Re: [WiX-users] changes to support upgrades ? help !

2013-09-26 Thread nkshirsagar
hi phil,

I have a data file installed in version 1.0 in say path c:\installedproduct.
I need to preserve this file upon upgrade because the application changes
this file and I need the changes for the upgraded application.

If the version 2.0 is installed in say c:\anotherlocation , how would I
ensure that the c:\installedproduct data file is copied over?



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[WiX-users] prerequisite bootstrapper application in silent mode

2013-09-26 Thread tom

Hi,

Is it possible to run prerequisite bootstrapper application in silent mode
when MBA run in silent mode

and in UI mode when MBA run in UI mode?

Thanks in advance





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Re: [WiX-users] prerequisite bootstrapper application in silent mode

2013-09-26 Thread tom


Specify  InstallCommand="/q" will run .NET framework in silent mode 

but when I run my setup.exe in UI mode ,the prerequisite bootstrapper 
doesn’t show

the license link and the buttons




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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread John Cooper
I would be very happy to volunteer to do this if the requisite VS 2013 bits 
could be made available to me.

Don't know if my manager can get them from Microsoft under our contract with 
them or not--he's new anyway.

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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:50 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; General discussion 
for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases


Rob,
 
 What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating installers that 
register project and item templates as well as tweaking project templates.  
I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The whole 
EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few things 
that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?   

  I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this small 
community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin back 
or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has sailed.

For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects and WiX 
projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next release and 
keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how I roll.

Chris


 From: "Rob Mensching" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in Votive. 
I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add the support or 
do *something* to take some burden off the people who volunteer time on the WiX 
toolset before asking again.

I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do work for 
you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests actually start to 
*discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If the feature 
gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not because of them. 


PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago so I 
apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you that 
regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and generally help make 
the WiX toolset better, thank you.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
wrote:

> It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/ 
> 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
wrote:
>
>> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
>>
>> Also to update my archive ;)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Albert van Peppen
>> ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
(January
>> 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
>> Verzonden: 25 September 2013 17:03
>> Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Onderwerp: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> Yeah. There were no changes until late last week. There will be a new 
>> build soon. Were you waiting for those couple changes?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Albert van Peppen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, the latest release is still dated August 26, 2013 (WiX
3.8.826.0)
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Albert van Peppen
>> >
>> > ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0 
>> > (January
>> > 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
>> >
>> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> > Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
>> > Verzonden: 25 September 2013 08:33
>> > Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> > Onderwerp: Re: [WiX-users] Weekly releases
>> >
>> > They should be back now.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ivanoff, Alex 
>> > > > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > When will weekly releases be back?
>> > >
>> > > 

>> > > --
>> > > --

[WiX-users] Error message during install

2013-09-26 Thread Chris Lord
All, 
I've got a customer who's getting an error when trying to install my 
application, the installer of which was generated using Wix and Burn. From the 
burn log, I can see the installer attempts to cache the bundle and the logs 
reads thus 

[1194:1198][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Registering bundle dependency provider: 
{5a999e0c-c2c8-4911-8eb4-6ee3d03271c8}, version: 1.6.5.111 
[11A4:11EC][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract all files 
from container. 
[11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Faild to begin and wait for 
operation. 
[11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract payload: 
a2 from container: WixAttachedContainer 

I know error 0x80004005 is an "access denied" error but does anyone know why 
that would be generated? Can anyone shed light on what Burn is trying to do at 
this point in the installation as that will help me debug what's going on. 

Thanks 

Chris 

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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread John Cooper
Ok, looks like I can access that.  Just need manager approval now.

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From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:00 AM
To: John Cooper; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

The 2013 RC bits are available:

http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/2013-downloads#d-2013-editions


Last I read, RTM is next month and GA is in November.


From: "John Cooper" mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:39 AM
To: "chr...@iswix.com" 
mailto:chr...@iswix.com>>, "General discussion for Windows 
Installer XML toolset." 
mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

I would be very happy to volunteer to do this if the requisite VS 2013 bits 
could be made available to me.

Don't know if my manager can get them from Microsoft under our contract with 
them or not--he's new anyway.

--
John Merryweather Cooper
Build & Install Engineer -- ESA
Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.(r)
Shawnee Mission, KS 66227
Office: 913-341-3434 x791011
jocoo...@jackhenry.com
www.jackhenry.com



-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:50 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; General discussion 
for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases


Rob,

What's the LOE for this effort? I have experience creating installers that 
register project and item templates as well as tweaking project templates. I've 
done a little bit of AddOn work but not much. The whole
EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me. Is it just a few things
that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?

I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it. In this small
community, I'm not sure how many people could. If we only had Justin back
or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in I guess that ship has sailed.

For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects and WiX 
projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next release and 
keep the other on an old but tried and true platform. That's how I roll.

