Re: OO and OS X El Capitan 10.11.5
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Lucetta wrote: Much appreciated Paul! Lucetta On Jun 23, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Ranger test wrote: Hello Lucetta, I have OO 4.1.2 installed and am running El Capitan without any problems. For OO, there are no compatibility issues with El Capitan. HOWEVER El Capitan makes countless other (often expensive software e.g. earlier versions of Photoshop) software programs unworkable. Hope this OO / El Capitan advice helps. Paul. a friend of mine reports the following: - The problems with libreoffice occurred in two different macs, one macbook pro the other one iMac. The mac function for full-screen (complicated to explain in an email, but very useful) does not get along with libreoffice: the screen flickers and goes black, and even when it works, there is a very narrow (but still annoying) black line atop the page. There also issues with the headings and styles: you need to tell them one by one so that they appear in the document map. And then there were minor things which perhaps are not even problems: the fn indicator is not superscripted, you need to save the docs in their own format for all the functions to be available, etc. For whatever it is worth I did find internet discussions of some of the issues above. anyone hear of these? looks like there are some issues if these features are important to a person. f. -- Felmon Davis Oh, love is real enough, you will find it some day, but it has one arch-enemy -- and that is life. -- Jean Anouilh, "Ardele" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OO and OS X El Capitan 10.11.5
sorry, I sent this to the wrong list, my friend had trouble with LibreOffice. perhaps still, do any of these problems occur with OpenOffice? great to know they don't since I could encourage him to try it again. f. On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Felmon Davis wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, Lucetta wrote: Much appreciated Paul! Lucetta On Jun 23, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Ranger test wrote: Hello Lucetta, I have OO 4.1.2 installed and am running El Capitan without any problems. For OO, there are no compatibility issues with El Capitan. HOWEVER El Capitan makes countless other (often expensive software e.g. earlier versions of Photoshop) software programs unworkable. Hope this OO / El Capitan advice helps. Paul. a friend of mine reports the following: - The problems with libreoffice occurred in two different macs, one macbook pro the other one iMac. The mac function for full-screen (complicated to explain in an email, but very useful) does not get along with libreoffice: the screen flickers and goes black, and even when it works, there is a very narrow (but still annoying) black line atop the page. There also issues with the headings and styles: you need to tell them one by one so that they appear in the document map. And then there were minor things which perhaps are not even problems: the fn indicator is not superscripted, you need to save the docs in their own format for all the functions to be available, etc. For whatever it is worth I did find internet discussions of some of the issues above. anyone hear of these? looks like there are some issues if these features are important to a person. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
propagating changes.
hello, I've frequently stumbled upon this problem so may as well seek some advice. I have a large document I work on this time of year. the default font size is 11pt but now I want to change it to 10.5pt - gonna make it into a booklet. simply altering the 'default' setting does not automatically modify the font size through the document. I don't want to 'select all' since there are other font sizes bound to a couple of 'styles' I'm using. how do I change a setting and have it 'propagate' automagically through the document? or is that not possible? maybe copy and paste into a suitable template? f. -- Felmon Davis He was a fiddler, and consequently a rogue. -- Jonathan Swift - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: propagating changes.
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis wrote: hello, I've frequently stumbled upon this problem so may as well seek some advice. I have a large document I work on this time of year. the default font size is 11pt but now I want to change it to 10.5pt - gonna make it into a booklet. simply altering the 'default' setting does not automatically modify the font size through the document. I don't want to 'select all' since there are other font sizes bound to a couple of 'styles' I'm using. how do I change a setting and have it 'propagate' automagically through the document? or is that not possible? maybe copy and paste into a suitable template? f. -- Felmon Davis The easiest way is to use the Navigator (F5 key). I get a little 'window' with rather obscure icons. what you describe however I get with F11. maybe I configured things differently in this regard. must it be 'F5'? Change the dropdowb at Navigator bottom to "Applied Styles". Press first icon from left to select Paragraph styles and modify each of the text styles by right clicking on the style and choosing Modify from the popup to 10.5 pt (usually Text Body and Default). If you have other body styles you will have to modify these as well. assuming my 'F11' is your 'F5', doing this is precisely what doesn't work. (sorry I was unclear.) the document was begun with a certain 'default' of my devising, 11pt font-size, first line indentation, etc. suppose I invoke 'F11' etc and change the font to 'negreta'; Lo! all the text is dark! change font-size? nada. If you have applied direct formatting instead of using styles properly this will not work. maybe I have inadvertently but passing strange it works with one kind of font formatting but not the other. f. -- Felmon Davis Dreams are free, but there's a small charge for alterations. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: propagating changes
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 15:13 19/07/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: I have a large document I work on this time of year. the default font size is 11pt but now I want to change it to 10.5pt - gonna make it into a booklet. simply altering the 'default' setting does not automatically modify the font size through the document. This depends on what you mean by the "default setting". I'm guessing that you have changed the value at Tools | Options... | OpenOffice Writer | Basic Fonts (Western) | Default - and you are right: this changes the default for new documents only and not anything in a document currently open for editing. ok, so that's settled. I don't want to 'select all' since there are other font sizes bound to a couple of 'styles' I'm using. Good: that wouldn't be the best solution. But you are using more styles that those "couple" you describe, since every paragraph will have a paragraph style with its own font size. If you have not knowingly ascribed a paragraph style to any part of your document, they may have the Default paragraph style (not to be confused with the default set in Options as above). I have given some types of paragraph a style, e.g. titles of each essay are 'Header 1' so I can build a Table of Contents and they have some special formatting, etc. that all works. how do I change a setting and have it 'propagate' automagically through the document? or is that not possible? o Go to Format | Styles and Formatting (or click the Styles and Formatting button in the Formatting toolbar, or press F11). o Select the Paragraph Styles button in the button bar of that window. o Put the cursor into your text to see which paragraph style is highlighted as being used. everything says 'default'. o Right click the paragraph style and select Modify... . o Modify the font size as required. o If this doesn't change all the relevant parts of your document, repeat in unaffected parts and change those paragraph styles too. so basically I have to go through the whole document and select pretty much every paragraph I want modified? not the automagic I sought. but the magic incantation, 'so be it', always works. maybe copy and paste into a suitable template? No need. curious. would this work? suppose I build a template according to taste, open an empty document based on it and then copy and pasted in the text I'm working on? of course, I'm assuming the template has the same paragraph types, etc., as the text. I trust this helps. you trust correctly. f. -- Felmon Davis I couldn't possibly fail to disagree with you less. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: propagating changes
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Rory O'Farrell wrote: Depending on the complexity of the document it can sometimes help to Select all and assign Default or Text Body paragraph style to the document. This may lose the Heading/Subheading formatting. In some cases I have been able to download an entire text (usually from Project Gutenberg), and after removing the unwanted end of line markings change the overall style to Default or Text Body. Then I could search for the Chapter Heading and apply Style Heading 1. I was able to format war and Peace in ten minutes using that method. well this is what I would like to avoid - though I admire your speedy fingers! I think my document is a little more complex. it has 'title', 'author', 'affiliation' and some paragraphs have extra indentation and a still smaller font. rather than strip everything out - and lose the table of contents also, I'd rather just march through and apply a style to the stubborn paragraphs which are mostly of the same type. it won't be as fast as your record with War and Peace but still less pain. f. -- Felmon Davis "They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: propagating changes
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 15:40 19/07/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: the document was begun with a certain 'default' of my devising, 11pt font-size, first line indentation, etc. How did you do this? sorry, I didn't see this email until a day after it was posted and meantime have had hands full with some other work. I'm not sure if I have answered your questions in our off-list correspondence but despite your worthy efforts, I am still very unclear about 'direct formatting' vs 'templating'. to preserve context I quote your response and make some comments thereafter: You may have modified a paragraph style (or created a new one), in which case you can now simply modify that style as you wish. But you may have set the paragraph properties of your first paragraph and then relied on each new paragraph inheriting the properties from its predecessor. Note that in this second case, your "default" has been applied as a paragraph property, whereas the first uses a paragraph *style* property; these are two different things. If you used the second method, I think you have a longwinded task ahead of you, with no "automagic" shortcuts. suppose I invoke 'F11' etc and change the font to 'negreta'; Lo! all the text is dark! change font-size? nada. That will be because you chose the first technique above, and your local character or paragraph formatting is overriding your change of paragraph style. maybe I have inadvertently but passing strange it works with one kind of font formatting but not the other. I think that will be because the "default of [your] devising" happened to modify - and thereby fossilise - the font size but not the font itself. The font is still game to be changed by a change in paragraph style. Note that font size is a character property, a character style property, and a paragraph style property (but not a paragraph property, although an entire paragraph can be given a font size using the character property, of course). So you can set font size in various ways, and understanding what is happening can be confusing. I know it is easy for me to say this now, but you can see why learning about and using styles is very useful in OpenOffice. You will reap rewards. I am perplexed and it has to do with discerning when I'm committing the sin of 'direct formatting' vs invoking the blessings of 'styles' several yrs ago I made a default template with my favorite formatting - 1st line indented, font type, font size mainly. I also bound some special formatting to some keys so for paragraphs indented on all lines fore and aft I have a special key, another key to re-set to my default style. now to perplexities and questions: Q1: when I set the default template. doesn't that count (also) as "using styles"? now suppose I pull up F11 and decide, "oh, I want 12pt instead," so I modify it in F11 accordingly. Q2: doesn't this count as "using styles"? now I notice this makes the change pervasive in some docs and but not in others. Q3: where it doesn't work, what should I infer: a) I have NOT used my default template (contrary to what I thought)? b) I HAVE used my default template but font size doesn't change because it's 'fossilized'? (but why?) c) I have used 'direct formatting'? (how? I used my default template). I guess (c) is just a catch-all for the others. (a) is quite possible through inadvertence. thankful for any light by you or anyone! f. -- Felmon Davis I just know I'm a better manager when I have Joe DiMaggio in center field. -- Casey Stengel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Double line spacing
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016, Doug wrote: I agree that I brought up the word "manuscript" since something like a term-paper or a dissertation might frequently be called by that term, and I thought that the derivation from the Latin would be of interest. To those interested in language, it might be noted that "manus" even tho it has a masculine ending, is feminine, not only in Latin, but in Italian, (la mano) French, and even in the non-Romance language, German (die Hand). I do love a little lightly spread pedantry! so how do you guys pluralize 'virus'? f. -- Felmon Davis Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities. -- Mark Twain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[OT] "lightly spread pedantry" (was: Double line spacing)
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote: virii Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a second declension noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural would be "viri", not *"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means "men". (I suppose some people do believe that all men are slime.) that's a great line (men and slime)! ok, so how about this one - how do you pluralize 'agenda'? *"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent) *"virius". btw I just take it that 'virii' is now slang so acceptable on that score, kind of like 'deletia' which is also impossible in Latin. f. -- Felmon Davis Encyclopedia for sale by father. Son knows everything. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [OT] "lightly spread pedantry" (was: Double line spacing)
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:29 06/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: ...how do you pluralize 'agenda'? "Agenda" is already a plural in Latin, meaning "doings". As it needs a plural in English, that again has to be a regular English plural: "agendas". (Er, should we get back to software?!) aw, and I was going to ask about 'data'! was (silly) fun! back to business. f. -- Felmon Davis If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [was:] Double line spacing
