RE: VNC Viewer

2001-05-09 Thread Daniel Wyllie

Hi Brett,

Assuming you are using Windoz

The history of the VNC Viewer is stored in the registry :

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\VNCviewer\MRU

A list of your addresses will be there. You just have to 
remember to list each entry in the "index" string.

The first letter shown in your index value will be the 
address that it shows when you run the VNC Viewer prog.

Eg:

"index"="ABC"
"A"="my-pc"
"B"="friends-pc"
"C"="NT-Server-PC"

So, you could just make up a list then add it to the registry :)

Regards,
Daniel

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Subject: VNC Viewer


Does anyone know where the IP address history is stored for the VNC Viewer.
I would like to preconfigure a list of addresses for the drop down box.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Brett
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RE: redhat 7.1 vnc issue

2001-05-09 Thread Nigel Morse

I had problems with Redhat 7.1 and VNC but I have it running fine now. I was
using KDE and the apps were crashing out due a color map problem if running
an 8-bit server.  I had to add a -cc 3 option when running the server.

If this isn't your problem:
Do the log files have anything in them?

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Subject: redhat 7.1 vnc issue


This issue occurred once I installed Redhat 7.1.

I am running redhat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.3.  Pretty stock after that. 

Issue:
Various X windows will exit randomly after vncviewer is executed and
connected to a vncserver.

Troubleshooting:
Removed all vnc rpms that shipped with redhat 7.1.
I have dnloaded the 3.3.3r2 both binary and source, and they have the
same random windows exiting problem.

thank you for your time in this matter.
-- 
Mike Cannon
Infrastructure Systems Administrator
Management Information
Purdue University
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West Lafayette, IN  47907-1061

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Re: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread John Harris, MOSMWNMTK

This sounds more like a network issue, even though you say it's a small
LAN.  What is the configuration of  your LAN?

jrh
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:12 PM
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


> I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything
is
> great and the speed is near real-time.
>
> However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
> killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the
server
> (running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
> have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
> running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.
>
> After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
> changing anything.  What could I be missing???
>
> Mark
> vnc 3.3.3r2
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Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?

2001-05-09 Thread girish sonawane

Is there any online demo using VNC available on the
internet ?

Thanks,
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RE: Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?

2001-05-09 Thread William Arbuckle

Tridiavnc..



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Re: Reboot after a remote installation

2001-05-09 Thread Richard Harris

> Perhaps I should rephrase my question. How do I activate vnc
> service after installation w/o a reboot?

If you're using 9x, I don't think you can, but you can on NT/2000.

If you haven't added VNC as a service: namely gone into the Start 
Menu and run the add service icon.

Go into the command prompt and change dir to the VNC folder 
(default = \program files\orl\vnc).

Type "winvnc -install" (enter) and note any error messages.

Then "net start winvnc" (enter) and then "winvnc -servicehelper" 
(enter).

If you have set a password under the key "default" in 
hklm\software\orl\winvnc3 then the service should start up and stay 
running.
 
A common problem is that people set a password as one user and 
forget to set this as the default. This means that the service 
attempts to start, but as no password is set, NT can't start the 
service up.

Hope that helps
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Re: Reboot after a remote installation

2001-05-09 Thread Richard Harris

> Perhaps I should rephrase my question. How do I activate vnc
> service after installation w/o a reboot?

If you're using 9x, I don't think you can, but you can on NT/2000.

If you haven't added VNC as a service: namely gone into the Start 
Menu and run the add service icon.

Go into the command prompt and change dir to the VNC folder 
(default = \program files\orl\vnc).

Type "winvnc -install" (enter) and note any error messages.

Then "net start winvnc" (enter) and then "winvnc -servicehelper" 
(enter).

If you have set a password under the key "default" in 
hklm\software\orl\winvnc3 then the service should start up and stay 
running.
 
A common problem is that people set a password as one user and 
forget to set this as the default. This means that the service 
attempts to start, but as no password is set, NT can't start the 
service up.

Hope that helps
Richard



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RE: win 98se ics and vnc

2001-05-09 Thread Kurt Mysker

Yes, that is exactly the problem, you can either go into the registry and
open them up manually or download ics manager to do the dirty work for you.

Kurt Mysker
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into another mirror, and picking the layer you like best." - Yoursker

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Subject: Re: win 98se ics and vnc


Dear John,

Thanks a lot for your comments! and I think I should explain my case in more
details.

1. The VNC Server (in host PC)is started, and the client PCs can use VNC
Viewer to connect to the Server.
2. The host PC is complete Clean, only install WIN98 SE, ICS, VNC and PWS
4.0.
3. The External IP is correct as I can browse the PWS of the host PC from
outside.
4. The client PCs (in LAN) can telnet the 5900 & 5800 port of the Server PC
for both the intranet IP and exteranl IP.

so, I think the ICS service of win98SE block the 5800 and 5900 ports for
remote access, do anyone think this is correct? anyone has any method to
disable the blocking? Thanks for any comments!!

Peter

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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:32 PM
Subject: RE: win 98se ics and vnc


> I'm not sure I completely follow what you mean, but let me see if I can
> break it down.
>
> Win98se is your "server" computer using ICS to give internet access to
your
> 2 other computers.
>
> VNC is installed on the Win98se machine and you can't connect to it from
the
> outside?
>
> I would say it's a problem with VNC either not being started or something
> like that.  I have a similar setup in many situations with no problems.
> Make sure you know what your external IP is and that it's in correct.
>
> Either that or you have something like Zone Alarm setup and this is
blocking
> it.
>
> If you're running any kind of personal firewall software, then I would
> suspect this to be the problem.
>
> If you are trying to connect to the other 2 clients, well, I'm not certain
> ICS is equipped to do that (though, I'll admit, I've never looked).  About
> the only thing you can do is pass the port on to the client computer. A
> different port for each client.  I know it can be done with M$ proxy on a
> Windows server, and I know it can be done with linux, but with ICS, I'm
not
> certain.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Yeung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: win 98se ics and vnc
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Here is my situation, I install a win98se to a host computer, the host
> computer is connection with other 2 client computers through LAN, they
share
> internet by Internet Connection Sharing. ICS
>
> But the win 98 ics seems block all the port for the VNC to use. I cannot
use
> VNC Viewer to connect to my host from outside. I had tried to change the
> Register, PortNumber to 20, but it doesn't work.
>
> Thanks for your attention, and thanks for any comments..
>
> Best Regard,
> Peter
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Re: Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?

2001-05-09 Thread John Harris, MOSMWNMTK®

I'm just curious as to why you would need an online demo?  It takes
a few minutes at worst to download VNC and hardly more to install 
it on two machines to test it.