Chris


From: "Rob Mensching" mailto:r...@robmensching.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in Votive. 
I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add the support or 
do *something* to take some burden off the people who volunteer time on the WiX 
toolset before asking again.

I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do work for 
you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests actually start to 
*discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If the feature 
gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not because of them. 


PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago so I 
apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you that 
regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and generally help make 
the WiX toolset better, thank you.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
mailto:r...@robmensching.com>>
wrote:

> It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/
> 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
mailto:alex.ivan...@shavlik.com>>wrote:
>
>> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
>>
>> Also to update my archive ;)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Albert van Peppen
>> ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
(January
>> 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijk 

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Painter
The 2013 RC bits are available:

http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/2013-downloads#d-2013-editions

Last I read, RTM is next month and GA is in November.  


 From: "John Cooper" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:39 AM
To: "chr...@iswix.com" , "General discussion for Windows 
Installer XML toolset." 
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

I would be very happy to volunteer to do this if the requisite VS 2013 bits 
could be made available to me.

Don't know if my manager can get them from Microsoft under our contract 
with them or not--he's new anyway.

--
John Merryweather Cooper
Build & Install Engineer -- ESA
Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.(r)
Shawnee Mission, KS  66227
Office:  913-341-3434 x791011
jocoo...@jackhenry.com
www.jackhenry.com

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:50 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; General 
discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

Rob,

What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating installers that 
register project and item templates as well as tweaking project templates.  
I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The whole 
EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few things 

that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?   

I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this small 
community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin back 

or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has 
sailed.

For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects and 
WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next release 
and keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how I 
roll.

Chris


From: "Rob Mensching" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in 
Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add the 
support or do *something* to take some burden off the people who volunteer 
time on the WiX toolset before asking again.

I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do work 
for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests actually 
start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If 
the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not because 
of them. 

PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago so I 
apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you 
that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and generally 
help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
wrote:

> It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/ 
> 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
wrote:
>
>> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
>>
>> Also to update my archive ;)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Albert van Peppen
>> ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
(January
>> 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
>>
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
>> Verzonden: 25 September 2013 17:03
>> Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Onderwerp: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>>
>> Yeah. There were no changes until late last week. There will be a new 
>> build soon. Were you waiting for those couple changes?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Albert van Peppen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, the latest release is still dated August 26, 2013 (WiX
3.8.826.0)
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Albert van Peppen
>> >
>> > ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0 
>> > (January
>> > 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
>> >
>> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> > Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
>> > Verzonden: 25 S

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Error message during install

2013-09-26 Thread Rob Mensching
Process Monitor is usually where I turn when I get a mysterious file
locking/access denied issue. Often we see virus checker's messing with Burn
in these scenarios but would be great to know for sure.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Chris Lord wrote:

> All,
> I've got a customer who's getting an error when trying to install my
> application, the installer of which was generated using Wix and Burn. From
> the burn log, I can see the installer attempts to cache the bundle and the
> logs reads thus
>
> [1194:1198][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Registering bundle dependency provider:
> {5a999e0c-c2c8-4911-8eb4-6ee3d03271c8}, version: 1.6.5.111
> [11A4:11EC][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract all
> files from container.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Faild to begin and
> wait for operation.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract
> payload: a2 from container: WixAttachedContainer
>
> I know error 0x80004005 is an "access denied" error but does anyone know
> why that would be generated? Can anyone shed light on what Burn is trying
> to do at this point in the installation as that will help me debug what's
> going on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [WiX-users] Bundle, payload and not copying to cache...

2013-09-26 Thread Rob Mensching
All payloads are copied to secure location in Package Cache to ensure they
can't be tampered with and used as an attack vector to get elevated access
to the machine.  Cache='no' means to not leave the files in the cache when
complete.


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Cristian Prieto  wrote:

