[9fans] Historical Papers on Unix now online

2010-11-08 Thread Aharon Robbins
A friend sent this to me. Both of these mailing lists are likely to find this of interest. I have a paper copy of the 1978 BSTJ, either the '82 or '83 issues, whichever one was devoted to Unix. :-) Arnold > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:42:14 -0700 (MST) > From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" > To: f...@fslc.

[9fans] VMware resolution > 1024?

2010-11-08 Thread Don Bailey
Am I missing something? VMware used to have better screen resolution than 1024x768x8, didn't it? I'm getting kernel panic when I try and switch to something higher. Suggestions? Thanks, D

Re: [9fans] p9p factotum available for plan 9

2010-11-08 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Nov 3 17:15:36 EDT 2010, quans...@quanstro.net wrote: > contrib/install quanstro/nfactotum > > imap/smtpd passwd and cram and are untested. imap4d with a password (which uses cram) now works. imap4d with a cram challenge does not. > telnet (server) is known broken. i don't think i

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread EBo
``My last company switched to nmake, and they're OUT OF BUISINESS :-) :-) :-)'' That line is tee-shirt worthy. There are places you can get custom t-shirts made for a reasonable fee, so you should be able to have one made ;-)

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > ``My last company switched to nmake, and they're OUT OF BUISINESS :-) :-) > :-)'' That line is tee-shirt worthy.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Ellis
a more than fair justification. brucee On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> but it seemed better just to port mk itself. > > the intention was to support building both inside and outside the Inferno > environment, > and neither sh nor mash were going to be as easy to reprod

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread Charles Forsyth
>the intention was to support building both inside and outside the Inferno >environment, oh. and just like Plan 9 mkfile's and for the same reason, Inferno's mkfiles were essentially concise lists of the names of inputs and the names of outputs, with few instructions, which suited my little bra

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread Charles Forsyth
> but it seemed better just to port mk itself. the intention was to support building both inside and outside the Inferno environment, and neither sh nor mash were going to be as easy to reproduce outside Inferno as simply making mk work (more or less) inside Inferno. that action alone wasn't inte

Re: [9fans] bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32

2010-11-08 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:37 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> hmm. The problem just "went away" before I could see anything with ratrace. > > gotta love a race.  perhaps you should try mk all in a loop until it fails? It refuses to fail now. I think it was something weird between linux and vx32 but

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Ellis
that doesn't describe mash at all. my talk at IWP9 hinted on the functionality. the first advice i was given when i started on inferno was not to port everything in sight - think forward. fixing the awkward and backward syntax and semantics of rc+mk, and the replication, was the intention.. bruce

Re: [9fans] bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32

2010-11-08 Thread erik quanstrom
> hmm. The problem just "went away" before I could see anything with ratrace. gotta love a race. perhaps you should try mk all in a loop until it fails? - erik

Re: [9fans] bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32

2010-11-08 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM, ron minnich wrote: > 8l  -o 8.zerotrunc zerotrunc.8 > mk awk > yacc -o awkgram.c -S -d -v awkgram.y > >  fatal error:cannot open table file awkgram.c, :1 > mk: yacc -o awkgram.c ...  : exit status=rc 26794: yacc 26796: error > mk: for(i in cc ...  : exit status=rc

[9fans] bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32

2010-11-08 Thread ron minnich
I think there are some people using my vx32 repo. Noah evans has pushed changes to make it build on OSX. Yiyus has done a LOT of work on his vx32 repo and I just did a pull from there. It all seems to work but ... building from the latest sysfromiso fails. Here is the error: 8l -o 8.zerotrunc z

Re: [9fans] pcc limitation?

2010-11-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
Anyone considering things like that should also be familiar with the "Styx on a Brick" work, where the Vita Nuova guys stuck a Styx interface on a Lego mindstorm controller brick. The interface layering from the raw serial interface up through something which you wrote times to (and the clickabl

Re: [9fans] pcc limitation?

2010-11-08 Thread erik quanstrom
> Just run Plan 9 on the hardware. Who wanted to create "Plan 9 from 8-bit > space"? Let's do it for AVR. > Then mount LEDs and the like... that's pretty impractical. letting alone the type hell one would have in porting a c compiler, i don't know of any 8 bit parts with an mmu, and the avr is es

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-08 Thread roger peppe
On 5 November 2010 19:06, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > ('&', '&&', '||', if, '|', 'and '`{}') with something general >> > enough to replace mk, you'd be on to something. >> >> i did a mash-inspired version of mk as an inferno shell module once. >> it required no new syntax (although it could be conf

Re: [9fans] pcc limitation?

2010-11-08 Thread Julius Schmidt
Hardware programming is fun. Side effects include nausea and vomiting. you're doing it wrong. :-) - erik Just run Plan 9 on the hardware. Who wanted to create "Plan 9 from 8-bit space"? Let's do it for AVR. Then mount LEDs and the like... aiju