Re: vnc-3.3.3r1+TightVNC != Compile Problems...

2001-02-18 Thread ewiz

Thanks for replies... 

yep you have guessed it correctly I have the excate same problem as you
describedhere is more info..

[root@mybox /root]# rpm -q gcc egcs
gcc-2.95.2-12mdk
package egcs is not installed

-makedepend error
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
make[4]: *** [include.o] Error 1
-makedepend error

I think the above gcc is not old but is egcs required for the compile
also ? if not what would be the gcc version that it has been sucessfuly
compiled on ? so that I can just install the gcc which works and
compile...

thanks again..
ewiz

Jonathan Morton wrote:
> 
> >Xvnc builds its own copy of makedepend from source and in your case it
> >has failed to build it for some reason. Actual error message is not
> >shown in part of output you have provided and I guess it's something
> >like this:
> >
> >=== cut ===
> >gcc -O -ansi -pedantic  -I../../config/imake -I../../include
> >-I../../exports/include/X11  -I../.. -I../../exports/include  -Dlinux
> >LinuxMachineDefines -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE
> >-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT
> >-DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -c include.c -o include.o
> >gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
> >make[5]: *** [include.o] Error 1
> >make[5]: Leaving directory
> >`/home/user/VNC/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/config/makedepend'
> >=== cut ===
> >
> >If my guess is correct, this is a problem already reported by other
> >people but unfortunately I do not have a solution at this moment. The
> >problem depends on gcc version installed in the system and I think
> >it's caused by some incompatibilities in command-line syntax between
> >gcc versions. The reason why I'm not able to solve this problem
> >immediately is that I have no Linux installations with gcc version
> >which will behave like yours. But I plan to prepare RPMS for 1.2
> >release of TightVNC, so it's possible I will be faced with this
> >problem and I will have to solve it.
> 
> Can we have the GCC version number, ie the output of 'gcc -v'?  Your
> distribution name and version may also be helpful.  Also, does your error
> message (roughly) match the one above?  I suspect an ancient compiler,
> myself.
> 
> For reference, my compiler versions are "egcs-2.91.66" (from RedHat 6.1)
> and "gcc 2.95.2" (built myself on a RedHat 6.2 system), and I don't recall
> having had any problems with them ever.
> 
> Note that the technique used in the build command is in wide usage these
> days (building object files from source, then linking the object files in a
> later command, not shown), but the precise syntax may not be.
> 
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Re: vnc-3.3.3r1+TightVNC != Compile Problems...

2001-02-18 Thread Jonathan Morton

>yep you have guessed it correctly I have the excate same problem as you
>describedhere is more info..
>
>[root@mybox /root]# rpm -q gcc egcs
>gcc-2.95.2-12mdk
>package egcs is not installed
>
>-makedepend error
>gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
>make[4]: *** [include.o] Error 1
>-makedepend error
>
>I think the above gcc is not old but is egcs required for the compile
>also ? if not what would be the gcc version that it has been sucessfuly
>compiled on ? so that I can just install the gcc which works and
>compile...

EGCS is another name for GCC, which was used when GCC temporarily forked
(EGCS stands for Experimental GNU Compiler System, GCC was GNU C Compiler
but now means GNU Compiler Collection).  When the old GCC was dropped
because EGCS became mature, EGCS took over the GCC name again albeit with a
new meaning.  EGCS versions can roughly be equated to early GCC v2.9x.xx
version numbers.

I definitely remember being able to compile Xvnc using one of the two
compilers I mentioned, but it was long enough ago that I can't remember
which one.  I have very recently compiled XFree86 v4.0.2 successfully using
GCC 2.95.2, and I haven't heard of significant problems with XFree86
compilation, except from the RedHat 7.0 crowd (who have trouble with
everything).

