[WiX-users] HowTo check for pressed Cancel Button in Custom Action

2014-04-22 Thread Arthur, Christopher
Hi,

HowTo check for pressed Cancel Button in Custom Action ?

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Re: [WiX-users] HowTo check for pressed Cancel Button in Custom Action

2014-04-22 Thread Phill Hogland
   iResult = MsiProcessMessage(hInstall, INSTALLMESSAGE_PROGRESS,
hProgressRec);
if ((iResult == IDCANCEL))
return ERROR_INSTALL_USEREXIT;
 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367525(v=vs.85).aspx




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Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Bryan Wolf
The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion column to 
65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which should duplicate the 
experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI post-build for this one-off. It 
would be easier if you were not using an assembly file because you could just 
author a RemoveFile table entry associated with the component and it would 
actually cover all bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx can help 
you with assemblies - seems like the answer is "No". 

Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party case is 
always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where something like Burn 
might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper to just purge the old version 
before-hand giving you a clean slate.

-Original Message-
From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

Hello , 

Here is my scenario: 

A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts" 
after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an issue with 
Windows  Installer service and has been around  since 2002. 

I see the following entires in the log file: 

Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file: 
MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{3C582984-7607-3E35-A337-D3D327097351} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:001]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{6D321E57-3E99-3B87-BF23-2CDFF3361CB4} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:003]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{229E8F96-1AE0-32E6-8428-D2CBCA122740} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:006]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{AE56AAF5-F3C0-3D4B-8859-A1E50A3E27BF} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of component:
{4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component with higher 
versioned keyfile exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:029]: skipping installation 
of assembly component:
{F2F5F3C2-7A2E-58A8-81FB-6D05B2446DC5} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:032]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{084F57E8-E40B-5B1E-AABC-7F0A7B77D223} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:035]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{5DF9A9B3-8FBE-57C1-95AE-D08C44084A77} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:041]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{F703FAD2-5314-5C11-B7B3-AA960D6CB678} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:043]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{FB288044-FD6A-5A2C-BE23-BD941E55B184} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:046]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{7DF41602-3F0E-5FED-BC1B-3E55EB39E439} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:049]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{F1A4761C-24F2-5A42-9BAE-B9E3AFFA9F51} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:056]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{9ED4023C-789C-5FB2-B8AD-19FE3B0B816F} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:195]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{EA346F23-593F-5D59-9605-5B764FC05873} since the assembly already exists MSI 
(s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:199]: skipping installation of assembly component:
{3CAED2EB-627D-52F7-AD44-7138E03EE961} since the assembly already exists 



To solve this, i have come across the following suggestions: 
-Schedule  "RemoveExistingProducts" earlier  in the   sequence, even before
costing i.e before CostInitialize.However, doing that violates  the guidelines 
laid out by MSDN. MSDN suggests a sequencing between InstallValidate and 
Install Initialize as one of the positions. 
InstallValidate is sequenced after costing. Hence, even though this solution 
might work,  this is a violation of  Microsoft rules 

-Use REINSTALLMODE = emus 

-Force the file to be always overwritten -  Not feasible for Wix. Only exists 
in InstallShield 

-Version - Handle the versions properly in the higher versions of the 
installer. 


I agree that  having higher versions of the files in the higher versioned 
installer is the easiest and safest approach.  However, there could be genuine 
cases where you  might want to include lower versions of certain binaires in a 
highver verison of your product.  This is common with third
party binaries.   


So how do you think that this should be handled? 


As usual, any assistance is very much appreciated. 



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Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Phil Wilson
This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB article
it shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least MSI 4.0,
or ship the 4.5 redist.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us

but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a
correct MSI engine too, not too sure on that.

I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of
sequencing REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok. But
you will lose MigrateFeatureState capability.