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 13:43 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote: I suggest that we agree to disagree ... You can disagree without my needing to agree that you can. If agreeing to disagree means that I accept that "virii" is as arguable as "viruses", then I don't. ... each knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred usages in our respective geographic areas. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language says "viruses". Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary says "viruses". Other dictionaries give no irregular plural, implying the same. Sorry, but your defence of "virii" as an Americanism is simply untrue: USian dictionaries imply it's a misuse even there. just a quick (last) word: I take dictionaries to describe usage, not prescribe it thus they lag actual usage. not sure what authority dictionary writers would have to dictate usage anyway. f. -- Felmon Davis "All my life I wanted to be someone; I guess I should have been more specific." -- Jane Wagner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: URGENT - Re: spellcheck error again after installing new update Re: spellcheck
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, Richard Beeston wrote: Thanks I'm not sharp on Windows either but googling it seems you should find the user profile thus: make sure openoffice is not running. a) click Start and type %appdata% in the search box; b) go to /OpenOffice/4/user c) rename user to something like 'user-old' so you can restore it or its contents restart openoffice. if it doesn't work then stop openoffice and restore 'user-old' (or whatever you called it) to 'user' and seek further help. I found this at <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403> my impression is this is surgery with a hammer because it removes all your customizations. and I wish there were a more fine-tuned approach. if you saved 'user-old' you can go in and try to restore individual customizations like templates and stuff. please no matter what, be sure you have backups of important stuff like your thesis!!! (and by 'backups' I mean several and not only on the one computer and ideally a recent copy in some other physical location. please.) F. -Original Message- From: Rory O'Farrell Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 9:44 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: URGENT - Re: spellcheck error again after installing new update Re: spellcheck On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:51:28 +1000 "Richard Beeston" wrote: Hi Rory This was not a "fast" shutdown. There was a small window came on the bottom left of a screen I was working os which indicated that it was from Open Office which said there was an update for the dictionary to get English English updates. I did not screen dump this so I cannot show you what it is. I downloaded this as in my thesis I need the "correct" spelling for the words in Australia not the US spelling. I turned off in the normal way which I have been using for many years and then the next day I found my dictionary had disappeared. This was annoying at the time and was wondering what to do when Chris's email came into my inbox. Going onto where to find some of the files. Where is the file explorer found. I have typed this into the Search file area and nothing comes up except references to the emails that I have kept. so if you could guide as to where to find this I can then go on from there as per your previous email. I am using Windows 7 and OO 4.1.2 Thanks Richard I am very stale on Windows having moved to Linux some eight or so years ago and am unfamiliar with the more modern windows - anything after XP I have only touched to rescue one or two local computers in crisis. The File Explorer (a name I have been given and seen by more informed users) is not the Search file area, but the mechanism by which one can navigate from one directory or disk to another. -- Felmon Davis "... all the modern inconveniences ..." -- Mark Twain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
saving certain pages to a document
greets! I suspect it's not possible without attempting a macro but: is it possible to save say pages 10 to 20 of a document to a file? I know one can export selected pages to a pdf but I'd like to 'export' selected pages to odt or, preferably, to doc. basically 'save as' but get to choose the pages. f. -- Felmon Davis Reporter: "How did you like school when you were growing up, Yogi?" Yogi Berra: "Closed." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis wrote: greets! I suspect it's not possible without attempting a macro but: is it possible to save say pages 10 to 20 of a document to a file? I know one can export selected pages to a pdf but I'd like to 'export' selected pages to odt or, preferably, to doc. basically 'save as' but get to choose the pages. f. -- Felmon Davis Reporter: "How did you like school when you were growing up, Yogi?" Yogi Berra: "Closed." On the rare occasions I need to do this I use one of two approaches. I either Save the file under a new name, then delete the earlier and later pages to leave only what I require, or I select and Copy the pages required, pasting them into a new file. yeah, I'm stuck doing this. only the first option works as the document is highly formatted so I'd have to recreate the formatting. luckily relatively short, need five chunks from 50+ pages. related issue: is there an easy way to convert page numbers from 'fields' to ordinary numbers? sigh, I assume I have to re-set pagination on each sub-file if I want that. maybe I should have done this as a 'master document'? fooled with that a couple of yrs ago but the added layer of complexity did not bring an added degree of gain. f. -- Felmon Davis today, n.: A nice place to visit, but you can't stay here for long. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Martin Groenescheij wrote: On 14/08/16 2:47 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Felmon Davis wrote: greets! I suspect it's not possible without attempting a macro but: is it possible to save say pages 10 to 20 of a document to a file? I know one can export selected pages to a pdf but I'd like to 'export' selected pages to odt or, preferably, to doc. basically 'save as' but get to choose the pages. f. -- Felmon Davis Reporter: "How did you like school when you were growing up, Yogi?" Yogi Berra: "Closed." On the rare occasions I need to do this I use one of two approaches. I either Save the file under a new name, then delete the earlier and later pages to leave only what I require, or I select and Copy the pages required, pasting them into a new file. Alternative is to copy the .odt file and delete the content of the copied file. save this under a new name. Now you have at least an empty document with all Styles as in your original file. Everything you copy now from your original documents should have at least the Styles preserved. forgot about this way of doing it (preserving formatting); may have had mixed success with it in the past also. I'll remember it the next occasion. I suppose I could also build a template. f. -- Felmon Davis "Success covers a multitude of blunders." -- George Bernard Shaw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, James Plante wrote: Or perhaps… Create new doc. From styles menu: load styles From the dialog that results, check the “From file” box. Select your original file from the dialog that results; Choose the parameters from the import dialog; Import. I wasn't aware of this resource! fact is, I had installed an extension called 'template-changer' for a similar purpose but this 'style import' utility is built-in and seems to work smoothly. I didn't find anything called 'import' but the 'load styles' dialogue seemed to work; when I looked at the styles list in the new document, I found the styles I had devised in the source document. great! Anyway, that’s the way I do it. I don’t like the “Select everything and delete it” option, because I did that once. Screwed up and chose to save the file. It did what I told it, and saved an empty doc over my finished report. Fortunately, I use a Mac with a Time Machine backup, so I didn’t lose it all. But it was--at least momentarily--a heart-stopper. Jim definitely a hazard when juggling files. this was a great help! thank you. f. -- Felmon Davis It'll be a nice world if they ever get it finished. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 18:16 14/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, James Plante wrote: From styles menu: load styles ... the 'load styles' dialogue seemed to work; when I looked at the styles list in the new document, I found the styles I had devised in the source document. I'm not sure why this is necessary: a little experimentation confirms my impression that simply copying and pasting material from one document to another automatically carries with it necessary styles. Brian Barker here a little experimentation confirms my impresson the styles are not carried over. bit of a hurry now but I'll have a deeper look later; most likely I'm missing some special circumstance. weird. the way I tell is the style list in the destination doc does not contain the customized styles from the source document; also obvious at first glance (e.g. single-spaced in destination file while 1 1/2 spaced in source file) which is what triggered my question yesterday. I'm at 4.1.1. f. -- Felmon Davis According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Girvin R. Herr wrote: On 08/14/2016 03:16 PM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, James Plante wrote: snip I wasn't aware of this resource! fact is, I had installed an extension called 'template-changer' for a similar purpose but this 'style import' utility is built-in and seems to work smoothly. snip Felmon, I have used the Template Changer extension in the past for AOO 3.x, however, it is my understanding that it is not compatible with AOO 4.x+ and is no longer maintained, so no hope of future compatibility with current or future AOO versions. In your later posting, you say that you are using AOO 4.1.1. Are you still able to use the AOO 3.x Template Changer extension with 4.1.1? Girvin Herr I did a quick test applying a somewhat 'stylized' template to a pretty simple (minor formatting) document and to all appearances it seems to have worked. the template has a page header and footer, the footer has text for the title and top and bottom borders and page numbering; header has a place-holder where the title of the section would appear (if the simple document had a section title; paragraphing is now 1.5 line spacing. yes, seems formatting has been carried over. it is version 4.1.1; template changer is at 1.2.6. I have not checked for updates to the latter. f. -- Felmon Davis You should avoid hedging, at least that's what I think. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 23:39 14/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 18:16 14/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, James Plante wrote: From styles menu: load styles ... the 'load styles' dialogue seemed to work; when I looked at the styles list in the new document, I found the styles I had devised in the source document. I'm not sure why this is necessary: a little experimentation confirms my impression that simply copying and pasting material from one document to another automatically carries with it necessary styles. here a little experimentation confirms my impression the styles are not carried over. bit of a hurry now but I'll have a deeper look later; most likely I'm missing some special circumstance. weird. [...] I'm at 4.1.1. Just to confirm my experience (in version 4.1.2 under Windows): I created a new text document with new character, paragraph, and page styles and saved it as .odt. I even closed OpenOffice. Now I reopened the document, selected all, and copied and pasted into a new document. The new document showed all three custom styles. (A manual page break was not carried over, which confused the issue slightly, but the styles were all there.) Brian Barker there must be some special condition differing between your and my setup. I may try to replicate your experiment exactly but not right this moment; maybe tomorrow. I did repeat my experiment: (a) open new document (OpenOffice 4.1.1 under Linux (Debian)); (b) check default style and applied style: just says 'default' and no 'applied styles' (c) take heavily formatted document and copy and paste a bit from it into the 'virgin' document. (d) check default style and applied style: same as in (b); plus immediately obvious since the formatted document has 1.5 line spacing while 'virgin' is single-spaced. there are differences between your experiment and mine; wouldn't have thought they'd make a difference (e.g. saying the virgin document first) but will play again tomorrow and see. (main obvious difference, of course, is the version of OO.) f. -- Felmon Davis One man's Mede is another man's Persian. -- George M. Cohan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: saving certain pages to a document
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 00:35 23/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 23:39 14/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote: At 18:16 14/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, James Plante wrote: From styles menu: load styles ... the 'load styles' dialogue seemed to work; when I looked at the styles list in the new document, I found the styles I had devised in the source document. I'm not sure why this is necessary: a little experimentation confirms my impression that simply copying and pasting material from one document to another automatically carries with it necessary styles. here a little experimentation confirms my impression the styles are not carried over. bit of a hurry now but I'll have a deeper look later; most likely I'm missing some special circumstance. weird. [...] I'm at 4.1.1. Just to confirm my experience (in version 4.1.2 under Windows): I created a new text document with new character, paragraph, and page styles and saved it as .odt. I even closed OpenOffice. Now I reopened the document, selected all, and copied and pasted into a new document. The new document showed all three custom styles. (A manual page break was not carried over, which confused the issue slightly, but the styles were all there.) there must be some special condition differing between your and my setup. I may try to replicate your experiment exactly but not right this moment; maybe tomorrow. I did repeat my experiment: (a) open new document (OpenOffice 4.1.1 under Linux (Debian)); (b) check default style and applied style: just says 'default' and no 'applied styles' (c) take heavily formatted document and copy and paste a bit from it into the 'virgin' document. (d) check default style and applied style: same as in (b); plus immediately obvious since the formatted document has 1.5 line spacing while 'virgin' is single-spaced. there are differences between your experiment and mine; wouldn't have thought they'd make a difference ... You talk of "default" style without saying whether you are talking of page, paragraph, or character styles. sorry for being so unclear but I am talking about the field that appears when you press F11 which regulates a lot of the paragraphing including font style, etc. It seems that the default paragraph style in particular is protected and not overwritten when material is copied in. But the process works perfectly well, it seems, with styles being automatically imported, if you use *custom* styles instead of modifying Default. not sure I understand this. two remarks: a) it sounds like you are saying that 'default' (via 'F11') will not be altered by copy and paste; if so, that's what I've observed. b) it sounds like you are saying other customizations will be altered by copy and paste; if so, I have not found this to be so - I don't see them via 'F11' looking at 'applied styles' or at 'custom styles'. I still haven't do your experiment but I intend to try it. I probably have misunderstood you though. my apologies in advance; oh heck, I apologize for past misunderstandings too! f. -- Felmon Davis That all men should be brothers is the dream of people who have no brothers. -- Charles Chincholles, "Pensees de tout le monde" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
end of Apache?