> I'm trying to bootstrap SQL Server Standard installation in my Wix setup...
> So far I've done this:
>
> Cache   = "no"
>   PerMachine  = "yes"
>   Vital   = "yes"
>   DisplayName = "SQL Server 2012 STD"
>   Description = "Installs SQL 2012 STD Biztools
> Instance"
>   InstallCommand  =
> "/SQLSYSADMINACCOUNTS="BUILTIN\Administrators"
> "%USERDOMAIN%\%USERNAME%" "NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK
> SERVICE" /ASSYSADMINACCOUNTS="BUILTIN\Administrators"
> "%USERDOMAIN%\%USERNAME%" "NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK
> SERVICE" /HIDECONSOLE /SkipRules=RebootRequiredCheck
> /configurationfile="ConfigurationFile.ini""
>   RepairCommand   = "/Q /ACTION=Repair /HIDECONSOLE
> /configurationfile="ConfigurationFile.ini""
>   UninstallCommand= "/Q /ACTION=Uninstall /HIDECONSOLE
> /configurationfile="ConfigurationFile.ini""
>   Name=  "SQL\Setup.exe"
>   SourceFile  = "SQL\Setup.exe"
>   DetectCondition = "SQLInstanceFound"
>   SuppressSignatureVerification="yes">
> 
>   
>
> Directory structure looks like this:
> \SetupBootStrapper.exe
> \SQL\Setup.exe ß launches sql installer
> \SQL\x86\
> \SQL\redist\
>
>
> The problem is that when I run the package I see this in the logs...
>
> [0F14:03B0][2013-09-25T19:42:58]i338: Acquiring package: SQLServer2012,
> payload: SQLServer2012, copy from: C:\install\SQL\Setup.exe
> [0F14:03B0][2013-09-25T19:42:58]i000: Setting string variable
> 'WixBundleLastUsedSource' to value 'C:\install\'
> [0EF4:03A8][2013-09-25T19:42:58]i305: Verified acquired payload:
> SQLServer2012 at path: C:\ProgramData\Package
> Cache\.unverified\SQLServer2012, moving to: C:\ProgramData\Package
> Cache\24876E94686BBFDD2EBBC5BD8FE20598EA85DB10\SQL\Setup.exe.
> [0EF4:0858][2013-09-25T19:42:58]i301: Applying execute package:
> SQLServer2012, action: Install, path: C:\ProgramData\Package
> Cache\24876E94686BBFDD2EBBC5BD8FE20598EA85DB10\SQL\Setup.exe, arguments:
> '"C:\ProgramData\Package
> Cache\24876E94686BBFDD2EBBC5BD8FE20598EA85DB10\SQL\Setup.exe"
> /SQLSYSADMINACCOUNTS="BUILTIN\Administrators" "%USERDOMAIN%\%USERNAME%" "NT
> AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE" /ASSYSADMINACCOUNTS="BUILTIN\Administrators"
> "%USERDOMAIN%\%USERNAME%" "NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE" /HIDECONSOLE
> /SkipRules=RebootRequiredCheck /configurationfile="ConfigurationFile.ini"'
> [0EF4:0858][2013-09-25T19:43:04]e000: Error 0x84c40035: Process returned
> error: 0x84c40035
>
> Yeah, it copies everything to the Package Cache directory (even when
> specifying cache="no")...
>
> What I think I need is:
>
> * Using payload
> http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/xsd/wix/payload.html to copy
> all directories and files to the Package Cache directory before initiating
> the installation
> * Telling to run from the SQL Server installation root directory instead of
> from the Package Cache, avoiding to copy without need to the directory.
>
> I will prefer the last option so it will (in theory) use a lot less space
> for installation.
>
> Any hint?
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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Error message during install

2013-09-26 Thread Hoover, Jacob
Wasn't there a bug a while back where the ACL's on the package cache were 
getting messed up and causing similar behaviors?  What version of Wix is your 
installer using?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:03 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Error message during install

Process Monitor is usually where I turn when I get a mysterious file 
locking/access denied issue. Often we see virus checker's messing with Burn in 
these scenarios but would be great to know for sure.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Chris Lord wrote:

> All,
> I've got a customer who's getting an error when trying to install my 
> application, the installer of which was generated using Wix and Burn. 
> From the burn log, I can see the installer attempts to cache the 
> bundle and the logs reads thus
>
> [1194:1198][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Registering bundle dependency provider:
> {5a999e0c-c2c8-4911-8eb4-6ee3d03271c8}, version: 1.6.5.111
> [11A4:11EC][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract 
> all files from container.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Faild to begin and 
> wait for operation.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract
> payload: a2 from container: WixAttachedContainer
>
> I know error 0x80004005 is an "access denied" error but does anyone 
> know why that would be generated? Can anyone shed light on what Burn 
> is trying to do at this point in the installation as that will help me 
> debug what's going on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
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Re: [WiX-users] changes to support upgrades ? help !

2013-09-26 Thread Phil Wilson
The design of your install (and probably the app that uses that file) is
incorrect. A data file that needs preserving from one install through
upgrades and so on needs to be in a Common Files or Application Data
location. If the app uses the file in the installation folder, then the
app's design is lacking. Apart from causing the issue you have here, in
order to update data files in the install folder (which is usually the
program files folder) the app needs admin privilege, restricting its use to
administrator privilege.  Most likely there is some lazy program code that
references the unqualified file name, requiring it to be in the same
location as the program.

In order to fix your problem (without fixing the design) your install needs
to:
1. Preserve somewhere its install location so that the upgrade install can
locate the old data file.
2. Use something like the CopyFile element to copy the file from that old
location to the new install location. The source and destination will be
properties, source that old location and destination the new install
location.

Plus the usual MajorUpgrade element changes etc for the upgrade.

