Re: Unscribe

2012-12-16 Thread Dave Barton
I recommend that other subscribers ignore these "Please unsubscribe me"
posts and leave it to the list moderators to deal with off-list. We
cannot prevent the initial post from being delivered, but if it is
ignored we eliminate (reduce) the number of repeated and sometimes
unnecessarily insulting, "How to unsubscribe" posts cluttering our lists.

As moderators it is part of our responsibility to assist subscribers and
non-subscribers with list issues and as Peter has stated we have the
facility to unsubscribe someone if requested to do so.

FYI I unsubscribed Jeff from this list two days ago.

Regards
Dave

 Original Message  
From: Peter Junge 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 09:50:17 +0800

> Jeff, and anyone else who wants to unsubscribe,
> 
> please reply to list or feel free to email me directly and I'll take
> care about it.
> 
> P.S.: To my experience unsubscribing works very well. As a moderator I'm
> using exactly the same method and it never failed.
> 
> On 12/15/2012 12:52 AM, Jeff Pedersen wrote:
>> Good Luck, I've been trying to get off this list for 6 months
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vegastore
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 10:45 AM
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Unscribe



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Re: Unscribe

2012-12-16 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 16/12/2012 02:45, Peter Junge a écrit :


Besides missing the link at the bottom, form my experience the most common 
mistake when trying to unsubscribe is using a different email address than the 
one which is on the list.


This is precisely the point of the topic I've linked: it gives the method to 
check what email account was used.

Hagar

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Unsubsribe -is- broken

2012-12-16 Thread dbarret...@netscape.net

The unsubsribe does not work.  This is first of all obvious from the number of 
complaints to the list.  It is beside the point that the process sometimes or 
even usually works.  Counting the number of people it works for is pointless.  
Instead count the number who have complained.

The first unsubsribe email works, at least to the point where one receives the 
auto confirm.  

That there even is a confirm is madness.  It is also quite possibly illegal as 
removing oneself from auto mailers has been regulated. From the moment a user 
wishes to absent themselves from this list and going forward you are spam.

Of course, like all spam the response is "well you signed up".  That doesn't 
change the fact that you're spamming.

The auto generated response contains the instruction to reply.  When one does 
(and the process fails) the result is a parse error at the server resulting in 
a auto generated help response.

My mailer flags the email address on the help page as invalid.  I will not 
defend my mailer, but simply point out it is vastly deployed.

It is too much to hope for, I know, that after so many months of complaints 
anyone will take the issue seriously.  However it is an issue and further more 
it seems to be unique to this list.  I monitor several other lists with similar 
infrastructure and there is never a complaint.

If someone is willing to do more than shrug I have the following suggestions, 
in order of likelihood of success.
  1 lose the two part process notification is enough it's free to sign up.
  2. revamp the confirm message and inductions.
  3. provide a backup html solution.





Re: PLEASE help with templates!

2012-12-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Neil and Ann Robertson wrote:

I want to use standard Avery  Inkjet  labels 21 to a page 63.5 mm x  38.1
mm code 905068
I have been unable to find a template for this in open Office ...
I am sure Open Office must have these


Sure it does. Start OpenOffice, then File - New - Labels, set the 
correct brand and type and then "New Document".


If you need a screenshot, here you go:
http://imagebin.org/239579
(set "Continuous" instead of "Sheet" if you have a single label)

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Unsubsribe -is- broken

2012-12-16 Thread Peter Junge
Unsubscribing *does* work. As a moderator I have been helping several of 
those subscribers who complained and it always turned out that they did 
something wrong. The most common error is trying to unsubscribe with a 
different email address than that one which is on the list. Furthermore, 
the moderators are using exactly the same method.


Nonetheless, I have just tested the whole cycle with subscribing and 
unsubscribing an email address and it worked like a charm.


Confirming unsubscribing *is* absolutely necessary. It's easy to spoof 
email addresses, even Google Mail has this feature. This is like a 
postcard. I may send a postcard with your name on it as a prank and 
email works in the same way.


Best regards,
Peter

On 12/16/2012 11:50 PM, dbarret...@netscape.net wrote:


The unsubsribe does not work.  This is first of all obvious from the number of 
complaints to the list.  It is beside the point that the process sometimes or 
even usually works.  Counting the number of people it works for is pointless.  
Instead count the number who have complained.

The first unsubsribe email works, at least to the point where one receives the 
auto confirm.

That there even is a confirm is madness.  It is also quite possibly illegal as 
removing oneself from auto mailers has been regulated. From the moment a user 
wishes to absent themselves from this list and going forward you are spam.

Of course, like all spam the response is "well you signed up".  That doesn't 
change the fact that you're spamming.

The auto generated response contains the instruction to reply.  When one does 
(and the process fails) the result is a parse error at the server resulting in 
a auto generated help response.

My mailer flags the email address on the help page as invalid.  I will not 
defend my mailer, but simply point out it is vastly deployed.

It is too much to hope for, I know, that after so many months of complaints 
anyone will take the issue seriously.  However it is an issue and further more 
it seems to be unique to this list.  I monitor several other lists with similar 
infrastructure and there is never a complaint.

If someone is willing to do more than shrug I have the following suggestions, 
in order of likelihood of success.
   1 lose the two part process notification is enough it's free to sign up.
   2. revamp the confirm message and inductions.
   3. provide a backup html solution.





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