Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory)
Hello Pascal, Please see inline. Best Regards, Guangpeng > -Original Message- > From: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 2:18 PM > To: Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory) > > Cc: Michael Richardson ; 6lo <6lo@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for W

[6lo] 答复: Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread longrong
Hi, Michael, As matter of fact, we are dealing with this problem right now, the smart data center transformation cost a lot of money and additional power consumptions because of those additional sensors. So, yes, we are looking for such technologies that can reduce power consumption

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Michael Richardson
"Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory)" wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. Please see below: >> If I insert a new device in the tree, then all of the tree below that >> device has to renumber. > Technically saying, it may exist but it seems weird to insert a new

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Michael Richardson
"Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory)" wrote: >> -Original Message- From: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 >> 2:18 PM To: Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory) >> Cc: Michael Richardson >> ; 6lo <6lo@ietf.org> Subject:

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
I’m with you Michael Though in the case of this proposal I would have one IP address per constrained Device and multiple L2NSA to account for the redundant networks. I would thus not derive the IP from l2NSA but use a table eg a SCHC rule or a 6LoWPAN context to map the IP from the MAC. I’m st

Re: [6lo] 答复: Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Hello Rong Please keep us tuned on the use case and what your final preference is. We could help you skim through possible solutions and do procons games. Regards, Pascal > Le 22 août 2022 à 11:59, longrong a écrit : > > Hi, Michael, > > > As matter of fact, we are dealing with thi

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
You read me wrong Guangpeng. I’m advocating for multiple NSA L2 addresses to reflect redundancy in the network. And a single IP address that remains even if the network changes and maps all the MAC addresses. The consequence is that the IP must not derive from MAC. Though I agree with Micha

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory)
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Richardson > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:41 PM > To: Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory) > > Cc: 6lo <6lo@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of > draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03 > > > "Liguangpeng (Roc, Netw

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory)
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Richardson > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 11:44 PM > To: Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory) > > Cc: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) ; 6lo > <6lo@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of > draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03 >

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Kiran M
Hello Pascal, My apologies for late reply (I am taking some time off). Since I last wrote, thread has progressed quite a bit. Anyways...· What attracted my attention is the  header structure in Figure 6. It is often the case that field devices are smaller 8-bit or16-bit addresses connected to

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Liguangpeng (Roc, Network Technology Laboratory)
Hi Pascal, As you raised before, the redundancy in network is a significant case for the addressing to solve. That's why we wrote another separate draft to discuss this in IETF 114. Multiple L2 MAC addresses may be a solution, but I can not see the whole view of it now. I also support a perma

Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03

2022-08-22 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Thanks Kiran; My view is that IPv6 must smoothly / silently adapt to the network as it exists, which is something that SCHC can help happen. 6LoWPAN can implicitly derive the IPv6 address from the 8 or 16 bits address, that’s the base of the design, with a resulting very short header; in that c