Phil Wilson


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:33 AM, nkshirsagar  wrote:

> hi phil,
>
> I have a data file installed in version 1.0 in say path
> c:\installedproduct.
> I need to preserve this file upon upgrade because the application changes
> this file and I need the changes for the upgraded application.
>
> If the version 2.0 is installed in say c:\anotherlocation , how would I
> ensure that the c:\installedproduct data file is copied over?
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/changes-to-support-upgrades-help-tp7589169p7589227.html
> Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread Rob Mensching
Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because
I basically know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except to
fix build breaks due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish
weren't there).

That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were
volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff then
we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
post:
http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/-
"There are no code pixies".

Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if you're
not helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going to
taken kindly.
PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you to
all of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending good
bug reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping
improve the WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
 On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter wrote:

>
> Rob,
>
>  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating installers
> that register project and item templates as well as tweaking project
> templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The whole
> EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few things
> that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
>
>   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this small
> community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin back
> or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has
> sailed.
>
> For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects and
> WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next release
> and keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how I
> roll.
>
> Chris
>
> 
>  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> 
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in
> Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add
> the
> support or do *something* to take some burden off the people who volunteer
> time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
>
> I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do
> work
> for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests actually
> start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If
> the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not
> because
> of them. 
>
> PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago so
> I
> apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you
> that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and generally
> help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
> wrote:
>
> > It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/
> > 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
> >>
> >> Also to update my archive ;)
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Albert van Peppen
> >> ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
> (January
> >> 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
> >>
> >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> >> Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> >> Verzonden: 25 September 2013 17:03
> >> Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Onderwerp: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> Yeah. There were no changes until late last week. There will be a new
> >> build soon. Were you waiting for those couple changes?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Albert van Peppen 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm, the latest release is still dated August 26, 2013 (WiX
> 3.8.826.0)
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Albert van Peppen
> >> >
> >> > ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases sinc

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Error message during install

2013-09-26 Thread Chris Lord
Thanks for the reply, Rob.  I saw someone mention about AV software interfering 
with installations when I was researching the error message and I've already 
suggested to my customer that they turn their anti-virus off if they have any 
to do the install.  We'll see if that makes any difference.  

If it doesn't, I'll see if I can get them to use process monitor and get back 
to you with any results.

Thanks

Chris


- Original Message -
From: "Rob Mensching" 
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:03:27 PM
Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re:  Error message during install

Process Monitor is usually where I turn when I get a mysterious file
locking/access denied issue. Often we see virus checker's messing with Burn
in these scenarios but would be great to know for sure.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Chris Lord wrote:

> All,
> I've got a customer who's getting an error when trying to install my
> application, the installer of which was generated using Wix and Burn. From
> the burn log, I can see the installer attempts to cache the bundle and the
> logs reads thus
>
> [1194:1198][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Registering bundle dependency provider:
> {5a999e0c-c2c8-4911-8eb4-6ee3d03271c8}, version: 1.6.5.111
> [11A4:11EC][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract all
> files from container.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Faild to begin and
> wait for operation.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract
> payload: a2 from container: WixAttachedContainer
>
> I know error 0x80004005 is an "access denied" error but does anyone know
> why that would be generated? Can anyone shed light on what Burn is trying
> to do at this point in the installation as that will help me debug what's
> going on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Error message during install

2013-09-26 Thread Chris Lord

Jacob,

It's Wix V3.6.3303.0 which if I recall is the stable reversion of WiX 3.6.

Chris

- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Hoover" 
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 

Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:07:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re:  Error message during install

Wasn't there a bug a while back where the ACL's on the package cache were 
getting messed up and causing similar behaviors?  What version of Wix is your 
installer using?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:03 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Error message during install

Process Monitor is usually where I turn when I get a mysterious file 
locking/access denied issue. Often we see virus checker's messing with Burn in 
these scenarios but would be great to know for sure.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Chris Lord wrote:

> All,
> I've got a customer who's getting an error when trying to install my 
> application, the installer of which was generated using Wix and Burn. 
> From the burn log, I can see the installer attempts to cache the 
> bundle and the logs reads thus
>
> [1194:1198][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Registering bundle dependency provider:
> {5a999e0c-c2c8-4911-8eb4-6ee3d03271c8}, version: 1.6.5.111
> [11A4:11EC][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract 
> all files from container.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Faild to begin and 
> wait for operation.
> [11A4:11E8][2013-09-26T18:20:10]: Error 0x80004005: Failed to extract
> payload: a2 from container: WixAttachedContainer
>
> I know error 0x80004005 is an "access denied" error but does anyone 
> know why that would be generated? Can anyone shed light on what Burn 
> is trying to do at this point in the installation as that will help me 
> debug what's going on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread John H Bergman (XPedient)
I may have some time later this weekend to take a swing at it; is there any 
documentation around that describes how to setup an environment to build (and 
maybe test) with?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:38 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because I basically 
know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except to fix build breaks 
due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish weren't there).