If you don't have two networked machines available to test it on, I'm 
more curious as to why you would even want it.

jrh
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Subject: Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?


> Is there any online demo using VNC available on the
> internet ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Girish
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Vnc Regestry settings

2001-05-09 Thread Larry . Shorter

Hello,

 I am working on getting VNC running in our corporation the only
problems we are having are if more than one person connects the first
person is cut off. Well I found that you can add the ConnectPriority and
set the settingh to 2 so that once one person is signed in no one else can.
My problem is I had to had that in the local Machine under software and ORL
there was no default setting there so I was able to add this to the
settings I had since rebooted the server and no luck it still kicks off the
first person. Anyone no what I am doing wrong



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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Joe Campbell

As a follow-on to this problem, but a bit off the subject - 
We too are beginning to implement VNC within our IT shop.  We have all
Windows based computers.
Win 95 on the desktops (soon to be Win2000 Pro) and Windows NT 4.0sp3
servers.
I'm am interested in monitoring network traffic - does anyone have a
utility/tool/method they recommend (preferrably a free one!).
I need something to quickly isolate network problems or rule out/pinpoint
the network as a possible problem - troubleshooting... basically.  Any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Campbell
Express-1, Inc.
429 Post Road 
Buchanan, Michigan 49107

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From: Mark Miksis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything is
great and the speed is near real-time.

However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  

After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
changing anything.  What could I be missing???

Mark
vnc 3.3.3r2
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RE: Reboot after a remote installation

2001-05-09 Thread Schonborg, Thomas

I have VNC running as a service at home on my Win 95 machine. I just ran the
Install Winvnc Service option from the Start menu. I don't recall if that
was 3.3.3r7 or 3.3.3r9 but it was pretty straight forward. I think I also
saw something on the VNC site about doing this. Sorry I don't recall where
but probably in the contributed area.

Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
(505)844-5753 
-- 
There are two major products that come out of Berkley: LSD and Unix. We
don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson



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From: Richard Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: May 09, 2001 5:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reboot after a remote installation


> Perhaps I should rephrase my question. How do I activate vnc
> service after installation w/o a reboot?

If you're using 9x, I don't think you can, but you can on NT/2000.

If you haven't added VNC as a service: namely gone into the Start 
Menu and run the add service icon.

Go into the command prompt and change dir to the VNC folder 
(default = \program files\orl\vnc).

Type "winvnc -install" (enter) and note any error messages.

Then "net start winvnc" (enter) and then "winvnc -servicehelper" 
(enter).

If you have set a password under the key "default" in 
hklm\software\orl\winvnc3 then the service should start up and stay 
running.
 
A common problem is that people set a password as one user and 
forget to set this as the default. This means that the service 
attempts to start, but as no password is set, NT can't start the 
service up.

Hope that helps
Richard



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RE: Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?

2001-05-09 Thread Schonborg, Thomas

There is a video you can d/l from the VNC site. The better the picture
quality the longer the d/l of course. I got the best quality 300k and it
took about 15 minutes on my connection (the place I work enjoys a T3 to the
world). I use it to tell others about VNC. Hope this helps.

Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
(505)844-5753 
-- 
There are two major products that come out of Berkley: LSD and Unix. We
don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson



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Sent: May 08, 2001 11:31 PM
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Subject: Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?


Is there any online demo using VNC available on the
internet ?

Thanks,
Girish

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RE: Dr. Watson error on Win NT 4.0 SP 6

2001-05-09 Thread Warren Beauchamp

We have a similar issue with WinVNC 3.3.3R9, running
on Compaq WinNT 4.0 server with SP6a, IIS4.0
Frontpage2000 extensions, MDAC2.6, Compaq NIC. We have
about 10 servers running similar configurations, and
had been quite happy with the previous version of
WinVNC 3.3.3(R3?). 

With 3.3.3R9 Installation runs fine with the spiffy
new installation tool. We run VNC on an "as needed"
basis, so when we want to use it we go into NT server
manager and fire up the WinVNC server service. The
first time I used it it was fine, but after that I
would start the VNC service, then run the VNC client
and try to access the server. Normally the client
comes right back with either a "server not found" or
the server window. In this case you don't see any
dialog boxes for a couple minutes, and then it comes
up with a socket error message. On the server side you
see a Dr. Watson Error. Shutting down and restarting
the service doesn't help.

I deinstalled 3.3.3R9 and installed 3.3.3R7, and
everything is happy again, except for the fact that I
really miss the new cut and paste feature R9 added.

Looking forward to 3.3.4!

-Warren Beauchamp


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RE: Vnc Regestry settings

2001-05-09 Thread Schonborg, Thomas

You might try requesting a shared connection. At least then you wouldn't
kick the other person off. The user would see that someone else is connected
and come back later. Of course, there may be a temporary fight over the
mouse pointer. So tell you folks not to to get upset if the mouse "moves on
its own" for a couple of seconds.

Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
(505)844-5753 
-- 
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don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson



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Sent: May 09, 2001 6:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Vnc Regestry settings


Hello,

 I am working on getting VNC running in our corporation the only
problems we are having are if more than one person connects the first
person is cut off. Well I found that you can add the ConnectPriority and
set the settingh to 2 so that once one person is signed in no one else can.
My problem is I had to had that in the local Machine under software and ORL
there was no default setting there so I was able to add this to the
settings I had since rebooted the server and no luck it still kicks off the
first person. Anyone no what I am doing wrong



Thank you
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Enterprise Messaging Team
Microsoft Certified Professional Win2K
A+ Certified
419-482-2403
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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Mark Miksis

John,

Thanks for your response.  I am having the same thoughts about my LAN, but
there just aren't that many variables.  There are 3 PCs (one linux, two
Win98) connected to a 10/100 hub.  The slowdown still occurs even when I
separate this segment from anything else.  

I guess I'll run some tests with ftp and see what kind of throughput I'm
really getting.  I just don't understand why it's so intermittent...

-Original Message-
From: John Harris, MOSMWNMTK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vnc intermittently slow


This sounds more like a network issue, even though you say it's a small
LAN.  What is the configuration of  your LAN?

jrh
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From: "Mark Miksis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:12 PM
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


> I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything
is
> great and the speed is near real-time.
>
> However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
> killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the
server
> (running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
> have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
> running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.
>
> After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
> changing anything.  What could I be missing???
>
> Mark
> vnc 3.3.3r2
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CORBA-enabled VNC for a Classroom

2001-05-09 Thread Brent Baccala

Hi -

I've patched the 3.3.3r2 UNIX Xvnc server to link against the ORBit
CORBA library and export a CORBA management interface.  Here's the IDL:

interface VNC {
  void enableClientKeyboard(in string ipaddr);
  void disableClientKeyboard(in string ipaddr);
  void enableClientPointer(in string ipaddr);
  void disableClientPointer(in string ipaddr);
  void disconnectClient(in string ipaddr);
  void disconnectAllClients();
};

As you can see, it permits client keyboards and pointers to be
individually enabled or disabled by IP address.  I've also added a
server option "-foreignersdisabled" to start foreign (non-localhost)
clients with keyboard and pointer disabled.  I use this in a class I
teach to have the students start all their VNCs disabled.  Then I
connect from localhost as the one enabled client and use a Perl script
to turn their keyboards on and off.  I've attached both the patch and a
simple Perl script to manipulate the CORBA interface.