---
Phil Wilson


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
> The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion column 
> to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which should duplicate the 
> experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI post-build for this one-off. 
> It would be easier if you were not using an assembly file because you could 
> just author a RemoveFile table entry associated with the component and it 
> would actually cover all bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx 
> can help you with assemblies - seems like the answer is "No".
>
> Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party case is 
> always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where something like Burn 
> might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper to just purge the old version 
> before-hand giving you a clean slate.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> Hello ,
>
> Here is my scenario:
>
> A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
> the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
> after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an issue with 
> Windows  Installer service and has been around  since 2002.
>
> I see the following entires in the log file:
>
> Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file:
> MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {3C582984-7607-3E35-A337-D3D327097351} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:001]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {6D321E57-3E99-3B87-BF23-2CDFF3361CB4} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:003]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {229E8F96-1AE0-32E6-8428-D2CBCA122740} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:006]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {AE56AAF5-F3C0-3D4B-8859-A1E50A3E27BF} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of component:
> {4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component with higher 
> versioned keyfile exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:029]: skipping 
> installation of assembly component:
> {F2F5F3C2-7A2E-58A8-81FB-6D05B2446DC5} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:032]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {084F57E8-E40B-5B1E-AABC-7F0A7B77D223} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:035]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {5DF9A9B3-8FBE-57C1-95AE-D08C44084A77} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:041]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {F703FAD2-5314-5C11-B7B3-AA960D6CB678} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:043]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {FB288044-FD6A-5A2C-BE23-BD941E55B184} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:046]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {7DF41602-3F0E-5FED-BC1B-3E55EB39E439} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:049]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {F1A4761C-24F2-5A42-9BAE-B9E3AFFA9F51} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:056]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {9ED4023C-789C-5FB2-B8AD-19FE3B0B816F} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:195]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {EA346F23-593F-5D59-9605-5B764FC05873} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:199]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {3CAED2EB-627D-52F7-AD44-7138E03EE961} since the assembly already exists
>
>
>
> To solve this, i have come across the following suggestions:
> -Schedule  "RemoveExistingProducts" earlier  in the   sequence, even before
> costing i.e before CostInitialize.However, doing that violates  the 
> guidelines laid out by MSDN. MSDN suggests a sequencing between 
> InstallValidate and Install Initialize as one of the positions.
> InstallValidate is sequenced after costing. Hence, even though this solution 
> might work,  this is a violation of  Microsoft rules
>
> -Use REINSTALLMODE = emus
>
> -Force the file to be always overwritten -  Not feasible for 

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread b . rasing
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[WiX-users] Burn: different bundles, same msi package - not detected

2014-04-22 Thread Bruce Cran
I have two different products/bundles that install different versions of 
the same msi package. I had expected that the bundle would detect the 
existing installation of the msi and log it as an upgrade, but instead 
it's logging it as "absent" and the subsequent execution of the package 
runs the upgrade anyway.  I'm using WiX 3.9.203.0. Is this expected with 
different bundles, or should the msi package be found by both?

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Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Bryan Wolf
The issue was fixed in MSI 5.0 or if you install the hotfix 
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972397/EN-US), but that won't help him because 
he's down-revving a versioned file. Even if it remains after the major upgrade, 
it will still be version (n) and not (n - 1).

To be honest, I think sequencing REP before CostInitialize is probably the only 
"good" answer for assemblies. As a warning: sequencing REP before 
CostInitialize does cause an ICE27 error.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:04 AM
To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB article it 
shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least MSI 4.0, or ship the 
4.5 redist.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us

but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a correct MSI 
engine too, not too sure on that.

I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of sequencing 
REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok. But you will lose 
MigrateFeatureState capability.

---
Phil Wilson


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
> The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion column 
> to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which should duplicate the 
> experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI post-build for this one-off. 
> It would be easier if you were not using an assembly file because you could 
> just author a RemoveFile table entry associated with the component and it 
> would actually cover all bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx 
> can help you with assemblies - seems like the answer is "No".
>
> Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party case is 
> always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where something like Burn 
> might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper to just purge the old version 
> before-hand giving you a clean slate.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> Hello ,
>
> Here is my scenario:
>
> A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
> the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
> after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an issue with 
> Windows  Installer service and has been around  since 2002.
>
> I see the following entires in the log file:
>
> Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file:
> MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {3C582984-7607-3E35-A337-D3D327097351} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:001]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {6D321E57-3E99-3B87-BF23-2CDFF3361CB4} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:003]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {229E8F96-1AE0-32E6-8428-D2CBCA122740} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:006]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {AE56AAF5-F3C0-3D4B-8859-A1E50A3E27BF} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of component:
> {4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component with higher 
> versioned keyfile exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:029]: skipping 
> installation of assembly component:
> {F2F5F3C2-7A2E-58A8-81FB-6D05B2446DC5} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:032]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {084F57E8-E40B-5B1E-AABC-7F0A7B77D223} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:035]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {5DF9A9B3-8FBE-57C1-95AE-D08C44084A77} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:041]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {F703FAD2-5314-5C11-B7B3-AA960D6CB678} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:043]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {FB288044-FD6A-5A2C-BE23-BD941E55B184} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:046]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {7DF41602-3F0E-5FED-BC1B-3E55EB39E439} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:049]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {F1A4761C-24F2-5A42-9BAE-B9E3AFFA9F51} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:056]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {9ED4023C-789C-5FB2-B8AD-19FE3B0B816F} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:195]: skipping installation of assembly component:
> {EA346F23-593F-5D59-9605-5B764FC05873} since the assembly already exists MSI 
> (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:199]: skipping installa

