-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, wrote: >> We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in / >> contrib on sources. Neither is a perfect solution, but I don't think >> the problem here would be addressed by the Labs providing some new >> resource. Between the above and the wiki, the

Re: [9fans] How to mount a P9 partition?

2010-02-19 Thread Iruata Souza
fossil/fossil -f /dev/sdD0/fossil -c 'srv fossil' this should post /srv/fossil as you want. then you can proceed to mounting as you did with the cd. On 2/19/10, Jonas Amoson wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to access files that I have on a harddrive > on which the Plan 9 installation refuses to b

Re: [9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:34 AM, erik quanstrom > wrote: >> >> > I did look around and the only possible problems I could find were >> > that maybe since I don't have Windows it was trying to look for the >> > FAT file (I'm strictly an on

Re: [9fans] New User with Problems

2010-02-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Steve wrote: > I've been scouring the Interwebs and haven't been able to find much of > a solution. > > Yesterday I decided to give P9 a try and burned the ISO file available > on Plan 9's installation page here: > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/download/inde

Re: [9fans] problem with pull

2010-02-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > Also, could you tell me what those errors are about and what the > /n/boot directory is good for? > /n/boot seems to be the mount of #s/boot, the root file server srv file.

Re: [9fans] parallels

2010-01-08 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, wrote: > I don't have enough experience with VirtualBox to make a sensible > comparison. > > The thing that none of the VM monitors seem to offer (though I'd love > to be proven wrong) is debugging tools for the guest operating > systems.  This is odd, as it was on

Re: [9fans] Announcing: rootless post kernel load startup

2010-01-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, mycroftiv 9gridchan wrote: > More recent work - available on sources in > contrib/mycroftiv/rootlessboot as both patches and a compiled ready to > use kernel and optional rootfs.tgz additional tools to be placed in > 9fat partition. > > "Rootless" bootup is a rewrit

[9fans] auth_getkey(2) and factotum path

2009-12-09 Thread Iruata Souza
hello, i am playing with a kernel configuration where i have factotum in /$cputype/bin/auth/factotum instead of /boot. today this is not possible because auth_getkey(2) requires /boot/factotum or /factotum to be present. would it be a problem if auth_getkey tried the usual place too? iru

Re: [9fans] usb disks in plan9

2009-11-23 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >> Usb disks don't know how to handle partitions. >> You have to use partfs IIRC or some other tool to >> partition it. > > Hmm..  Here is what I would like to do.  I would like to put > a FAT32 and a fossil (or kfs) filesystem on a usb flash dri

Re: [9fans] MIPS LSB compiler

2009-11-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >>   * A ducktyping of sorts with interfaces and such. On the surface >> it just saves >>     you a bunch of "extends XXX", but it actually seems to bridge >> the gap between >>     dynamically typed world and a statically typed one to an extent

[9fans] kernel compiling with -R

2009-11-04 Thread Iruata Souza
hello, is there any reason why the kernel is not linked with its text segment rounded? iru

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> i was told dtrace was non-intrusive at the time, but w2 would show the >> command history from w1. > > More likely this is ksh sharing a history file. > > at the time i couldn't reproduce it with other shells. anyway, iirc, no such side-e

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

2009-11-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:58:10AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: >> On Sun Nov  1 11:55:47 EST 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Also, D is not compiled in kernel. The dtrace utility compiles the D >> > script, and the script goes t

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Lorenzo Bolla wrote: > To capitalize the first letter of each line wouldn't this be enough? > s/^./\u&/ > > L. % echo rwrong | sed 's/^./\u&/' urwrong

Re: [9fans] sed question (OT)

2009-10-29 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> To capitalize the first letter of each line wouldn't this be enough? >> >> s/^./\u&/ > > ; echo abc def | sed 's/^.\u&/' > sed: s command garbled: s/^.\u&/ > i guess you missed the second slash

