cpu at 99% by firefox

2015-08-01 Thread jd1008

Certain web sites raise my cpu utilization to 99%.

The 2 websites that I visit very frequently are youtube and ebay.

I end up having to kill all the ebay and youtube tabs
in order to regain some response for other interactive processes,
and bring cpu utilization down to about 2 to 4 %.

So, why would these sites rob me of so much cpu computing power?
How are they doing it? They even end up consuming network bandwidth,
so much so, that other FF connections become extremely sluggish.
The internet connection I connect to normally provides 6-MBites/s
download speeds.
When FF eats 99% of cpu, in most cases, I am not even playing
any youtube videos.
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Re: Mobile Broadand

2015-08-02 Thread jd1008



On 08/02/2015 02:06 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Is there a list of dongle 3G or 4G compatible with fedora 22?
Thank
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*Sent:* Sunday, August 02, 2015 at 9:22 PM
*From:* "Paul Cartwright" 
*To:* "Patrick Dupre" 
*Subject:* Re: Mobile Broadand
On 08/02/2015 01:07 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

It is an onetouch Alcatel


lots of google hits for alcatel & linux.. I never found a good answer..

http://alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/support/faq/datacard.html

  * Q2Is my modem compatible with Windows / Mac / Linux OS?
Alcatel Modems are compatible with Windows / Mac OS. Detailed
specifications might be different according to different models.
Please find the detailed information on the Alcatel Website:
http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/products/mobile_broadband.html


http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2110
Tried Alcatel OT X602D with Fedora 22, CentOS 6.5 and Fedora 20. No 
luck at all.

Fedora 22 have a record for it, but end with segfault:
Fedora 19 32bit with glibc-2.17 and latest usb_modeswitch - segfault 
in libc-2.17...

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Re: cpu at 99% by firefox

2015-08-02 Thread jd1008


On 08/02/2015 06:37 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 03:27:58PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:

Certain web sites raise my cpu utilization to 99%.
The 2 websites that I visit very frequently are youtube and ebay.
I end up having to kill all the ebay and youtube tabs
in order to regain some response for other interactive processes,
and bring cpu utilization down to about 2 to 4 %.

Do you have flash installed?


NOP!!!
I use html5.

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Re: cpu at 99% by firefox

2015-08-03 Thread jd1008



On 08/02/2015 08:53 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

Since the Flash remote kill happened a few weeks ago by Mozilla and
Google, I purged all Flash including manually disabling the built-in
plugin in Chrome. But within days, I found that site have escalated
their migration to HTML5 video and I've noticed two things. a.) these
sites use more CPU than they did before with Flash. b.) they
automatically play video, including ads in the margin, and I have
found no way to disable this behavior such that I get the equivalent
behavior I did with the Flash Block plugin.

As for the first problem, I'm gonna guess that HTML5 video codec is
not yet, or as well, GPU optimized as Flash was. And the second, I
don't know but it really has me in an incredibly foul mood because I'm
actually wishing for Flash to come back just so I can block video. It
even happens on my phone running Cyanogenmod, and it basically just
chokes to death.




Chris Murphy

My suspicion is that it is not html5.
I say this because, even though I was cruising youtube,
I was not playing anything. Furthermore, I used an addon
to block all ads, so I had no animated ads, nor any ads
on the pages. So, I am puzzled about what is eating the
cpu bandwidth. I wish there were away for the user to
view all the JS directives that FF receives from the web sites
so we can know exactly what it is doing. We  need to
able to exercise total control over what the browser is
doing on behalf the websites we visit.

When I killed FF, cpu usage went down to 2%.

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Re: cpu at 99% by firefox

2015-08-03 Thread jd1008



On 08/03/2015 09:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/03/15 23:19, jd1008 wrote:

My suspicion is that it is not html5.
I say this because, even though I was cruising youtube,
I was not playing anything. Furthermore, I used an addon
to block all ads, so I had no animated ads, nor any ads
on the pages. So, I am puzzled about what is eating the
cpu bandwidth. I wish there were away for the user to
view all the JS directives that FF receives from the web sites
so we can know exactly what it is doing. We  need to
able to exercise total control over what the browser is
doing on behalf the websites we visit.

When I killed FF, cpu usage went down to 2%.

Looking back at the archives you seem to have more problems than you can shake 
a stick at.

I tried very hard today to get FF into the condition you're reporting and could 
not.  I went on eBay, YouTube, CNN, mlb.com, NYtimes and a whole bunch of other 
places.  I had 8 tabs open including Facebook and G+.  No issues.  But, I also 
don't have any addons or extensions to firefox since that isn't my browser of 
choice.

In this post you've indicated perceived problems with CPU usage as well as 
network bandwidth.

For the network bandwidth, you can always use wireshark to see what may be 
hogging the network.

For the cpu issue, maybe gdb offers some clues.


I did not mention network as that does not seem to be the problem.
Just the cpu utilization by FF according to output of top.

gdb shows stacks. How can one use gdb to find just exactly what
is eating up so much cpu?

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Re: cpu at 99% by firefox

2015-08-03 Thread jd1008



On 08/03/2015 10:04 AM, Andras Simon wrote:

2015-08-03 17:51 GMT+02:00, Ed Greshko :

On 08/03/15 23:19, jd1008 wrote:

My suspicion is that it is not html5.
I say this because, even though I was cruising youtube,
I was not playing anything. Furthermore, I used an addon
to block all ads, so I had no animated ads, nor any ads
on the pages. So, I am puzzled about what is eating the
cpu bandwidth. I wish there were away for the user to
view all the JS directives that FF receives from the web sites
so we can know exactly what it is doing. We  need to
able to exercise total control over what the browser is
doing on behalf the websites we visit.

When I killed FF, cpu usage went down to 2%.

Looking back at the archives you seem to have more problems than you can
shake a stick at.

I tried very hard today to get FF into the condition you're reporting and
could not.  I went on eBay, YouTube, CNN, mlb.com, NYtimes and a whole bunch
of other places.  I had 8 tabs open including Facebook and G+.  No issues.
But, I also don't have any addons or extensions to firefox since that isn't
my browser of choice.

It's not easily reproducible, but it does happen a lot for me, too.
Even with JS switched off and Flash killed.

Herr Greshko is the only one Not having this issue ?? :) :) :) (LOL)
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Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008

She is running mate desktop.

She does not recall what key sequences she pushed,
but now, Cntrl-Alt-F[23456...] no longer work.

I tried it on her computer under her login, and it does not work.

Creating another account and login in with that account, it works.

So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.

Any clues how to restore it?

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Re: Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008



On 08/07/2015 01:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/07/2015 12:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:


Creating another account and login in with that account, it works.



Does the new account also use Mate?

Yes.



So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.


It sounds like something's remapped them, but I don't use Mate and 
wouldn't know what special programs or settings it has.  If you have 
more than one DE, try switching her first account to that and see what 
happens.

Only mate DT is installed.
She does not want to use any other DT.

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Re: Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008



On 08/07/2015 01:45 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 08/07/2015 03:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:


So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.

Any clues how to restore it?

right click on menu icon->preference->keybord shortcut


You might look at the solutions offered on this link:
http://superuser.com/questions/615136/fedora-19-system-snapshot
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Re: Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008



On 08/07/2015 01:45 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 08/07/2015 03:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:


So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.