I personally suggest going to www.fsf.org, downloading and compiling the
latest 2.95.x version you can find (or use RPM if you feel more comfortable
with that) - avoid 2.96.x, that's what RH 7.0 uses - and try again.  By the
look of it, you're using some recent version of Mandrake, which should be
perfectly stable and fine, and have all the right tools installed.  If you
still have problems after installing the "from the horse's mouth" version
of GCC, we'll look into it further.

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Re: kernel hooks

2001-02-18 Thread Tim Waugh

On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 02:56:11AM -0500, Andrew Bourdon wrote:

> I'm thinking of screwing arround with VNC and a really stripped down vanilla
> Linux kenel 2 create a very small visual terminal OS which could be used on
> old crappy machines with a little RAM and a weak CPU. How dificult would it
> be to create kernel calls which would be used by VNC? More specifically,
> what type of calls would be required and is it possible to weld some VNC
> components into the kernel itself?

Just use the framebuffer.  I think there's already a framebuffer-aware
VNC client somewhere (or else it was on Const's project list or
something ;-) ).

Tim.
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Re: vnc-3.3.3r1+TightVNC != Compile Problems...

2001-02-18 Thread ewiz

hi,
I visited fsf and but couldn't get a new more recent version than the
2.95.2(October 24, 1999) so instead I tried the same on two other box's
one with RH 6.2 and antoher with Debian, the debian 2.2 installed which
had gcc 2.95.2 installed and it worked partially...but on another RH 6.2
box with gcc 2.95.2 19991024 then same thing occured.

so now 
RedHat 6.2   gcc version 2.95.2 19991024FAILS
Mandrake 7.2 gcc version 2.95.3 19991030FAILS
Debian 2.2   gcc version 2.95.2 2220PARTIAL (Fails@ 

make[5]: Leaving directory
`/root/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/programs/Xserver/hw/vnc'
make[4]: *** No rule to make target `../../../libvncauth/libvncauth.a',
needed by `Xvnc'.
make[4]: Target `all' not remade because of errors.
...
make: *** [World] Error 2

so I am wondering if it fails are so many different versions of gcc
builds isn't there something wrong with the makedepende code itself or
any modification to the paramneter used to build makedepend. Or is this
is a problem of the gcc packager from RH and MDK ?

any idea on why the libvncauth.a erro popped up..

thanks again
ewiz
Jonathan Morton wrote:
> 
> >yep you have guessed it correctly I have the excate same problem as you
> >describedhere is more info..
> >
> >[root@mybox /root]# rpm -q gcc egcs
> >gcc-2.95.2-12mdk
> >package egcs is not installed
> >
> >-makedepend error
> >gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
> >make[4]: *** [include.o] Error 1
> >-makedepend error
> >
> >I think the above gcc is not old but is egcs required for the compile
> >also ? if not what would be the gcc version that it has been sucessfuly
> >compiled on ? so that I can just install the gcc which works and
> >compile...
> 
> EGCS is another name for GCC, which was used when GCC temporarily forked
> (EGCS stands for Experimental GNU Compiler System, GCC was GNU C Compiler
> but now means GNU Compiler Collection).  When the old GCC was dropped
> because EGCS became mature, EGCS took over the GCC name again albeit with a
> new meaning.  EGCS versions can roughly be equated to early GCC v2.9x.xx
> version numbers.
> 
> I definitely remember being able to compile Xvnc using one of the two
> compilers I mentioned, but it was long enough ago that I can't remember
> which one.  I have very recently compiled XFree86 v4.0.2 successfully using
> GCC 2.95.2, and I haven't heard of significant problems with XFree86
> compilation, except from the RedHat 7.0 crowd (who have trouble with
> everything).
> 
> I personally suggest going to www.fsf.org, downloading and compiling the
> latest 2.95.x version you can find (or use RPM if you feel more comfortable
> with that) - avoid 2.96.x, that's what RH 7.0 uses - and try again.  By the
> look of it, you're using some recent version of Mandrake, which should be
> perfectly stable and fine, and have all the right tools installed.  If you
> still have problems after installing the "from the horse's mouth" version
> of GCC, we'll look into it further.
> 
> --
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> 
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RE: Question from the Good ol' U.S. of A.