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Steve Simon wrote: >> I thought it was just wonderful, and noticed similar reactions from >> everyone else. It was a very fine meeting. > > Makes me even more sick I was unable to come. > > could somone post a quick summary of the plan9 extra-cirricular > activitie

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-24 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, roger peppe wrote: > 2009/10/23 W B Hacker : >> We can't 'ave two 9'ers actually *agree* on sumat! > > i found it interesting that face to face there seemed to > be much more agreement than disagreement. > very constructive. > i second that. we could even write cod

Re: [9fans] 9P in lua

2009-10-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > There is a LUA for P9 > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/iru/lua-5.1-plan9.tgz > > But ... 9P on LUA maybe iRu knows ? > i don't. not yet. > 2009/10/13 Roman Shaposhnik : >> Guys, >> >> has anybody seen 9P implemented in Lu

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
i second that. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > Should have come up with that before people booked travel.  Thursday night > at a pub perhaps? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 6, 2009, at 2:50 PM, ron minnich wrote: > >> I'd like to have a hack session the wed. morn

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> >> if anyone want to rent a car, let me know so maybe a few people can >> share the expenses. > > i should have mentioned that driving is generally very easy > as long as you can use the carpool lane.  (but then again, i didn't > mind drivi

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Oct  5 17:35:11 EDT 2009, m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: >> Hi, >> >> For those of us traveling to IWP9, what are recommended ways to get >> from Atlanta to Athens? We were likely going to Atlanta by train... >> >> Thanks, >> -- vs > > i've u

Re: [9fans] 9vx as a perfect proto environment

2009-09-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> It's fast. But the big beauty of it for me is that in vx32/src/9vx/a >> is pretty much a plan 9 kernel in plan 9 C vernacular. I just spent an >> easy short time prototyping some new stuff that I can now drop into a >> real plan 9 kernel for Blue

Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon

2009-09-24 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Patrick Kelly wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:55 PM, David Arnold wrote: >> >> On 22/09/2009, at 4:47 PM, Jack Norton wrote: >> >>> In the end I don't care what the linux devs do, but they need to come up >>> with a game plan and either fork (server, deskt

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:31:28 PDT David Leimbach  wrote: >> >> Having wrestled with this stuff a little bit, and written "something".  I >> can immediately see how one can get away from needing to "select" in code so >> much, and fire off blocks

Re: [9fans] nice quote

2009-09-09 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > anyone written any software recently? writing a new boot(8) that uses rc(1) to drive the boot process. iru

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:53 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> maybe the bootstrap can be done with linuxemu. > > wouldn't that just give you yet another linux elf binary? > you are right. it must know how to compile correct a.out(6). iru

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

2009-09-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnums wrote: >> Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I >> haven't looked at the SBCL backend in quite sometime, but, assuming it's not >> terribly insane, that would be a

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-04 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > There's been a *lot* of speculation on this thread and very little fact. > (...) > Trust me, I've seen how it is generated. > so we should trust you and not the facts? is that what you are saying? because i haven't seen any 'factual' code y

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

2009-09-03 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, erik quanstrom > wrote: >> >> > > > Apple's using it all over the place in Snow Leopard, in all their >> > > > native >> > > > apps to write cleaner, less manual-lock code.  At least, that's the >> > > > c

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

2009-09-02 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Eris Discordia wrote: > Although, you may be better off reading SICP "as intended," and use MIT > Scheme on either Windows or a *NIX. The book (and the freaking language) is > already hard/unusual enough for one to not want to get confused by > implementation quirks.