Any clues how to restore it?

right click on menu icon->preference->keybord shortcut


For Mate DT, what icon are you referring to?

I have

System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Keyboard

There nothing there about shortcuts.
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Re: Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008



On 08/07/2015 05:14 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:15:57PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:


On 08/07/2015 01:45 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 08/07/2015 03:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:

So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.

Any clues how to restore it?

right click on menu icon->preference->keybord shortcut


For Mate DT, what icon are you referring to?

I have

System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Keyboard

There nothing there about shortcuts.

on my Centos-7 box, using MATE, there's both keyboard and
"keyboard shortcuts" on the "hardware" menu. I think
that's the one wanted.


On her fedora Mate,
there is no
System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> "keyboard shortcuts"

What there is,
System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> keyboard -> Accessibility (a tab) 
-> A checkmark for "Accessibility features can be toggled with keyboard 
shortcuts"


But that does not provide anything to fix her problem.
So, the issue might be with different mate config menus for different 
distros/versions ???



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Re: Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008



On 08/07/2015 06:53 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 06:34:09PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:


On 08/07/2015 05:14 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:15:57PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/07/2015 01:45 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 08/07/2015 03:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:

So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.

Any clues how to restore it?

right click on menu icon->preference->keybord shortcut


For Mate DT, what icon are you referring to?

I have

System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Keyboard

There nothing there about shortcuts.

on my Centos-7 box, using MATE, there's both keyboard and
"keyboard shortcuts" on the "hardware" menu. I think
that's the one wanted.


On her fedora Mate,
there is no
System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> "keyboard shortcuts"

What there is,
System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> keyboard -> Accessibility (a
tab) -> A checkmark for "Accessibility features can be toggled with
keyboard shortcuts"

But that does not provide anything to fix her problem.
So, the issue might be with different mate config menus for
different distros/versions ???

Yeah, I have that program too, but it's not the one needed.

pls see if there are any other mate packages not installed:

yum list available | grep -y mate

perhaps one of them dthat isn't installed has the progrm you need.

here is a list of all the mate packages I have installed, FYI:
libmatekbd.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
libmatemixer.x86_64   1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
libmateweather.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
libmateweather-data.noarch1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-applets.x86_64   1.10.3-1.el7   @epel
mate-backgrounds.noarch   1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-calc.x86_64  1.8.0-1.el7@epel
mate-control-center.x86_641.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-control-center-filesystem.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-desktop.x86_64   1.10.1-2.el7   @epel
mate-desktop-libs.x86_64  1.10.1-2.el7   @epel
mate-dictionary.x86_641.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-disk-usage-analyzer.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-icon-theme.noarch1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-icon-theme-faenza.noarch 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-media.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-menus.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-menus-libs.x86_641.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-menus-preferences-category-menu.x86_64
mate-notification-daemon.x86_64   1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-panel.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-panel-libs.x86_641.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-polkit.x86_641.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-power-manager.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-screensaver.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-screenshot.x86_641.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-search-tool.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-session-manager.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-settings-daemon.x86_64   1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-system-log.x86_641.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-system-monitor.x86_641.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-terminal.x86_64  1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-themes.noarch1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-utils-common.noarch  1.10.2-1.el7   @epel

good luck!

Fred


She has all of the packages you mention, except for libmatemixer,
which is available in fedora 22 updates repo.
But I do not think that the mixer has anything to do with my friend's
problem at hand.


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Re: Want to help a friend with a desktop problem

2015-08-07 Thread jd1008



On 08/07/2015 08:41 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 08:23:40PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:


On 08/07/2015 06:53 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 06:34:09PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/07/2015 05:14 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:15:57PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/07/2015 01:45 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 08/07/2015 03:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:

So, something changed, that has disabled the cntrl-alt-f keys.

Any clues how to restore it?

right click on menu icon->preference->keybord shortcut


For Mate DT, what icon are you referring to?

I have

System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Keyboard

There nothing there about shortcuts.

on my Centos-7 box, using MATE, there's both keyboard and
"keyboard shortcuts" on the "hardware" menu. I think
that's the one wanted.


On her fedora Mate,
there is no
System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> "keyboard shortcuts"

What there is,
System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> keyboard -> Accessibility (a
tab) -> A checkmark for "Accessibility features can be toggled with
keyboard shortcuts"

But that does not provide anything to fix her problem.
So, the issue might be with different mate config menus for
different distros/versions ???

Yeah, I have that program too, but it's not the one needed.

pls see if there are any other mate packages not installed:

yum list available | grep -y mate

perhaps one of them dthat isn't installed has the progrm you need.

here is a list of all the mate packages I have installed, FYI:
libmatekbd.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
libmatemixer.x86_64   1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
libmateweather.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
libmateweather-data.noarch1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-applets.x86_64   1.10.3-1.el7   @epel
mate-backgrounds.noarch   1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-calc.x86_64  1.8.0-1.el7@epel
mate-control-center.x86_641.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-control-center-filesystem.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-desktop.x86_64   1.10.1-2.el7   @epel
mate-desktop-libs.x86_64  1.10.1-2.el7   @epel
mate-dictionary.x86_641.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-disk-usage-analyzer.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-icon-theme.noarch1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-icon-theme-faenza.noarch 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-media.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-menus.x86_64 1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-menus-libs.x86_641.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-menus-preferences-category-menu.x86_64
mate-notification-daemon.x86_64   1.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-panel.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-panel-libs.x86_641.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-polkit.x86_641.10.0-1.el7   @epel
mate-power-manager.x86_64 1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-screensaver.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-screenshot.x86_641.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-search-tool.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-session-manager.x86_64   1.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-settings-daemon.x86_64   1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-system-log.x86_641.10.2-1.el7   @epel
mate-system-monitor.x86_641.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-terminal.x86_64  1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-themes.noarch1.10.1-1.el7   @epel
mate-utils-common.noarch  1.10.2-1.el7   @epel

good luck!

Fred


She has all of the packages you mention, except for libmatemixer,
which is available in fedora 22 updates repo.
But I do not think that the mixer has anything to do with my friend's
problem at hand.


OK, I have one (or two) more suggesion(s):
on my centos system, the menu item for "keyboard shortcuts" maps
to the program named gnome-keybinding-properties.

On a Fedora-21 VM I have, it links to mate-keybinding properties.

so, if your friend has either of those two programs, that's the
one you need, at least for the purpose of checking out the earlier
suggestion from another poster.

You don't even need to link it into the menus, you should be able
to run it from the commandline.

Fred

Fred, u r a lifesaver.
On her system, it is /usr/bin/mate-keybinding-properties

and that was the magic bullet!!!

Many th

Desktop Switching Tool

2015-08-08 Thread jd1008

The Desktop Switcher:
System -> Control Center

opens up the gui app for all kinds of system settings.

One of them, in the System group, is called Desktop Switching Tool.

When selecting this tool, it displays the names of several DT's:
Gnome
KDE
TWM
FVWM
ICEWM
System Defaults

But no selection available for Mate.

Is this something that the Mate devs should address, or some other group?

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Re: Desktop Switching Tool

2015-08-08 Thread jd1008



On 08/08/2015 07:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/08/2015 06:15 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Is this something that the Mate devs should address, or some other 
group?


Do you have Mate installed?