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Carter Young
I may be talking out the side of my mouth here,, but why cant he  
remove version N doing a version check like so:

http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/files_and_registry/check_the_version_number.html

and then if the Installed file >= N remove said file and replace with N - 1

Carter

Quoting Bryan Wolf :

> The issue was fixed in MSI 5.0 or if you install the hotfix  
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972397/EN-US), but that won't help  
> him because he's down-revving a versioned file. Even if it remains  
> after the major upgrade, it will still be version (n) and not (n - 1).
>
> To be honest, I think sequencing REP before CostInitialize is  
> probably the only "good" answer for assemblies. As a warning:  
> sequencing REP before CostInitialize does cause an ICE27 error.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:04 AM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB  
> article it shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least  
> MSI 4.0, or ship the 4.5 redist.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us
>
> but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a  
> correct MSI engine too, not too sure on that.
>
> I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of  
> sequencing REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok.  
> But you will lose MigrateFeatureState capability.
>
> ---
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
>> The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the  
>> FileVersion column to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion  
>> field, which should duplicate the experience. Alternatively, just  
>> modify the MSI post-build for this one-off. It would be easier if  
>> you were not using an assembly file because you could just author a  
>> RemoveFile table entry associated with the component and it would  
>> actually cover all bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or  
>> RemoveFileEx can help you with assemblies - seems like the answer  
>> is "No".
>>
>> Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party  
>> case is always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where  
>> something like Burn might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper  
>> to just purge the old version before-hand giving you a clean slate.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>
>> Hello ,
>>
>> Here is my scenario:
>>
>> A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
>> the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
>> after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an  
>> issue with Windows  Installer service and has been around  since  
>> 2002.
>>
>> I see the following entires in the log file:
>>
>> Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file:
>> MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly component:
>> {3C582984-7607-3E35-A337-D3D327097351} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:001]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {6D321E57-3E99-3B87-BF23-2CDFF3361CB4} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:003]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {229E8F96-1AE0-32E6-8428-D2CBCA122740} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:006]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {AE56AAF5-F3C0-3D4B-8859-A1E50A3E27BF} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of  
>> component:
>> {4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component  
>> with higher versioned keyfile exists MSI (s) (48:F0)  
>> [07:39:21:029]: skipping installation of assembly component:
>> {F2F5F3C2-7A2E-58A8-81FB-6D05B2446DC5} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:032]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {084F57E8-E40B-5B1E-AABC-7F0A7B77D223} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:035]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {5DF9A9B3-8FBE-57C1-95AE-D08C44084A77} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:041]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {F703FAD2-5314-5C11-B7B3-AA960D6CB678} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:043]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {FB288044-FD6A-5A2C-BE23-BD941E55B184} since the assembly already  
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:046]: skipping installation of  
>> assembly component:
>> {7DF41602-3F0E-5FED-BC1B-3E55EB39E439} since the assembly alrea

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Bryan Wolf
As far as I'm aware, neither FileSearch, DirectorySearch, RemoveFile or 
RemoveFileEx can target Assemblies because the paths to them are generated and 
the FileKeys don't point to those assembly paths. 

Otherwise it would be easy to just do a Remove File table entry and all will 
work "automagically" including update, uninstall, rollback, etc. with the note 
that you'll always end up reinstalling that file (desirable) and skip the 
search entirely.