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Iruata Souza wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, matt wrote: >> erik quanstrom wrote: >> >>> i love it.  we have complaining that fat doesn't do more >>> than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liabilit

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, matt wrote: > erik quanstrom wrote: > >> i love it.  we have complaining that fat doesn't do more >> than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liability for >> doing more than 8.3 within 24 hrs. >> > > thanks but I'm not trolling, not complaining > >> just to be c

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Uriel wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:23 AM, ron minnich wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Federico G. >> Benavento wrote: >> >>> I could achieve the same as I did by doing "copy 9load E:" on windows >>> with this new approach, but I'd need to boot some

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > 9fat is also a pain in that the 9load file must be created with, > and retain its append only file, which has a special meaning to 9fat > telling it to create the file in sequential blocks. > > This could (and has) caused problems if you access

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> 9null (the project we're talking about) doesn't require any of it, but >> allows it. you can have a fat partition with plan9.ini and, say, 9pcf. >> but it can't reside at the very beginning of the disk. in fact, you >> should be able to have

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:38 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > It has not been a problem for anyone I know. It might not be perfect >> > or beautiful, but I have yet to hear any suggestion for a replacement >> > that has all the advantages of 9fat (simple, reliable, easily >> > accessible from other s

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Do we stick with that file format forever? is it perfect and never to >> be changed? > > would it be fair to ask a the same question from a little > different perspective? > > could someone explain what the disadvantages and problems > with

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >> for the ones interested, the code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9null. >> i'm writing a README explaining how to compile and install. > > Are there plans for this to get folded into the mainline? > I wrote it with the hope of getting it into t

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Uriel wrote: > Can it load and parse plan9.ini? > > uriel > it can. can you? iru

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-27 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Uriel wrote: > Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel > already worked just fine with what russ did years ago. > > uriel > i heard that from you already. i just don't know why haven't you done it yet. for the ones interested, the code i

Re: [9fans] dump9660?

2009-08-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: > Hi, > > Do any of you still use dump9660? Any recent experiences or stuff I > should watch out for using it? > mk9660(8) is the main user, but i don't think she reads the list. iru

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Noah Evans wrote: > Try it. try updating your system.

Re: [9fans] manpages broken/outdated

2009-08-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Noah Evans wrote: > man 4 disk # disk(4) > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valek wrote: >> I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage >> is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesystem >> corruption for sure. Most oth

Re: [9fans] Acme Configuration

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Noah Evans wrote: > you mean outside of the dump when acme is dies for reasons other than > being killed/exited? > > with win state, how are you going to handle the state of the shell? I > can see why they're dynamic, it could be potentially misleading to see > a cha

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:29:25 -0300 > Iruata Souza wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:33:18 +0100 >> > "Steve Simon" wrot

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-07 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:33:18 +0100 > "Steve Simon" wrote: > >> I cannot imageine the senario where random people will have access >> to the cpu/auth/file server's consoles. It just doesn't happen >> if you are serious about security. >> >

Re: [9fans] 9p question

2009-07-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: >> How come you can't TWalk along an open Fid? > > In the original 9P protocol, that didn't make sense, > because walk always updated the fid it was starting from. > If you open a fid and t

Re: [9fans] plan9port behind corporate firewall with no DNS or port access

2009-07-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Salman Aljammaz wrote: > Uriel wrote: >> If your work firewall proxies port 80, then things get trickier, you >> could mount sources on the home inferno instance, and then export it >> using mjl's httpd as a read-only http 'tree'. > > assuming you've got openssh, on

Re: [9fans] Question about Plan9 project

2009-07-20 Thread Iruata Souza
it is so difficult to 'fork' the project that it took me less than 10 minutes to turn the kernel sources into a hg repository. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Uriel wrote: > >> Plan 9 is *not* an open source project, it can hardly be called a

Re: [9fans] off-topic: "small is beautiful" article

2009-06-25 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John Floren wrote: > TinyScheme has been in contrib for a long time, but I don't know its > limitations or how it would stack up against 'ChibiScheme' > > John Alex (the article's author) mentions it at http://groups.google.com/group/plan9-gsoc/browse_thread/thread

Re: [9fans] Security, take 2.