Goes without saying :)

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Re: Desktop Switching Tool

2015-08-09 Thread jd1008



On 08/08/2015 07:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/08/2015 06:30 PM, jd1008 wrote:



On 08/08/2015 07:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/08/2015 06:15 PM, jd1008 wrote:

Is this something that the Mate devs should address, or some other
group?


Do you have Mate installed?


Goes without saying :)



Just checking.  Are you currently using Mate?  It might not show 
whatever DE you're using because it's pointless to switch from Mate to 
Mate.
I am using mate. And the Desktop Switching Tool shows that the current 
selection is KDE, which is NOT my DT.
Even if I change it to Gnome (which is also NOT my DT), it does not stay 
there after restart of X (i.e. log out
and log back in). I even tried reboot. Checking it again after re-login, 
it still shows KDE selected as the switching tool.



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Re: pulseaudio-equalizer

2015-08-09 Thread jd1008



On 08/09/2015 01:51 AM, François Patte wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Le 09/08/2015 01:02, Ed Greshko a écrit :

On 08/09/15 06:11, Rex Dieter wrote:

Ed Greshko wrote:


On 08/09/15 01:19, François Patte wrote:

I tried to use pulseaudio-equalizer, but if I launch it the
sound no more work on my computer Is there a special
configuration to perform to use it?

All I can do at this moment is to confirm your findings.

I use KDE and when I use the equalizer and select a preset the
volume indicator on my systray goes to mute.

Try this from -testing ?

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-12344/pulseaudio-

equalizer-2.7-16.fc22




notes: Fixing unwanted audio mute when adjusting the equalizer

Back now after post typhoon balcony clean up

Tested and confirmed this fixes the problem.  karma given.

Not for me. Same behaviour: I try to adjust the equalizer and
immediately the soud stops! I have to kill pulseaudio, then to restart
it

For me, it does not stop. It actually drops the volume level, but still 
audible.

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Re: ~

2015-08-09 Thread jd1008



On 08/09/2015 05:58 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

It seems that fedora create a ~ sub directory without I can control it.
Can I avoid it?
I do not see the point because ~ is the home directory, why do we need
a ~ subdirectory in any directory?

Thank.


is it a directory, or is it a symlink to .  (dot) ?

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Q about TB and sent mail

2015-08-10 Thread jd1008

Using TB 38.1.0

When I used to send email via TB, I would be able
to see that sent message in the Sent folder when I
logged in to my account via the web browser.

But has not been happening for quite some time.
I no longer see my sent messages which I send via TB,
in the Sent folder via the web browser.

Is this some specific settings issue?

P.S> I have no filters set in my account at gmail.

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Re: Q about TB and sent mail

2015-08-10 Thread jd1008



On 08/10/2015 01:59 PM, SternData wrote:

On 08/10/2015 02:37 PM, jd1008 wrote:

Using TB 38.1.0

When I used to send email via TB, I would be able
to see that sent message in the Sent folder when I
logged in to my account via the web browser.

But has not been happening for quite some time.
I no longer see my sent messages which I send via TB,
in the Sent folder via the web browser.

Is this some specific settings issue?

P.S> I have no filters set in my account at gmail.


If you send mail through a google-hosted mail (gmail or google apps
account), it will automatically go to sent-mail. In TBird, you should
not set it to copy any messages into sent mail.


I have no setting in TB for copying messages into Sent.
It is the Sent folder at the gmail server that I am wondering
why it did not show my latest emails sent vi TB.


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Re: Q about TB and sent mail

2015-08-10 Thread jd1008



On 08/10/2015 03:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/10/2015 01:52 PM, jd1008 wrote:

I have no setting in TB for copying messages into Sent.
It is the Sent folder at the gmail server that I am wondering
why it did not show my latest emails sent vi TB.


I don't use gmail for my smtp server but I wouldn't think that it 
would keep copies of any messages that didn't originate there. Are 
there copies of older messages sent from TB in your gmail's Sent folder?

Yes indeed!
That is why I  was wondering about the recent ones I had sent from TB.
Could this be an issue with the ISP?
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Re: Fedora 20: dropping wifi

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 04:24 AM, Henrik Frisk wrote:

Hi,

I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I loose 
WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to although I know 
there should be several and other devices are connected. The only 
remedy is a restart. Logout will not help. After restart I can access 
networks for a while after which it is dropped again.


My Network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n 
(rev 02)


Any suggestions?

Best,
/Henrik


All I can suggest is that the firmware of that wifi has power saving
function that turns it off after what it decides to be a period of 
inactivity.


Another thing to check is

System -> Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Screen Saver

From that gui, click on Power Management
Be sure to check all 4 tabs of the Power Management Gui.

R U running on battery most of the time?

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Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008

TB 38.1.0:
The list of available search engines is limited,
and provides no way for the user to add other search engines.
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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008

Edit -> Preferences -> General Tab

On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:

On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote:

TB 38.1.0:
The list of available search engines is limited,
and provides no way for the user to add other search engines.

I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines



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Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a
sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can
get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise
stateful system. This is how Windows has done updates for a long time
now, and snapper, and Fedora Atomic (rpm-ostree) work. The underlying
technical details of how the snapshot is achieved are dissimilar, but
the basic idea is the same which is you have multiple trees and can
revert to previous states.

So maybe it's better to call these rollbacks in terms of "user
selectable stateful states" haha. Whereas statelessness is like a
system reset: such as what we find on mobile devices, and since
Windows 8.

Is restoring an rsync backup to a currently running system a rollback?
It's not atomic, and unless you first backup the current state you
can't then do a rollforward after you've done the rollback because
you've overwritten the current state with the backup. And since the
overwrite happens with in-use files, it's not atomic. Any mistakes and
it can easily implode the system in a way that you can't go forward or
backward to get to a bootable system and you're in diagnose and repair
mode.

NTFS shadow copy, snapper+Btrfs (or LVM thinp), and rpm-ostree are all
atomic rollbacks. I think it can be argued that rollbacks imply the
expectation of atomicity. Otherwise you'd just say "restoring from
backup" or "doing a system restore/rebuild from backup".



Thanx Chris for this elucidation.
However, it is still not clear how one can do an atomic rollback
when the currently booted system and perhaps logged in user
has (have) already modified some files. How does one proceed then?
Save the files modified since last backup or snapshot, do the restoration/
rollback, and then go through the tedious process of comparing
the just saved files against the ones brought by rollback?
How does one proceed in such a situation?

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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 01:50 PM, SternData wrote:

On 08/11/2015 02:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:

Edit -> Preferences -> General Tab

On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:

On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote:

TB 38.1.0:
The list of available search engines is limited,
and provides no way for the user to add other search engines.

I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines


This isn't a Fedora issue... you might check in the Mozilla forums.


Forums??
What a pain!!!
TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one.

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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 02:03 PM, g wrote:


On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote:
<<>>


Forums??
What a pain!!!
TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one.

wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support.

their is a pain tho. his name is chris iliass. ;-)



Indeed I have run into mr. ilias before and simply could not
register to the list. Has to do with receiving confirmation,
which never comes.

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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote:


On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote:

TB 38.1.0:
The list of available search engines is limited,
and provides no way for the user to add other search engines.

   Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General Tab -> [Config Editor]

in about:config window;

Search: search

you will/should see;

   Preference Name
   browser.search.defaultenginename
   browser.search.order.1
   browser.search.order.2
   browser.search.order.3

where you set what you want for search engine by double clicking preference
line you want to change. a window will pop up with name of preference and
and an entry line. change as desired.

if you want more, right clicking on any line will pop up, a 'Modify'
window, click 'New', select 'String'.

in 'New string value' window, enter name as;

   browser.search.order.x

   [ 'x' is next number of order. i do not know what the ]
   [ limit is. you will have to play with that yourself. ]

click [OK], in 'Enter string value' window, enter http/s address for
desired search engine.



I did that, but it still does snot take effect even after restarting.

See the config page's settings for search:

//www.sendspace.com/file/v2lgec


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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 04:13 PM, g wrote:


On 08/11/15 16:01, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote:

On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote:

TB 38.1.0:
The list of available search engines is limited,
and provides no way for the user to add other search engines.

Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General Tab -> [Config Editor]

in about:config window;

 Search: search

you will/should see;

Preference Name
browser.search.defaultenginename
browser.search.order.1
browser.search.order.2
browser.search.order.3

where you set what you want for search engine by double clicking preference
line you want to change. a window will pop up with name of preference and
and an entry line. change as desired.

if you want more, right clicking on any line will pop up, a 'Modify'
window, click 'New', select 'String'.

in 'New string value' window, enter name as;

browser.search.order.x

[ 'x' is next number of order. i do not know what the ]
[ limit is. you will have to play with that yourself. ]

click [OK], in 'Enter string value' window, enter http/s address for
desired search engine.



I did that, but it still does snot take effect even after restarting.

See the config page's settings for search:

//www.sendspace.com/file/v2lgec



try entering *complete* _http_ / _https_ address. _not_ just engine name.

also, if does not work, enter word search in "Search:" bar and with search
direction pointing down so i can compare to mine easier. ty.


Did that, and again it does not change the search engine in the main 
General tab.

See
https://www.sendspace.com/file/qzpkw9


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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/11/2015 09:18 PM, g wrote:


On 08/11/15 20:28, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/11/2015 04:13 PM, g wrote:

<<>>


try entering *complete* _http_ / _https_ address. _not_ just engine name.

also, if does not work, enter word search in "Search:" bar and with search
direction pointing down so i can compare to mine easier. ty.



Did that, and again it does not change the search engine in the main
General tab.
See
https://www.sendspace.com/file/qzpkw9



ok.

3 problems:

  #1 "What we have here is failure to communicate."
  #2 "What we have here is difference between 'about:config'."
  #3 "What we have here is one hell of a lot of changes at Mozilla.org."

3 solutions:

  #1 hopeless. you missed paragraph starting with "also,".
 not a problem as i was able to zoom your snapshot to read
 what your 'about:config' showed for 'browser', tho i _also_
 wanted to see what you had for word *search*. my bad because
 i failed to accent "enter word *search* in "Search:" bar". :-)

  #2 not that big of a problem, your extras are not important.

  #3 because of changes at Mozilla.org, i need to run some new
 searches at Mozilla.org to see where they now have what you
 need to do to get your search engines "running on all 8".

comment:

i found a new page that tells about search engines and it appears
that there have been some changes. i believe you are going to have
to add a plugin or two, not sure where they are, so it will take
some time to find where moz .org has moved rest of info. therefore,
i do not believe i can find everything in a short time.

possibly another reader may have already been thru this and can give
you a quick answer.



Well, issue is with TB. Not with Google.
They have effectively rendered TB's about:config , at least wrt default 
search, a NOP.


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Re: Fedora 20: dropping wifi

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/12/2015 09:27 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, jd1008 wrote:




On 08/11/2015 04:24 AM, Henrik Frisk wrote:

Hi,

I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I loose 
WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to although I 
know there should be several and other devices are connected. The 
only remedy is a restart. Logout will not help. After restart I can 
access networks for a while after which it is dropped again.


My Network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n 
(rev 02)


Any suggestions?

Best,
/Henrik


All I can suggest is that the firmware of that wifi has power saving
function that turns it off after what it decides to be a period of 
inactivity.


Another thing to check is

System -> Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Screen Saver

From that gui, click on Power Management
Be sure to check all 4 tabs of the Power Management Gui.

R U running on battery most of the time?


I would like to echo the problem that Henrik is having.

The Wifi on my Dell Laptop (D630) has been dropping ever since I 
installed Fedora on it (initially F18; now F21). No matter which 
Fedora version, the Wifi connection eventually drops, can be restored 
a few times w/ systemctl restart NetworkManager


and then eventually drops.

I too would like to find a way of restoring and maintaining the Wifi 
connection w/o rebooting.


. Rest snipped .


The D630, and possibly the OP's laptop are old.
On windows systems, there is (was) a configure menu that turned off 
power management of the wifi,

so that the wifi would always remain on.
On Linux, you can disable power management by running
iwconfig  power off

Yeah ... I know .. it sounds as if you want to power it off.
That is not the meaning of it. It turns off power management,
so it will always be ON.

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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/12/2015 10:05 AM, g wrote:


On 08/12/15 10:48, jd1008 wrote:
<<>>


Well, issue is with TB. Not with Google.

such is that i understand.


They have effectively rendered TB's about:config , at least wrt default
search, a NOP.

hey, when one chases one's ass to keep up with competition, one tends
to run in a circle of crap. ;-)

read the link Ed G. provided. it is the new page i was going to look
for because my old bookmarks are redirected to a common page.

which is another crap circle because if the dev's can write a
redirected to a common page, they sure as hell could have made redirect
point to new page.



You and Ed missed the point - COMPLETELY!
It is NOT FF I am talking bout, nor searchin via FF.


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Re: Fedora 20: dropping wifi

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/12/2015 10:14 AM, jd1008 wrote:



On 08/12/2015 09:27 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, jd1008 wrote:




On 08/11/2015 04:24 AM, Henrik Frisk wrote:

Hi,

I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I 
loose WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to 
although I know there should be several and other devices are 
connected. The only remedy is a restart. Logout will not help. 
After restart I can access networks for a while after which it is 
dropped again.


My Network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n 
(rev 02)


Any suggestions?

Best,
/Henrik


All I can suggest is that the firmware of that wifi has power saving
function that turns it off after what it decides to be a period of 
inactivity.


Another thing to check is

System -> Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Screen Saver

From that gui, click on Power Management
Be sure to check all 4 tabs of the Power Management Gui.

R U running on battery most of the time?


I would like to echo the problem that Henrik is having.

The Wifi on my Dell Laptop (D630) has been dropping ever since I 
installed Fedora on it (initially F18; now F21). No matter which 
Fedora version, the Wifi connection eventually drops, can be restored 
a few times w/ systemctl restart NetworkManager


and then eventually drops.

I too would like to find a way of restoring and maintaining the Wifi 
connection w/o rebooting.


. Rest snipped .


The D630, and possibly the OP's laptop are old.
On windows systems, there is (was) a configure menu that turned off 
power management of the wifi,

so that the wifi would always remain on.
On Linux, you can disable power management by running
iwconfig  power off

Yeah ... I know .. it sounds as if you want to power it off.
That is not the meaning of it. It turns off power management,
so it will always be ON.


FWIW,
I do not even have to use iwconfig to prevent my wifi :
(02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n 
(rev 01)
from shutting down. So, I conjecture that it's firmware has power 
management off by default.