2001-02-18 Thread Lyle

You need to put ASDF on port 5801 & 5901 instead of 5800 & 5900.  Then you
need to have the ME machine forward ports 5801 & 5901 to ASDF(if that's
possible.).  Then you connect to your externalip:5801 to get to ASDF.

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Subject: Question from the Good ol' U.S. of A.


Hi all, I have a question about using winvnc on Win ME machines.

Machines:
Main Machine I use- name: QWERTY internal ip: 192.168.0.1 external ip:
xxx.xx.x.xx function: normal system + ICS gateway
Qwerty is running a duron 800 with 192 mb ram and a 10/100 nic (hub only
10).


Alternate Machine- name: ASDFG internal ip: 192.168.0.2 external ip: Will
use same as QWERTY function: run statistics simulations for programming
class.
ASDFG is running a amd k6-2 500 with 128 ram and a 10.100 nic.
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Re: Question from the Good ol' U.S. of A.

2001-02-18 Thread Andrew Smart

The solution i have found in working in a similar setup(and it is not the
best only the one i have found.) Is to use the VNC server on QWERTY as a
gateway to the otther boxes. In other words, VNC in to QWERTY and then use
the vnc cleint on QWERTY to connect to all of the other computers

Andrew
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From: "Kurt Mysker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:52 AM
Subject: Question from the Good ol' U.S. of A.


> Hi all, I have a question about using winvnc on Win ME machines.
>
> Machines:
> Main Machine I use- name: QWERTY internal ip: 192.168.0.1 external ip:
> xxx.xx.x.xx function: normal system + ICS gateway
> Qwerty is running a duron 800 with 192 mb ram and a 10/100 nic (hub only
> 10).
>
>
> Alternate Machine- name: ASDFG internal ip: 192.168.0.2 external ip: Will
> use same as QWERTY function: run statistics simulations for programming
> class.
> ASDFG is running a amd k6-2 500 with 128 ram and a 10.100 nic.
>
>
> Two other machines: UIOP - old piece of junk my parents have. HJKL -
another
> system I slapped together after I rotated the old parts out of QWERTY and
> ASDFG.
>
> Both machines belong to workgroup: "Workgroup"
>
> Here is the deal:
> I have a 4 system LAN at my house with my main system acting as a gateway
> (using Win ME's Internet Connection Sharing) to connect with a 56k modem
to
> my local ISP. Every morning before I go to my high school (I'm a student
as
> well as a paid computer nerd for 3 class periods a day) I boot up my
system,
> connect to the net and e-mail my school e-mail account (or remember the
last
> three digits) with my ip of the day. At school I log on to our novel
server
> through a win 98 se machine (connected to the schools T1) and run vnc
> viewer, input my ip of the day, and connect to my ICS system at home. This
> is all fine and dandy, but now the question. What do I do if I want to
> connect to another system on my LAN. I can not switch the ip address
because
> with ICS all of the systems have the same external ip. Would it be
something
> like doing a compound ip (just made up that word) like with the
> external/internal ip's? example: xxx.xx.x.xx/192.168.0.2 or can I use the
> machines name example: xxx.xx.x.xx/ASDFG. I'm trying to find a solution to
> being able to access ASDFG without first logging on to QWERTY and running
> VNC from there onto ASDFG, but I did do that once just to see if it would
> work.
>
> Notes: I have already added the registry keys to QWERTY to open up 5800
and
> 5900 in ICS. But I have not touched the registry on ASDFG.
> - Also, I have a full administrative account of my own at school so I
> shouldn't be being blocked in anyway by the school's servers.
>
> I realize that a VNC scanner may solve my problem, but I haven't got
around
> to figuring out how to work one yet.
>
> Kurt Mysker
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Re: Question from the Good ol' U.S. of A.