I guess what I'd like to see next (I don't know if I'll do this myself)
is to have two different passwords, one to attached enabled, one to
attach disabled; the second one possibly NULL.  This should probably
done with a real config file for the server.

Comments?

-- 
-bwb

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#!/usr/bin/perl -w
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# Simple Perl script to send commands to a CORBA-enabled VNC server
#
# May 2001, by Brent Baccala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Uses Owen Taylor's CORBA::ORBit module (available from CPAN)
#
# The script will use its own name as the function to invoke on the server,
# either {enable/disable}Client{Keyboard/Pointer} or disconnectClient
#
# Looks for the CORBA address (IOR) of the VNC server in a file called
# /tmp/.X{0,1}.vnc - that's where the VNC server writes it.  Also looks
# for the vnc IDL file in the current directory.
#

use strict;

use CORBA::ORBit idl => [ qw(vnc.idl) ];


my $progname = $0;
$progname =~ s!.*/!!;

$#ARGV == 0 or die "Usage: $progname IPADDR\n";

my $orb = CORBA::ORB_init("orbit-local-orb");

open IOR, "/tmp/.X0.ior"
or open IOR, "/tmp/.X1.ior"
or die "Couldn't open IOR file\n";
my $ior = ;
close IOR;

my $vnc = $orb->string_to_object($ior);

$vnc->$progname($ARGV[0]);
//
// CORBA interface for VNC
//

interface VNC {
  void enableClientKeyboard(in string ipaddr);
  void disableClientKeyboard(in string ipaddr);
  void enableClientPointer(in string ipaddr);
  void disableClientPointer(in string ipaddr);
  void disconnectClient(in string ipaddr);
  void disconnectAllClients();
};
diff -cr vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/cf/vnc.def vnc_unixsrc.new/Xvnc/config/cf/vnc.def
*** vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/cf/vnc.def  Thu Oct 26 07:31:46 2000
--- vnc_unixsrc.new/Xvnc/config/cf/vnc.def  Fri May  4 01:02:43 2001
***
*** 103,108 
--- 103,110 
  #define BuildServersOnly  YES
  #define BuildServer   YES
  
+ #define UseORBIT  YES
+ 
  #define XVendorString "AT&T Laboratories Cambridge"
  #define XVendorRelease3332
  #define XvncRelease   "3r2"
diff -cr vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/cf/vnclibs.def 
vnc_unixsrc.new/Xvnc/config/cf/vnclibs.def
*** vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/cf/vnclibs.def  Tue May 19 11:41:58 1998
--- vnc_unixsrc.new/Xvnc/config/cf/vnclibs.def  Fri May  4 01:05:34 2001
***
*** 7,9 
--- 7,14 
  
  VNCLIBS = $(TOP)/../libvncauth/libvncauth.a
  VNCCPPFLAGS = -I$(TOP)/../include
+ 
+ #ifdef UseORBIT
+ VNCLIBS += -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lnsl -lm
+ VNCCPPFLAGS += -I/usr/lib/glib/include -DUseORBIT
+ #endif
diff -cr vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc/Imakefile 
vnc_unixsrc.new/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc/Imakefile
*** vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc/Imakefile  Thu Mar  9 10:43:36 2000
--- vnc_unixsrc.new/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc/Imakefile  Fri May  4 21:11:30 
2001
***
*** 14,19 
--- 14,24 
   -I../../cfb -I../../mfb -I../../mi -I../../include -I../../os \
   $(VNCCPPFLAGS)
  
+ #ifdef UseORBIT
+ SRCS += vnc.idl
+ OBJS += vnc-common.o vnc-skels.o
+ #endif
+ 
  DEFINES = ServerOSDefines
  
  all:: $(OBJS)
***
*** 21,25 
--- 26,52 
  NormalLibraryObjectRule()
  NormalLibraryTarget(vnc,$(OBJS))
  SpecialCObjectRule(init,$(ICONFIGFILES),-DXVNCRELEASE=\"XvncRelease\")
+ 
+ #ifdef UseORBIT
+ 
+ # rules for ORBit IDL files
+ 
+ ORBIT_IDL = /usr/bin/orbit-idl
+ 
+ vnc-stubs.c : vnc.idl
+   $(ORBIT_IDL) vnc.idl
+ 
+ vnc-common.c : vnc.idl
+   $(ORBIT_IDL) vnc.idl
+ 
+ vnc-skels.c : vnc.idl
+   $(ORBIT_IDL) vnc.idl
+ 
+ vnc.h : vnc.idl
+   $(

RE: VNC Viewer

2001-05-09 Thread Brett J. Goldstein

That is valuable info.  Another question though...Is one constrained by the
limitations of the alpha characters in the index - thus 26 entries?

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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VNC Viewer


Hi Brett,

Assuming you are using Windoz

The history of the VNC Viewer is stored in the registry :

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ORL\VNCviewer\MRU

A list of your addresses will be there. You just have to
remember to list each entry in the "index" string.

The first letter shown in your index value will be the
address that it shows when you run the VNC Viewer prog.

Eg:

"index"="ABC"
"A"="my-pc"
"B"="friends-pc"
"C"="NT-Server-PC"

So, you could just make up a list then add it to the registry :)

Regards,
Daniel

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Goldstein
Sent: 08 May 2001 19:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VNC Viewer


Does anyone know where the IP address history is stored for the VNC Viewer.
I would like to preconfigure a list of addresses for the drop down box.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Brett
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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Schonborg, Thomas

That's a pretty heavy question. There are only several hundred products to
choose from out there. I'll pass along info I have reguarding packages the
I'm familiar with.

If you want free there is NetSaint. It runs on Linux and it very versatile
however configuring it is still labor intensive and if you're not
comforatble with Linux you may spend alot of time and not get much from it.
Available from SourceForge at http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/

There is also the open network management system that is available for free.
I don't know anything about it but their web site is http://www.opennms.org
. This software is free and most likely runs on Linux and/or Unix.