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Re: Fedora 20: dropping wifi

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/12/2015 01:07 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:

On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, jd1008 wrote:




On 08/12/2015 09:27 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:


[...]



System -> Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Screen Saver

From that gui, click on Power Management
Be sure to check all 4 tabs of the Power Management Gui.

R U running on battery most of the time?


I would like to echo the problem that Henrik is having.

The Wifi on my Dell Laptop (D630) has been dropping ever since I 
installed Fedora on it (initially F18; now F21). No matter which 
Fedora version, the Wifi connection eventually drops, can be 
restored a few times w/ systemctl restart NetworkManager


and then eventually drops.

I too would like to find a way of restoring and maintaining the Wifi 
connection w/o rebooting.


. Rest snipped .


The D630, and possibly the OP's laptop are old.
On windows systems, there is (was) a configure menu that turned off 
power management of the wifi,

so that the wifi would always remain on.
On Linux, you can disable power management by running
iwconfig  power off

Yeah ... I know .. it sounds as if you want to power it off.
That is not the meaning of it. It turns off power management,
so it will always be ON.



Much thanks for the reply; here are my results:
root@mercury ~> ifconfig wlan0
wlan0: flags=4163  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.10  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.1.255
inet6 fe80::21e:4cff:fe3b:9477  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
ether 00:1e:4c:3b:94:77  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 583519  bytes 123081532 (117.3 MiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 876057  bytes 1232935812 (1.1 GiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

root@mercury ~> iwconfig wlan0
wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"brama"
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 
00:0F:B5:38:51:BC

  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=30 dBm
  Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=63/70  Signal level=-47 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:14347  Invalid misc:7057   Missed beacon:0

root@mercury ~> iwconfig wlan0 power off
Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.


It seems that "Power Management" is already set to "off."

I am not sure that it is already set to off.
Operation not supported is an issue in the drivers, such as
brcmsmac
cfg80211
bcma
wext

wext is the wireless extensions driver.

On my machine, also not supported. To wit:
# iwconfig wlp2s0 power off
Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
SET failed on device wlp2s0 ; Operation not supported.

So it is primarily a driver issue, or it is a device firmware issue.
Sometimes if the device itself does not provide for a command to
turn power management off, then the driver itself will not support
such a command.

You might want to ask the linux wireless mailing list at
linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org

Of course, you must subscribe first.


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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/12/2015 02:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/13/15 00:16, jd1008 wrote:


On 08/12/2015 10:05 AM, g wrote:

On 08/12/15 10:48, jd1008 wrote:
<<>>


Well, issue is with TB. Not with Google.

such is that i understand.


They have effectively rendered TB's about:config , at least wrt default
search, a NOP.

hey, when one chases one's ass to keep up with competition, one tends
to run in a circle of crap. ;-)

read the link Ed G. provided. it is the new page i was going to look
for because my old bookmarks are redirected to a common page.

which is another crap circle because if the dev's can write a
redirected to a common page, they sure as hell could have made redirect
point to new page.



You and Ed missed the point - COMPLETELY!
It is NOT FF I am talking bout, nor searchin via FF.



Where in my response did I mention Firefox?  When in the link did I provide is 
the term Firefox used?

In T-Bird, in preferences, under "General" there is a selection for "Default Search 
Engine" and a drop down list that includes Bing, Yahoo, Amazon, AOL, Ebay, Twitter, and 
Wikipedia.

It is my belief that you want to add "Google" to that list and you convinced yourself that in 
order to do that you go to "Advanced-->General--->Config Editor" and manipulate the 
various entries.

You can't.  And you're not meant to be able to.

You can install the extension of T-Bird.


Well, by "you can't" simply underscores what I was saying to "g",
i.e. the about:config changes for each engines is a NOP.

The problem with all of these extensions is that they provide functions
that should be built-in to the browser.
Also, another problem with extensions is that at a certain point, they
become incompatible with a future release of TB (and this has been
clearly underscored in the case of FF extensions).

So, I want to drop this because it is not going anywhere that I want to go.

Peace,

JD
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Q about Environment files of systemd

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008

Just wondering why some values of EnvironmentFile variable in the
services files are as follows (output of grep):

/usr/lib/systemd/system/irda.service:EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/irda
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service:EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/sshd


So, what's with the hyphen after = ??

What does it mean?
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Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-12 Thread jd1008



On 08/12/2015 03:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/13/15 04:31, jd1008 wrote:

So, I want to drop this because it is not going anywhere that I want to go.

Because you want it to go where it cannot.  You wan it to result in your 
solution working when the underlying code prevents it.

I'm beginning to think you aren't asking questions on this list to find 
solutions to actual issues you're having.  I'm beginning to think you're doing 
this as some sort of exercise.
I'm beginning to think you make absolutely no effort whatsoever to find answers 
on your own.
I'm beginning to think there is no point in answering your questions.


Ed, you are beginning to think!
That is good :) :)

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Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008


A friend came to me asking for help I was not able to
figure out.

He has multiple laptops, at different geographical locations.
On all of them, he uses fedora and TB.

What he has bot been able to achieve is that all laptops
download the same messages from gmail.

But what happens is that if laptop A downloads all
latest messages. Then if he logs off, and 2 days later,
he logs in on laptop B and tried to download all messages,
he only gets the ones that come in AFTER the ones he
downloaded on laptop A.

How can he config TB to always download messages that have
not been downloaded?

Or is it an issue with the gmail server itself?

I have seen a solution that advises the use of IMAP instead
of pop3.

But that is not what he wants, because sometimes he does not have
access to the web, and would still like to read messages he has
not read yet, so he needs them to be on the laptops.

Perhaps it cannot be done???

Thanx.
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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 06:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/20/2015 04:06 PM, jd1008 wrote:

How can he config TB to always download messages that have
not been downloaded?


Are all copies set to leave the messages on the server?

I believe so.
Is that what prevents TB from auto-downloading all messages
if IMAP is used?

I thought the the option to leave messages on server applies
only to the POP3 accounts, since POP3 actually downloads
all new messages.

But, the current situation is that he is on pop3 and he cannot
download messages which were downloaded by TB on the other laptop.
Why is that?
Does gmail server keep a flag that the messages were already downloaded??
If so, how can a user prevent that flag from being set on the gmail server?

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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 06:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:12:25 -0600
jd1008 wrote:


Does gmail server keep a flag that the messages were already downloaded??
If so, how can a user prevent that flag from being set on the gmail server?

Go to your gmail account settings and look at the pop/imap tab.
There is a setting for what the server should do with the
mail after it is read by pop and one of the options is: do nothing,
leave it there.

There is no "Do nothing" option.
These are the options:
Keep GMail's copy in the Inbox
Mark Gmail's copy as Read
Archive GMail's copy
Delete GMail's copy



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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 06:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/20/2015 05:12 PM, jd1008 wrote:

I thought the the option to leave messages on server applies
only to the POP3 accounts, since POP3 actually downloads
all new messages.


Sorry; I was under the impression that you were using POP3.  My mistake.

Too many misunderstandings, especially when we miss the whole thread.

The guy is using pop3.

All he wants to accomplish is to make all 4 laptops be able
to download all new messages that were not downloaded
before on any of the laptops he has.
But Gmail seems to know that the messages were downloaded
by a mail client, and the next client that connects to gmail server,
is not sent the new messages already sent to the other client.