2001-02-18 Thread Angus Macleod

I use VPN to establish a connection to my internal network from the outside
world, and then can use VNC to control my internal machines from a remote
location.

To do this, I have a WinNT workstation (it could be Win2000 Pro) machine
that acts as VPN server. I have a cable router so I use its port forwarding
function (called Virtual Server), to forward VPN traffic (port 1723) to my
NT box. You would not need to do this if the machine running ICS was the VPN
server too (ICS comes with Win2000). Note that if you want to support
multiple incoming connections, you must use WinNT Server or Win2000 Server.

If you upgrade your WinME machine to Win2000 (approx $200) you could
implement a solution like this.

Angus.
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From: "Kurt Mysker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:52 AM
Subject: Question from the Good ol' U.S. of A.


> Hi all, I have a question about using winvnc on Win ME machines.
>
> Machines:
> Main Machine I use- name: QWERTY internal ip: 192.168.0.1 external ip:
> xxx.xx.x.xx function: normal system + ICS gateway
> Qwerty is running a duron 800 with 192 mb ram and a 10/100 nic (hub only
> 10).
>
>
> Alternate Machine- name: ASDFG internal ip: 192.168.0.2 external ip: Will
> use same as QWERTY function: run statistics simulations for programming
> class.
> ASDFG is running a amd k6-2 500 with 128 ram and a 10.100 nic.
>
>
> Two other machines: UIOP - old piece of junk my parents have. HJKL -
another
> system I slapped together after I rotated the old parts out of QWERTY and
> ASDFG.
>
> Both machines belong to workgroup: "Workgroup"
>
> Here is the deal:
> I have a 4 system LAN at my house with my main system acting as a gateway
> (using Win ME's Internet Connection Sharing) to connect with a 56k modem
to
> my local ISP. Every morning before I go to my high school (I'm a student
as
> well as a paid computer nerd for 3 class periods a day) I boot up my
system,
> connect to the net and e-mail my school e-mail account (or remember the
last
> three digits) with my ip of the day. At school I log on to our novel
server
> through a win 98 se machine (connected to the schools T1) and run vnc
> viewer, input my ip of the day, and connect to my ICS system at home. This
> is all fine and dandy, but now the question. What do I do if I want to
> connect to another system on my LAN. I can not switch the ip address
because
> with ICS all of the systems have the same external ip. Would it be
something
> like doing a compound ip (just made up that word) like with the
> external/internal ip's? example: xxx.xx.x.xx/192.168.0.2 or can I use the
> machines name example: xxx.xx.x.xx/ASDFG. I'm trying to find a solution to
> being able to access ASDFG without first logging on to QWERTY and running
> VNC from there onto ASDFG, but I did do that once just to see if it would
> work.
>
> Notes: I have already added the registry keys to QWERTY to open up 5800
and
> 5900 in ICS. But I have not touched the registry on ASDFG.
> - Also, I have a full administrative account of my own at school so I
> shouldn't be being blocked in anyway by the school's servers.
>
> I realize that a VNC scanner may solve my problem, but I haven't got
around
> to figuring out how to work one yet.
>
> Kurt Mysker
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Re: Can't start vnc service

2001-02-18 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

Use winvnc -remove to uninstall the WinVNC service.

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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Subject: Can't start vnc service


> On WinNT The "admin->install service" refuses to install a service; of
> course with no diagnostic info. I believe my problem is that winvnc is
> already listed as a service in the services list. Unfortunately I can find
> no way of deleting things from this list. The services utility allows
> disabling a service but not deleting it. Uninstalling a newly installed
> winvnc does not delete it. I obviously did this once before since it is
> there in the service list which means I have appropriate install
privileges.
> Any clue how I can delete that useless winvnc service so I can reinstall
it?
>
> I probably forgot to uninstall once before reinstalling and now I am being
> punished in perpetuity for my sin. ;-).
>
> Any advice gratefully and politely accepted.
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Re: kernel hooks

2001-02-18 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

If you're talking about a Vnc client under a minimal Linux then no hooks are
really required, just /dev/fb support - then you could write a
direct-to-framebuffer viewer, I think.  (Although someone's bound to have
already written one!)