folks, the following statement is of interest to users of OpenOffice: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice Outgoing Apache OpenOffice project management committee (PMC) chair Dennis Hamilton has begun the discussion of a possible (note possible at this point) shutdown of the project. "In the case of Apache OpenOffice, needing to disclose security vulnerabilities for which there is no mitigation in an update has become a serious issue. In responses to concerns raised in June, the PMC is currently tasked by the ASF Board to account for this inability and to provide a remedy. An indicator of the seriousness of the Board's concern is the PMC been requested to report to the Board every month, starting in August, rather than quarterly, the normal case. One option for remedy that must be considered is retirement of the project. The request is for the PMC's consideration among other possible options." more details at: <https://lwn.net/Articles/699047/> I think the article is from 09/01/2016. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
font-size mismatch between toolbar and text
greets! I have a 40 page document which I sent to the printer; the printer noted the font size in the document I sent is 6.5 pt. I thought it looked small when I had printed out a sample but the toolbar says the text is the intended 10 pt! I am guessing I should reset the user profile but any better advice? this is 4.1.1 on Debian. never ever had this problem before. note too I tried the document on a Windows 7 machine running 4.1.3 with the same discrepancy. f. -- Felmon Davis Let's organize this thing and take all the fun out of it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: DOCX file extension
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2016-11-26, 1:59 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote: Not directly. One of the many "features" of OO 4,x.x BS. I can open any docx files that have been sent to me with Apache OpenOffice. not complete BS - I have encountered .docx files I cannot open. if I then load them up to google-docs, they open fine and I can save them as .odt or whatever. I'd say out of about 300 .docx files I've dealt with since September (I've dealt with many more actually in this period), I stumbled across this once. typical rate in my experience. I'm still on 4.1.1. f. > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM, David Kendal wrote: Hello, I have the most recent version of Open Office but am unable to open DOCX files sent to me. Is there a way of opening these files? Thanks, David Kendal __ -- Felmon Davis In the beginning there was nothing. And the Lord said "Let There Be Light!" And still there was nothing, but at least now you could see it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: DOCX file extension
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016, Jim McLaughlin wrote: BS right back at you. Three folks in this thread are reporting exactly that unacceptable performance. You really need to understand that there are lots of OO users out here who's experiences with OO are sub satisfactory I have complaints about my spouse too but for the most part I am quite satisfied; same for OO. , and learn that you persuade no one of anything with your immediate resort to insults and foul language because others have experience different from yours. gentlemen, mind the furniture! f. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2016-11-26, 1:59 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote: Not directly. One of the many "features" of OO 4,x.x BS. I can open any docx files that have been sent to me with Apache OpenOffice. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM, David Kendal wrote: Hello, I have the most recent version of Open Office but am unable to open DOCX files sent to me. Is there a way of opening these files? Thanks, David Kendal __ -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Etiquette is for those with no breeding; fashion for those with no taste. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
format changes mysteriously.
greets! using AO 4.1.5; for some reason when I type a something on a new line and end it with ':' that is, with the colon, the format of the line changes from my default to 'Heading 3'. I note if after the change to 'Heading 3' if I do an 'undo' (via 'ctrl+z') it changes the format to 'text-body'. I have tried deleting 'default.ott', I have replaced it with a version from an older set-up I used to use (sitting in backup). in 'organizer' 'default' says it is 'linked with' 'none'. quite annoying. suggestions? (I'm on Debian.) f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: format changes mysteriously.
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Brian Barker wrote: At 00:51 01/03/2018 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: using AO 4.1.5; for some reason when I type a something on a new line and end it with ':' that is, with the colon, the format of the line changes from my default to 'Heading 3'. That's supposed to happen - but when you type Ctrl+3, not Shift+: . A few thoughts: o Go to Tools | Customise... | Keyboard. o Under Category, open the Styles entry and select Paragraph. o Under Function, select "Heading 3". o What does it say under Keys? It should be Ctrl+3; is it something else? o Go to Tools | Customise... | Keyboard. o Under Category, select Format. o Under Function, select Apply. o What does it say under Keys? It should be nothing; is it something else? o If Shift+: is being interpreted as Ctrl+3, is there something seriously wrong with your keyboard driver? Or keyboard? What happens if you type Shift+: in another application? But I'm guessing ... I trust this helps. I had, I recall, rooted around in those settings but it was good to have another look. all these settings look 'kosher'. the problem has cleared up though. here is my hypothesis but I don't know if it makes sense: perhaps my default.ott was misconfigured/corrupt (I make adjustments relatively often) and it 'caught something'. I don't know why I didn't immediately see a change when I replaced it with an older copy, I don't know when it gets loaded. I usually do not restart AO but maybe I had. loaded a document that gave me the problem and there's no problem now. I much appreciate the good advice! "there's always something." f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: format changes mysteriously.
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Brian Barker wrote: At 00:51 01/03/2018 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: using AO 4.1.5; for some reason when I type a something on a new line and end it with ':' that is, with the colon, the format of the line changes from my default to 'Heading 3'. That's supposed to happen - but when you type Ctrl+3, not Shift+: . A few thoughts: o Go to Tools | Customise... | Keyboard. o Under Category, open the Styles entry and select Paragraph. o Under Function, select "Heading 3". o What does it say under Keys? It should be Ctrl+3; is it something else? o Go to Tools | Customise... | Keyboard. o Under Category, select Format. o Under Function, select Apply. o What does it say under Keys? It should be nothing; is it something else? o If Shift+: is being interpreted as Ctrl+3, is there something seriously wrong with your keyboard driver? Or keyboard? What happens if you type Shift+: in another application? But I'm guessing ... I trust this helps. seems I spoke (wrote) too soon. the problem is not extinct. I have to make some more observations. I am beginning to see a pattern. more later. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: format changes mysteriously.