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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 06:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:34:55 -0600
jd1008 wrote:


Keep GMail's copy in the Inbox

Which is do nothing. It is already in the inbox, it stays in the inbox.

But, once downloaded by one of his TB clients, he is not able
to download them on the other TB client.
This is the issue. I am sure you read my reply to Joe Zeff.
I think it IS the gmail server that is doing this, but none of the
settings betray how it is done.

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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 06:52 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 08/20/2015 05:42 PM, jd1008 wrote:

But, once downloaded by one of his TB clients, he is not able
to download them on the other TB client.
This is the issue. I am sure you read my reply to Joe Zeff.
I think it IS the gmail server that is doing this, but none of the
settings betray how it is done.


Back when I did tech support for an ISP, we occasionally had calls 
from customers who needed to download the same emails (POP3) to 
several machines.  We had them set all but one of them to leave the 
mail on the server, and made sure that the one that took them off was 
the last one to download them.  I'm not sure that you can do this with 
Gmail because I don't know if it honors deletion requests from the 
client.
It apparently does support deletion, once downloaded, as I showed Tom 
Horsely:

These are the options:
Keep GMail's copy in the Inbox
Mark Gmail's copy as Read
Archive GMail's copy
Delete GMail's copy

But he has selected Keep GMail's copy in the Inbox.

So, I am puzzled why the next TB client is not downloading
his new messages.
Perhaps this is a question only Google can answer, and I have
had no luck getting no luck getting answers from google support.


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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 07:21 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:10:06 -0600
jd1008 wrote:


So, I am puzzled why the next TB client is not downloading
his new messages.

Mail clients can explicitly delete messages, which would
render any google server setting useless if TB is doing
that. Perhaps there is a TB account setting that can be
changed as well (or a better mail client :-).

All his TB settings for messages are set (check-marked)
Leave messages on server.

But it does not seem to help :(

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Re: Q about how TB handles google mail

2015-08-20 Thread jd1008



On 08/20/2015 08:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/21/15 07:06, jd1008 wrote:

A friend came to me asking for help I was not able to
figure out.

He has multiple laptops, at different geographical locations.
On all of them, he uses fedora and TB.

What he has bot been able to achieve is that all laptops
download the same messages from gmail.

But what happens is that if laptop A downloads all
latest messages. Then if he logs off, and 2 days later,
he logs in on laptop B and tried to download all messages,
he only gets the ones that come in AFTER the ones he
downloaded on laptop A.

How can he config TB to always download messages that have
not been downloaded?

Or is it an issue with the gmail server itself?

I have seen a solution that advises the use of IMAP instead
of pop3.

But that is not what he wants, because sometimes he does not have
access to the web, and would still like to read messages he has
not read yet, so he needs them to be on the laptops.

Perhaps it cannot be done???


The better solution for your friend is to switch to IMAP as IMAP has been 
designed from the start to work with multiple clients.

If you watch the T-Bird processes on multiple clients using POP you'll notice that the status 
reported on some will be "There are no NEW message" while one client will get a message.  
This is because the server has no way to determine which of the multiple clients has downloaded a 
message so when a message is downloaded by any client it is no longer marked as "NEW" on 
the server.

If you want to get all of the messages on to a given client you have to go to the gmail settings 
for POP3 and check the box for "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been 
downloaded".  But be advised that this is a "one shot" setting and the next client 
that connects to download will get all the messages on the server BUT the setting will be cleared.  
You'd have to do this over and over again for all you clients.

So...just move to IMAP is the real answer.
  


Phew!!! THAT WAS IT!!!
Awesome.
Hey --- I will tell my friend the source of the solution, so
don't worry - I will not claim the kudos :) :)

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strange behavior of external esatausb ports on a Dell laptop

2015-08-25 Thread jd1008

On a Dell E6510 laptop, there are 4 ports: 3 USB, and 1 eSata.
The ports on the left side of the laptop are USB and eSata.
Both of these ports start losing voltage after some time of
operation, say 1 hours to 5 hours.
I say lose voltage, because I actually hooked up a 5volt DC
tiny fan to the usb port (no HD connected to eSata port beneath it.
After about 90 minutes, the fan slowed down.
I unplugged it and connected it to the usb port on the right side
of the laptop and it imnediately resumed it's normal rpm and stayed there
until shutdown several hours later.
P.S: The voltage drop occurs on both ports on the left. The
eSata port also functions as a usb port, and the fan slowed down
on it as well.
Connecting a sata dist to the eSata port leads to the disk disappearing
from /dev when the voltage drops.

Power management is not enabled as laptop is always on AC.
Screensaver's power management is configured to never turn off monitor, 
nor disks

nor suspend system ...etc.

So, what might be causing the voltage drop, and how can I prevent it 
from happening?

What data do I need to gather?




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Re: strange behavior of external esatausb ports on a Dell laptop

2015-08-26 Thread jd1008



On 08/25/2015 10:36 PM, g wrote:


On 08/25/15 21:15, jd1008 wrote:

On a Dell E6510 laptop, there are 4 ports: 3 USB, and 1 eSata.
The ports on the left side of the laptop are USB and eSata.
Both of these ports start losing voltage after some time of
operation, say 1 hours to 5 hours.

<>
.
did you web search or dell site?

does voltage decrease to 0.00 v?

boot to bios or a live cd/dvd. monitor voltage. if still happens,
i would guess hardware.



There does not seem to be any google hits on what I see taking place.
Dell support is  not help. They just want you to buy a new mobo.
Voltage does not go to zero - because the tiny usb fan drops it's
rpms, but does not stop. So, perhaps it is not the voltage that is dropping,
but the amperage???
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Re: strange behavior of external esatausb ports on a Dell laptop

2015-08-26 Thread jd1008



On 08/26/2015 12:08 PM, g wrote:


On 08/26/15 11:17, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/25/2015 10:36 PM, g wrote:

On 08/25/15 21:15, jd1008 wrote:

On a Dell E6510 laptop, there are 4 ports: 3 USB, and 1 eSata.
The ports on the left side of the laptop are USB and eSata.
Both of these ports start losing voltage after some time of
operation, say 1 hours to 5 hours.

<>
.
did you web search or dell site?

does voltage decrease to 0.00 v?

boot to bios or a live cd/dvd. monitor voltage. if still happens,
i would guess hardware.



There does not seem to be any google hits on what I see taking place.
Dell support is  not help. They just want you to buy a new mobo.
Voltage does not go to zero - because the tiny usb fan drops it's
rpms, but does not stop. So, perhaps it is not the voltage that is dropping,
but the amperage???


.
ok, lets look at this another way...

you say you are on ac, so that _might_ eliminate battery's voltage dropping,
unless wall wart is failing, or failure in voltage regulatory circuits.

ac input from wart is rectified in laptop and then feed to the various
regulator circuits. it is possible that there may be a vlsi chip that
does all the voltage regulating by feeding control voltages to output
power transistors. voltage regulation can be done in many ways and only
the oem knows for sure, unless supplied in specs or schematic.

does laptop have indicator light to show battery/charge state, ac power
state?

Power supply's ac-dc circuitry is external. It feeds DC to the laptop.

do you have battery state icon on a panel that you can watch?