That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were 
volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff then 
we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
post:
http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/-
"There are no code pixies".

Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if you're not 
helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going to taken 
kindly.
PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you to all 
of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending good bug 
reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping improve the 
WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
 On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter wrote:

>
> Rob,
>
>  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating 
> installers that register project and item templates as well as 
> tweaking project templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not 
> much.  The whole
> EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few things
> that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
>
>   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this small
> community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin back
> or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has 
> sailed.
>
> For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET 
> projects and WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one 
> to the next release and keep the other on an old but tried and true 
> platform.  That's how I roll.
>
> Chris
>
> 
>  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> 
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support 
> in Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to 
> add the support or do *something* to take some burden off the people 
> who volunteer time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
>
> I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do 
> work for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests 
> actually start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature 
> for you. If the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated 
> requests, not because of them. 
>
> PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago 
> so I apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those 
> of you that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and 
> generally help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
> wrote:
>
> > It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/ 
> > 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
> >>
> >> Also to update my archive ;)
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Albert van Peppen
> >> ** WiX Releases Archive - All WiX releases since WiX 2.0.5213.0
> (January
> >> 2008) at http://madbutcher.dyndns.org/snippets/wix/
> >>
> >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> >> Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> >> Verzonden: 25 September 2013 17:03
> >> Aan: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Onderwerp: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly rele

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Painter
Rob,

 Are there known votive issues other then it's not wired up to VS2013 yet?  
 The reason I ask is because I just setup a VM with  VS2013 and WiX 3.7 and 
was able to perform a few file copies and devenv /setup (may not be needed, 
will reproduce to confirm )  and get the WiX VSIX package to load in 
VS2012.  I just created a setup project and built an MSI.  Not full testing 
but it seems possible barring any other issues. 

Perhaps there are other issues and you know this and have left it out of 
the installer until it's stable?

Regards,
Chris


 From: "Rob Mensching" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:43 AM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because
I basically know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except to
fix build breaks due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish
weren't there).

That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were
volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff 
then
we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
post:
http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8
/-
"There are no code pixies".

Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if you're
not helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going to
taken kindly.
PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you to
all of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending good
bug reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping
improve the WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter 
wrote:

>
> Rob,
>
>  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating installers
> that register project and item templates as well as tweaking project
> templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The 
whole
> EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few 
things
> that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
>
>   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this 
small
> community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin 
back
> or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has
> sailed.
>
> For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects 
and
> WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next 
release
> and keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how I
> roll.
>
> Chris
>
> 
>  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> 
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in
> Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add
> the
> support or do *something* to take some burden off the people who 
volunteer
> time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
>
> I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do
> work
> for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests 
actually
> start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If
> the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not
> because
> of them. 
>
> PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago 
so
> I
> apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you
> that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and 
generally
> help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
> wrote:
>
> > It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/
> > 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >>
> >> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes later ;)
> >>
> >> Also to update my archive ;)
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Albert van Peppen
> >> ** WiX Releases Arch

[WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Painter
I wanted to pass on the results of a test I did today.  I started with a 
Win7 VM with IE10 (prereq of VS) and VS2013.  I then performed the 
following steps:

Copy Files from a VS2010/VS2012 Dev Machine to the VM:

[ProgramFilesFolder]WiX Toolset v3.7\bin
IncludeFile.ico
LocationFile.ico
ProductFile.ico
ProjectFile.ico
WixLibraryFile.ico
sconce2010.dll
votive2010.dll

[ProgramFilesFolder]Microsoft Visual Studio 
11.0\Common7\IDE\Extensions\Microsoft\WiX

Edit the extension.vsixmanifest found in the above WiX directory and add a 
new section: 


 Ultimate
 Premium
 Pro
 Express_All
 Open VS2012 Native Tools Comand Prompt and execute:
devenv /setup

Results:
Help About shows Windows Installer XML 3.7 and File | New Project shows all 
the expected project types.

I created a setup project and a c# custom action project.  All seemed well. 
 I then created a C++ custom action project.  Intellisense gives me 
squigglies saying it can't find things like WcaInitialize but when I build 
the project it compiles.

I hope this helps.  I'm going to keep refining these procedures as I find 
issues.

Regards,
Christopher Painter 
ISWIX, LLC
chr...@iswix.com


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Re: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Painter
I now see the SDK\VS2010 and SDK\VS2012 folders that include inc and lib 
subfolders.  I suspect this is where much of the work will need to be done 
to make VS specific libs and wired up to the version.  
Unless there is something else I'm missing, I'm thinking that a C++ / WiX 
Installer developer could make relatively short work of this.  I don't 
think there is going to be any scary C# / VSIX work.  (Knock on wood.) 