-Original Message-
From: Carter Young [mailto:ecyo...@grandecom.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:18 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

I may be talking out the side of my mouth here,, but why cant he remove version 
N doing a version check like so:

http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/files_and_registry/check_the_version_number.html

and then if the Installed file >= N remove said file and replace with N - 1

Carter

Quoting Bryan Wolf :

> The issue was fixed in MSI 5.0 or if you install the hotfix 
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972397/EN-US), but that won't help 
> him because he's down-revving a versioned file. Even if it remains 
> after the major upgrade, it will still be version (n) and not (n - 1).
>
> To be honest, I think sequencing REP before CostInitialize is probably 
> the only "good" answer for assemblies. As a warning:
> sequencing REP before CostInitialize does cause an ICE27 error.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:04 AM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB article 
> it shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least MSI 4.0, 
> or ship the 4.5 redist.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us
>
> but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a 
> correct MSI engine too, not too sure on that.
>
> I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of 
> sequencing REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok.
> But you will lose MigrateFeatureState capability.
>
> ---
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
>> The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion 
>> column to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which should 
>> duplicate the experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI 
>> post-build for this one-off. It would be easier if you were not using 
>> an assembly file because you could just author a RemoveFile table 
>> entry associated with the component and it would actually cover all 
>> bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx can help you with 
>> assemblies - seems like the answer is "No".
>>
>> Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party 
>> case is always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where 
>> something like Burn might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper to 
>> just purge the old version before-hand giving you a clean slate.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>
>> Hello ,
>>
>> Here is my scenario:
>>
>> A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
>> the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
>> after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an 
>> issue with Windows  Installer service and has been around  since 
>> 2002.
>>
>> I see the following entires in the log file:
>>
>> Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file:
>> MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly component:
>> {3C582984-7607-3E35-A337-D3D327097351} since the assembly already 
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:001]: skipping installation of 
>> assembly component:
>> {6D321E57-3E99-3B87-BF23-2CDFF3361CB4} since the assembly already 
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:003]: skipping installation of 
>> assembly component:
>> {229E8F96-1AE0-32E6-8428-D2CBCA122740} since the assembly already 
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:006]: skipping installation of 
>> assembly component:
>> {AE56AAF5-F3C0-3D4B-8859-A1E50A3E27BF} since the assembly already 
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of
>> component:
>> {4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component with 
>> higher versioned keyfile exists MSI (s) (48:F0)
>> [07:39:21:029]: skipping installation of assembly component:
>> {F2F5F3C2-7A2E-58A8-81FB-6D05B2446DC5} since the assembly already 
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:032]: skipping installation of 
>> assembly component:
>> {084F57E8-E40B-5B1E-AABC-7F0A7B77D223} since the assembly already 
>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Carter Young
Dobt all Assemblies get added to the GAC though?? Then use the Version  
Search to Search the GAC.  Could be totally wrong, I just know how it  
feels when a relatively easy task turns into a mountain...

Quoting Bryan Wolf :

> As far as I'm aware, neither FileSearch, DirectorySearch, RemoveFile  
> or RemoveFileEx can target Assemblies because the paths to them are  
> generated and the FileKeys don't point to those assembly paths.
>
> Otherwise it would be easy to just do a Remove File table entry and  
> all will work "automagically" including update, uninstall, rollback,  
> etc. with the note that you'll always end up reinstalling that file  
> (desirable) and skip the search entirely.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carter Young [mailto:ecyo...@grandecom.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:18 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> I may be talking out the side of my mouth here,, but why cant he  
> remove version N doing a version check like so:
>
> http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/files_and_registry/check_the_version_number.html
>
> and then if the Installed file >= N remove said file and replace with N - 1
>
> Carter
>
> Quoting Bryan Wolf :
>
>> The issue was fixed in MSI 5.0 or if you install the hotfix
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972397/EN-US), but that won't help
>> him because he's down-revving a versioned file. Even if it remains
>> after the major upgrade, it will still be version (n) and not (n - 1).
>>
>> To be honest, I think sequencing REP before CostInitialize is probably
>> the only "good" answer for assemblies. As a warning:
>> sequencing REP before CostInitialize does cause an ICE27 error.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:04 AM
>> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>
>> This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB article
>> it shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least MSI 4.0,
>> or ship the 4.5 redist.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us
>>
>> but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a
>> correct MSI engine too, not too sure on that.
>>
>> I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of
>> sequencing REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok.
>> But you will lose MigrateFeatureState capability.
>>
>> ---
>> Phil Wilson
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
>>> The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion
>>> column to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which should
>>> duplicate the experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI
>>> post-build for this one-off. It would be easier if you were not using
>>> an assembly file because you could just author a RemoveFile table
>>> entry associated with the component and it would actually cover all
>>> bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx can help you with
>>> assemblies - seems like the answer is "No".
>>>
>>> Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party
>>> case is always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where
>>> something like Burn might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper to
>>> just purge the old version before-hand giving you a clean slate.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
>>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>>
>>> Hello ,
>>>
>>> Here is my scenario:
>>>
>>> A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
>>> the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
>>> after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an
>>> issue with Windows  Installer service and has been around  since
>>> 2002.
>>>
>>> I see the following entires in the log file:
>>>
>>> Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file:
>>> MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly  
>>> component:
>>> {3C582984-7607-3E35-A337-D3D327097351} since the assembly already
>>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:001]: skipping installation of
>>> assembly component:
>>> {6D321E57-3E99-3B87-BF23-2CDFF3361CB4} since the assembly already
>>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:003]: skipping installation of
>>> assembly component:
>>> {229E8F96-1AE0-32E6-8428-D2CBCA122740} since the assembly already
>>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:006]: skipping installation of
>>> assembly component:
>>> {AE56AAF5-F3C0-3D4B-8859-A1E50A3E27BF} since the assembly already
>>> exists MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of
>>> component:
>>> {4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component with
>>> higher versioned keyfile exists MSI (s

