RE: VNC under Windows ME

2001-04-07 Thread Kurt Mysker

Do you have internet connection sharing turned on?

Kurt Mysker
"Philosophizing is nothing more than looking into a mirror that is looking
into another mirror, and picking the layer you like best." - Yoursker

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Coleman
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME


Thanks for the responses everyone.  It's a strange problem to be sure, I'm
not running a "network" as such.  Simply a cable modem connection to the
internet.  From my work PC I'd like to access my desktop at home.  Yet with
my version of Windows ME the applet will not initialize at all, no error
message is generated and no SysTray icon to indicate the activity of the
program exists.  I'm stumped... any suggestions?
- Original Message -
From: "Dave Drager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:53 AM
Subject: RE: VNC under Windows ME


> I had problems with VNC under ME also. For some reason it would work for a
> bit, then for some reason the HTTP server that it built in that serves the
> java applet stopped working. You can check this by doing a "netstat -na"
and
> seeing if both port 5800 and 5900 are open. If only 5900 is open then you
> are having the same problem. I fixed it in my situation to run by running
a
> HTTP server (apache) and serving the java applet off of that.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerry Hall
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VNC under Windows ME
>
> I'm running VNC under ME without any problems.
> What happens when you try to run it?
> Gerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Coleman
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME
>
>
> LOL sarcasm was never my strong suit... My OS should be Windows666!!
=)
> basically my ME install is bread N' butter build 4.9.3 , some TSR's
> running Norton, Winamp, ftp server, ICQ and PopUpkiller. Machine is
> IntelPIII500 198megs of ram.  Usual plugins for video, dvd, and shockwave.
> Your help is very much appreciated.. Thx..
> - Original Message -
> From: "Norberto Alfredo Bensa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME
>
>
> > > I've installed VNC under that wonderful OS system. Windows ME, and it
> will
> > not
> > > run no matter what I've tried. Can anyone offer a suggestion?  Thanks
in
> > > advance.
> >
> > Then it isn't so wonderful... =)
> >
> > Can you give us more information about your system configuration?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Norberto
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Re: VNC under Windows ME

2001-04-07 Thread Charles Coleman

I don't believe it's a matter of internet sharing or even browser usage.
The applet will not initialize under my Windows ME.  I have not indicator in
the SysTray to show that the service is up and running.  I have an FTP
server that works fine and can connect remotely via PC anywhere.  I'd much
rather use VNC if at all possible.  It looks like I may have to move to
Win2000.
- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Mysker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: VNC under Windows ME


> Do you have internet connection sharing turned on?
>
> Kurt Mysker
> "Philosophizing is nothing more than looking into a mirror that is looking
> into another mirror, and picking the layer you like best." - Yoursker
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Coleman
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME
>
>
> Thanks for the responses everyone.  It's a strange problem to be sure, I'm
> not running a "network" as such.  Simply a cable modem connection to the
> internet.  From my work PC I'd like to access my desktop at home.  Yet
with
> my version of Windows ME the applet will not initialize at all, no error
> message is generated and no SysTray icon to indicate the activity of the
> program exists.  I'm stumped... any suggestions?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Drager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:53 AM
> Subject: RE: VNC under Windows ME
>
>
> > I had problems with VNC under ME also. For some reason it would work for
a
> > bit, then for some reason the HTTP server that it built in that serves
the
> > java applet stopped working. You can check this by doing a "netstat -na"
> and
> > seeing if both port 5800 and 5900 are open. If only 5900 is open then
you
> > are having the same problem. I fixed it in my situation to run by
running
> a
> > HTTP server (apache) and serving the java applet off of that.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerry Hall
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: VNC under Windows ME
> >
> > I'm running VNC under ME without any problems.
> > What happens when you try to run it?
> > Gerry
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Coleman
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:27 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME
> >
> >
> > LOL sarcasm was never my strong suit... My OS should be Windows666!!
> =)
> > basically my ME install is bread N' butter build 4.9.3 , some TSR's
> > running Norton, Winamp, ftp server, ICQ and PopUpkiller. Machine is
> > IntelPIII500 198megs of ram.  Usual plugins for video, dvd, and
shockwave.
> > Your help is very much appreciated.. Thx..
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Norberto Alfredo Bensa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME
> >
> >
> > > > I've installed VNC under that wonderful OS system. Windows ME, and
it
> > will
> > > not
> > > > run no matter what I've tried. Can anyone offer a suggestion?
Thanks
> in
> > > > advance.
> > >
> > > Then it isn't so wonderful... =)
> > >
> > > Can you give us more information about your system configuration?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Norberto
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Re: VNC under Windows ME

2001-04-07 Thread Norberto Alfredo Bensa

Well, I got your password logon so the service is up and running...

How do you connect to your machine?

