[web2py] Re: web2py -> py4web

2024-07-16 Thread Dave S 


On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 7:10:05 PM UTC-7 Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

Hello everybody,

You may have noticed I am not very active on this mailing list. That is 
mostly because I have been concentrating my energy on py4web which I think 
is must more modern and faster than web2py.

Once again I want to encourage you to move.


I am interested in moving, but I keep leaving corners on my tuits.  I don't 
seem to get them round.

BTW, does the javascript for the views have support for a) session storage 
and b) identifying tabs?
 
[...] 

web2py currently works for python2.7 and python3.7+ but they are using a 
frozen version of pydal. This no longer works on Google App Engine. So how 
do we fix it?

I am considering the following:
- freezing web2py for Python 2.7 and stopping support.
- continuing limited support of web2py for python3.7+ and specifically 
upgrade pydal for the lastest. 
- upgrade pydal so that it continues to work on Google App Engine for both 
web2py and py4web.

My questions are: Is this worth it? Have people moved from python2.7 to 
3.7+ already? Are people here interested in continuing to use web2py with 
GAE?
 

Massimo


I'm no longer supporting a production instance of a web2py app  but I have 
a small public hobby app on digital ocean (python reasonably current 3.x), 
and some personal toy apps which I maybe will make somewhat useful for 
other people.  The toys are running on 3.10.7 on windows using the source 
package (still on 2.22.5 for the moment).

I've been meaning to file a bug report; one of the tuits is supposed to be 
for writing up the details, but basically at some point in version history 
the admin panel stopped sending all the required info needed to make the "next 
100" button work.  The resulting page has an empty query box, an error 
message "cannot be empty", and a url like "[...]
/appadmin/select/db?start=100".  This issue seems to have been in since at 
least 2.21.x, maybe longer.

I've very much enjoyed using web2py over the years, beginning with a 
development lab application for controlling test equipment.  I had a need 
for SOAP, and whatever package I used led me to web2py (likely 
pysimplesoap, but I don't have my lab notes since that lab was closed).  
Eventually I was using web2py for providing a repository for customer dumps 
used by the support team.  And of course, it grew features like being  an 
update server for product firmware and applications.  Ah, fun.

I keep reading the py4web Google Group, so I have some idea of what goes on 
with the New Kid, but still working from my comfort zone.

Dave S
/dps


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[web2py] Re: web2py.com "Not Secure" wrong SSL Cert

2024-07-16 Thread Moe Shakeri 

Hello
I posted two conversions for a web2py upgrade issue but all needs approval 
from one of the admins. Appreciate if anyone could help .Thanks in advance.
On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 2:27:24 PM UTC-7 Brian M wrote:

> FYI -  https://www.web2py.com is giving a "Not secure" warning because 
> the SSL certificate is actually for *.pythonanywhere.com instead of 
> web2py.com.
>
> Your connection is not private
>
> Attackers might be trying to steal your information from *www.web2py.com 
> * (for example, passwords, messages, or credit 
> cards). Learn more
> NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
> This server could not prove that it is *www.web2py.com 
> *; its security certificate is from 
> **.pythonanywhere.com 
> *. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or 
> an attacker intercepting your connection.
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Re: [web2py] web2py -> py4web

2024-07-16 Thread Mitsuhiro TSUDA 
Hello Massimo.

I am currently using the latest version of web2py with Python 3.7+ for more
than a few services.
Thanks to you and the web2py community.

I have been using web2py for a long time.
But I have never used web2py with GAE.

I am interested in py4web and think I need to migrate from web2py, but that
may still take a couple of years.

So I would appreciate it if you could provide web2py support for a little
while longer.

Best regards
Mitsuhiro Tsuda



2024年7月14日(日) 11:10 Massimo Di Pierro :

> Hello everybody,
>
> You may have noticed I am not very active on this mailing list. That is
> mostly because I have been concentrating my energy on py4web which I think
> is must more modern and faster than web2py.
>
> Once again I want to encourage you to move.
> If you look at this page
>
>  https://py4web.com/#why
>
> You will find it to be very familiar:
> - has an admin interface (called _dashboard)
> - has an dbadmin interface
> - same pyDAL
> - same template language
> - same helpers
> - same session interface
> - similar but better Form
> - similar but better Grid (still evolving)
> - different request object but compatible with bottlepy
> - different auth logic but support for more Oauth2 services (github, okta,
> facebook, etc.)
> - different but similar background scheduler
>
> Here are some instructions about how to move from web2py to py4web
>
> web2py currently works for python2.7 and python3.7+ but they are using a
> frozen version of pydal. This no longer works on Google App Engine. So how
> do we fix it?
>
> I am considering the following:
> - freezing web2py for Python 2.7 and stopping support.
> - continuing limited support of web2py for python3.7+ and specifically
> upgrade pydal for the lastest.
> - upgrade pydal so that it continues to work on Google App Engine for both
> web2py and py4web.
>
> My questions are: Is this worth it? Have people moved from python2.7 to
> 3.7+ already? Are people here interested in continuing to use web2py with
> GAE?
>
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
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> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
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[web2py] Re: web2py -> py4web

2024-07-16 Thread Massimo Di Pierro 
It is very encouraging to know people have moved to python 3. :-)