We use a product call WhatsUp Gold made by IPSwitch. I find it effective in
mopnitoring netowrk devices and port availablity. It has a nice web
interface and isn't too terribly expensive. I runs on WinNT. I don't think
it is as effective monitoring servers and applications as some other
products. Last I checked approx $700.00, this may have changed so don't
quote me on that. http://ipswitch.com

We also use a product call SiteScope made by Freshwater software out of
Boulder, CO. http://www.freshwater.com I administer this product and I'm
VERY familiar with it. It runs on Win NT or Sun Solaris 2.6. The NT install
is a breeze. The Solaris install is much more involved as you need to add a
number of other packages to Solaris first, but the actual SiteScope install
script has worked beautifully for me. It has a very simple web interface and
I was able to figure out how to use it and start creating monitors in about
45 minutes. Cost varies depending upon how many monitors you need to setup
but the pricing info is available on their web site. You can download a free
10 day trial of the software if you like. Personal opinion, SiteScope is
easier to configure and has a nicer interface than WhatsUp Gold. SiteScope
really excells at monitoring servers, applications, and websites. It does
have the ability to monitor network devices and can perform SNMP gets but
WhatsUp may be stronger in this area.

When I was still on active duty and stationed at the Air Force Research Lab
we had a producted call NetHealth made by Concord. It ran on a Solaris
workstation. I don't know what other platforms it runs on. It think this
provided great reports concerning network devices and was very useful for
trend analysis but it provided no realtime alerts if a device went down. I
also, at the time, didn't have a web interface although I strongly suspect
this has changed by now.

At the Air Force Research Lab I also administered Spectrum made by
Cabletron. This is a very heavy duty network monitoring tool similiar in
function to HP Openview. Very expensive, ran on Solaris, and quite time
consuming. Just as HP Openview is. This is probably over kill for your
organization.

If you have any other questions you can e-mail me directly at
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Hope this info has been useful.

Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
(505)844-5753 
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don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson



-Original Message-
From: Joe Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: May 09, 2001 6:52 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: vnc intermittently slow


As a follow-on to this problem, but a bit off the subject - 
We too are beginning to implement VNC within our IT shop.  We have all
Windows based computers.
Win 95 on the desktops (soon to be Win2000 Pro) and Windows NT 4.0sp3
servers.
I'm am interested in monitoring network traffic - does anyone have a
utility/tool/method they recommend (preferrably a free one!).
I need something to quickly isolate network problems or rule out/pinpoint
the network as a possible problem - troubleshooting... basically.  Any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Campbell
Express-1, Inc.
429 Post Road 
Buchanan, Michigan 49107

-Original Message-
From: Mark Miksis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything is
great and the speed is near real-time.

However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  

After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
changing anything.  What could I be missing???

Mark
vnc 3.3.3r2
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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Schonborg, Thomas

Could be a flaky NIC.

Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
(505)844-5753 
-- 
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don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson



-Original Message-
From: Mark Miksis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: May 09, 2001 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: vnc intermittently slow


John,

Thanks for your response.  I am having the same thoughts about my LAN, but
there just aren't that many variables.  There are 3 PCs (one linux, two
Win98) connected to a 10/100 hub.  The slowdown still occurs even when I
separate this segment from anything else.  

I guess I'll run some tests with ftp and see what kind of throughput I'm
really getting.  I just don't understand why it's so intermittent...

-Original Message-
From: John Harris, MOSMWNMTK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vnc intermittently slow


This sounds more like a network issue, even though you say it's a small
LAN.  What is the configuration of  your LAN?

jrh
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:12 PM
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


> I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything
is
> great and the speed is near real-time.
>
> However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
> killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the
server
> (running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
> have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
> running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.
>
> After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
> changing anything.  What could I be missing???
>
> Mark
> vnc 3.3.3r2
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Re: Is any Online Demo Using VNC Available ?

2001-05-09 Thread Psyon

www.workspot.com

girish sonawane wrote:

> Is there any online demo using VNC available on the
> internet ?
>
> Thanks,
> Girish
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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Schonborg, Thomas

I almost forgot!

MRTG - Multi Router Traffic Grapher. Sandia Labs uses this too. It's free,
runs on many different platforms. Provides a web interface with nice graphs
and is incredible customizeable. You can find it at
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html


Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
(505)844-5753 
-- 
There are two major products that come out of Berkley: LSD and Unix. We
don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson



-Original Message-
From: Joe Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: May 09, 2001 6:52 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: vnc intermittently slow


As a follow-on to this problem, but a bit off the subject - 
We too are beginning to implement VNC within our IT shop.  We have all
Windows based computers.
Win 95 on the desktops (soon to be Win2000 Pro) and Windows NT 4.0sp3
servers.
I'm am interested in monitoring network traffic - does anyone have a
utility/tool/method they recommend (preferrably a free one!).
I need something to quickly isolate network problems or rule out/pinpoint
the network as a possible problem - troubleshooting... basically.  Any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Campbell
Express-1, Inc.
429 Post Road 
Buchanan, Michigan 49107

-Original Message-
From: Mark Miksis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything is
great and the speed is near real-time.

However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  

After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
changing anything.  What could I be missing???

Mark
vnc 3.3.3r2
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RE: Dr. Watson error on Win NT 4.0 SP 6

2001-05-09 Thread Warren Beauchamp

As Wez noted, WinVNC3.3.3R9 seems to have a problem
with multiple processor WinNT 4.0 server running SP6a,
etc. I have confirmed this. It blows up on
Multiprocessor WinNT 4.0, but works fine on single
processor boxes with similar configurations.
WinVNC3.3.3R7 works fine on either server. 

I will try setting the use_DeferredUpdates key to zero
as Wez mentioned. 

Thanks,

-Warren Beauchamp

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VNC 3.3.3

2001-05-09 Thread Howlett, Simon (NESL-IT)

Hi, 

We are running this on an entirely NT network and have added :

RemoveWallpaper = REG_DWORD 0x

to the registry to prevent the users wallpaper from being removed after a
connection is established.

Our problem is that we have custom wallpapers for certain sections and
although the wallpaper is not removed, once the session is disconnected the
original NT Workstation wallpaper appears instead of the custom one. (this
is until the users logs off and back on)

Any suggestions ?

Simon Howlett
Northern Electric & Gas
NT Server Team





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Re: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Mac Reiter

>I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything is
>great and the speed is near real-time.
>
>However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
>killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
>(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
>have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
>running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  
>
>After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
>changing anything.  What could I be missing???