 From: "Christopher Painter" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:04 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

I wanted to pass on the results of a test I did today.  I started with a 
Win7 VM with IE10 (prereq of VS) and VS2013.  I then performed the 
following steps:

Copy Files from a VS2010/VS2012 Dev Machine to the VM:

[ProgramFilesFolder]WiX Toolset v3.7\bin
IncludeFile.ico
LocationFile.ico
ProductFile.ico
ProjectFile.ico
WixLibraryFile.ico
sconce2010.dll
votive2010.dll

[ProgramFilesFolder]Microsoft Visual Studio 
11.0\Common7\IDE\Extensions\Microsoft\WiX

Edit the extension.vsixmanifest found in the above WiX directory and add a 

new section: 


Ultimate
Premium
Pro
Express_All
 Open VS2012 Native Tools Comand Prompt and execute:
devenv /setup

Results:
Help About shows Windows Installer XML 3.7 and File | New Project shows all 

the expected project types.

I created a setup project and a c# custom action project.  All seemed well. 

I then created a C++ custom action project.  Intellisense gives me 
squigglies saying it can't find things like WcaInitialize but when I build 

the project it compiles.

I hope this helps.  I'm going to keep refining these procedures as I find 
issues.

Regards,
Christopher Painter 
ISWIX, LLC
chr...@iswix.com


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[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread Rob Mensching
http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/wixdev/building_wix.html -
for additional discussion about developing the WiX toolset, please use
wix-devs mailing list. This one is for *using* the WiX toolset.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM, John H Bergman (XPedient) <
john.berg...@xpdnt.com> wrote:

> I may have some time later this weekend to take a swing at it; is there
> any documentation around that describes how to setup an environment to
> build (and maybe test) with?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:38 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because I
> basically know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except to fix
> build breaks due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish weren't
> there).
>
> That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were
> volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff then
> we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
> post:
>
> http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/-
> "There are no code pixies".
>
> Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if you're
> not helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going to
> taken kindly.
> PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
> I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you to
> all of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending good
> bug reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping
> improve the WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
>  On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> >  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating
> > installers that register project and item templates as well as
> > tweaking project templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but
> not much.  The whole
> > EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few
> things
> > that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
> >
> >   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this
> small
> > community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin
> back
> > or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has
> > sailed.
> >
> > For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET
> > projects and WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one
> > to the next release and keep the other on an old but tried and true
> > platform.  That's how I roll.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > 
> >  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >
> > BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support
> > in Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to
> > add the support or do *something* to take some burden off the people
> > who volunteer time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
> >
> > I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do
> > work for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests
> > actually start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature
> > for you. If the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated
> > requests, not because of them. 
> >
> > PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago
> > so I apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those
> > of you that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and
> > generally help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/
> > > 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
> > >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> > >>
> > >> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Albert van Peppen [mailto:alb...@insad.nl]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:43 AM
> > >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> > >>
> > >> Mainly waiting for VS2013 support.. But I guess that comes la

[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread Rob Mensching
Issues are being tracked at http://wixtoolset.org/bugs/. There are a few
issues open tracking the VS2013 work.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Christopher Painter wrote:

> Rob,
>
>  Are there known votive issues other then it's not wired up to VS2013 yet?
>  The reason I ask is because I just setup a VM with  VS2013 and WiX 3.7 and
> was able to perform a few file copies and devenv /setup (may not be needed,
> will reproduce to confirm )  and get the WiX VSIX package to load in
> VS2012.  I just created a setup project and built an MSI.  Not full testing
> but it seems possible barring any other issues.
>
> Perhaps there are other issues and you know this and have left it out of
> the installer until it's stable?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> 
>  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:43 AM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> 
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because
> I basically know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except to
> fix build breaks due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish
> weren't there).
>
> That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were
> volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff
> then
> we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
> post:
>
> http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8
> /-
> "There are no code pixies".
>
> Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if you're
> not helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going to
> taken kindly.
> PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
> I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you to
> all of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending good
> bug reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping
> improve the WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> >  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating installers
> > that register project and item templates as well as tweaking project
> > templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The
> whole
> > EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few
> things
> > that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
> >
> >   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this
> small
> > community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin
> back
> > or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has
> > sailed.
> >
> > For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET projects
> and
> > WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next
> release
> > and keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how I
> > roll.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > 
> >  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >
> > BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support in
> > Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to add
> > the
> > support or do *something* to take some burden off the people who
> volunteer
> > time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
> >
> > I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do
> > work
> > for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests
> actually
> > start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. If
> > the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not
> > because
> > of them. 
> >
> > PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago
> so
> > I
> > apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of you
> > that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and
> generally
> > help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's pretty well laid out here: http://www.joyofsetup.com/
> > > 2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ivanoff, Alex
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Do you have an ETA for VS 2013 support?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:46
> > >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> > >>
> > >> 2013 support is on the list, but hasn't been completed.
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Alb

Re: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

2013-09-26 Thread John Cooper
I don't think it will be hard either.  Just waiting on approval.