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Brian Barker wrote: At 00:51 01/03/2018 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: using AO 4.1.5; for some reason when I type a something on a new line and end it with ':' that is, with the colon, the format of the line changes from my default to 'Heading 3'. That's supposed to happen - but when you type Ctrl+3, not Shift+: . A few thoughts: o Go to Tools | Customise... | Keyboard. o Under Category, open the Styles entry and select Paragraph. o Under Function, select "Heading 3". o What does it say under Keys? It should be Ctrl+3; is it something else? o Go to Tools | Customise... | Keyboard. o Under Category, select Format. o Under Function, select Apply. o What does it say under Keys? It should be nothing; is it something else? o If Shift+: is being interpreted as Ctrl+3, is there something seriously wrong with your keyboard driver? Or keyboard? What happens if you type Shift+: in another application? But I'm guessing ... I trust this helps. so I had a hypothesis which didn't pan out: thought it might correlate with copying and pasting from the browser or from other people's documents (I get several docs from people I have to comment on). however, I clearly get the effect on opening a new document. so it passed all your tests. I don't have many other apps to try but nothing like this occurs in Kate or in Kword (hmm..., interesting, never looked at this before!) or even in Calc from the AO suite. I forgot to play with this on my office computer but I think not it doesn't happen there. I forgot to fetch that default.ott and try it here; will fetch it next time I'm at that machine. (also Linux, Debian; I believe same version of AO.) will keep scratching. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: where one ends a document
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:52:06 -0400 Maurice Howe wrote: Rory (and Christina & others), that should be USER DATA (not GENERAL). Maurice Yes, that is correct - an error on my part. At present I am typing/computing with one eye, while I wait for a cataract operation on the second eye and matters then to stabilise sufficiently to update reading glasses. good luck. just had both eyes done. f. -- Felmon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Was saving now it does not
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Kathi Holmes wrote: It is not saving again. I am about ready to go to give up and use another program. Sent from my iPhone according to this webpage <https://www.openoffice.org/documentation/HOW_TO/misc/Troubleshooting_guide.html#7.General%20error%20or%20General%20input/output%20error%20|outline> the error betokens corruption of some important files, specifically script.xlc and dialog.xlc. it gives some instructions on how to fix this. I don't recall if you are under Windows or not. they say for Windows - copy from C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org\presets\basic to C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\OpenOffice.org\user\basic - try that and see if it helps; if you have difficulty doing this, drop the list a line and someone can help. I do hope this resolves the problem! f. On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote: On 3/10/18 9:14 am, Kathi Holmes wrote: Message I get; Regarding Open Office 4. Did you do something? We can't do something on your computer. It is now saving. Than your problem is solved. Once before it saved and then quit. That's history. History: when I went to save documents in open office 4, I got the error message: input/output error on saving. Due to this Open office would not save documents in any application. Is this now enough information for you? It's information, but I have no idea what to do with this information - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Schenectady, NY - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Templates
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, Richard Beeston wrote: Hi all I am using current AOO on Windows 7 and am trying to create a document for a thesis that I am doing I have a list of works that need to be put into a bibliography using the MLA method which entails having the first line of the reference against the margin with any other lines indented (Literally the opposite of paragraphing). Is there any template that I can use to create such a file and where might I find it please I am on the mailing list for this ort of query. Many Thanks Richard Beeston ar2l...@bigpond.com just to share what I do: I create a 'style' for 'bibliography 1' and set up "Indents & Spacing" thus: Before text => 0.50" After text => 0.00" First line => -0.50 you may prefer or require other values; this roughly corresponds to MLA. I have it single-spaced. you can save an empty document with this style as a template. I have put out an annual collection of essays by diverse authors; I have a template with styles set for biblio, footnotes, ToC, header and footer and so on. others should offer better solutions. f. -- Felmon Davis Schenectady, NY - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: How do I open a document when I forgot the password?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, Marilyn LeBaron wrote: How do I open a document I forgot the password to? It will not let me make a new copy. The instructions are to open the document and save a copy of it to begin editing it. But, I cannot do that the document will not open without a password. I cannot save a new copy it has to be open before I can save and rename it. How do I get the password off? Who do I go to for help. Marilyn LeBaron you've gotten the sad news about opening the document from others. but you can make a *copy* of the *file* for safe-keeping or other reasons. if that's (also) what you want, tell us what operating system (e.g. Windows) you are using and if you can, where the file is located. a 'document' is from the computer's perspective a 'file' with a name like "MySecrets.docx". it is located somewhere like in 'My Documents' or something. someone can walk you through it. you still won't be able to see the *contents* until you somehow obtain the password. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
spacing before/after group of paragraphs.
hello, it's easy to set up a style to indent a paragraph with two line spaces separating it from the rest of the text fore and aft. suppose I want a style that will keep two paragraphs together, separated by one line but separated from the rest by two spaces before and after the couplet. is that doable? f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: spacing before/after group of paragraphs.
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, Brian Barker wrote: At 17:54 02/09/2019 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: it's easy to set up a style to indent a paragraph with two line spaces separating it from the rest of the text fore and aft. I'm sorry to have to disappoint you but, although OpenOffice is available for a range of operating systems, it is not available for Typewriter, which you appear to use. It's only when using a typewriter that you space paragraphs by "lines", of course: in a word processor you are not restricted to lines and so set paragraph spacing simply by distance. cute remarks (including 'archaic need' below). gotta get the word out to OpenOffice too since the dialogue, 'Indents & Spacing', refers to 'line spacing' - perhaps it is a typewriter! thank you for the substance of your remarks, but I'm not sure they help. I think I haven't described my problem adequately. I can make a 'style' which indents a paragraph say .03" left and right and say .08" above and below. I call this 'text-indent' and when the authors in the volume have extended quotations, I can format them with a click on the style. but in some cases the quotations themselves comprise two paragraphs. I don't want the two paragraphs separated from each other by .08". I was asking is there a way of making a style which separates two paragraphs from the surrounding text but not from each other. I suspect not. ok if not; I'll have to do it by hand. suppose I want a style that will keep two paragraphs together, separated by one line but separated from the rest by two spaces before and after the couplet. is that doable? o It's a bit messy (though it satisfies your archaic need to think in lines), but you could separate the two blocks of text by two successive line breaks (Shift+Enter) instead of a paragraph break. You could still adjust the vertical spacing by changing the font size in the intervening empty line. The two blocks would then actually constitute a single paragraph, of course. I know I can do the work by hand. but I wanted to encapsulate it in a style. o Alternatively, you could apply local paragraph formatting to the pair of paragraphs (or probably just one of them), to override the paragraph style formatting. o Here's an idea. Put your pair of paragraphs into a single table cell (one column, one row). (You won't want a table border.) Apply a different paragraph style (perhaps Table Contents?) to your pair of paragraphs, with smaller spacing (one "line"). Then also set spacing after the table to make up the necessary difference between the pair of paragraphs and the following material (the other of your two "lines"). in the present text there are only a couple of instances where I want do this kind of indentation but the table solution would be unwieldly even then, and prohibitive in papers with more instances. I trust this helps. thank you for the ideas! f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: spacing before/after group of paragraphs.
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, Beregond, Anders Stenström wrote: Den 2019-09-03 kl. 19:14, skrev Felmon Davis: I can make a 'style' which indents a paragraph say .03" left and right and say .08" above and below. I call this 'text-indent' and when the authors in the volume have extended quotations, I can format them with a click on the style. but in some cases the quotations themselves comprise two paragraphs. I don't want the two paragraphs separated from each other by .08". I was asking is there a way of making a style which separates two paragraphs from the surrounding text but not from each other. I suspect not. I have the same situation. What I have done is to define four styles: 1) 'block quote' which has spacing above and below, 2) 'block quote start' which has spacing above but not below, 3) 'block quote end' which has spacing below but not above, and 4) 'block quote middle' with spacing neither above nor below. Then I can use 'block quote' for single-paragraph quotations, combine 'block quote start' and 'block quote end' for two-paragraph quotations, and combine 'block quote start', 'block quote middle' and 'block quote end' for quotations with more paragraphs than two. I want to thank everyone for the very good advice. I think I see a theme: a kind of linking of styles. this hadn't occurred to me as I was caught in the model of 'select whole text (= both paragraphs) and click on style'. the style linking requires more clickery than that - one invokes two or more different styles - but it still saves a lot of effort and error. haven't tried anything yet so don't know what I favor; back to work later this evening. very useful! f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: spacing before/after group of paragraphs.
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019, Beregond, Anders Stenström wrote: Den 2019-09-03 kl. 19:14, skrev Felmon Davis: I can make a 'style' which indents a paragraph say .03" left and right and say .08" above and below. I call this 'text-indent' and when the authors in the volume have extended quotations, I can format them with a click on the style. but in some cases the quotations themselves comprise two paragraphs. I don't want the two paragraphs separated from each other by .08". I was asking is there a way of making a style which separates two paragraphs from the surrounding text but not from each other. I suspect not. I have the same situation. What I have done is to define four styles: 1) 'block quote' which has spacing above and below, 2) 'block quote start' which has spacing above but not below, 3) 'block quote end' which has spacing below but not above, and 4) 'block quote middle' with spacing neither above nor below. Then I can use 'block quote' for single-paragraph quotations, combine 'block quote start' and 'block quote end' for two-paragraph quotations, and combine 'block quote start', 'block quote middle' and 'block quote end' for quotations with more paragraphs than two. Hope this helps, Anders Stenström I haven't compared your solution to the others though I believe the strategies are similar for the most part. I have tried yours and it seems to work well. some authors compose simple arguments, two premises and a conclusion, and this technique works well with more than two 'paragraphs', in this case, two premises and a conclusion - everything neatly tucked together but as a unit separate from the surrounding text. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
cannot insert fields
greetings! I'm trying to help someone out on formatting their document; they posted earlier to the list. it's the strangest thing. any attempt to insert 'page number' or 'page count' yields a blank space. well, not completely blank. there is some kind of char but it appears only as a grey area. I have tried changing fonts and I also have made a template of the doc and then generated a new one. no change. I have changed the language from Canadian English to American. the other major fields such as 'date' and so on work. I would guess some kind of corruption somewhere but maybe someone has a better notion. I'd hate to have to reconstruct the document from ground up. I'm willing to fool around with xml or whatever if needed. I'm on OpenOffice 4.1.6. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: cannot insert fields [SOLVED]
On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:33 22/02/2020 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: I'm trying to help someone out on formatting their document; they posted earlier to the list. Is this Teresa Brown? yes. now deleting some text to get to your solutions; the second solution worked! you wrote: The grey area is the required field, of course. So you have the field but it is failing to display the required value. You could confirm this by toggling the display to field names at View | Field Names (or Ctrl+F9). yeah, I found that this is true: the field names appear. Method I: o Go to Insert | Manual Break... . o In the Insert Break dialogue, select "Page break". o Select an appropriate style (even if it does not change). o Select "Change page number" and choose the starting page number. Method II: o Either select the relevant field or position the cursor just to the left of it. o Go to Edit | Fields... (or right-click | Fields...). o For Page numbers, set a suitable value for Offset. Method I had no effect but but Method II did the job! Now Method I seems to work for me, but Method II not always. In particular, if the page number is greater than the actual number of pages in the document it will not display. And negative page numbers will not display. In those cases the field will show as a grey bock but with no number - exactly what you describe. I'm not sure about page count, but I suspect the problem is similar. it worked for page count also. I trust this helps. very much so! thank you! but we are not out of the woods yet. page count for arabic numerals is to start at page 17, ok fine. however now the preceding pages have numbers. I will have to remove them. maybe sections will work or page styles; there are no section now. in addition some of them will a (one) roman numeral, non-consecutive, the rest will be unnumbered, I'll finesse that by just typing in the numerals. will see how it goes but may be back for more advice. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: cannot insert fields
On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 14:33:46 -0500 (EST) Felmon Davis wrote: greetings! I'm trying to help someone out on formatting their document; they posted earlier to the list. it's the strangest thing. any attempt to insert 'page number' or 'page count' yields a blank space. well, not completely blank. there is some kind of char but it appears only as a grey area. I have tried changing fonts and I also have made a template of the doc and then generated a new one. no change. I have changed the language from Canadian English to American. the other major fields such as 'date' and so on work. I would guess some kind of corruption somewhere but maybe someone has a better notion. I'd hate to have to reconstruct the document from ground up. I'm willing to fool around with xml or whatever if needed. I'm on OpenOffice 4.1.6. f. -- Felmon Davis Do the other fields appear on a grey background? If so, this is non-printing, but can be suppressed by toggling /View /Field Shadings. If you turn on /View /Field names, does the page number field show "Page Numbers"? this worked but you may have seen my reply to Brian Barker; one of his methods solved the present problem. If you turn on the Stylist (F11), and enable "All Styles" in the dropdown on Stylist's bottom bar, are there many styles WW... and Convert..., which indicate that the file has been Saved in MS document formats and or edited by MS Word. just btw this is all OpenOffice, no touch of Word. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: cannot insert fields
On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:11:36 -0500 (EST) Felmon Davis wrote: [...] just btw this is all OpenOffice, no touch of Word. f. Files which have been saved in MS Word formats, or edited by MS Word, can show peculiarities when brought back to OpenOffice; that is why I asked. right, I have experienced this. For help with pagenumbering read https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=1221 Use the methods set out in that Tutorial to restart numbering after a Page Style change; do not use Page Offset. good reference! -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
more field fun.
