Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p > >> file servers you know of, say on the plan9 wiki, and > >> then email 9fans

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must say that it is highly unlikely that Mozilla will adopt the path > of splitting the "monolithic app into a bunch of fileservers" simply > because that would involve a lot work, and potentially a lot code to > be written from scratch. Well

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread sqweek
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p >> file servers you know of, say on the plan9 wiki, and >> then email 9fans asking them to add any that you have >> missed?

Re: [9fans] yes, comcast really *does* suck

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* LiteStar numnums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, there is a decent amount of noise over switching back to UUCP or > the like to avoid the types of restrictions governments & corporations are > attempting to put on the 'net. Can't wait. :| Actually, I might be one of those making that nois

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Right now, there's an discussion about moving things into their own > processes (eg. one process per tab) @ [EMAIL PROTECTED], > and I just digged out my (old but still unrecognized) point of using > 9P as IPC and splitting off the currently monolithic app into a bunch > of fileservers. maybe r

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 10-Nov-08, at 6:26 AM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Right now, there's an discussion about moving things into their own processes (eg. one process per tab) @ [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I just digged out my (old but still unrecognized) point of using 9P as IPC and splitting off the currently monolithic ap

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p > file servers you know of, say on the plan9 wiki, and > then email 9fans asking them to add any that you have > missed? If I had write access, I'd just did it ;-o Meanwhile I've just added my 9P libs (

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > See that's the problem. I was asking for the arguments that might > help me convince somebody who hasn't ever been exposed > to Plan9/Inferno OSes (and hasn't ever been on this list) to > consider 9P (as a protocol) to be added (as a fronted) to

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
I think ericvh has a P.Enis, I know I do. Actually maybe it was Ennis (that one's at home), but it's funny enough. brucee On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Dan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [...] poor old Mr Peter Eni

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Cross
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] poor old Mr Peter Enis [...] Wow, this is really sad, but I *just* got that. - Dan C.

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
Transitive trust is metastable. "I trust him. Hold on - do I trust who he trusts" etc. brucee On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>also, it assumes that the vm/vs >>>service provider will be able to provide as good or better quality of >>>service as you

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
>>also, it assumes that the vm/vs >>service provider will be able to provide as good or better quality of >>service as you would maintaining your own infrastructure. > > also that they are as sound as a bank and just as unlikely to go bust. > wait a minute ... exactly; that also crossed my mind.

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
Sharp, Noah. Shame you and all the 9fans had to get back to real work. I'm trying to avoid it but I have to face reality (again) one day. I'm actually starting to really appreciate Football (Soccer). Though it seems inevitable if you like bars here. I can't but think of poor old Mr Peter Enis wh

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
cool, i think that was the code they were really looking for. the transcript is funny huh? "yada yada" is transcribed as something very funny, like yattata. was there a video? brucee On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:39 PM, C H Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I did some work on it when in the Infer

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Noah Evans
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack_of_aesthetical_refinement > > Bruce Ellis and Noah Evans, please populate the

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
>I'm not really sure what magic is involved in the DEL interrupt. rio (or ip/telnetd, or ... some other user program).

Re: [9fans] has anyone used xmonad?

2008-11-09 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 9, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eris Discordia wrote: What is X good for except eye candy and graphical web browsers ;-? Masochistic programming and highly-paid tech support teams. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARE

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread C H Forsyth
>I did some work on it when in the Inferno Business Unit, >based on my journalfs. As far as I can tell it doesn't appear in the >Vita distribution. no, i don't think i ever saw it, and at one stage i had a look round the file stores we inherited to see if there were any interesting things that th

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread C H Forsyth
>also, it assumes that the vm/vs >service provider will be able to provide as good or better quality of >service as you would maintaining your own infrastructure. also that they are as sound as a bank and just as unlikely to go bust. wait a minute ...

Re: [9fans] has anyone used xmonad?

2008-11-09 Thread Eris Discordia
Not very relevant but anyway: there are also Ion/Ion2 and pwm in the category of completely keyboard-controllable tiling window managers, if you are interested. Ion/Ion2 is Lua scriptable. Xmonad is rather young and the screenshots seemed to me to mimic Ion/Ion2 which in turn is based on pwm--b

Re: [9fans] has anyone used xmonad?

2008-11-09 Thread Matt Moore
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:58 PM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:43 AM, andrey mirtchovski > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i stumbled upon this the other day. xmonad is a tiling window manager >> written in haskell that looks similar to acme, although it can be >> compl

Re: [9fans] has anyone used xmonad?

2008-11-09 Thread sqweek
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:43 AM, andrey mirtchovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i stumbled upon this the other day. xmonad is a tiling window manager > written in haskell that looks similar to acme, although it can be > completely keyboard-driven. if anyone has used it please comment on > it. Pe

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-09 Thread sqweek
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only question is -- where such a note > is supposed to be sent to? > > Can someone, please, educate me on the moral equivalent of process > groups, sessions and their relationships with #c/cons ? Maybe you worke

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
Go and see a doctor then. What a silly guy, huh Noah? Perhaps he doesn't know what "perhaps" means. He certainly doesn't know jack about computer science. Dr Bruce Ellis Department of Conceptual Integrity University of Thessaly On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-09 Thread Eris Discordia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack_of_aesthetical_refinement Bruce Ellis and Noah Evans, please populate the above stub. By the way, Bruce Ellis, do never ever recommend medication to anyone _even in jest_ without providing a visible discla

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Bruce Ellis
That's actually not too hard (data retention and confidentiality policies). I did some work on it when in the Inferno Business Unit, based on my journalfs. As far as I can tell it doesn't appear in the Vita distribution. Maybe it was lost. The design satified bank regulations. When I left the Uni

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Steve Simon
How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p file servers you know of, say on the plan9 wiki, and then email 9fans asking them to add any that you have missed? I can see how such a thing might be a useful resource to people on the list as well as a promotional tool. It could also (perhaps)