Best regards,
Norberto


- Original Message -
From: "Charles Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: VNC under Windows ME


> I don't believe it's a matter of internet sharing or even browser usage.
> The applet will not initialize under my Windows ME.  I have not indicator
in
> the SysTray to show that the service is up and running.  I have an FTP
> server that works fine and can connect remotely via PC anywhere.  I'd much
> rather use VNC if at all possible.  It looks like I may have to move to
> Win2000.
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Re: Converting display numbers for different ports

2001-04-07 Thread Harmen van der Wal

"Joseph A. Knapka" wrote:
> 
> [Possibly this should be in the FAQ. It doesn't come up very
> often on the list, but two or three people have sent me
> emails directly. I'll add it to my VNC page as well.]
 

<...>
> > Now the thing is I know that ports 2000 through 2010 are open over TCP.
<...>

Looks familiar, let me check... Yes! I have as good as a copy of that in
my mailbox.

Ever since I made this tiny modification to the Java viewer
(http://www.workspot.net/~harmen/vnc/) that allowed me to connect
through my ISPs packet filtering firewall, I get mail about VNC and
firewalls at least once a week. So I have been thinking about setting up
a FAQ for this. (Well, actually I tried to write an enhanced viewer, but
that didn't work out see link in sig)

I'm not sure how to go about this though: lots of people haven't got a
clue about proxies, firewalls and networking in general. And I don't
want to advise on how to break a local security policy, unless I trust
they know what they're doing (about 20% of people who mail me work in
the IT department). So maybe I shouldn't make it too easy with a FAQ?

-- 
Harmen
http://www1.tip.nl/~t515027/brandgang/
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secure vnc

2001-04-07 Thread Darren Evans

First let me say, i'm aware of Mindbright's Mindvnc which is no longer 
supported.

I want to run a java vnc client securely from any machine, even those 
annoyingly
restricted internet cafe's and ADSL which is NAT'ed and run java vnc client
through ssh to a static ip Linux server running vncserver.

Can/will this work, or is the solution to use ssl/java vnc client?

I've done some hunting around the web which mostly talks about using
local ssh forwarding.

Can this work with 2 applets, one doing local ssh forwarding,
and another running the java vnc client?

I apologise if this has been asked before, the search thing is either
not working or giving no results back.

many thanks
Darren
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extended java client

2001-04-07 Thread Darren Evans

Tried to contact the author of mfviewer, the extended java
vnc client and got a bounce.

Muddassar Farooq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>#

I was experimening with his java client on a local LAN
environment.

Which said ...

Just given vnc a tryout and a java client from
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/extras.html#altjava

which i'm very impressed with.

Unfortunately the java client is crashing a lot at the moment,
any ideas what causes this?

Setup for client is NT4 WKS, SP6a, to a FreeBSD 4.2-Stable,
vnc from ports tree aka vnc-3.3.3r2_unixsrc.tar.gz.

I'm starting the server with just vncserver &

And the client with

C:\temp1\mfviewer>jview vncviewer 192.168.123.205:1
RFB server supports protocol version 3.3
VNC authentication succeeded
sending client init
Desktop name is root's X desktop (abc.xyz.com:1)
Desktop size is 1024 x 768
disconnect

It connects for a few minutes and then crashes.

C:\temp1\mfviewer>jview
Microsoft (R) Command-line Loader for Java  Version 5.00.3309
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1996-2000. All rights reserved.

PS. Are there better java vnc clients / more stable?

regards
Darren
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Re: secure vnc

2001-04-07 Thread Harmen van der Wal

Darren Evans wrote:
> 
> First let me say, i'm aware of Mindbright's Mindvnc which is no longer
> supported.

Yes, but they seem to be planning a SSH (& SSL) API, so rolling your own
secure Java VNC viewer will be easy. (SSH-->RFB / SSL-->RFB)

> 
> I want to run a java vnc client securely from any machine, even those
> annoyingly
> restricted internet cafe's and ADSL which is NAT'ed and run java vnc client
> through ssh to a static ip Linux server running vncserver.

Well I guess that will be a problem, because in strict-security
environments you may not be able to grant an applet permission to
connect to a local proxy. And allthough Java allows for HTTP tunneling
restricted applets also, the tunneling technique has too much overhead
for something noisy like VNC (HTTP-->RFB). 

> 
> Can/will this work, or is the solution to use ssl/java vnc client?

If you're talking about HTTPS tunneling (SSL-->HTTP-->RFB) I had thought
this was the solution to two problems:
1) A restricted Java applet could connect out using a http/security
proxy, and the proxy would just have to handle 1 CONNECT request for as
long as the ssl/http connection was persistent.
2) The connection would be secure.

I was very dissapointed when I tried this, and found the browser will do
a CONNECT request for each HTTP request.

> 
> I've done some hunting around the web which mostly talks about using
> local ssh forwarding.
> 
> Can this work with 2 applets, one doing local ssh forwarding,
> and another running the java vnc client?
<...> 

I suggest you wait for the MindTerm SSH-API, and maybe use MindVNC until
then.

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