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 7:56 AM
Subject: kernel hooks


> I'm thinking of screwing arround with VNC and a really stripped down
vanilla
> Linux kenel 2 create a very small visual terminal OS which could be used
on
> old crappy machines with a little RAM and a weak CPU. How dificult would
it
> be to create kernel calls which would be used by VNC? More specifically,
> what type of calls would be required and is it possible to weld some VNC
> components into the kernel itself?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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Re: kernel hooks

2001-02-18 Thread stanonik

On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Andrew Bourdon wrote:
> I'm thinking of screwing arround with VNC and a really stripped down vanilla
> Linux kenel 2 create a very small visual terminal OS which could be used on
> old crappy machines with a little RAM and a weak CPU. How dificult would it
> be to create kernel calls which would be used by VNC? More specifically,
> what type of calls would be required and is it possible to weld some VNC
> components into the kernel itself?

Maybe there's a product here.  Why carry around an entire OS.  All you
need is a framebuffer and TCP/IP stack to vncview the OS of your choice
on your home/work machine.  We approximate that now by running vncviewer
on a notebook running linux and on a pen based flat panel (Fujitsu Stylus)
running Windows.  With a wireless card, the pen machine approaches the
convenience of carrying a clipboard.

Ron
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RE: Firewall question..

2001-02-18 Thread Bill Taroli

Eric,

As a user of the LinkSys box, this is sounding fishy. Are you, by any
chance, using the DHCP server of the firewall? Have you updated to the
latest firmware? Used to be that certain port forwarding or filtering
features wouldn't work if you were using the DHCP server (don't ask me why).
Could be the culprit, particularly if making your box a DMZ host makes it
work.

As far as correct ports, it depends on the display. If you're using 0 (like
most of us), then 5900 and 5800 are the only ports you need to forward.

Bill Taroli

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From: Eric Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 18:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Firewall question..


New subscriber here (thanks for the idea David!!).  VNC has worked well for 
me so far but for one issue.  I cannot get my Linksys router to forward 
ports properly through its firewall.  I am forwarding port 5800 and 5900 to 
the static internal IP of my machine, but no matter what I do I cannot get 
it to work from the outside.

I have enabled Remote Administration of the router, so I can go in and 
manually put my machine in the DMZ from the outside world, and then access 
VNC just fine either with through the web server or the VNC 
client.  Obviously, this leaves me wide open to the rest of the world and I 
already had a problem getting hacked when I forgot and left my machine in 
the DMZ for a long period of time.  Came home that day to find Norton had 
stopped a virus (actually a trojan) from an unknown source.

I should add that I am currently running a Windows ME machine as the 
server, and my workstation at work is running NT 4 SP5.

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RE: Firewall question..

2001-02-18 Thread Eric Greenberg

At 12:19 PM 2/18/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>As a user of the LinkSys box, this is sounding fishy. Are you, by any
>chance, using the DHCP server of the firewall?

Nope, static IP's all around (internally).

>  Have you updated to the
>latest firmware?

Yes, running 1.37 dated Jan. 3, 2001.

>  Used to be that certain port forwarding or filtering
>features wouldn't work if you were using the DHCP server (don't ask me why).
>Could be the culprit, particularly if making your box a DMZ host makes it
>work.

I still believe that most of those features won't work using the DHCP 
server.  I know for sure that the DMZ feature won't work.

>As far as correct ports, it depends on the display. If you're using 0 (like
>most of us), then 5900 and 5800 are the only ports you need to forward.

Yes, good thought, but I am on the "0" display.  I connect through IE at 
work on port 5800 with no problems assuming my machine at home has been put 
in the DMZ.

You are right about something fishy going on.  I've even had a couple of 
replies off-list and it seems to me that I am doing everything right 
here.  I'm beginning to wonder if something isn't wrong with my router.