great help! through some trickery with 'manual breaks' and 'page styles' I have almost everything in shape. however - imagine you have ten consecutive pages all without footer and unnumbered except for pages 3, 5 and 7; on those pages you want a footer and you want a roman numeral, for instance ix on page 3, xi on page 5 and xiii on page 7. inserting a number generates the same numeral on each page. ah, I guess the trick is to do a different page style for 3, 5 and 7. need a break; will pursue this strategy later unless there's a better idea. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: more field fun.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: I do not have time to look deeply into this, but, I do believe that you can have differnet behavior for left / right pages for a page style. I think they talk about it here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/FormattingPagesAndDocuments/How_do_I_make_page_numbers_alternate%3F I will have a look later but note the pages were random, I should have used a different set of numbers, page 2, page 5 and page 10 say. I do notice, however, tha tyou say "page 3" is numbered as xi (11), so you would need to make sure that the real page number is correct if you rely on that to generate the number. it's the automatic generation of a number I need to avoid. I need to insert the numbers somehow by hand. f. On Saturday, February 22, 2020 17:33 EST, Felmon Davis wrote: great help! through some trickery with 'manual breaks' and 'page styles' I have almost everything in shape. however - imagine you have ten consecutive pages all without footer and unnumbered except for pages 3, 5 and 7; on those pages you want a footer and you want a roman numeral, for instance ix on page 3, xi on page 5 and xiii on page 7. inserting a number generates the same numeral on each page. ah, I guess the trick is to do a different page style for 3, 5 and 7. need a break; will pursue this strategy later unless there's a better idea. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: more field fun.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Brian Barker wrote: At 17:33 22/02/2020 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: imagine you have ten consecutive pages all without footer and unnumbered except for pages 3, 5 and 7; on those pages you want a footer and you want a roman numeral, for instance ix on page 3, xi on page 5 and xiii on page 7. inserting a number generates the same numeral on each page. ah, I guess the trick is to do a different page style for 3, 5 and 7. The usefulness of automatic page numbering, of course, is that you can modify the text or layout of the document with the page numbers being preserved and updating appropriately and not being displaced. If you need such a random collection of numbers and the document is at a late stage of preparation - when changes to the text are less likely - it may be simpler just to position manual page numbers where the footer would be, without having any footer. If you need a footer for other information on such pages but want page numbers only on some, you can still do this. Create a Frame to contain the required page number (it doesn't need to have any border) and ensure that it is anchored To Page. Position the frame in the footer where is needs to appear. Because it is anchored to the page, not to anything within the footer, it will not be repeated within the footer on other pages. The second technique is also more robust to changes in paper size, margins, and so on, as well as to font substitution on a foreign system. I trust this helps. very much so! I will try out some of this when I return to the task tonight or tomorrow. I think I favor the 'frame' approach, basically just sort of 'paint' the footer in. these numerals do not need to be automatically updated; quite the contrary, they must be static. (perhaps I should ask them why. maybe there's a better way to achieve their goals but I don't have time to dig too deep.) again, thank you. I'll report back. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: more field fun.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Rory O'Farrell wrote: [...] The automatic page numbering will appear static if no pages are inserted before or between them. understand. If the perception is that "static" page numbers are needed because of references from other locations in the document, there are automatic ways of doing this, where the references update when (if) the page numbers change. I haven't explored the reasons the author wants just to have those Roman numerals plugged in like that (no automatic updating). there may be some better way for them to achieve whatever their purpose is but my goal was to produce the document according to their description. I was just trying to do a favor but in the course of it I've learned some valuable wrinkles. I haven't yet implemented any of the solutions for the roman numeral pages; will get to that sometime today. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: more field fun.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Brian Barker wrote: At 17:33 22/02/2020 -0500, Felmon Davis wrote: imagine you have ten consecutive pages all without footer and unnumbered except for pages 3, 5 and 7; on those pages you want a footer and you want a roman numeral, for instance ix on page 3, xi on page 5 and xiii on page 7. inserting a number generates the same numeral on each page. ah, I guess the trick is to do a different page style for 3, 5 and 7. The usefulness of automatic page numbering, of course, is that you can modify the text or layout of the document with the page numbers being preserved and updating appropriately and not being displaced. If you need such a random collection of numbers and the document is at a late stage of preparation - when changes to the text are less likely - it may be simpler just to position manual page numbers where the footer would be, without having any footer. If you need a footer for other information on such pages but want page numbers only on some, you can still do this. Create a Frame to contain the required page number (it doesn't need to have any border) and ensure that it is anchored To Page. Position the frame in the footer where is needs to appear. Because it is anchored to the page, not to anything within the footer, it will not be repeated within the footer on other pages. The second technique is also more robust to changes in paper size, margins, and so on, as well as to font substitution on a foreign system. to report: I believe your solutions are probably in better accord with the "principle of simplicity" than what I chose but I hadn't realized the power of the 'manual page-break' function before and got fascinated. I made three page styles, 'Roman ix', 'Roman xi' and 'Roman xiii' each with a footer but with the corresponding Roman numeral (but not as a 'field'). on reflection it probably would have sufficed to make one such page. I believe the author is satisfied, and I learned some valuable tricks thanks to you, Rory and Andrew; much appreciated! f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Help with document
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020, Bella Dowthwaite wrote: Hello, I am an Open Office user and am having a big issue with a document. I downloaded a template for university studies, filled it in, and then when I closed it and re-opened it (I had already saved it as is) a whole column in the template had disappeared, full of my written work. I downloaded the template and filled in the column again on a new document, but when I closed it again and reopened it the same thing has happened. A whole column of writing had disappears and I cannot find it anywhere. people are getting ready to help you, and need some more information. I would also ask how you installed the template? and yes, could we see this template (provide the url or website address). you are not trying to type stuff into the template itself, are you? I have lost a lot of work and am very concerned. Please let me know how to resolve this. Call on ... this is a list of users - good people - but it's still not a good idea to make your phone number public. f. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Option to Google Products
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, Julian THOMAS wrote: AOO is a good choice for a mac [there's no iOS app] but in both Macos and iOS you have the included free apps pages, keynote, and numbers. Not sure what you mean by 'an option to google products'. he means 'alternative to'. fjd -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: help from Birgitta
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020, birgitta wrote: Hello I am in an English group and can open that tutorial only to step 6 it is in several steps it has never happened before how do i do it Has windows 10 external computer with large hard drive My name is Birgitta Strömberg are from Sweden Hugs Birgitta :) Help a bit hard to understand. what 'tutorial'? please give a link. we'll start with that. f. -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: ODP: Apache open office 4.1.7
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 000340019D24E92F Microsoft wrote: Do you really checked out Everything on your machine (System’s device drivers) and the peripheral device (Printer: e.g. the status of ink in the printer or the condition of the laser head (depending on the type))? also page size: my US printer refuses A4; my EU printer refuses Letter. fjd Od: Carol Russell Wysłano: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM Do: users@openoffice.apache.org Temat: Apache open office 4.1.7 open office will not print out information to my printer. Printer will only print out blank sheet. I have cheked out everything before e-mailing you. Please respond, I use this site on a daily bases. Respectively Yours Carol Russell -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: ODP: Apache open office 4.1.7
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 03:11:54 +0200 (CEST) Felmon Davis wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, 000340019D24E92F Microsoft wrote: Do you really checked out Everything on your machine (System’s device drivers) and the peripheral device (Printer: e.g. the status of ink in the printer or the condition of the laser head (depending on the type))? also page size: my US printer refuses A4; my EU printer refuses Letter. fjd There are two settings to be considered: setting the Page size in OpenOffice (/Format /Page), but also a setting for the Printer. In OpenOffice /File /Print there is a Properties button (on a Mac, one may need to have selected to use OpenOffice Printer dialogs). Selecting the Properties button on the /File /Print window allows one to select the Paper size the printer will use. This is the size of the sheet of paper the printer will expect in its paper tray, and on which it will attempt to print the Page size selected in OpenOffice. yeah but this hasn't worked on my printers. probably must do a deeper dive. the EU printer is an HP MFP M281fdw, the US printer is not at hand right now but is a Brother model, both laser. nothing I need to fix. hoping the OP gets their solution. fjd I have five printers available on my house network, and every one will accept both A4 and Letter when this Properties setting is adjusted. Od: Carol Russell Wysłano: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:27 AM Do: users@openoffice.apache.org Temat: Apache open office 4.1.7 open office will not print out information to my printer. Printer will only print out blank sheet. I have cheked out everything before e-mailing you. Please respond, I use this site on a daily bases. Respectively Yours Carol Russell -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Feedback
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Gilles Lecerf wrote: Hey Apache, I was really happy to download Apache and use it as a replacement of Pages and/or Word. It was HORRIBLE. Really, I got mad. I'm sorry but it is not possible that the interface is so difficult to use. I tried for an hour to create templates for the style of my document and nothing worked. When I tried to make modifications in a style, it did not modify the text. When I tried to erase the pre-programmed styles it was not possible (there are 10 "titles" format, seriously who need 10 titles format and of course the number 10 is betwenn 1 and 2, very convenient...) Basic things are impossible to do with your interface i'm sorry. How can you help ??! You've written to a list of users of the software, it is not 'ours'. but some of us can help. I have a couple of templates I use, it's not hard but the trick is to familiarize yourself with the software. have you tried looking at <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Calc_Guide/Creating_editing_template>? This may clarify matters or anyway get you in place to narrow down your questions. Complex software is usually confusing on first acquaintance, then it becomes second-nature. fjd -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Backup
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Martin Groenescheij wrote: On 02/12/2020 00:42, Кирилл wrote: JUST MAKE BACKUPS ENABLE BY DEFAULT!! Why do you sent this to users who haven't any authority on the development process? And don't SCREAM it doesn't solve your problem. absolutely right. and Kirill, you can set it as a default by going to Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> General; you'll see some options under 'Save'. I do 'Save AutoRecovery' every 15 minutes. oops! maybe screaming did solve your problem! fjd -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Backup
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:43 02/12/2020 +0100, Felmon Davis wrote: On 02/12/2020 00:42, Kirill Noname wrote: JUST MAKE BACKUPS ENABLE BY DEFAULT! [...] and Kirill, you can set it as a default by going to Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> General; you'll see some options under 'Save'. I do 'Save AutoRecovery' every 15 minutes. It's perhaps worth distinguishing two things here: quite right. o The AutoRecovery information controlled by that option is used only if the editing session is terminated abnormally - as for a power outage or system crash - without current changes having been saved. In that case, an offer to attempt to recover the previous editing session is made next time OpenOffice is started. In normal working, this leaves no trace after changes to the document have been saved or discarded, i.e. no back-up copy. o Additionally, you will see "Always create a backup copy" in the same group of options. Ticking this ensures that every time you save a document, the previous version is saved in the folder indicated by the Backups path. The use case of this is when you might decide, after saving changes to a document, that you reconsider your changes and wish to abandon them and return to your previous version. (And neither of these are a replacement for a proper back-up regime, of course.) very true; I wasn't thinking clearly about 'back-up'. Auto-Recovery has been enough for my purposes. sorry to confuse the issue though. f. -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Can't open a story I wrote -help!