2009-04-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > Given the feedback from the list, I've come up with two alternatives. > (Well, one of them was actually Mechiel's brainchild). > > Idea #1 (From Mechiel) > Instead of doing typed allocations, give every user an allocation > pool, from which

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > wouldn't it just be easier to use 32-bit compatability mode > (http://www.mips.com/products/processors/architectures/mips64/) > for bootstrapping using vc? that's how i started playing. iru

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-19 Thread Iruata Souza
tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port. the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sora

Re: [9fans] Web interface to '/n/sources/contrib' gone??

2009-02-10 Thread Iruata Souza
i may be wrong here but http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 may be suggesting why these problems are occuring. if i'm correct, i feel compeled to say: what's the problem with using old threads that discuss the same issue? iru

Re: [9fans] sed crash

2009-02-05 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: > On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:58 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > >> also, can you please remove debugging output from 9fans? > > What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my emails? > PGP for Mac Mail hides everything. > > may

Re: [9fans] Sources Gone?

2009-01-28 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Uriel wrote: > Mercurial and git solve all replica problems, and some more. > > They are infinitely faster, more reliable, and more useful. And in > some ways they are even conceptually simpler (I never quite understood > some of the most subtle points of replica,

Re: [9fans] plan9port openbsd 4.4

2009-01-26 Thread Iruata Souza
can't remember on 4.4, but 4.3 did run acme fine. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > The plan9port code depends on the operating system's pthreads > being real kernel-level threads, not a fake user-level simulation. > The user-level simulations are not good enough, because > on th

Re: [9fans] plan9port openbsd 4.4

2009-01-25 Thread Iruata Souza
could you send me the core file? are you linking with rthreads? iru On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Fernan Bolando wrote: > Hi all > > I recently installed plan9port on an openbsd pc in order gain access > to acme and other tools. > > rio seems to work fine, but I have been getting a few 9serv

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Iruata Souza
till there, if you want to try something in software take a look at http://bitmux.org/qemu.html. i talked once to ron about porting to the gumstix as a gsoc project i'd be willing to do. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Steve Simon wrote: >> I´m done with some usb stuff I´m doing we at lsub plan

Re: [9fans] 9P in C++

2008-12-15 Thread Iruata Souza
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Rodolfo kix García wrote: > Hi! > > I am working in an c++ application on linux and I would like to use a > filesystem to access to the application data. > > Somebody knows any 9P implementation of 9P in C++? > any issues with using the ones in C? iru

Re: [9fans] Explanation of binding from ftpfs

2008-12-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Brad Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot to mention when I bind /n/ftp I was really binding > /n/ftp/directory to another location. > if I understand it correctly, the reference to the server is still there even if you don't see /n/ftp anymore. iru

Re: [9fans] Explanation of binding from ftpfs

2008-12-06 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Brad Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I use ftpfs to mount a ftp site and then bind /n/ftp to another > location. All appears to work fine in /n/ftp and in the other > location. When I type ns, I can clearly see the pipe bind for ftpfs > mounted to /n/ftp. Whe

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-11-30 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 9fans, > > I'm playing with nearest-neighbor image resampling and wrote two > simple implementations - http://tmp.oitobits.net/iru/nn.c, > http://tmp.oitobits.net/iru/nnmem.c - one using dra

[9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-11-30 Thread Iruata Souza
9fans, I'm playing with nearest-neighbor image resampling and wrote two simple implementations - http://tmp.oitobits.net/iru/nn.c, http://tmp.oitobits.net/iru/nnmem.c - one using draw(2) and the other using memdraw(2). running them on the same image on disk shows that nnmem is way faster: cpu% n

Re: [9fans] Gmail and upas

2008-11-21 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> does humans work well with that software? > > I do, but I doubt I qualify as human--from your point of view. > since the software was written with you in mind, I suppose it fits well, then. iru ps: I love science

Re: [9fans] Gmail and upas

2008-11-21 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FUN FACT: GMail works well with links/elinks. > does humans work well with that software? iru

Re: [9fans] sources web interface has gone screwy

2008-11-21 Thread Iruata Souza
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:40 PM, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/ > > > sed: Can't open s/PATH/\/n\/sources\/contrib/g; s/CONTRIB/is/g; d-rwxrwxr-x > aganti sys 0 May 21 2008 aganti >

Re: [9fans] What about Haskell? [was: How can I use alef?]