Yes. It shows battery at 100%. I hardly every am without AC simply
because I only need the battery if and when AC goes out. In my area,
it doe shappen, albeit, not as often as it was happening elsewhere.


  if icon shows
a state of 100% that later drops, that will give a clue of problem being
in voltage regulator circuit or in usb port chip/s.

No. It stays 100%.


you really need a VOM, Volt/Ohm Meter. a fan is pp for accurate measuring
of voltage fluctuation.

with vom, you can monitor voltage output of wart to see if it drops.

for laptop, when voltage drops, as measured at usb port, you would need to
have a way to measure battery while still connected. when you state that
you have a vom, i will go into further.

because you have failure on one side and not other, tends to indicate that
each side is on a separate regulator circuit. left side regulator could be
heating up and failing.
That is a possibility, because the heat exhaust vent is next to the left 
site ports.




which brings to mind, is this same laptop you inherited that had over heated
and you replace cpu, then found it to be gpu?
Nop. That laptop is fubar. it has the same behavior as before, even less 
than

one minute after powering on and booting.


voltage/amperage regulator chips are of type;

   cv/va = constant voltage, variable amps
   ca/vv = constant amps, variable voltage
   cv/ca = constant voltage, constant amps.

the 'constant' is usually fixed or settable, 'variable' will have a max rate.

i will presume that the regulator in laptop is cv/va, so unless chip has
heat failure, amperage is not a factor.
Well, I do not know. If it has internal regulators, they must be 
receiving DC

and regulating the DC voltage, due to the fact that the AC->DC adapter is
external to laptop.

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Re: strange behavior of external esatausb ports on a Dell laptop

2015-08-26 Thread jd1008


On 08/26/2015 04:56 PM, fred roller wrote:


Set up the VOM and temp monitoring from software center.  Push the 
system and see if there is a corrilation with rise in temp and your 
loss of power.


Fred Roller



These are the only vom packages I see in the repositories:
myproxy-voms.x86_64
perl-VOMS-Lite.noarch
perl-VOMS-Lite-tests.noarch
perl-voms-server.noarch
php-voms-admin.noarch
voms.x86_64
voms-api-java.noarch
voms-api-java-javadoc.noarch
voms-clients.x86_64
voms-clients-cpp.x86_64
voms-clients-java.noarch
voms-devel.x86_64
voms-doc.noarch
voms-mysql-plugin.x86_64
voms-server.x86_64

Which ones are of the essence?

On Aug 26, 2015 5:58 PM, "jd1008" <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:




On 08/26/2015 12:08 PM, g wrote:


On 08/26/15 11:17, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/25/2015 10:36 PM, g wrote:

On 08/25/15 21:15, jd1008 wrote:

On a Dell E6510 laptop, there are 4 ports: 3 USB,
and 1 eSata.
The ports on the left side of the laptop are USB
and eSata.
Both of these ports start losing voltage after
some time of
operation, say 1 hours to 5 hours.

<>
.
did you web search or dell site?

does voltage decrease to 0.00 v?

boot to bios or a live cd/dvd. monitor voltage. if
still happens,
i would guess hardware.


There does not seem to be any google hits on what I see
taking place.
Dell support is  not help. They just want you to buy a new
mobo.
Voltage does not go to zero - because the tiny usb fan
drops it's
rpms, but does not stop. So, perhaps it is not the voltage
that is dropping,
but the amperage???

.
ok, lets look at this another way...

you say you are on ac, so that _might_ eliminate battery's
voltage dropping,
unless wall wart is failing, or failure in voltage regulatory
circuits.

ac input from wart is rectified in laptop and then feed to the
various
regulator circuits. it is possible that there may be a vlsi
chip that
does all the voltage regulating by feeding control voltages to
output
power transistors. voltage regulation can be done in many ways
and only
the oem knows for sure, unless supplied in specs or schematic.

does laptop have indicator light to show battery/charge state,
ac power
state?

Power supply's ac-dc circuitry is external. It feeds DC to the laptop.

do you have battery state icon on a panel that you can watch?

Yes. It shows battery at 100%. I hardly every am without AC simply
because I only need the battery if and when AC goes out. In my area,
it doe shappen, albeit, not as often as it was happening elsewhere.

  if icon shows
a state of 100% that later drops, that will give a clue of
problem being
in voltage regulator circuit or in usb port chip/s.

No. It stays 100%.


you really need a VOM, Volt/Ohm Meter. a fan is pp for
accurate measuring
of voltage fluctuation.

with vom, you can monitor voltage output of wart to see if it
drops.

for laptop, when voltage drops, as measured at usb port, you
would need to
have a way to measure battery while still connected. when you
state that
you have a vom, i will go into further.

because you have failure on one side and not other, tends to
indicate that
each side is on a separate regulator circuit. left side
regulator could be
heating up and failing.

That is a possibility, because the heat exhaust vent is next to
the left site ports.


which brings to mind, is this same laptop you inherited that
had over heated
and you replace cpu, then found it to be gpu?

Nop. That laptop is fubar. it has the same behavior as before,
even less than
one minute after powering on and booting.


voltage/amperage regulator chips are of type;

   cv/va = constant voltage, variable amps
   ca/vv = constant amps, variable voltage
   cv/ca = constant voltage, constant amps.

the 'constant' is usually fixed or settable, 'variable' will
have a max rate.

i will presume that the regulator in laptop is cv/va, so
unless chip has
heat failure, amperage is not a factor.

Well, I do not know. If it has internal regulators, they must be
receiving DC
and regulating the DC voltage, due to the fact that the AC->DC
adapter is
external to laptop.

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Re: strange behavior of external esatausb ports on a Dell laptop

2015-08-26 Thread jd1008



On 08/26/2015 07:14 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:10:34PM -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 08/26/2015 04:56 PM, fred roller wrote:

Set up the VOM and temp monitoring from software center.  Push the
system and see if there is a corrilation with rise in temp and
your loss of power.

Fred Roller


These are the only vom packages I see in the repositories:
myproxy-voms.x86_64
perl-VOMS-Lite.noarch
perl-VOMS-Lite-tests.noarch
perl-voms-server.noarch
php-voms-admin.noarch
voms.x86_64
voms-api-java.noarch
voms-api-java-javadoc.noarch
voms-clients.x86_64
voms-clients-cpp.x86_64
voms-clients-java.noarch
voms-devel.x86_64
voms-doc.noarch
voms-mysql-plugin.x86_64
voms-server.x86_64

Which ones are of the essence?

Perhaps I'm naive, but I assumed he meant an actual VoltOhmMeter...
Correction welcome, should I have been mistaken.



I am no electrician :)
Fred used the sentence:

VOM and temp monitoring from software center.




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Re: cpu at 99% by firefox

2015-08-27 Thread jd1008



On 08/27/2015 10:11 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2015-08-27 at 22:54 +0930, Tim wrote:

On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 12:40 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

This abandoned extension is incredibly useful:
  
https://www.dropbox.com/s/61ovoc4hzgtm0qf/Suspend-background-tabs-m

aster.xpi?dl=0
  
Javascript is disabled for all background tabs, so they won't use

CPU
time anymore.

I always wondered why that sort of thing wasn't the default.  Other
than
listening to some music being played from a backgrounded tab, you
can't
do much with a web page that you're not currently looking at.  It
doesn't seem practical to let it suck up your CPU while you're trying
to
do other things.