Someone off-list mentioned that it could be a firewall problem at 
work.  That's a possibility, but only a remote one.  I tend to think not 
since I can connect through port 5800 on IE and using the VNC client itself.

I'm going to give telnet a host at work on Tuesday and see what kind of 
message I get.  Thanks for your input.
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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-18 Thread Joseph A. Knapka

David Rothman wrote:
> 
> is SSH with win 2000 really a practical solution for the
> 'simple' task of file xferring when ftp is an available
> option, or am i missing something?
> 

SSH is practical. It's justified if you want security;
transferring files via FTP is completely insecure.

I thought the desire was to share a SMB network drive
across the internet when there are firewalls in the way,
in which case you will absolutely need some form of
port-forwarding or VPN. The secure port-forwarding
solution is SSH. Forgive me if I misunderstood the
original question.

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Re: kernel hooks

2001-02-18 Thread Jens Wagner

The /dev/fb is no problem, I'd just have to subclass rfb::Framebuffer. The real
work is to convert keyboard input from /dev/tty... to X Windows (RFB) keycodes
and to get mouse events from /dev/mouse or gpm. I didn't have much time to
check this out yet. Any ideas?
Btw, I'd use a linux 2.4.x kernel for that, they've got more framebuffer
drivers.

So, whats needed?
- Kernel with /dev/fb and network support - linux 2.4
- /sbin/init binary and a small sh-script - simpleinit?
- a very small shell - ?
- a very small libc (not glibc, it's too large) - ?
- insmod / ifconfig / route (to configure the nic)
- loadkeys (not everybody's got an english keyboard)
- gpm (mouse driver)
- a vnc client supporting /dev/fb, /dev/tty and gpm

Did I miss anything?

Greeting,
 - jens



James ''Wez'' Weatherall wrote:

> If you're talking about a Vnc client under a minimal Linux then no hooks are
> really required, just /dev/fb support - then you could write a
> direct-to-framebuffer viewer, I think.  (Although someone's bound to have
> already written one!)
>
> Cheers,
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrew Bourdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 7:56 AM
> Subject: kernel hooks
>
> > I'm thinking of screwing arround with VNC and a really stripped down
> vanilla
> > Linux kenel 2 create a very small visual terminal OS which could be used
> on
> > old crappy machines with a little RAM and a weak CPU. How dificult would
> it
> > be to create kernel calls which would be used by VNC? More specifically,
> > what type of calls would be required and is it possible to weld some VNC
> > components into the kernel itself?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
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Re: kernel hooks

2001-02-18 Thread Tim Waugh

On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 06:59:54PM +0100, Jens Wagner wrote:

> - a very small shell - ?

nash is small (a 6k static binary on the system I'm looking at).  Or
sash isn't bad.

> - a very small libc (not glibc, it's too large) - ?

http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/

> - insmod / ifconfig / route (to configure the nic)

Does BusyBox have those?

Tim.
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Re: mapping a remote drive

2001-02-18 Thread David Rothman

- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: mapping a remote drive


> David Rothman wrote:
> >
> > is SSH with win 2000 really a practical solution for the
> > 'simple' task of file xferring when ftp is an available
> > option, or am i missing something?
> >
>
> SSH is practical. It's justified if you want security;
> transferring files via FTP is completely insecure.

insecure how?  easy to break into the system the server sits
on (regardless of whatever security the server software has
enabled)?  easy to intercept files while they r being
xferred?  can u be more specific?


>
> I thought the desire was to share a SMB network drive
> across the internet when there are firewalls in the way,
> in which case you will absolutely need some form of
> port-forwarding or VPN. The secure port-forwarding
> solution is SSH. Forgive me if I misunderstood the
> original question.

in my situation (using win 2000 pro behind netgear rt311
routers), it's enuf to forward ports (which is what i do for
VNC).  im not quite sure how to setup SSH under windows.
actually im still confused about the differences between
VPN, IIS and SSH - but im working on it...