I would like to take this chance to mention something very similar that I
have seen when I started working with the viewer code on PocketPC's (CE
3.0), trying to accelerate it to a more usable level.  I have put in video
acceleration code and other modifications, and it is now quite fast enough
WHEN IT WORKS NORMALLY.  But sometimes, it just gets ridiculously slow.  I
have a Linux box (RH7.0), Gnome, 240x320 desktop, depth/visual doesn't
matter.  It seems to be most noticeable when moving through the "Start"
menu from the taskbar (OK, I'm sure that's not what Gnome calls it, but
that what it looks like).  Usually, it is fine, and then, out of the blue,
it starts drawing so slowly that you can SEE each individual scanline of
the update region being drawn.

This is on a network that consists of two machines - the server and the
viewer.  There are *NO* collisions.  Network speed in other applications is
fine.  Using something like forwarded X sessions from one Linux box to
another through the NIC in the Linux box (with or without OpenSSH X
forwarding) never exhibits this problem.  Data transfers of large files
(10+ MB) between the Linux box and CE unit occur at full speed, without
drops.  The exact same behavior (everything I've mentioned so far, except
for the X session stuff) occurs whether my network link is a 10Mb/s link or
a 115200baud (.1Mb/s) PPP link.  When the slow down occurs, it is just as
bad on the 10Mb/s link as it is on the .1Mb/s link.

I think it is some kind of multithreading resource contention in the viewer.

I say this for a variety of reasons:

1. Windows has some major problems with thread scheduling.  Sometimes
threads are arbitrarily boosted in priority, sometimes they are dropped.
Thread priorities in the presence of hardware interrupts gets even more
interesting, and I don't even want to start on the subject of Interrupt
Service Threads vs. Interrupt Service Routines...

2. I have experienced major performance differences when I adjust the
relative thread priorities of the drawing thread and the other threads.  I
did this by adjusting the priority of the drawing thread, because that was
the one I was most interested in (because of video acceleration
modifications).  I would be very interested if someone would be willing to
drop me an architectural overview of the viewer so I could see the thread
interactions more clearly.  My work so far has been examining the bark of
the trees, which makes it extremely difficult to form a coherent picture of
the forest...

3. In my case, the slowdown only occurs for less than a minute.  Comparing
this to the hours or days of slowdown in the above case suggests to me a
lockstepping problem.  If you think of the thread synchronization
operations occurring at some frequency, then when you put the two (or more)
frequencies (threads) together, you will get a beat frequency
(lockstepping).  The nature and duration of the "beat" will depend on the
CPU speed, relative cost of executing the code in the various threads,
local code vs. OS system calls, and a ridiculous number of other
parameters.  It is entirely possible that on "almost all" machines, these
parameters work out such that the "beat" is infrequent and of very short
duration, making it easily misinterpretable as a networking hiccup or
temporary congestion.  It also makes it excruciatingly difficult to debug -
after all, if it has to run for hours to start doing it, how can you be
sure that you fixed it?  You can't put a breakpoint on the code that only
fires when the beat occurs without already knowing what the cause of the
beat is...  This is one of the reasons I would like to see an effor made to
rewrite the viewer without multithreading (but I get ahead of myself...)

4. I know that, at least in CE, the GDI, the serial driver, and the
networking stack have a tendency to hose each other.  This was causing some
overall speed issues originally, which have been resolved, but the acute
slowdown that I have described has persisted through every change I have made.

5. My thesis work was on distributed parallel computing, with a focus on
harnessing idle CPU cycles.  As such, I have a first-hand and relatively
painful awareness of Windows mishandling of thread priorities.

I would like to point out that I do not consider this a "fault" of the
viewer.  I strongly suspect that the problem is in Windows 

VNC For Netware

2001-05-09 Thread Roger Pray

Is there a copy of the VNC software that will run on a Novell Netware
4.xx/5 server?
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RE: VNC 3.3.3

2001-05-09 Thread Steve Palocz

Go back to version 3.3.3r7, as wallpaper removal hasn't been implemented
yet. I have the same problem, the only work around I found was to use the
Java client through a browser and click the disconnect button.

Steve

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Hi,

We are running this on an entirely NT network and have added :

RemoveWallpaper = REG_DWORD 0x

to the registry to prevent the users wallpaper from being removed after a
connection is established.

Our problem is that we have custom wallpapers for certain sections and
although the wallpaper is not removed, once the session is disconnected the
original NT Workstation wallpaper appears instead of the custom one. (this
is until the users logs off and back on)

Any suggestions ?

Simon Howlett
Northern Electric & Gas
NT Server Team






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VNC

2001-05-09 Thread Wray, Barry A

I am running VNC on a Win98 machine in host mode.  When I disconnect the
listener daemon has to be reset.  Can anyone tell me why?

Barry A. Wray
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security

2001-05-09 Thread Tony Do

Hi
Is there a registry setting that can hide the VNC icon when the service is 
running?

I'm trying to prevent users from snooping around and changing the settings.
Is there a security setting that prevents users from accessing the VNC 
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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Joe Campbell

Someone just directed me to a Feb 26,2001 issue of Network World which has
an article in it:

"The price is right:  10 free network management tools"

They include:

Cricket, a more scalable version of MRTG
TCPNetView
NetSaint
Qcheck
Sysmon
VNC
Ping Scanner
Echo
Sam Spade
OpenNMS

I've got more than enough information to work with at the moment.   Sorry to
clutter the VNC list with 
networking matters.   If I discover anything that pertains to VNC
performance or operation, I'll let the list know.
Thanks for the replies...


Joe Campbell
Express-1, Inc.
(616) 695-2700
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Subject: RE: vnc intermittently slow


I almost forgot!

MRTG - Multi Router Traffic Grapher. Sandia Labs uses this too. It's free,
runs on many different platforms. Provides a web interface with nice graphs
and is incredible customizeable. You can find it at
http://mrtg.hdl.com/mrtg.html


Tom Schonborg 
JPSS Inc. - Sandia National Laboratories Contractor 
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Subject: RE: vnc intermittently slow


As a follow-on to this problem, but a bit off the subject - 
We too are beginning to implement VNC within our IT shop.  We have all
Windows based computers.
Win 95 on the desktops (soon to be Win2000 Pro) and Windows NT 4.0sp3
servers.
I'm am interested in monitoring network traffic - does anyone have a
utility/tool/method they recommend (preferrably a free one!).
I need something to quickly isolate network problems or rule out/pinpoint
the network as a possible problem - troubleshooting... basically.  Any
advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Campbell
Express-1, Inc.
429 Post Road 
Buchanan, Michigan 49107

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From: Mark Miksis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vnc intermittently slow


I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything is
great and the speed is near real-time.

However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  

After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
changing anything.  What could I be missing???

Mark
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French keybord and "Tilda" pb under windows

2001-05-09 Thread Matthieu Rouget

Hi,

I am using a french keybord, Linux VNC server and the native win2000 client.

I can't find how to type the tilda '~'.