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Bryan Wolf
They could also be in the WinSxS directory but yes.

I just generally would consider traversing the GAC as if it were a directory 
structure worse than just setting the FileVersion or rescheduling REP before 
CostFinalize because you can't guarantee that Microsoft doesn't decide to 
reorganize the whole structure or move it somewhere else ( see also: the 
thousands of complaints they get about its size even though it's a misreported 
size ). Not to mention you're not really supposed to just yank things out of 
the GAC or Win32 assembly stores.

-Original Message-
From: Carter Young [mailto:ecyo...@grandecom.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:54 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

Dobt all Assemblies get added to the GAC though?? Then use the Version Search 
to Search the GAC.  Could be totally wrong, I just know how it feels when a 
relatively easy task turns into a mountain...

Quoting Bryan Wolf :

> As far as I'm aware, neither FileSearch, DirectorySearch, RemoveFile 
> or RemoveFileEx can target Assemblies because the paths to them are 
> generated and the FileKeys don't point to those assembly paths.
>
> Otherwise it would be easy to just do a Remove File table entry and 
> all will work "automagically" including update, uninstall, rollback, 
> etc. with the note that you'll always end up reinstalling that file
> (desirable) and skip the search entirely.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carter Young [mailto:ecyo...@grandecom.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:18 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> I may be talking out the side of my mouth here,, but why cant he 
> remove version N doing a version check like so:
>
> http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/files_and_registr
> y/check_the_version_number.html
>
> and then if the Installed file >= N remove said file and replace with 
> N - 1
>
> Carter
>
> Quoting Bryan Wolf :
>
>> The issue was fixed in MSI 5.0 or if you install the hotfix 
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972397/EN-US), but that won't help 
>> him because he's down-revving a versioned file. Even if it remains 
>> after the major upgrade, it will still be version (n) and not (n - 1).
>>
>> To be honest, I think sequencing REP before CostInitialize is 
>> probably the only "good" answer for assemblies. As a warning:
>> sequencing REP before CostInitialize does cause an ICE27 error.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:04 AM
>> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>
>> This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB article 
>> it shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least MSI 4.0, 
>> or ship the 4.5 redist.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us
>>
>> but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a 
>> correct MSI engine too, not too sure on that.
>>
>> I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of 
>> sequencing REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok.
>> But you will lose MigrateFeatureState capability.
>>
>> ---
>> Phil Wilson
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
>>> The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion 
>>> column to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which 
>>> should duplicate the experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI 
>>> post-build for this one-off. It would be easier if you were not 
>>> using an assembly file because you could just author a RemoveFile 
>>> table entry associated with the component and it would actually 
>>> cover all bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx can 
>>> help you with assemblies - seems like the answer is "No".
>>>
>>> Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party 
>>> case is always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where 
>>> something like Burn might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper 
>>> to just purge the old version before-hand giving you a clean slate.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
>>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>>
>>> Hello ,
>>>
>>> Here is my scenario:
>>>
>>> A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain binaries . In
>>> the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
>>> after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an 
>>> issue with Windows  Installer service and has been around  since 
>>> 2002.
>>>
>>> I see the following entires in the log file:
>>>
>>> Here is a snippet from the  Merlin RTM windows installer log file:
>>> MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:20:997]: skipping installation of assembly

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread Carter Young
Good Call, ill crawl back to my corner now lol :)

