Re: [9fans] Ancient History: "Electronic Mail Without Aliases"

2013-02-25 Thread michaelian ennis
Maybe it was unpublished? It isn't listed on Professor Lesk's published works page. http://www.lesk.com/mlesk/pub.html Ian

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread Jeremy Jackins
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Ruslan Khusnullin < ruslan.khusnul...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds weird and tricky but I will definitely take a try, thank you! I > had a Logitech M100 mouse with a scroll wheel supporting "horizontal > scroll" so pushing a wheel this way is not possible. > What abo

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-25 Thread Jeff Sickel
Actually, that printf was for my debugging: diff /sys/src/ape/lib/ap/plan9/_buf.c _buf.c 294a295 > /* 298c299 < errno = EBADF; /* how X tells a client is gone */ --- > errno = EBADF; // how X tells a client > is gone 3

[9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-25 Thread Jeff Sickel
I've been tracking down little errors in the APE select() function that cropped up when trying to use Python's subprocess module. After a few too many hours of investigation, I've come to the conclusion that the code that causes error is intentional code to handle a specific case for X (I'll as

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread yy
On 25 February 2013 20:24, Ruslan Khusnullin wrote: > had a Logitech M100 mouse with a scroll wheel supporting "horizontal > scroll" so pushing a wheel this way is not possible. > What about B2+B1 chord? > It should not be difficult to map the scroll left button to B2. I've done it in p9p's acme

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Raschke
I've been using one of these: Lenovo 3 button scrollpoint USB mouse http://shop.lenovo.com/us/itemdetails/31P7405/460/0E80436C80A748E6AA76791FC42C9CA3 It has been very reliable and comfortable to use. Robby On Feb 25, 2013 7:19 PM, "Ruslan Khusnullin" wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM, A

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and

2013-02-25 Thread Ruslan Khusnullin
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Mark van Atten wrote: > On Monday, February 25, 2013 2:38:40 PM UTC+1, Ruslan Khusnullin wrote: > >> Considering how difficult it is to find a new usb mouse with 3 real buttons > > The HP DY651A is such a mouse and is still available, for example at Amazon. > Is t

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread Ruslan Khusnullin
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Jeremy Jackins wrote: > Off-topic, but.. > > What works well for me (on a 2 button + scroll wheel mouse) is using my > index finger for both buttons 1 and 2. So if I want to chord 1+2 I press 1, > pressing near the rightmost edge of the button, then sort of roll my

Re: [9fans] Virtualbox and real mode

2013-02-25 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
Btw, it also works in VMware. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] Virtualbox and real mode

2013-02-25 Thread Rikard Lang
25 feb 2013 kl. 14:33 skrev James Chapman : > I downgraded to 4.1.24 as 4.2.6 (or possibly some other 4.2.x) didn't work > for me. > > I think the only thing that I had to change was: > > To choose network adapter: Intel PRO/1000 MT Server, it works with > bridged/nat I think. > > James >

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and

2013-02-25 Thread Dustin Fechner
On 02/25/2013 03:50 PM, Mark van Atten wrote: > >>> http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product/sku/2545791 >> >> I bought one of these and after one month of use the buttons began to >> misbehave. But well, I guess one can't expect too much for that price. > > I'm sorry to hear that. Did you find an alte

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread Jeremy Jackins
Off-topic, but.. What works well for me (on a 2 button + scroll wheel mouse) is using my index finger for both buttons 1 and 2. So if I want to chord 1+2 I press 1, pressing near the rightmost edge of the button, then sort of roll my finger to the right a bit which presses down the scroll wheel. I

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and

2013-02-25 Thread Mark van Atten
> > http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product/sku/2545791 > > > > I bought one of these and after one month of use the buttons began to > > misbehave. But well, I guess one can't expect too much for that price. I'm sorry to hear that. Did you find an alternative? I bought my two DY651A's two years

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and

2013-02-25 Thread Mark van Atten
On Monday, February 25, 2013 2:38:40 PM UTC+1, Ruslan Khusnullin wrote: > Considering how difficult it is to find a new usb mouse with 3 real buttons The HP DY651A is such a mouse and is still available, for example at Amazon. Is that an option for you? Mark.

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread Dustin Fechner
On 02/25/2013 03:06 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > I stumbled upon this one a while back. Never used one though. Been > using a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel. Does the job. > http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product/sku/2545791 I bought one of these and after one month of use the buttons began to

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and Plan9port Acme

2013-02-25 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
I stumbled upon this one a while back. Never used one though. Been using a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel. Does the job. http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product/sku/2545791 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Ruslan Khusnullin wrote: > Considering how difficult it is to find a new usb mouse with 3

Re: [9fans] Virtualbox and real mode

2013-02-25 Thread James Chapman
On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Rikard Lang wrote: > 24 feb 2013 kl. 12:48 skrev James Chapman : >> Virtualbox 4.1.24 works well for me. >> > I have Virtualbox 4.2.6 What settings if any did you use for the virtual > machine? I downgraded to 4.1.24 as 4.2.6 (or possibly some other 4.2.x) didn't

Re: [9fans] What's up with $home? And a security question.

2013-02-25 Thread Charles Forsyth
"My other question is: what's the security implications of cpu? You get to do processes on the remote box, but then they also get to have filesystem access on yours. " If you don't entirely trust the cpu server, you *should* export a name space from your terminal, limit the processes on the cpu s

Re: [9fans] curious mtime of cwfs

2013-02-25 Thread arisawa
thanks Anthony, I understand the behavior of fossil. cwfs is out of the rule. I said: standing on general rule of unix and plan9, mtime of directory should be the time that the contents are modified. but this is not true in rigorous speaking. Kenji Arisawa On 2013/02/25, at 19:34, Anthony

Re: [9fans] curious mtime of cwfs

2013-02-25 Thread cinap_lenrek
that means kenfs/cwfs and kfs are doing wstat wrong. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] curious mtime of cwfs

2013-02-25 Thread Anthony Martin
cinap_len...@gmx.de once said: > i'm not sure. if you touch an existing file, then it makes sense > that the files mtime gets updated, not the whole directory. > > wstat() and write() on a file only update the files mtime, not > the parent directory. > > however creating a new file or deleting a f

Re: [9fans] curious mtime of cwfs

2013-02-25 Thread arisawa
the role of directory mtime of plan9 is ambiguous for me. that need not be same as that of unix because plan9 does not have ctime. is there the specification? by the way, directory atime is also difficult to understand. the time is really useful? readdir() returns 0 although cwfs has the value. K

Re: [9fans] Virtualbox and real mode

2013-02-25 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
Virtualbox doesn't care about Plan 9 so why do you care about it? Plan 9 works really well in QEMU or KVM/QEMU. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] What's up with $home? And a security question.

2013-02-25 Thread Bruce Ellis
if you can't trust a cpu server don't use it. applies to carbon based life-forms too. On 25 February 2013 00:29, wrote: > Cinap mostly covered this, but yeah: if you don't trust the > system you're connecting to, cpu isn't really safe[1]. But > then, neither is anything else: even the simplest

Re: [9fans] curious mtime of cwfs

2013-02-25 Thread cinap_lenrek
i'm not sure. if you touch an existing file, then it makes sense that the files mtime gets updated, not the whole directory. wstat() and write() on a file only update the files mtime, not the parent directory. however creating a new file or deleting a file from a directory does change the directo