'~' is usually available by typing Ctrl+Alt+i or AltGr+i, but when I type
this under WinVNC, it does nothing.

I didn't find any answer in the FAQ or the mailing-list archive.

Thanks
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RE: security

2001-05-09 Thread Zalman Margareten

According to the Documentation it can only be done by modifying the source
code. I found that in win2k it will work by removing the reference under the
"run" hive in Microsoft current control.

Z

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: security


Hi
Is there a registry setting that can hide the VNC icon when the service is 
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Re: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Mark Miksis

Mac,

This certainly sounds like the same problem, except in my case the slowness occurs 
MOST of the time. I can confirm that it is independant of color depth and display size 
and you description of actually seeing it draw each line is exactly what I'm seeing. 

I don't know anything about multithreaded programming, but I'm wondering if viewing 
from a web browser would be any different. I'll try this tonight. Since in my case, 
the problem occurs most of the time, please let me know if you can think of any other 
useful tests I can perform. 


-Original Message-
From: "Mac Reiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:48:24 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: vnc intermittently slow

>I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything is
>great and the speed is near real-time.
>
>However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
>killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
>(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
>have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
>running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  
>
>After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
>changing anything.  What could I be missing???


I would like to take this chance to mention something very similar that I
have seen when I started working with the viewer code on PocketPC's (CE
3.0), trying to accelerate it to a more usable level.  I have put in video
acceleration code and other modifications, and it is now quite fast enough
WHEN IT WORKS NORMALLY.  But sometimes, it just gets ridiculously slow.  I
have a Linux box (RH7.0), Gnome, 240x320 desktop, depth/visual doesn't
matter.  It seems to be most noticeable when moving through the "Start"
menu from the taskbar (OK, I'm sure that's not what Gnome calls it, but
that what it looks like).  Usually, it is fine, and then, out of the blue,
it starts drawing so slowly that you can SEE each individual scanline of
the update region being drawn.

This is on a network that consists of two machines - the server and the
viewer.  There are *NO* collisions.  Network speed in other applications is
fine.  Using something like forwarded X sessions from one Linux box to
another through the NIC in the Linux box (with or without OpenSSH X
forwarding) never exhibits this problem.  Data transfers of large files
(10+ MB) between the Linux box and CE unit occur at full speed, without
drops.  The exact same behavior (everything I've mentioned so far, except
for the X session stuff) occurs whether my network link is a 10Mb/s link or
a 115200baud (.1Mb/s) PPP link.  When the slow down occurs, it is just as
bad on the 10Mb/s link as it is on the .1Mb/s link.

I think it is some kind of multithreading resource contention in the viewer.

I say this for a variety of reasons:

1. Windows has some major problems with thread scheduling.  Sometimes
threads are arbitrarily boosted in priority, sometimes they are dropped.
Thread priorities in the presence of hardware interrupts gets even more
interesting, and I don't even want to start on the subject of Interrupt
Service Threads vs. Interrupt Service Routines...

2. I have experienced major performance differences when I adjust the
relative thread priorities of the drawing thread and the other threads.  I
did this by adjusting the priority of the drawing thread, because that was
the one I was most interested in (because of video acceleration
modifications).  I would be very interested if someone would be willing to
drop me an architectural overview of the viewer so I could see the thread
interactions more clearly.  My work so far has been examining the bark of
the trees, which makes it extremely difficult to form a coherent picture of
the forest...

3. In my case, the slowdown only occurs for less than a minute.  Comparing
this to the hours or days of slowdown in the above case suggests to me a
lockstepping problem.  If you think of the thread synchronization
operations occurring at some frequency, then when you put the two (or more)
frequencies (threads) together, you will get a beat frequency
(lockstepping).  The nature and duration of the "beat" will depend on the
CPU speed, relative cost of executing the code in the various threads,
local code vs. OS system calls, and a ridiculous number of other
parameters.  It is entirely possible that on "almost all" machines, these
parameters work out such that the "beat" is infrequent and of very short
duration, making it easily misinterpretable as a networking hiccup or
temporary congestion.  It also makes it excruciatingly difficult to debug -
after all, if it has to run for hours to start doing it, how can you be
sure that you fixed it?  You can't put a breakpoint on the code that only
fires when the beat occurs without already knowing what the cause of the
beat is...  This is one of the reasons I would like to see an effor ma

Re: Dr. Watson error on Win NT 4.0 SP 6

2001-05-09 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

> As Wez noted, WinVNC3.3.3R9 seems to have a problem
> with multiple processor WinNT 4.0 server running SP6a,
> etc. I have confirmed this. It blows up on
> Multiprocessor WinNT 4.0, but works fine on single
> processor boxes with similar configurations.
> WinVNC3.3.3R7 works fine on either server.

I've never said that WinVNC 3.3.3R9 has problems with multiprocessor
machines.  It certainly shouldn't.  Under what circumstances have you had it
crash on multiprocessors?

Cheers,

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Re: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread John Harris, MOSMWNMTK

Make sure it's not a half/full duplex issue.  If your NICs are
auto negotiating, try locking them down

jrh
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: vnc intermittently slow


> John,
>
> Thanks for your response.  I am having the same thoughts about my LAN, but
> there just aren't that many variables.  There are 3 PCs (one linux, two
> Win98) connected to a 10/100 hub.  The slowdown still occurs even when I
> separate this segment from anything else.
>
> I guess I'll run some tests with ftp and see what kind of throughput I'm
> really getting.  I just don't understand why it's so intermittent...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Harris, MOSMWNMTK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: vnc intermittently slow
>
>
> This sounds more like a network issue, even though you say it's a small
> LAN.  What is the configuration of  your LAN?
>
> jrh
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Miksis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:12 PM
> Subject: vnc intermittently slow
>
>
> > I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working,
everything
> is
> > great and the speed is near real-time.
> >
> > However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed
by
> > killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the
> server
> > (running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and
I
> > have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something
suddenly
> > running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.
> >
> > After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
> > changing anything.  What could I be missing???
> >
> > Mark
> > vnc 3.3.3r2
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Re: redhat 7.1 vnc issue

2001-05-09 Thread Mike R. Cannon

The windows that were exiting were all rxvt terminal windows.  After
reproducing the problem on an exact machine, all terminal were changed
to xterm.  The problem has gone away, while using the xterm terminal.

thank you for your time in this matter.


"Mike R. Cannon" wrote:
> 
> This issue occurred once I installed Redhat 7.1.
> 
> I am running redhat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.3.  Pretty stock after that.
> 
> Issue:
> Various X windows will exit randomly after vncviewer is executed and
> connected to a vncserver.
> 
> Troubleshooting:
> Removed all vnc rpms that shipped with redhat 7.1.
> I have dnloaded the 3.3.3r2 both binary and source, and they have the
> same random windows exiting problem.
> 
> thank you for your time in this matter.
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RE: security

2001-05-09 Thread Tony Do

Thanks I will look into that.