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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; 
wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

I now see the SDK\VS2010 and SDK\VS2012 folders that include inc and lib 
subfolders.  I suspect this is where much of the work will need to be done to 
make VS specific libs and wired up to the version.  
Unless there is something else I'm missing, I'm thinking that a C++ / WiX 
Installer developer could make relatively short work of this.  I don't think 
there is going to be any scary C# / VSIX work.  (Knock on wood.) 


 From: "Christopher Painter" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:04 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

I wanted to pass on the results of a test I did today.  I started with a
Win7 VM with IE10 (prereq of VS) and VS2013.  I then performed the following 
steps:

Copy Files from a VS2010/VS2012 Dev Machine to the VM:

[ProgramFilesFolder]WiX Toolset v3.7\bin IncludeFile.ico LocationFile.ico 
ProductFile.ico ProjectFile.ico WixLibraryFile.ico sconce2010.dll votive2010.dll

[ProgramFilesFolder]Microsoft Visual Studio 
11.0\Common7\IDE\Extensions\Microsoft\WiX

Edit the extension.vsixmanifest found in the above WiX directory and add a 

new section: 


Ultimate
Premium
Pro
Express_All
 Open VS2012 Native Tools Comand Prompt and execute:
devenv /setup

Results:
Help About shows Windows Installer XML 3.7 and File | New Project shows all 

the expected project types.

I created a setup project and a c# custom action project.  All seemed well. 

I then created a C++ custom action project.  Intellisense gives me squigglies 
saying it can't find things like WcaInitialize but when I build 

the project it compiles.

I hope this helps.  I'm going to keep refining these procedures as I find 
issues.

Regards,
Christopher Painter
ISWIX, LLC
chr...@iswix.com


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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Painter
I only see 6 open tickets with the votive tag for 3.x.  Only 2 of them 
indicate VS2013 and they seem dupes of each other.  It seems to only be a 
high level "support 2012" bug so it doesn't really seem to spell out the 
work that needs to be done.  I'm guessing it's 40 hours worth of work.   I 
think I could handle half of it if someone else could chip in the C++ 
parts.


 From: "Rob Mensching" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:19 PM
To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 

Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re:  [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases

Issues are being tracked at http://wixtoolset.org/bugs/. There are a few
issues open tracking the VS2013 work.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Christopher Painter 
wrote:

> Rob,
>
>  Are there known votive issues other then it's not wired up to VS2013 
yet?
>  The reason I ask is because I just setup a VM with  VS2013 and WiX 3.7 
and
> was able to perform a few file copies and devenv /setup (may not be 
needed,
> will reproduce to confirm )  and get the WiX VSIX package to load in
> VS2012.  I just created a setup project and built an MSI.  Not full 
testing
> but it seems possible barring any other issues.
>
> Perhaps there are other issues and you know this and have left it out of
> the installer until it's stable?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> 
>  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:43 AM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> 
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
>
> Yes. Getting into Votive can be daunting. I'm not much help because
> I basically know nothing about Votive, I've never worked on it (except 
to
> fix build breaks due to the crazy InternalsVisibleTo attributes I wish
> weren't there).
>
> That's why I suggested people could help in other areas. If there were
> volunteers helping to fix every single other bug *except* Votive stuff
> then
> we'd be in a much better place. Bob calls it pretty straight in his blog
> post:
>
> 
http://www.joyofsetup.com/2013/09/13/getting-from-here-to-there-for-wix-v3-8