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, Loretta Chardin wrote: I wrote a story in pdf and saved it in Apache Open Office and when I try to open it I just get a bunch of symbols. This hasn’t happened with other stories. Please help, thanks! Loretta To my knowledge OpenOffice doesn't read pdf's. you need a pdf reader. sometimes your browser will do it, Firefox does; trick is to point the browser to the file. Don't know if you are using Windows or something else but there are plenty of free pdf readers. You probably 'exported' your story to pdf while you actually 'saved' your other tales in OpenOffice format (.ods). fjd -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Can't open a story I wrote -help!
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, Loretta Chardin wrote: Thanks so much. I installed pdf reader, but (I'm not computer savvy). I don't know what to do next, Please advise step by step. Thanks again, Loretta I or someone else may be able to help more specifically but you have omitted some details: what is the name of this 'pdf reader' and are you using Windows 10 or something else? I wonder how you "wrote a story in pdf" but anyway, the main thing is we assume the pdf is the only copy you have. f. On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 4:56 AM Felmon Davis wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, Loretta Chardin wrote: I wrote a story in pdf and saved it in Apache Open Office and when I try to open it I just get a bunch of symbols. This hasn’t happened with other stories. Please help, thanks! Loretta To my knowledge OpenOffice doesn't read pdf's. you need a pdf reader. sometimes your browser will do it, Firefox does; trick is to point the browser to the file. Don't know if you are using Windows or something else but there are plenty of free pdf readers. You probably 'exported' your story to pdf while you actually 'saved' your other tales in OpenOffice format (.ods). fjd -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
capitals in German
Greets! I'm not easy with the German system of capitalization; if I write something without capitalizing the nouns, is there a way to run a spell-checker or something which will do that? I installed dict-de_de-igerman98_2011-06-21.oxt into OpenOffice 4.1.8 and selected "Tools/Language/For all text/German" and note that "Options/Language Settings/Language" has German as default for documents. however spell-check breezes through without touching the document. (a) maybe there was an error in the way I installed the template? (b) suppose it worked, would it flag nouns without capitals? appreciated! fjd -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: capitals in German
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Dan Lewis wrote: I think you have missed one very important step: the paragraph style for the paragraph in which the German language is used. It contains the control for which language is checked for spelling. Yours probably is one of the English languages depending upon what country in which you live. Change that setting to German. Also make sure the your selection contains an ABC before the name of the language. Dan I just took a look at the style and it says the language is German. next to "German (Germany)" I see a teeny 'ABC' with a check mark under it. so far then so good. f. On 2/15/21 7:41 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! I'm not easy with the German system of capitalization; if I write something without capitalizing the nouns, is there a way to run a spell-checker or something which will do that? I installed dict-de_de-igerman98_2011-06-21.oxt into OpenOffice 4.1.8 and selected "Tools/Language/For all text/German" and note that "Options/Language Settings/Language" has German as default for documents. however spell-check breezes through without touching the document. (a) maybe there was an error in the way I installed the template? (b) suppose it worked, would it flag nouns without capitals? appreciated! fjd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: capitals in German
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 08:54:58 -0500 Dan Lewis wrote: I think you have missed one very important step: the paragraph style for the paragraph in which the German language is used. It contains the control for which language is checked for spelling. Yours probably is one of the English languages depending upon what country in which you live. Change that setting to German. Also make sure the your selection contains an ABC before the name of the language. Dan It may also be that you will need to use a more sophisticated tool than OpenOffice provides. Consider checking if languagetool.org offer a version to handle German. this looks promising. ah, this seems to work! this will allow me to persist in my lazy English-language ways and still put out somewhat correct German-language text! thank you! f. On 2/15/21 7:41 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! I'm not easy with the German system of capitalization; if I write something without capitalizing the nouns, is there a way to run a spell-checker or something which will do that? I installed dict-de_de-igerman98_2011-06-21.oxt into OpenOffice 4.1.8 and selected "Tools/Language/For all text/German" and note that "Options/Language Settings/Language" has German as default for documents. however spell-check breezes through without touching the document. (a) maybe there was an error in the way I installed the template? (b) suppose it worked, would it flag nouns without capitals? appreciated! fjd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: capitals in German
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Dan Lewis wrote: But do you have the spell checker icon activated? It is the ABC with the red wavy line below it. It will be enclosed in a box if you do. I always keep this active. So, when I installed a German dictionary and set the paragraph style to German, it automatically marked misspelled words in German. For example, I typed, mench. It first corrected that mensch then flagging that as misspelled. The final correction was to Mensch. (This is the Austria dictionary. that's sweet but it doesn't seem to work here. I see the ABC-checkmark in the paragraph style and it also appears on the main menu next to "Spelling and Grammar". however now the situation is dirty since I installed the LanguageTool extension (as recommended by Rory) which may have changed things. in a leisure moment I will uninstall it and look again to see if I can do it without LanguageTool. for simplicity's sake that would be my preference. f. On 2/15/21 10:16 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Dan Lewis wrote: I think you have missed one very important step: the paragraph style for the paragraph in which the German language is used. It contains the control for which language is checked for spelling. Yours probably is one of the English languages depending upon what country in which you live. Change that setting to German. Also make sure the your selection contains an ABC before the name of the language. Dan I just took a look at the style and it says the language is German. next to "German (Germany)" I see a teeny 'ABC' with a check mark under it. so far then so good. f. On 2/15/21 7:41 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! I'm not easy with the German system of capitalization; if I write something without capitalizing the nouns, is there a way to run a spell-checker or something which will do that? I installed dict-de_de-igerman98_2011-06-21.oxt into OpenOffice 4.1.8 and selected "Tools/Language/For all text/German" and note that "Options/Language Settings/Language" has German as default for documents. however spell-check breezes through without touching the document. (a) maybe there was an error in the way I installed the template? (b) suppose it worked, would it flag nouns without capitals? appreciated! fjd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [AOO-Templates]
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, Crystal Willis wrote: I want to cancel please confirm cancellation if you mean from this list, instructions at bottom of emails: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Freezing a row
On Sat, 5 Mar 2022, Rob Howe wrote: Is there a way to freeze a row so stays when you scroll? Thank you. Select row below row you want to freeze. Under 'Window' select 'Freeze'. Freeze -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Horizontal double lines
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, Alan Cliffe wrote: I have a Writer document in which I marked off separations between passages with asterisks. Somehow the lines of asterisks turned into horizontal double lines across the page, the top line thicker than the bottom, and I cannot delete them. I have tried copying and pasting text from the document into a new document, without copying the lines, but they just reappear in the new document. I'd appreciate someone's help on this one. just had something similar. try going to paragraph formatting and make sure the 'borders' are turned off. fjd -- Davis Verbum sat sapienti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Printer Offline
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Re: The big balagan...
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Brian Barker wrote: At 00:28 22/02/2013 -0600, Jonly Bonly wrote: On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:09:55 + Brian Barker wrote: At 13:44 21/02/2013 -0600, Jonly Bonly wrote: Because of the major foul-up of a couple of list members today by sending out the complete addresses of everyone in the 'To' field, ... "Everyone"? You seem to think that the visible addresses had something to do with the membership of this mailing list. Oh good grief. You know exactly what was meant, you're just acting childish. That's a quite silly claim - and quite wrong, of course. What you said suggested that you thought the publicised addresses had something to do with the list. I also 'misunderstood' the meaning. it is indeed very difficult to read minds. this was compounded in my case also by the question about setting email clients to bcc; it suggested a poster who was naive about the medium they are working in - email client vs mailing list or something. anyway, we got all of this straight now. time to move on, right? I do note a lot of people seem unfamiliar with bcc; this kind of error happens alot. F. Another reply to your message said "PLEASE keep the list secure", implying its author had interpreted your message similarly. No doubt others did, too. (Advertising other addresses on the list is bad practice and uses the list inappropriately, but does not represent an insecurity of the list itself.) I'd meant to ask that in the list of the mail client I use. Simply got carried away and forgot that I was still in the AOo list. Perhaps it's not surprising that I (and others) were confused, then! Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis where am I and what am I doing in this handbasket? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Anleitung - Erstellung von Präsentationen
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Andrea Cataffo wrote:
Wie kannst du es wagen, mir diese E-Mail Werbung in Ihrer Sprache, weiß ich
nicht (wie man aus der Antwort sehen kann) Bitte nicht brechen mehrere
Felder.
Danke!
not an 'advertisement' ('werbung') but request for help and perfectly
appropriate except in the wrong language like your post also.
F.
2013/3/25 vill...@t-online.de
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
ich bin gerade dabei, mich mit dem PC vertraut zu machen und komme
auch schon ganz gut damit klar. Bei Texten und Tabellen benutze ich
die Einrichtung "Works" und möchte auch dabei bleiben, denn dieses
Programm genügt mir für meinen "Hausgebrauch".