2008-11-20 Thread Iruata Souza
in my contrib there is a more up-to-date lua port On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Federico G. Benavento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, it's in nils contrib (noselasd) > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:47 PM, John Barham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I've often though quite a few languages could b

Re: [9fans] What about Haskell? [was: How can I use alef?]

2008-11-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:23 PM, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> >>> Without starting a flame war, I'd like to know if some of you think it >>> could >>> be useful on a Plan 9 grid/environment. >>> >>> > > I've often though quite a few languages could be shrunken down fit with > Plan9's diret

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-15 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, neither you nor anyone else have addressed the question of port > forwarding using an imported /net. I love science. iru

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:17 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not that type of "types." I gave an example (which Charles Forsyth found to >> be a bad one) to set the types of "types" apart. I mean "types" as in named >> pipes ("special" files) versus regular files. In my experience

Re: [9fans] cin is in

2008-09-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CINT has nothing to do with cin. There is a good paper on cin in the > 9th Edition docs. > > It went on to become vice, which has an X interface, or samuel, which > has a sam interface. > > CINT looks pretty sucky. > your ey

Re: [9fans] cin is in

2008-09-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Michaelian Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't know how you get the source but it is a cool program. >> >> It can simulate itself simulating itself simulating another program. >> Lots

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-20 Thread Iruata Souza
On 8/20/08, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ACLs were invented long ago. yes, I like clean and simple solutions too. iru

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-19 Thread Iruata Souza
eris, I agree, thanks. iru

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wrong on so many levels. > > Go read the responses 9people gave the original poster. You'll see why it's > _right_ on so many levels. > >> Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler. > > A UNIX better than UN

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-19 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 7. sed 's/ //g' file > file2 && mv file2 file rest in peace file2. iru

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-23 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:42 AM, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> nice! whats the status of your port? have an SGI indy (IP22) and would >>> like >>> to >>> contribute if i find the time :-) >>> >>> please put it somewhere! >>> >>> >> >> http://iru.oitobits.net/src/9sgi/ >> good to know someon

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-17 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Kernel Panic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Iruata Souza wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Benjamin Huntsman >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Furthermore, does anyone out there run Plan 9 on

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-16 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Benjamin Huntsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Furthermore, does anyone out there run Plan 9 on non-x86 hardware anymore? > only for the fun of it, I'm slowly trying to port it to my SGI O2. iru

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 and multicores/parallelism/concurrency?

2008-07-14 Thread Iruata Souza
On 7/14/08, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM, ssecorp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from wikipedia: > > "Plan 9 from Bell Labs is a distributed operating system, primarily > > used for research." > > > > but it doesnt say anything more about the distributed

Re: [9fans] file heuristics on troff input

2008-07-11 Thread Iruata Souza
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a bit of humor: > >COMPUTER >ME >% cd troff >% file * >advp9prog: directory > yes (old attempt at plan 9 programmer's guide) >algoawk:

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Brian L. Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Me again - Were you successfull in porting 9vx to OpenBSD? >> If you need some testing help, contact me. > > Speaking of that, does anyone have an idea where NetBSD > would fit into that? Of the bunch, that's the one I'

Re: [9fans] 9vx on OpenBSD-4.3

2008-07-10 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Malik Bazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me again - Were you successfull in porting 9vx to OpenBSD? > If you need some testing help, contact me. > http://iru.oitobits.net/src/vx32-0.10-openbsd-compiled.tgz I guess you'll have problems compiling. Let me know if you d

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