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stop loading

2001-02-18 Thread Chris Feltt

Does anyone know if there is a way to prevent WinVNC
from loading when I load up windows?  I am running
windows 98.  Thanks.

Chris

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Re: stop loading

2001-02-18 Thread Jonathan Morton

>Does anyone know if there is a way to prevent WinVNC
>from loading when I load up windows?  I am running
>windows 98.  Thanks.

"Uninstall WinVNC Service".  It's in the Start menu.

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RE: stop loading

2001-02-18 Thread Hayward, Simon

have a look at the startup section of the 'msconfig' utility that can be run
from Start -> Run

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>Does anyone know if there is a way to prevent WinVNC
>from loading when I load up windows?  I am running
>windows 98.  Thanks.

"Uninstall WinVNC Service".  It's in the Start menu.

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Getting Bels to work in VNC

2001-02-18 Thread Peter Milne

I am running a VNC 3.3.3 server on an NT system and the same version VNC
viewer
on another NT system.

VNC is working fine between these systems for letting me see and control
the screen on the system running the server.

The problem I'm having is that so far I haven't managed to get BEL characters
emitted by an application on the server machine to cause a sound on the
machine running the viewer.

I'd be grateful for any assistance in getting this to work.

Thanks
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Re: kernel hooks

2001-02-18 Thread Adrian Phillips

> "Jens" == Jens Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jens> The /dev/fb is no problem, I'd just have to subclass
Jens> rfb::Framebuffer. The real work is to convert keyboard input
Jens> from /dev/tty... to X Windows (RFB) keycodes and to get
Jens> mouse events from /dev/mouse or gpm. I didn't have much time
Jens> to check this out yet. Any ideas?  Btw, I'd use a linux
Jens> 2.4.x kernel for that, they've got more framebuffer drivers.

Jens> So, whats needed?  - Kernel with /dev/fb and network support
Jens> - linux 2.4 - /sbin/init binary and a small sh-script -
Jens> simpleinit?  - a very small shell - ?  - a very small libc
Jens> (not glibc, it's too large) - ?  - insmod / ifconfig / route
Jens> (to configure the nic) - loadkeys (not everybody's got an
Jens> english keyboard) - gpm (mouse driver) - a vnc client
Jens> supporting /dev/fb, /dev/tty and gpm

Jens> Did I miss anything?

Debian's bootfloppies could be used for this - the boot-floppies
package has a set of scripts to build a boot floppy (actually 2
floppies now the kernel has grown so much, but this could be squeezed
back down to 1 presumably). This includes busybox, which could be used
on its own - there is also a busybox-static package :-

Package: busybox-static
Priority: optional
Section: shells
Installed-Size: 872
Maintainer: Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Source: busybox
Version: 0.48-1
Filename: pool/main/b/busybox/busybox-static_0.48-1_i386.deb
Size: 403218
MD5sum: ac1713a40ad025896ee112874d3d9ebb
Description: Provides a stand alone rescue shell with tons of builtin utilities.
 BusyBox combines tiny versions of many common UNIX utilities into a single
 small executable. It provides minimalist replacements for the most common
 utilities you would usually find on your desktop system (i.e. ls, cp, mv,
 mount, tar, etc).  The utilities in BusyBox generally have fewer options than
 their full-featured GNU cousins; however, the options that are included
 provide the expected functionality and behave very much like their GNU
 counterparts.
 .
 BusyBox-static provides you with a statically linked simple stand alone shell
 that provides all the utilities available in BusyBox.  This package is
 intended to be used as a rescue shell, in the event that you screw up your
 system.  Invoke "busybox sh" and you have a standalone shell ready to save
 your system from certain destruction.  Invoke "busybox", and it will list the
 available builtin commands.

But busybox does not seem to contain networking commands itself (well
it has telnet, but no ifconfig, netstat, route). The boot-floppies
scripts require additional packages to build a boot floppy.

Sincerely,

Adrian Phillips

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