On Tuesday 16 July 2024 at 22:16:03 UTC-4 snide...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 7:10:05 PM UTC-7 Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> You may have noticed I am not very active on this mailing list. That is 
> mostly because I have been concentrating my energy on py4web which I think 
> is must more modern and faster than web2py.
>
> Once again I want to encourage you to move.
>
>
> I am interested in moving, but I keep leaving corners on my tuits.  I 
> don't seem to get them round.
>
> BTW, does the javascript for the views have support for a) session storage 
> and b) identifying tabs?
>  
> [...] 
>
> web2py currently works for python2.7 and python3.7+ but they are using a 
> frozen version of pydal. This no longer works on Google App Engine. So how 
> do we fix it?
>
> I am considering the following:
> - freezing web2py for Python 2.7 and stopping support.
> - continuing limited support of web2py for python3.7+ and specifically 
> upgrade pydal for the lastest. 
> - upgrade pydal so that it continues to work on Google App Engine for both 
> web2py and py4web.
>
> My questions are: Is this worth it? Have people moved from python2.7 to 
> 3.7+ already? Are people here interested in continuing to use web2py with 
> GAE?
>  
>
> Massimo
>
>
> I'm no longer supporting a production instance of a web2py app  but I have 
> a small public hobby app on digital ocean (python reasonably current 3.x), 
> and some personal toy apps which I maybe will make somewhat useful for 
> other people.  The toys are running on 3.10.7 on windows using the source 
> package (still on 2.22.5 for the moment).
>
> I've been meaning to file a bug report; one of the tuits is supposed to be 
> for writing up the details, but basically at some point in version history 
> the admin panel stopped sending all the required info needed to make the 
> "next 
> 100" button work.  The resulting page has an empty query box, an error 
> message "cannot be empty", and a url like "[...]
> /appadmin/select/db?start=100".  This issue seems to have been in since 
> at least 2.21.x, maybe longer.
>
> I've very much enjoyed using web2py over the years, beginning with a 
> development lab application for controlling test equipment.  I had a need 
> for SOAP, and whatever package I used led me to web2py (likely 
> pysimplesoap, but I don't have my lab notes since that lab was closed).  
> Eventually I was using web2py for providing a repository for customer dumps 
> used by the support team.  And of course, it grew features like being  an 
> update server for product firmware and applications.  Ah, fun.
>
> I keep reading the py4web Google Group, so I have some idea of what goes 
> on with the New Kid, but still working from my comfort zone.
>
> Dave S
> /dps
>
>
>

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Re: [web2py] Re: web2py -> py4web

2024-07-16 Thread Carlos Correia 

Hi,

Moving to Python 3 is a must!

As for Web2py I have several servers using it (one of them is an ERP) and I 
don't know when I will have time to move them to Py4web, so I beg you not to 
drop Web2py support.


Best regards,
Carlos

Às 04:49 de 17/07/24, Massimo Di Pierro escreveu:

It is very encouraging to know people have moved to python 3. :-)

On Tuesday 16 July 2024 at 22:16:03 UTC-4 snide...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 7:10:05 PM UTC-7 Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

Hello everybody,

You may have noticed I am not very active on this mailing list. That
is mostly because I have been concentrating my energy on py4web which
I think is must more modern and faster than web2py.

Once again I want to encourage you to move.


I am interested in moving, but I keep leaving corners on my tuits.  I
don't seem to get them round.

BTW, does the javascript for the views have support for a) session storage
and b) identifying tabs?
[...]

web2py currently works for python2.7 and python3.7+ but they are using
a frozen version of pydal. This no longer works on Google App Engine.
So how do we fix it?

I am considering the following:
- freezing web2py for Python 2.7 and stopping support.
- continuing limited support of web2py for python3.7+ and specifically
upgrade pydal for the lastest.
- upgrade pydal so that it continues to work on Google App Engine for
both web2py and py4web.

My questions are: Is this worth it? Have people moved from python2.7
to 3.7+ already? Are people here interested in continuing to use
web2py with GAE?


Massimo


I'm no longer supporting a production instance of a web2py app  but I have
a small public hobby app on digital ocean (python reasonably current 3.x),
and some personal toy apps which I maybe will make somewhat useful for
other people.  The toys are running on 3.10.7 on windows using the source
package (still on 2.22.5 for the moment).

I've been meaning to file a bug report; one of the tuits is supposed to be
for writing up the details, but basically at some point in version history
the admin panel stopped sending all the required info needed to make the
"next 100" button work.  The resulting page has an empty query box, an
error message "cannot be empty", and a url like
"[...]/appadmin/select/db?start=100". This issue seems to have been in
since at least 2.21.x, maybe longer.

I've very much enjoyed using web2py over the years, beginning with a
development lab application for controlling test equipment.  I had a need
for SOAP, and whatever package I used led me to web2py (likely
pysimplesoap, but I don't have my lab notes since that lab was closed). 
Eventually I was using web2py for providing a repository for customer
dumps used by the support team. And of course, it grew features like
being  an update server for product firmware and applications.  Ah, fun.

I keep reading the py4web Google Group, so I have some idea of what goes
on with the New Kid, but still working from my comfort zone.

Dave S
/dps


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[web2py] Re: web2py -> py4web

2024-07-16 Thread Rowdy 

On 14/7/2024 12:10 pm, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

Hello everybody,

You may have noticed I am not very active on this mailing list. That is 
mostly because I have been concentrating my energy on py4web which I 
think is must more modern and faster than web2py.


Once again I want to encourage you to move.


Hi,

At work we have moved away from a web2py solution to a Java solution.

At home I still have a couple of small web2py apps running with Python 2 
under Docker.  No plans to update at this stage (to py4web or Python 3 - 
the apps work fine as they are).


On the py4web GitHub page, in the "Tell me more" section, it notes:

"this is a work in progress and not stable yet but close to being stable"

Is that still the case?

Thanks for a great framework!

Rowdy


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