At 12:18 PM 2001-05-09 -0400, you wrote:
>According to the Documentation it can only be done by modifying the source
>code. I found that in win2k it will work by removing the reference under the
>"run" hive in Microsoft current control.
>
>Z
>
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>Subject: security
>
>
>Hi
>Is there a registry setting that can hide the VNC icon when the service is
>running?
>
>I'm trying to prevent users from snooping around and changing the settings.
>Is there a security setting that prevents users from accessing the VNC
>properties?
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current display

2001-05-09 Thread Scott Dunn

Hi All,

I have finally figured out how to get the viewers to work both ways.  But I'm
having a little problem.  First a little background:

When I use Linux to view a windows desktop on Win2k, I can see a simultaneous
response from the windows machine.  Anything I move from the viewer moves on
the Windows desktop.

Now lets reverse it.  If I run the server on the LInux machine, I can connect
and see a great drawing of the desktop.  But what happens on the viewer is not
what happens on the Linux screen.

I've tried to find out what the current display is and here is what I've found
so far:  when server is run for the first time, it assigns display 1 by
default.  And sure enough, there's a log file for it.  So to be sure there is
no mixup of the displays, I kill 1 and try to run the server on display zero. 
But the system returns the message that display zero is already running.  Bu
there's no log file for it.

If I run Kmail on the server after I've used it from the viewer, Kmail will not
start.  If I log out, log in and start Kmail again, it works fine.

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to make sure that the server is using the
current display?


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Re: French keybord and "Tilda" pb under windows

2001-05-09 Thread Francis VIVAT

Same for me.

I use the space bar with shift for it :

xmodmap -e "keysym space = space asciitilde"

If someone solve this issue, lot of froggies will be happy :-)

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Subject: French keybord and "Tilda" pb under windows


> Hi,
> 
> I am using a french keybord, Linux VNC server and the native win2000 client.
> 
> I can't find how to type the tilda '~'.
> 
> '~' is usually available by typing Ctrl+Alt+i or AltGr+i, but when I type
> this under WinVNC, it does nothing.
> 
> I didn't find any answer in the FAQ or the mailing-list archive.
> 
> Thanks
> Matt
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Re: current display

2001-05-09 Thread Mac Reiter

>Now lets reverse it.  If I run the server on the LInux machine, I can connect
>and see a great drawing of the desktop.  But what happens on the viewer is
not
>what happens on the Linux screen.

Each Linux vnc viewer is its own desktop, by design.  To simulate the way
the WinVNC server works, look on the VNC Contrib page for x0rfbserver.
That is a Linux/UNIX Xvnc that pulls its image from an already existing X
server (ie, the one you get at the local monitor, which is display 0)

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] vncPatches68k for alpha 5 version for ChromiVNC

2001-05-09 Thread a . umpleby

>>I suspect these features need a lot more tuning based on processor type
>>(How's your 5300 Jonathan...?)
>
> In my "internal" version (due to become alpha 6 after some time), I have
> introduced another feature which should reduce the "blocking" behaviour.
> ...

Sounds good.

> This makes the Quadra noticeably quicker...

Are you using the no-buffering version of vncPatches68k for this?
Just out of interest, can you try it with the other versions, and let me
know how it compares?


Has anyone else got any comparisons, on other machines, of the different
versions of vncPatches68k - inparticular, comparing the standard version
(vncPatches68k-a5) with no-buffering version (vncPatches68k-a5nobuffer)?

I suspect that recent G3/G4s will see virtually no difference (though I
would like confirmation of that - I'm hoping I can try it this weekend),
so I'm mainly interested in comparisons from older Macs (original PCI
Macs like 7500/8500/9500/7600/8600/9600 and Performas like 5300/5400 and 
6300/6400 etc. also, other 603-based laptops such as 1400/2400/3400
could provide useful information).

Thanks!

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WinVNC missing registry settings?

2001-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Travis

Hello,

I may be missing something obvious, but in using WinVNC, I cannot find in
the registry some of the advanced settings mentioned in the documentation
like "AuthHosts" and "AllowLoopback". I've tried adding them manually, but
they don't seem to have any effect. I've carefully looked at the
documentation and am stuck. Any suggestions are appreciated.

I'm running Windows 98, WinVNC 3.3.3

Thanks

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Single window control on Mac and Linux

2001-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Travis

Hello,

I've been playing with the single window control version of WinVNC (allowing
remote control of a single application or Window instead of the entire
desktop). Has anyone tried porting this to the Mac and to Linux?

Thanks,

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] vncPatches68k for alpha 5 version for ChromiVNC

2001-05-09 Thread Jonathan Morton

>> This makes the Quadra noticeably quicker...
>
>Are you using the no-buffering version of vncPatches68k for this?
>Just out of interest, can you try it with the other versions, and let me
>know how it compares?

Actually, I'm still using the alpha-3 vncPatches68k on the Quadra, and the
regular vncPatches on all the PPC machines.  I'll install the a5-nobuffer
on the Quadra sometime and see how it goes.

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Re: security

2001-05-09 Thread Jonathan Morton

>Is there a security setting that prevents users from accessing the VNC
>properties?

Please search the FAQ and archives for the "AllowProperties" registry
setting.  This does not involve hiding the icon, it merely disables the
menu.  If you *really* need to hide the icon, install TridiaVNC.

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Win95 locks up after login

2001-05-09 Thread Julius Thyssen

Recently I've been trying to remotely help a friend with her PC,
she's using Windows 95 OSR2.

There's NO icon in the tray on her taskbar, even though
the VNC server is running. This is not important, but
nonetheless, it might indicate what's wrong on her machine,
and might help with the deadly problem this is all about:

Everytime I log in, I see her screen and receive a few seconds,
but then her machine locks up. She can't do anything and needs
to do a hard reboot! Also, I get disconnected everytime.
The longest view-session I have had took about 5 seconds.
It seems that each time I'm logged in and when one of us
move her mouse, her Windows 95 locks up completely.

She does not have any other situations/software that locks up her Win95.
She's installed the latest release ( WinVNC.exe compiled 16/03 ),
and I'm using 2 versions of vncviewer, in FreeBSD and in Win98SE,
both have the exact same result on her end of the line...
She's got a coax-cable LAN internet connection, Winsock 2 installed
and her connection is working fine otherwise.

Any insight on how she might prevent this from happening?
Are there any registry settings I could send her, so that
she can enter a .reg and this might not happen anymore?