Mich interessiert aber die Gestaltung von Präsentationen - nicht
über den Bildschirm, sondern nur zum Ausdrucken . Beim "googeln" fand
ich ein kostenloses Downloading von OpenOffice, so dass ich nun das
Programm "Apache OpenOffice 3" auf meinem PC habe. Das Angebot des
schnellen Einstiegpaketes habe ich nicht genutzt, denn als ich auf
"gratis" geklickt habe, erschien ein Feld zur Eingabe meiner Daten und
danach müsste ich dieses Paket für ca. 30,00 € + Versandkosten
kaufen, was ich nicht möchte.
Da mich aus dem Programm eigentlich nur der Punkt "Präsentation"
interessiert, frage ich hiermit an, ob ich nicht nur eine einfache
für mich leicht verständliche Schritt-für-Schritt-Anleitung für
diesen Teil erhalten könnte, möglichst auch eine Version zum
kostenlosen Downloaden.
Für Ihre Bemühungen und Hilfe bedanke ich mich im voraus und
verbleibe
mit freundlichen Grüßen
Hannelore Nothnick
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Re: Zooming in
On Wed, 8 May 2013, Dale Erwin wrote: I have the same problem. It used to be much worse, but I found a setting in the mouse/touchpad driver that disables the touchpad whenever another pointing device is plugged in. After bootup is complete, I now get a message on my desktop that the touchpad has been disabled. However, the mouse still does not behave very well. I can sit back and take my hands off the computer altogether and watch the cursor dance around all over the screen. Sometimes it's worse than at others, but it always does a little dancing. It's especially annoying when trying to place the pointer on a certain place and before I can click it moves away all on its own so I back it up and it jumps again. Sometimes it makes me want to scream. Mine's a Dell with Win 7 Home Prem. you don't say if you have researched the issue. I took a quick look online and one possibility among several is a driver conflict. another is a need for an updated driver (to be downloaded from the input manufacturer's website). were it me, I'd first update the drivers and see; then I'd go to device manager and stop a driver (e.g. wifi) and see what happens and repeat systematically to see if anything helps. but guess this is off-topic for this list; sure hope you find a solution. I wouldn't live with the situation. here is the first link I found on the matter <http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/51501-cursor-jumps-all-over-screen-3.html> (interestingly one person found it was a charger issue!) you might also search for the problem referencing your specific laptop model. probably others with the same problem and a fix. F. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 5/7/2013 9:07 PM, Patricia Hickin wrote: My computer zooms in on OpenOffice (and other) screens without my telling it to. (I have a laptop with touchpad). I know it has something to do with the way I'm using my fingers on the touchpad but I can't quite figure out how to avoid it. Is there any way I can disable this feature? It drives me crazy. (It happens with other programs too.) Thanks, Pat - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis F u cn rd ths u cnt spl wrth a dm! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Being Good, was: RE: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets--another commentary
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, Think wrote: And again, we have the concept of "ad hominem." Attacking me voids your argument. This is not about me. This is about the behavior of those who post on this listserv. minor correction: attacking a person does not void an argument. suppose I say, "p implies q, q implies r, therefore p implies r, you fool!" the argument is valid (not 'void') but I have also attacked a person. an 'ad hominem argument' is the fallacy of attempting to invalidate a position because of some feature of the person holding the argument, "ah, you only say that because you're a republican!" is an ad hominem fallacy. impoliteness does not 'void' arguments. F. -- Felmon Davis I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion.
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Brian Barker wrote:
[...]
Have you ever been asked to double-space a document? Probably. Has anyone
ever asked you instead to set double spacing at the beginning of the document
and then turn it off at the end? Of course not: that's not how people think
and speak!
[sorry for snipping so much context!]
I probably don't grasp your idea here but there's nothing unhuman
about being asked to set double-spacing from one spot in a document to
another (or more plausibly, to indent "from here to there").
of course this is a very good use for styles. I use both styles and
direct formatting ('like a typewriter') according to my needs and
purposes though since 'default formatting' is itself a 'style', I
guess one always uses styles.
not directed at you specifically but I see no need to be dogmatic; I'm
happy enough with using these tools to fit my needs but I definitely
would love it if 'reveal codes' were possible as I've run across
situations where there's a bit of code 'stuck' somewhere doing devilry
and it's hard to find. cutting and pasting in again without formatting
is clumsy.
F.
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Re: Abus et escroquerie sur site SMS pour l'obtention de code de téléchargement
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Baccara wrote: mt wrote: Hello Baccara, On 3/7/14 at 9:33 AM, bbacc...@tstonramp.com (Baccara) wrote: ... Wonderful solution, Rory, **snip ** Have you thought of using the Delete key for messages you are not interested in? This has proven to be the safest solution on every public mailing (discussion) list. HTH, marina marina, you took the time to contact me personally. My question to you, how do I determine if I am interested or not when only the question was answered in English. I think I can help here! either use google-translate or similar, or wait for someone to chime in who does understand the question and translates it. How nice you think so highly of my request for respect to be shown for the English speaking members of the mailing list. I didn't feel disrespected by someone writing in French. not all English speakers take umbrage when someone writes in their own language. Lastly, why are you wasting my time contacting me personally when you obviously didn't understand my comment. the mail list software automatically sends email both to the list and to the OP (original poster). some try to remember to remove them but even then sometimes one forgets or doesn't notice. F. -- Felmon Davis I have no doubt the Devil grins, As seas of ink I spatter. Ye gods, forgive my "literary" sins-- The other kind don't matter. -- Robert W. Service - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
table of content problem.
greets! I am trying to generate a table of contents for a document which is a compilation of papers written by several authors. the papers are usually written in .doc or .docx file format. I have done this task often before. however, this time the TOC generates correct entries for the first two papers: title blah, blah, page # author affiliation but whether I copy and paste or use insert from a .doc/.docx file or one converted to .odt, the third entry includes the whole paper! (and so on for the subsequent others.) I can obviously write the TOC by hand but automatic generation is better for obvious reasons but I can't figure out what accounts for the failure or, much more important, how to work around it. (I have not tried the route of making a 'master document' and would prefer to avoid it.) F. -- Felmon Davis I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Hebräisches und Jiddisches Alphabet für OpenOffice: Bitte um Hilfe
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, salo...@klaczko.de wrote: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich verwende in ein Paar Arbeiten Zitate von Texten in Hebräisch und in Jiddisch. Leider bitten Sie dieses Alphabet nicht an. Ich würde gerne von Word 2000 zu Openoffice übergehen, wenn ich die Option des hebräischen Alphabets hätte. Können Sie mir einen Vorschlag machen? Mit freundlichen Gruà Dr. Salomon Klaczko the OP wants to use quotations in Hebrew and Yiddish; can someone help him with language packs or whatever? F. -- Felmon Davis Peoples' opinions change, but the conviction of their correctness never does. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Hebräisches und Jiddisches Alphabet für OpenOffice: Bitte um Hilfe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:25:38AM -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, salo...@klaczko.de wrote: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, ich verwende in ein Paar Arbeiten Zitate von Texten in Hebräisch und in Jiddisch. Leider bitten Sie dieses Alphabet nicht an. Ich würde gerne von Word 2000 zu Openoffice übergehen, wenn ich die Option des hebräischen Alphabets hätte. Können Sie mir einen Vorschlag machen? Mit freundlichen Gruà Dr. Salomon Klaczko the OP wants to use quotations in Hebrew and Yiddish; can someone help him with language packs or whatever? Hebrew and Yiddish share the same alphabet: Hebrew. more to the point, Brian Barker has responded to the OP off-list with suggestions about how to do right-left composition, etc. F. -- Felmon Davis All who joy would win Must share it -- Happiness was born a twin. -- Lord Byron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[OT] why so many accidental subscriptions?
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Alexandro Colorado wrote: You can cancel your subscriptions emailing AND CONFIRMING to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org why are so many people "finding themselves" subscribed to this list? is there a subscription link on some webpage they accidentally click? F. -- Felmon Davis If at first you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [OT] why so many accidental subscriptions?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 26/08/2014 Felmon Davis wrote: why are so many people "finding themselves" subscribed to this list? is there a subscription link on some webpage they accidentally click? All subscriptions require opt-in (you send a request, receive a confirmation request and reply to it). So far, we tried different explanations but in the end the most plausible explanation, backed by what moderators see when helping people unsubscribe, is simply that some users are not very familiar with mailing lists of with the expected traffic (and often this is the only mailing list they subscribe to). Regards, Andrea. so according to this, people don't understand the idea of a "subscription" or "mailing list." alright. in addition, in their irritation, they fail to notice the instructions for cancelling. F. -- Felmon Davis I have seen the evidence... I want DIFFERENT evidence. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [OT] why so many accidental subscriptions?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Julian Thomas wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 13:27, TN Patriot wrote: If that's not clear enough, perhaps going back to school to learn reading comprehension all over. Before we get too harsh, we need to remember that we were all there in the past; we should be able to walk a mile in their shoes before passing judgement. actually though the sentiment is generous, I don't think it's true. but the people failing the 'unsubscribe test' are not necessarily 'illiterate' - likely they are otherwise competent folks. but they do seem 'computer-shy': computers make them panic or get upset and holler. I wager most writing to this thread never were quite this scared of computers. I still don't quite understand how they wandered into subscribing in the first place though. I'll force-content myself with Andrea's explanation. btw I sent myself an email and my signature does _not_ show up in gmail (using firefox). so some mail clients do obscure the signature. however, the signature for the list is not in proper signature anyway so it does show. F. -- Felmon Davis The greatest fool may ask more than the wisest man can answer. -- Colton - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [OT] why so many accidental subscriptions?
