Single window add-on

2001-04-11 Thread Craig

Hi

I have tried to apply Celine's add on so I can use VNC to display a single
window. her instructions are at
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/contrib/one-window.txt. i was unable to
get this patch to work and compile.

it dies at
HWND fenetre = m_client->m_buffer->GetHwndFn();

apparently GetHwndFn doesn't exist anymore

you can get a pre-compiled somewhat different version frmo
http://services.simac.be/vnc/single.html.  however this is R2, i was
wondering if anyone has gotten this add on to work with a version released
this year, or if anyone has got the WinVNC distributed frmo that site as
vncnew.zip to work either.

thanks
craig mcfetridge
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running VNC before login on 95/nt/2k

2001-04-11 Thread Mark Lehrer

Hello!  Is it possible to have VNC start right when windows starts, so
the remote user can log on through VNC?  This would make things a lot
more convenient since the user would never have to visit the actual
machine.

Thanks,
Mark
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sorry for the rtfm question

2001-04-11 Thread Mark Lehrer

I should have fully read the online documentation before posting my
previous inquiry.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot

2001-04-11 Thread Ralph E Wagner

Haven't been able to get PalmVNC to work yet, any
documentation anywhere?

Ralph
BSS

"David W. Chapman Jr." wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to decide what would be better for running a vnc client.  What's
> better for running the viewer, a palm pilot or a palm top computer running
> windows CE or regular windows 98?  any input would be appreciated because I
> have no info to go on right now.
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Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot

2001-04-11 Thread Mac Reiter

At 09:59 PM 4/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
>This is one palmtop I'm possibly looking at, seems to come with an 802.11b
>card.
>
>http://home.intermec.com/eprise/main/Intermec/Content/Products/Products_Show
>Detail?section=Products&Product=CMPTR6651&Category=CMPTR&Family=CMPTR2#

1. PalmOS / PalmVNC - viewer assumes you do not have memory to store entire
screen, so it requests partial screen updates whenever you scroll.  For
best results, you need to use special patches to support server side
scaling (a feature that I think would be nice to have in the main code
base, but I have odd needs...)

2. Windows CE units - every CE unit I have tested with, from ARM based
Jornada HPC Pros (640x480) to new generation PocketPC MIPS 209MHz
processors, is incredibly slow.  Think seconds/frame instead of
frames/second.  From personal programming experience, a large portion of
this problem is the pathetic graphics and memory I/O systems in CE units.
Attempting to do full Win32 level graphics routines over such slow hardware
is painful.  I am currently doing mods to accelerate the graphics on
PocketPCs (needs GAPI), but the solution is not of general use (I cannot
scroll around on a virtual desktop, so everything on the desktop must fit
on the screen of the PDA -- really only useful for UNIX based servers where
you can create a desktop of the desired resolution)

3. Any kind of real computer with real graphics and memory bus support will
be an order of magnitude or more faster than any device from category 1 or
2 that I have been able to work with.  Toshiba and Sony both make
exceedingly small Intel machines capable of running Windows 98/ME, Linux,
BeOS, or whatever feels good.  If you can afford them, you will get a much
more flexible solution that feels a *lot* better to use.  On the downside,
your battery life won't be as good, either...

My view from the trenches,
Mac

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Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot

2001-04-11 Thread Mac Reiter

At 06:42 AM 4/11/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Haven't been able to get PalmVNC to work yet, any
>documentation anywhere?

Are you using 1.4 or one of the earlier builds?  My only experience is with
the POSE Palm emulator.  When I tried to use it on a real Visor, all we had
was a USB connect, and I couldn't get a TCP/IP connection over that cradle.
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Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot

2001-04-11 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

I'm basically trying to decide between a palm 500m or a compaq ipac 3635 for
a few reasons which don't pertain to vnc.  But if I understand you correctly
it seems like the palmvnc might be a little faster or dealable if I decide
to use vnc.

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From: "Mac Reiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot


> At 09:59 PM 4/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >This is one palmtop I'm possibly looking at, seems to come with an
802.11b
> >card.
> >
>
>http://home.intermec.com/eprise/main/Intermec/Content/Products/Products_Sho
w
> >Detail?section=Products&Product=CMPTR6651&Category=CMPTR&Family=CMPTR2#
>
> 1. PalmOS / PalmVNC - viewer assumes you do not have memory to store
entire
> screen, so it requests partial screen updates whenever you scroll.  For
> best results, you need to use special patches to support server side
> scaling (a feature that I think would be nice to have in the main code
> base, but I have odd needs...)
>
> 2. Windows CE units - every CE unit I have tested with, from ARM based
> Jornada HPC Pros (640x480) to new generation PocketPC MIPS 209MHz
> processors, is incredibly slow.  Think seconds/frame instead of
> frames/second.  From personal programming experience, a large portion of
> this problem is the pathetic graphics and memory I/O systems in CE units.
> Attempting to do full Win32 level graphics routines over such slow
hardware
> is painful.  I am currently doing mods to accelerate the graphics on
> PocketPCs (needs GAPI), but the solution is not of general use (I cannot
> scroll around on a virtual desktop, so everything on the desktop must fit
> on the screen of the PDA -- really only useful for UNIX based servers
where
> you can create a desktop of the desired resolution)
>
> 3. Any kind of real computer with real graphics and memory bus support
will
> be an order of magnitude or more faster than any device from category 1 or
> 2 that I have been able to work with.  Toshiba and Sony both make
> exceedingly small Intel machines capable of running Windows 98/ME, Linux,
> BeOS, or whatever feels good.  If you can afford them, you will get a much
> more flexible solution that feels a *lot* better to use.  On the downside,
> your battery life won't be as good, either...
>
> My view from the trenches,
> Mac
>
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Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot

2001-04-11 Thread Mac Reiter

At 10:15 AM 4/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm basically trying to decide between a palm 500m or a compaq ipac 3635 for
>a few reasons which don't pertain to vnc.  But if I understand you correctly
>it seems like the palmvnc might be a little faster or dealable if I decide
>to use vnc.

Sorry - I neglected to mention that PalmVNC is incredibly slow as well.
The processor is slow, and having to do network retrieval and decompression
isn't fast either.  If you can accept installing a specialized version of
the VNC server, then it gets better, because you can flip to full screen,
wait for screen to load, select a region of interest, wait for screen to
load.  Otherwise you have to scroll and wait for all the intermediate bits
to load.

The CE version is slow to load a screen (it loads the entire screen at
once), but once loaded it can scroll on that screen very quickly.  

If you are looking at mostly static screens (so that a few downloads
provide you with the info you want), then I would tend to go with the CE
unit.  If your screens change a lot as you run, then just choose whichever
device you like the most for your other reasons, because a lot of network
traffic is going to occur anyway.  (Palm would have the advantage of not
downloading updates that are occurring off-screen, I suppose)

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Re: Single window add-on

2001-04-11 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

I think the missing function simply returns a the pointer to the window
being hooked, doesn't it?  So it shouldn't be at all hard to improvise.

Cheers,

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- Original Message -
From: "Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Single window add-on


> Hi
>
> I have tried to apply Celine's add on so I can use VNC to display a single
> window. her instructions are at
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/contrib/one-window.txt. i was unable to
> get this patch to work and compile.
>
> it dies at
> HWND fenetre = m_client->m_buffer->GetHwndFn();
>
> apparently GetHwndFn doesn't exist anymore
>
> you can get a pre-compiled somewhat different version frmo
> http://services.simac.be/vnc/single.html.  however this is R2, i was
> wondering if anyone has gotten this add on to work with a version released
> this year, or if anyone has got the WinVNC distributed frmo that site as
> vncnew.zip to work either.
>
> thanks
> craig mcfetridge
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RE: Single window add-on

2001-04-11 Thread Sharma, Shashi

I had the same problem. And I got this reply from the author which fixed it.



>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
>>
>> > Hi Ciline,
>> >
>> > I also fixed the missing problem with GetHwndFn() missing in vncBuffer.

>>The following works for me:
>> >
>> > vncBuffer.h:
>> > 
>> > public:
>> > HWND GetHwndFn();
>> >
>> > vncBuffer.cpp:
>> > --
>> > HWND
>> > vncBuffer::GetHwndFn()
>> > {
>> > return m_desktop->AppliWindow();
>> > };
>> >
>> > Your modifications work great. Thanx!
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> >   Guido
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Dipl.-Inform. Guido Muesch Philips Research Laboratories
>> > Research Scientist Weisshausstrasse 2
>> > Research Group DC  D-52066 Aachen, Germany
>> >
>> >Tel:+49 (0)241 6003 - 516
>> >Fax:+49 (0)241 6003 - 518
>> > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>--
>>Ciline FAGES
>>SILOGIC
>>http://www.silogic.fr
>>78 chemin des 7 deniers
>>31200 TOULOUSE
>>FRANCE
>>
>>
>

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How AuthHosts works?

2001-04-11 Thread Gonzalo Palma

Hello,

In Win nt 4.0 SP 5   winvnc 3.3.3r9...
AuthHosts  :-10.35.1:
is not working 

What Can I do?

Thanks


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From: "Sharma, Shashi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Single window add-on


> I had the same problem. And I got this reply from the author which fixed
it.
>
>
>
> >>
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
> >>
> >> > Hi Ciline,
> >> >
> >> > I also fixed the missing problem with GetHwndFn() missing in
vncBuffer.
>
> >>The following works for me:
> >> >
> >> > vncBuffer.h:
> >> > 
> >> > public:
> >> > HWND GetHwndFn();
> >> >
> >> > vncBuffer.cpp:
> >> > --
> >> > HWND
> >> > vncBuffer::GetHwndFn()
> >> > {
> >> > return m_desktop->AppliWindow();
> >> > };
> >> >
> >> > Your modifications work great. Thanx!
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> >   Guido
> >> >
> >>
> ---
> >> > Dipl.-Inform. Guido Muesch Philips Research Laboratories
> >> > Research Scientist Weisshausstrasse 2
> >> > Research Group DC  D-52066 Aachen, Germany
> >> >
> >> >Tel:+49 (0)241 6003 - 516
> >> >Fax:+49 (0)241 6003 - 518
> >> > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>--
> >>Ciline FAGES
> >>SILOGIC
> >>http://www.silogic.fr
> >>78 chemin des 7 deniers
> >>31200 TOULOUSE
> >>FRANCE
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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RE: How AuthHosts works?