As long as I can't get in properly and can't take a good look
at her machine, problems won't be over, since I can't do much...
For this I really need to get in first! ( the chicken-egg issue ;)

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Re: Single window control on Mac and Linux

2001-05-09 Thread Jonathan Morton

>I've been playing with the single window control version of WinVNC (allowing
>remote control of a single application or Window instead of the entire
>desktop). Has anyone tried porting this to the Mac and to Linux?

On Linux, it's easy - just start the application on Xvnc without a window
manager.  Virtually all X11 applications accept the -geometry switch which
will let you rescale it to full screen, otherwise you just make Xvnc the
same size as the application window.

On the Mac, it's *much* harder.  I can't offhand think of a good way to do
it, particularly as the menu bar would have to remain available to leave a
sensible UI.  In any case, you'd still have to dedicate the Mac to it, so
why not just install one of the "Mac protection systems" or even Multiple
Users, and secure the machine that way?  The one caveat I can think of is
that ChromiVNC is not tested with Multiple Users.

For MacOS X you can use the Xvnc trick as above (for an X11 app) or you're
back in the MacOS situation.  I really don't know enough about OS X to
comment on whether it's possible to do it "on screen" with an Aqua app.

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Re: current display

2001-05-09 Thread Scott Dunn

Yup.  That's what I want.  Thanks for the tip.  Should I compile the source for
RedHat 7 or just get the binary for 6.2?

On Wed, 09 May 2001, you wrote:
> >Now lets reverse it.  If I run the server on the LInux machine, I can connect
> >and see a great drawing of the desktop.  But what happens on the viewer is
> not
> >what happens on the Linux screen.
> 
> Each Linux vnc viewer is its own desktop, by design.  To simulate the way
> the WinVNC server works, look on the VNC Contrib page for x0rfbserver.
> That is a Linux/UNIX Xvnc that pulls its image from an already existing X
> server (ie, the one you get at the local monitor, which is display 0)
> 
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RE: vnc intermittently slow

2001-05-09 Thread Mark Miksis

I have confirmed that this problem does not exhibit itself (at least not
yet) when using the java browser viewer.  This seems to support Mac's
theory...

Any other thoughts?

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>I am running Xvnc over a small 10/100 LAN.  When it's working, everything
is
>great and the speed is near real-time.
>
>However, intermittently it just gets REALLY slow.  This cannot be fixed by
>killing and restarting either the client (running on Windows) or the server
>(running on RH Linux).  Also, this is a very small LAN (3 machines) and I
>have checked everything I can to eliminate any cases of something suddenly
>running that hogs either the CPU cycles or the LAN bandwidth.  
>
>After some time (hours or days) it just resumes running fast without
>changing anything.  What could I be missing???


I would like to take this chance to mention something very similar that I
have seen when I started working with the viewer code on PocketPC's (CE
3.0), trying to accelerate it to a more usable level.  I have put in video
acceleration code and other modifications, and it is now quite fast enough
WHEN IT WORKS NORMALLY.  But sometimes, it just gets ridiculously slow.  I
have a Linux box (RH7.0), Gnome, 240x320 desktop, depth/visual doesn't
matter.  It seems to be most noticeable when moving through the "Start"
menu from the taskbar (OK, I'm sure that's not what Gnome calls it, but
that what it looks like).  Usually, it is fine, and then, out of the blue,
it starts drawing so slowly that you can SEE each individual scanline of
the update region being drawn.

This is on a network that consists of two machines - the server and the
viewer.  There are *NO* collisions.  Network speed in other applications is
fine.  Using something like forwarded X sessions from one Linux box to
another through the NIC in the Linux box (with or without OpenSSH X
forwarding) never exhibits this problem.  Data transfers of large files
(10+ MB) between the Linux box and CE unit occur at full speed, without
drops.  The exact same behavior (everything I've mentioned so far, except
for the X session stuff) occurs whether my network link is a 10Mb/s link or
a 115200baud (.1Mb/s) PPP link.  When the slow down occurs, it is just as
bad on the 10Mb/s link as it is on the .1Mb/s link.

I think it is some kind of multithreading resource contention in the viewer.

I say this for a variety of reasons:

1. Windows has some major problems with thread scheduling.  Sometimes
threads are arbitrarily boosted in priority, sometimes they are dropped.
Thread priorities in the presence of hardware interrupts gets even more
interesting, and I don't even want to start on the subject of Interrupt
Service Threads vs. Interrupt Service Routines...

2. I have experienced major performance differences when I adjust the
relative thread priorities of the drawing thread and the other threads.  I
did this by adjusting the priority of the drawing thread, because that was
the one I was most interested in (because of video acceleration
modifications).  I would be very interested if someone would be willing to
drop me an architectural overview of the viewer so I could see the thread
interactions more clearly.  My work so far has been examining the bark of
the trees, which makes it extremely difficult to form a coherent picture of
the forest...

3. In my case, the slowdown only occurs for less than a minute.  Comparing
this to the hours or days of slowdown in the above case suggests to me a
lockstepping problem.  If you think of the thread synchronization
operations occurring at some frequency, then when you put the two (or more)
frequencies (threads) together, you will get a beat frequency
(lockstepping).  The nature and duration of the "beat" will depend on the
CPU speed, relative cost of executing the code in the various threads,
local code vs. OS system calls, and a ridiculous number of other
parameters.  It is entirely possible that on "almost all" machines, these
parameters work out such that the "beat" is infrequent and of very short
duration, making it easily misinterpretable as a networking hiccup or
temporary congestion.  It also makes it excruciatingly difficult to debug -
after all, if it has to run for hours to start doing it, how can you be
sure that you fixed it?  You can't put a breakpoint on the code that only
fires when the beat occurs without already knowing what the cause of the
beat is...  This is one of the reasons I would like to see an effor made to
rewrite the viewer without multithreading (but I get ahead of myself...)

4. I know that, at least in CE, the GDI, the serial driver, and the
networking stack have a tendency to hose each other.  This was causing some
overall speed issues originally, which have been resolved, but the acute
slowdown that I have described has persisted through every change I have
ma

New user - Mac to Mac?

2001-05-09 Thread Brynley

Hi all,

OK - I am checking out VNC and I have either got the wrong end of the 
stick entirely or I am really slow :-)

I have "VNCServer PPC" running on my iMac (OS9.04) with an IP address 
of 192.168.0.253 (subnet masks and all other things are correct). So 
I go to a Mac 6400 (OS9) with an IP address of 192.168.0.71 and it 
had the "Client" running and have logged on...but what am I supposed 
to be seeing on the 6400 ('viewer') - all I get is the menu bar 
andnothing else...

I am confused.

Any kind soul like to tell me (politlely) where I am going wrong?

Thanks for the bandwidth.

Brynley
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