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote: At 01:55 27/08/2014 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote: so according to this, people don't understand the idea of a "subscription" or "mailing list." alright. in addition, in their irritation, they fail to notice the instructions for cancelling. If they don't understand the idea of a mailing list, surely it is self-evident that they will not realise they have joined anything and will have no way of understanding the concept of cancellation? sorry, the ellision made my point unclear; by "in addition" I meant "and -- assuming they understand the concept of 'subscription' -- another explanation is" F. -- Felmon Davis The world is in danger from two sources: Order and Disorder. -- Valery - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Lost info
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Rod Huxley wrote: THANKS ...WILL GIVE IT A TRY it will prob be an unusable mess but try making a copy of the file and changing the extension to .zip. put it in a directory somewhere and unzip it. rummage around in 'content.xml' and see if you can do anything with it. some find '' and replace with '\r' - putting a newline before table entries, might make some of it legible. I don't know how to use tools for editing xml but maybe there's some recourse there. if the zip is corrupt there are some things out there to try to fix 'em. grasping at straws F. > -Original Message- From: Alexandro Colorado Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Lost info That means that your file is corrupt. The best way to configure AOO under these circumstances is to enable the auto-save feature located on Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> General Reduce the minutes of saving, and also enable the option of: - Edit document properties before saving - Always save a backup copy This will ensure all your work is saved from the start and continually being saved every 3-5 minutes (depending on how much you reduce the autosave). This way your work will not be lost. On 11/16/14, Rod Huxley wrote: I have an Acer (all in one) desktop computer. Z5610. I was having trouble with continual instantaneous shutdowns. This I found was/is a problem with this unit, which I have now fixed. However, in one of these “shutdowns”, I lost all info on 2 spreadsheets that I was using. Now when I open these spreadsheets, a get a Grey Box stating : Text ….The name of my file Character Set UNICODE Default Language English (Australian). And so on When I click OK ...the Spreadsheet opens, but is TOTALLY blank. Question: How do/can I recover this information. Regards Rod Huxley --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Felmon Davis Muddy water let stand becomes clear. -- Lao Tse - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
docx files cause crashes.
greets! I get with increasing frequency docx files which cause OO to crash. I end up having to open them via google-docs and then save as odt. I'm on Apache OO 4.0.0 using Debian Wheezy with a variant of KDE3 (Trinity Desktop). I always open by using the 'File' menu tab. I don't recall if I can attach a file to this list but not sure I want to broadcast the contents all over the list even though I have permission and it's not confidential material. I can put one of them on google-drive and give a password to anyone who's curious and eager to help. or is there some general advice? I first noticed this phenomenon sometime in Spring from one correspondent, now I have two where this phenomenon occurs. I know that at least one, and probably all, use Pages in the Mac and the one I know says she uses the 'export' function of Pages. F. -- Felmon Davis It is your concern when your neighbor's wall is on fire. -- Horace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: docx files cause crashes.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014, Martin Groenescheij wrote: OO 4.1.1 it solved issues with docx files I have no idea if it solved your problem, but I suggest to try this first. makes sense though I'm a bit scared to tear too much up right now. I'll look for some instructions on installing them side-by-side. F. On 3-12-2014 8:59, Felmon Davis wrote: greets! I get with increasing frequency docx files which cause OO to crash. I end up having to open them via google-docs and then save as odt. I'm on Apache OO 4.0.0 using Debian Wheezy with a variant of KDE3 (Trinity Desktop). I always open by using the 'File' menu tab. I don't recall if I can attach a file to this list but not sure I want to broadcast the contents all over the list even though I have permission and it's not confidential material. I can put one of them on google-drive and give a password to anyone who's curious and eager to help. or is there some general advice? I first noticed this phenomenon sometime in Spring from one correspondent, now I have two where this phenomenon occurs. I know that at least one, and probably all, use Pages in the Mac and the one I know says she uses the 'export' function of Pages. F. -- Felmon Davis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Schriftenfamilie DejaVu-Fonts
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014, Heiko Kirsch wrote: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, bitte teilen Sie mir mit, ob die Schriftenfamilie "DejaVu-Fonts" im Apache OpenOffice Installationspaket standardmäßig enthalten ist. Ich freue mich auf Ihre Antwort. as far as I can tell, dejavu-fonts are included (die sind standardmässig). this list is mostly English-speaking. (die liste ist Englisch-sprachig.) F. -- Felmon Davis For courage mounteth with occasion. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!
On Sun, 10 May 2015, elderdanlewis wrote: Why don't I believe you? Perhaps it is because I have been using this product since Star Office became available. I have used OpenOffice.org from version 1.0 to 3.3. I even used it to help write documentation for it. ( Writer) I have used a spreadsheet to keep track of my finances. Considering the number of linked sheets in it, I would never recommend anyone try this on a smart phone. I have also written an autobiography part that contains 83000 plus words and pics. Another contains 57000 plus words. Could I have done this with the early versions of OOo? No. The present versions have many more features than the earlier ones. Perhaps you have not taken the time to learn what the program can do. I am also helping a lady to write a document for her bridge group. It contains text, pics, bullets, and different heading levels. We are not having any problems doing it. So, seriously, what is your real problem? Dan haven't read every single line of the jeremiad but I bet the OP has some template set up unbeknownst to her which is causing her problems; I doubt she knows about templates. f. -- Felmon Davis Dibble's First Law of Sociology: Some do, some don't. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!
On Sun, 10 May 2015, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2015-05-10 19:17 GMT+02:00 Doug : [ content snipped ] Have you looked at PCLinuxOS, Johnny? Yes I have, but it was some years ago. It's pretty conservative, and it doesn't have systemd, thank heavens! It also has a really helpful Forum. Now pay me, Tex! (Just kidding--the endorsement is completely free!) Well, I'm not necessarily looking for conservative, I just want it to be easy to do simple tasks. When I first installed the operating system I have now, I was quite impressed. It was like ”wow, it works like I think an operating system should work”. I can actually do things with this. The next version was even better and for every new version there were some nice improvements, but since 2011 it has been the other way around. Now, almost most of the things that I liked from the beginning are gone. Things that was simple to perform is still possible to do, but it's very much more complicated. Some things I didn't even figure out yet. I saw some tutorials and I tried them, but they simply didn't work… But all this is somewhat OFF TOPIC, maybe there are better places to discus it… Johnny Rosenberg you might have a look at Trinity Desktop based on Debian. I suppose it counts as 'conservative' as it stays close to kde3 but it's 'simple' to use or anyway doesn't go for splash. I like it. f. -- Felmon Davis Mother is far too clever to understand anything she does not like. -- Bennett - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the "Joe 6-Pack" word processor user
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, John Hart wrote: On 6/26/2015 1:12 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 6/26/2015 11:37 AM, Doug wrote: However, if there were to be a means of exiting the strait-jacket for a short space--a line or the end of a paragraph, say, or until one deliberately returns to the style, then it might become a more user-friendly environment. A reasonable suggestion not reasonable at all from my point of view. I have to edit a collection of essays once a yr. styles are invaluable. if hitting a line return changed styles, the work would be very difficult. suppose I have a long quotation with indents and containing several paragraphs. I want the line returns to preserve formatting. if I want to drop out of a style I either change the style (some of them I have tied to key combinations) or hit 'clear formatting.' You've already told us that you do not intend to learn styles. There is no need to give us more proof that you don't know how to use them. Followed by an /ad hominem response well, wrong tone, we should be civil, but ...; well, anyway, what I'd like to know since I never did more elaborate than write papers in WordPerfect (not requiring much formatting) is how does one format across large documents? suppose I decide that all paragraphs with a certain indentation should also be in italics; I can simply change the style for indented paragraphs of that sort and the change should replicate through the document. what is the facility in WP for that? I think it uses some kind of template? law offices used to use it and they have elaborate requirements. forgive me for not looking but WP people would know right away. f. -- Felmon Davis When it comes to helping you, some people stop at nothing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fwd: Apache Office org
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, toki wrote: On 08/05/2015 12:01 AM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: Hitler! That works only if the phrase/term can be inserted in what could be misconstrued as a meaningful reference. Offhand, I can't think of an example of how to insert it into this specific discussion. only a net Nazi would impose this constraint!!! (does that work?) f. -- Felmon Davis People are always available for work in the past tense. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Windows 10
On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Scooter C wrote: Good Afternoon Z Jones, I have upgraded to Win 10 Home on a 64bit machine. I lost nothing [but had also backed up my computer]. ALL my programs work as they did before the upgrade and Thunderbird works better, as does my Scrabble game. I have the latest AOO 4.1.1 (previously installed on Win8.1) and it works beautifully. You should upgrade to AOO 4.1.1 and quarry your hardware provider to whether its compatible with Win 10, BEFORE you install "new equipment". Otherwise you will be experimenting. you can query your hardware provider or more simply run Microsoft's updater tool. I gather people got a notification icon if their equipment is compatible but not always, especially if one turned off updates or 'hid' kb3035583. look at the discussion here: <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081048> you might also review: <http://windows.wonderhowto.com/inspiration/everything-you-need-disable-windows-10-0163552/> f. Z Jones wrote on 8/7/2015 11:31 AM: I am planning to replace my desktop (or tower?) and I have now Apache open office 3 and Windows 10. Can it be transferred to the new equipment? Also I have a message to upgrade to 4.1, but I am afraid to mess things up because of the two changes, namely new tower and Windows 10. The program works fine now, but I do not know anything about computers and I have to relay on outside help and there are a lot of incompetents "experts". It seems that no matter how much they charge you they do not know much. So briefly will I have problems in installing new equipment in Windows 10 and keep my Apache Open Office in good shape without losing all my documents? Thank you. Zai Jones - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Felmon Davis The past always looks better than it was. It's only pleasant because it isn't here. -- Finley Peter Dunne (Mr. Dooley) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: problems downloading/installing
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Jim McLaughlin wrote: It is sad that you apparently have no concept as to how inane your posts are. By the way, FUD = FEAR, UNCERTAINTY and DOUBT. Your repeated incorrect assertion that all downloads from SourceForge fail is FUD. Your assertion is untrue. Please stop spreading the false assertion that all downloads from SourceForge fail. gentlemen, please, be careful of the furniture! for what it's worth, I'm downloading the software from Sourceforge as we speak. distinguish: Proposition #1: SourceForce is treated as a known distributor of malware, and thus all downloads from SourceForge _will_ fail. from Proposition #2: SourceForge is being added to malware blacklists. f. -- Felmon Davis "Today, of course, it is considered very poor taste to use the F-word except in major motion pictures." -- Dave Barry, "$#$%#^%!^%&@%@!" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Help in program
On Sun, 6 Dec 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [...] I recommend that you visit the Community Forums, <https://forum.openoffice.org/>. There is no Portuguese version. EN is the most extensive. Search for information on making extensions and producing scripts. Find small examples. See what is required for simple cases first. One difficulty may be in providing custom options based on where the operator clicks or points with the mouse. From Google Translate: I'm no speaker of Portuguese but I notice that Google Translate takes the line above and produces the following: Eu recomendo que você visite os Fóruns da comunidade, <https://forum.openoffice.org/>. Não há versão em Português. PT é a mais extensa. Procurar informações sobre como fazer extensões e produção de scripts. Encontre pequenos exemplos. Veja o que é necessário para casos simples em primeiro lugar. so notice GT replaces your EN with PT! f. -- Felmon Davis For courage mounteth with occasion. -- William Shakespeare, "King John" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