Quoting Bryan Wolf :

> They could also be in the WinSxS directory but yes.
>
> I just generally would consider traversing the GAC as if it were a  
> directory structure worse than just setting the FileVersion or  
> rescheduling REP before CostFinalize because you can't guarantee  
> that Microsoft doesn't decide to reorganize the whole structure or  
> move it somewhere else ( see also: the thousands of complaints they  
> get about its size even though it's a misreported size ). Not to  
> mention you're not really supposed to just yank things out of the  
> GAC or Win32 assembly stores.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carter Young [mailto:ecyo...@grandecom.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:54 PM
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>
> Dobt all Assemblies get added to the GAC though?? Then use the  
> Version Search to Search the GAC.  Could be totally wrong, I just  
> know how it feels when a relatively easy task turns into a mountain...
>
> Quoting Bryan Wolf :
>
>> As far as I'm aware, neither FileSearch, DirectorySearch, RemoveFile
>> or RemoveFileEx can target Assemblies because the paths to them are
>> generated and the FileKeys don't point to those assembly paths.
>>
>> Otherwise it would be easy to just do a Remove File table entry and
>> all will work "automagically" including update, uninstall, rollback,
>> etc. with the note that you'll always end up reinstalling that file
>> (desirable) and skip the search entirely.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carter Young [mailto:ecyo...@grandecom.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:18 PM
>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>
>> I may be talking out the side of my mouth here,, but why cant he
>> remove version N doing a version check like so:
>>
>> http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/files_and_registr
>> y/check_the_version_number.html
>>
>> and then if the Installed file >= N remove said file and replace with
>> N - 1
>>
>> Carter
>>
>> Quoting Bryan Wolf :
>>
>>> The issue was fixed in MSI 5.0 or if you install the hotfix
>>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972397/EN-US), but that won't help
>>> him because he's down-revving a versioned file. Even if it remains
>>> after the major upgrade, it will still be version (n) and not (n - 1).
>>>
>>> To be honest, I think sequencing REP before CostInitialize is
>>> probably the only "good" answer for assemblies. As a warning:
>>> sequencing REP before CostInitialize does cause an ICE27 error.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:04 AM
>>> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
>>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files
>>>
>>> This shouldn't apply to later MSI engines - according this KB article
>>> it shouldn't be a problem if you make sure you have at least MSI 4.0,
>>> or ship the 4.5 redist.
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us
>>>
>>> but I vaguely remember the original MSI needs installing with a
>>> correct MSI engine too, not too sure on that.
>>>
>>> I had a call with MS support a while back on that proposed fix of
>>> sequencing REP before CostInitialize and they said it would be ok.
>>> But you will lose MigrateFeatureState capability.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Phil Wilson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bryan Wolf  wrote:
 The always overwrite flag in InstallShield just sets the FileVersion
 column to 65535.0.0.0. WiX has the DefaultVersion field, which
 should duplicate the experience. Alternatively, just modify the MSI
 post-build for this one-off. It would be easier if you were not
 using an assembly file because you could just author a RemoveFile
 table entry associated with the component and it would actually
 cover all bases. But I'm not sure RemoveFile or RemoveFileEx can
 help you with assemblies - seems like the answer is "No".

 Down-versioning files is always a rough experience. The third party
 case is always an especially nasty one; sometimes that's where
 something like Burn might be able to help or a custom bootstrapper
 to just purge the old version before-hand giving you a clean slate.

 -Original Message-
 From: kirannhegde [mailto:kirann.he...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 11:30 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

 Hello ,

 Here is my scenario:

 A  higher version installer contains lower version of certain  
 binaries . In
 the higher versioned installer,  sequencing   "RemoveExistingProducts"
 after  "InstallInitialize"  results in missing files.  This is an
 issue with Windows  Installer service and has been around  since
 2002.
>>>

Re: [WiX-users] Major upgrade removing files

2014-04-22 Thread kirannhegde
Folks,

Thanks for all the responses.

This issue happens even with normal files(not just assemblies)
MSI (s) (48:F0) [07:39:21:024]: Disallowing installation of component:
{4D2EB851-13AC-500F-9704-AB78102F8D0F} since the same component with higher
versioned keyfile exists 

I dont want to implement a solution on a case by case basis. I want a
generic solution which once implemented continues to work for any file, if 
that file has to be downgraded.

Sequencing REP seems the most appropriate at the moment.

Regards,
Kiran Hegde



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