> /-
> "There are no code pixies".
>
> Anyway, my fundamental point is: We will make progress. However, if 
you're
> not helping to fix issues, regularly pinging about progress isn't going 
to
> taken kindly.
> PS: I hope the underlying message isn't lost at the end of this thread.
> I'll probably need to distill it down to a blog post. Again, thank you 
to
> all of you who have contributed here by answering questions, sending 
good
> bug reports, and, best of all, sending bug fixes and generally helping
> improve the WiX toolset. You guys are great. Thanks.
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Christopher Painter
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> >  What's the LOE for this effort?  I have experience creating 
installers
> > that register project and item templates as well as tweaking project
> > templates.  I've done a little bit of AddOn work but not much.  The
> whole
> > EnvDTE / VS SDK seemed really complicated to me.   Is it just a few
> things
> > that need to be tweaked here and there or is it a lot more?
> >
> >   I'd love to help, I just don't know if I could handle it.  In this
> small
> > community, I'm not sure how many people could.   If we only had Justin
> back
> > or DevDiv contributing so it could be built in  I guess that ship has
> > sailed.
> >
> > For everyone else, my advice would be to always keep your .NET 
projects
> and
> > WiX projects in different solutions so you can port one to the next
> release
> > and keep the other on an old but tried and true platform.  That's how 
I
> > roll.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > 
> >  From: "Rob Mensching" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:20 PM
> > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Weekly releases
> >
> > BTW, Alex, this is like the 4th time you've asked for VS2013 support 
in
> > Votive. I *highly* recommend you jump in and help write the code to 
add
> > the
> > support or do *something* to take some burden off the people who
> volunteer
> > time on the WiX toolset before asking again.
> >
> > I say this because it's around the 2nd time of asking volunteers to do
> > work
> > for you without offering to help out in anyway that your requests
> actually
> > start to *discourage* volunteers from working on the feature for you. 
If
> > the feature gets done it's often in spite of repeated requests, not
> > because
> > of them. 
> >
> > PS: I know I went off on a rant about this same topic a week or so ago
> so
> > I
> > apologize to those of you that read the list regularly. To those of 
you
> > that regularly answer questions here or write code/fix bugs and
> generally
> > help make the WiX toolset better, thank you.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Mensching 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's pretty well laid out here: 

Re: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

2013-09-26 Thread Christopher Painter
Cool.  Let me know if getting assignment agreements are easier now that 
MSFT isn't involved.If you need any help or if you get a weekly build 
done that's working let me know.  I need to update my ISWIX installer for 
2013 also.   For me it's just edit the AddIn XML to recognize the new 
version and wire up the project templates for the new directory structure.  
  I've created my own customized Setup and Merge Module project types that 
make creating a buildable installer in 3 easy steps (convention over 
configuration).

 http://blog.iswix.com/2013/01/iswix-20130134-released.html


 From: "John Cooper" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:36 PM
To: "chr...@iswix.com" , "General discussion for Windows 
Installer XML toolset." 
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

I don't think it will be hard either.  Just waiting on approval.

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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; 
wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

I now see the SDK\VS2010 and SDK\VS2012 folders that include inc and lib 
subfolders.  I suspect this is where much of the work will need to be done 
to make VS specific libs and wired up to the version.  
Unless there is something else I'm missing, I'm thinking that a C++ / WiX 
Installer developer could make relatively short work of this.  I don't 
think there is going to be any scary C# / VSIX work.  (Knock on wood.) 


From: "Christopher Painter" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:04 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Using WiX 3.7 Votive with VS2013 RC

I wanted to pass on the results of a test I did today.  I started with a
Win7 VM with IE10 (prereq of VS) and VS2013.  I then performed the 
following steps:

Copy Files from a VS2010/VS2012 Dev Machine to the VM:

[ProgramFilesFolder]WiX Toolset v3.7\bin IncludeFile.ico LocationFile.ico 
ProductFile.ico ProjectFile.ico WixLibraryFile.ico sconce2010.dll 
votive2010.dll

[ProgramFilesFolder]Microsoft Visual Studio 
11.0\Common7\IDE\Extensions\Microsoft\WiX

Edit the extension.vsixmanifest found in the above WiX directory and add a 


new section: 


Ultimate
Premium
Pro
Express_All
 Open VS2012 Native Tools Comand Prompt and execute:
devenv /setup

Results:
Help About shows Windows Installer XML 3.7 and File | New Project shows all 


the expected project types.

I created a setup project and a c# custom action project.  All seemed well. 


I then created a C++ custom action project.  Intellisense gives me 
squigglies saying it can't find things like WcaInitialize but when I build 


the project it compiles.

I hope this helps.  I'm going to keep refining these procedures as I find 
issues.

Regards,
Christopher Painter
ISWIX, LLC
chr...@iswix.com



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Re: [WiX-users] changes to support upgrades ? help !

2013-09-26 Thread nkshirsagar
thanks a lot. I'm writing the install location to the registry as of now ..
so the upgrade would read that location from the registry and copy over the
file after installation.. so the earlier file would need to be overwritten.
Where could I schedule this copyfile? Would it be a custom action ? I'd need
to copy the file before the old installation is removed, right? But then
wouldnt the new installation overwrite the file ?



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Re: [WiX-users] changes to support upgrades ? help !

2013-09-26 Thread kirannhegde
I guess what Phil is asking you to do is to make use of MoveFiles action to
accomplish what you want to do. 

The MoveFiles action locates existing files on the user's computer and moves
or copies those files to a new location. The MoveFiles action queries the
MoveFile table and moves files specified there if the component linked to
the entries is specified to be install locally or is being run from source.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa370054(v=vs.85).aspx


So to accomplish this:
-Make use of MoveFiles action to copy the existing file to your new
installation directory
-Schedule RemoveExistingProducts  after InstallFiles but somewhere before 
InstallFinalize

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Kiran Hegde





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