2001-04-11 Thread Neel, Steve

I think you want -:+10.35.1

This denies access to everyone, except those matching 10.35.1 

-Steve

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How AuthHosts works?


Hello,

In Win nt 4.0 SP 5   winvnc 3.3.3r9...
AuthHosts  :-10.35.1:
is not working 

What Can I do?

Thanks


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From: "Sharma, Shashi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Single window add-on


> I had the same problem. And I got this reply from the author which fixed
it.
>
>
>
> >>
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
> >>
> >> > Hi Ciline,
> >> >
> >> > I also fixed the missing problem with GetHwndFn() missing in
vncBuffer.
>
> >>The following works for me:
> >> >
> >> > vncBuffer.h:
> >> > 
> >> > public:
> >> > HWND GetHwndFn();
> >> >
> >> > vncBuffer.cpp:
> >> > --
> >> > HWND
> >> > vncBuffer::GetHwndFn()
> >> > {
> >> > return m_desktop->AppliWindow();
> >> > };
> >> >
> >> > Your modifications work great. Thanx!
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> >   Guido
> >> >
> >>
> ---
> >> > Dipl.-Inform. Guido Muesch Philips Research Laboratories
> >> > Research Scientist Weisshausstrasse 2
> >> > Research Group DC  D-52066 Aachen, Germany
> >> >
> >> >Tel:+49 (0)241 6003 - 516
> >> >Fax:+49 (0)241 6003 - 518
> >> > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>--
> >>Ciline FAGES
> >>SILOGIC
> >>http://www.silogic.fr
> >>78 chemin des 7 deniers
> >>31200 TOULOUSE
> >>FRANCE
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Re: running VNC before login on 95/nt/2k

2001-04-11 Thread Akira Hatakeyama

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:04:17PM -0600, Mark Lehrer wrote:
> Hello!  Is it possible to have VNC start right when windows starts, so
> the remote user can log on through VNC?  This would make things a lot
> more convenient since the user would never have to visit the actual
> machine.

FAQ 27.

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RE: Single window add-on

2001-04-11 Thread Craig

I have a couple other problems too which other people are probably able to
fix easily themselves the right way. i fixed them enough for it to compile
and it works fine in normal mode but when i try to send just one window it
crashes after 5-20 seconds.

If someone could post the source with the way they modified it, or even a
binary that works on a website somewhere, or tell me the right way to fix
these errors because the way i fixed them may have gotten it to compile, but
it doesn't work too well.

thanks, craig
PS, i incorporated the change quoted below about GetHwndFn(), it worked
great thanks

--
so here is the code:
one error i was getting was:
vncProperties.cpp(458) : error C2065: 'name' : undeclared identifier

so i changed
if (GetDlgItemText(hwnd, IDC_NAME_APPLI, (LPSTR) name, 15) == 0) {
 log.Print(LL_INTINFO,VNCLOG("erreur lecture nom appli %d \n"),
GetLastError());
} else {
 _this->m_server->SetNameAppli(name);
}

to
char name[15];
if (GetDlgItemText(hwnd, IDC_NAME_APPLI, (LPSTR) &name, 15) == 0) {
 ...

to fix these errors from these lines: (same error for m_server and
m_hwnd_appli
error C2248: 'm_server' : cannot access protected member declared in class
'vncDesktop'
 if ( strcmp(buffer,((vncDesktop*)arg)->m_server->GetNameAppli()) == 0) {
   ((vncDesktop*)arg)->m_hwnd_appli = hwnd;

in vncDesktop.h i changed  these two from private to public in vncDesktop.h
HWND   m_hwnd_appli;
vncServer   *m_server;


i think those are all the changed i made.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sharma, Shashi
Sent: April 11, 2001 1:37 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Single window add-on
>>The following works for me:
>> >
>> > vncBuffer.h:
>> > 
>> > public:
>> > HWND GetHwndFn();
>> >
>> > vncBuffer.cpp:
>> > --
>> > HWND
>> > vncBuffer::GetHwndFn()
>> > {
>> > return m_desktop->AppliWindow();
>> > };
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Re: Palmtop or Palmpilot

2001-04-11 Thread Barn Owl

While I am not sure using a palm to interface wiht a desktop is really a
good idea due mostly to resolution difference.I never seena ny palm type
that really did 640x480 much less the more normal 1024x768. Other than
that I would same a window type would be the easiest to get running. but
I agree that a linux based palm might be faster.

"David W. Chapman Jr." wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to decide what would be better for running a vnc client.  What's
> better for running the viewer, a palm pilot or a palm top computer running
> windows CE or regular windows 98?  any input would be appreciated because I
> have no info to go on right now.
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