Currently Firefox tabs are not separate processes. Mozilla has been
working on it for a while now but it will mean a change to the add-ons
system. See http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/mozil
la-sets-plan-to-dump-firefox-add-ons-move-to-chrome-like-extensions/

poc


Why not use multithreading to take care of all tabs?
That way we could actually find out which FF thread(s)
is (are) sucking up so much cpu?

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fedup Q: re: --product=nonproduct

2015-08-28 Thread jd1008


Given one's current installation is a workstation,
What is the consequence of running
fedup with the option |--product=nonproduct|
|
|The wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp
says:

.
.
.
.
Upgrading from Fedora 20 or earlier: Products

In order to select one of the new Fedora flavors, FedUp has a new 
option, --product=. When upgrading from Fedora 20 or earlier to 
Fedora 21 or later, you must pass this --product option.


You can use the values workstation, server, cloud or nonproduct. If you 
upgrade to Workstation or Server, all the packages that are included in 
a default installation of that flavor will be installed after the 
upgrade (that is, any that are not currently installed will be added). 
Your firewall configuration will also be reset to the default for that 
flavor (in the Workstation case, this is a fairly open configuration). 
If you do not wish these things to happen, use the value nonproduct.




So, using nonproduct, one could end up missing some packages, which 
would otherwise be installed by selecting product=workstation ???


If that is the case, how can one find out what those packages are after
fedup   --product=nonproduct ?

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kernel 4.2.0 does not handle Broadcom 43XXX wifi correctly:

2015-09-11 Thread jd1008
[   19.148795] bcma: bus0: Found chip with id 43224, rev 0x01 and 
package 0x0A
[   19.148850] bcma: bus0: Core 0 found: ChipCommon (manuf 0x4BF, id 
0x800, rev 0x22, class 0x0)
[   19.14] bcma: bus0: Core 1 found: IEEE 802.11 (manuf 0x4BF, id 
0x812, rev 0x17, class 0x0)
[   19.148973] bcma: bus0: Core 2 found: PCIe (manuf 0x4BF, id 0x820, 
rev 0x0F, class 0x0)

[   19.198660] bcma: bus0: Bus registered
[   25.128185] b43: probe of bcma0:1 failed with error -524
[   30.110713] brcmsmac bcma0:1: mfg 4bf core 812 rev 23 class 0 irq 17
[   30.704126] brcmsmac bcma0:1 wlp2s0b1: renamed from wlan0
[   33.589025] brcmsmac bcma0:1: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: qos 
enabled: false (implement)
[   33.604819] brcmsmac bcma0:1: brcms_ops_config: change power-save 
mode: false (implement)


Wehereas kernels before 3.19, such as 3.11, handle it just fine.

What is the most recent kernel that correctly handles Broadcom 43222?
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Building kernel from source rpm

2015-09-11 Thread jd1008

what are the options to give rpmbuild in order
to ONLY build for current installed architecture
and NOTHING else!! Also, would like to inhibit
the build of the debug versions as well.
Would only want to build for currently installed
fedora kernel architecture, the following:

kernel
kernel-devel
kernel-headers
kernel-modules-extra
kernel-tools
kernel-tools-libs
kernel-tools-libs-devel

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Kernel 4.3 does not seem to support Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)

2015-09-14 Thread jd1008

On a laptop with
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n 
(rev 01)

and kernel: kernel-4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1

and compiled modules:
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/phy/bcm7xxx.ko.xz
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/phy/bcm87xx.ko.xz
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/dsa/bcm_sf2.ko.xz
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmfmac
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmfmac/brcmfmac.ko.xz
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmutil
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmutil/brcmutil.ko.xz
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.ko.xz
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/bcma
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/bcma/bcma.ko.xz

the wifi will not come on.

Yes, I know the kernel I mention above is a release candidate, but I 
also tested released kernel 4.2.0

and it also does not support this wifi.


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Re: Kernel 4.3 does not seem to support Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)

2015-09-14 Thread jd1008



On 09/14/2015 03:28 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/14/2015 01:04 PM, jd1008 wrote:
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 
802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)
and kernel: kernel-4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1 


...should be supported by brcmsmac (CONFIG_BRCMSMAC in the kernel config)


Well, Gordon,

In the .config file:

CONFIG_BRCMSMAC=m

Also,

$ find /lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.x86_64/ -name \*brcmsmac\*
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmsmac
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmsmac/brcmsmac.ko.xz

And still, the wifi does not come up, and also, why is the driver module 
not probing for it?



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Re: Kernel 4.3 does not seem to support Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)

2015-09-14 Thread jd1008



On 09/14/2015 06:52 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote:

On 09/14/2015 01:04 PM, jd1008 wrote:

On a laptop with
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n
(rev 01)
and kernel: kernel-4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1

and compiled modules:
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/phy/bcm7xxx.ko.xz 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/phy/bcm87xx.ko.xz 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/dsa/bcm_sf2.ko.xz 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmfmac 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmfmac/brcmfmac.ko.xz 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmutil 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/brcm80211/brcmutil/brcmutil.ko.xz 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/bcm203x.ko.xz 



/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/bcma
/lib/modules/4.3.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/bcma/bcma.ko.xz 



the wifi will not come on.

Yes, I know the kernel I mention above is a release candidate, but I
also tested released kernel 4.2.0
and it also does not support this wifi.


What does dmesg say?

Do you have the necessary firmware installed?

All the firmware is installed.
Dmesg shows my device


dmesg | egrep 'bcm|brcm'
[   23.663122] bcma: bus0: Found chip with id 0xA8D8, rev 0x01 and 
package 0x0A
[   23.668951] bcma: bus0: Core 0 found: ChipCommon (manuf 0x4BF, id 
0x800, rev 0x22, class 0x0)
[   23.673722] bcma: bus0: Core 1 found: IEEE 802.11 (manuf 0x4BF, id 
0x812, rev 0x17, class 0x0)
[   23.679369] bcma: bus0: Core 2 found: PCIe (manuf 0x4BF, id 0x820, 
rev 0x0F, class 0x0)

[   23.698791] bcma: bus0: Bus registered
[   25.411675] b43: probe of bcma0:0 failed with error -524
[   25.890922] brcmsmac bcma0:0: mfg 4bf core 812 rev 23 class 0 irq 17
[   45.686118] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: qos 
enabled: false (implement)
[   45.702539] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_config: change power-save 
mode: false (implement)
[   77.027787] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcmsmac: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: 
associated
[   77.027796] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: qos 
enabled: true (implement)
[   77.337182] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: arp 
filtering: 1 addresses (implement)

[  251.739996] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[  361.915723] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1303.788174] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1366.973185] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1373.431674] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1479.850097] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1564.979716] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: arp 
filtering: 1 addresses (implement)

[ 1605.443024] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1853.364640] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1865.380577] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 1919.400890] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able
[ 2906.144794] brcmsmac bcma0:0: brcms_ops_bss_info_changed: arp 
filtering: 1 addresses (implement)

[ 3516.401120] brcmsmac bcma0:0: START: tid 1 is not agg'able

So, it appears that even if I wait for Fedora 23, it will not support my 
wifi.



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Re: Kernel 4.3 does not seem to support Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)

2015-09-15 Thread jd1008



On 09/15/2015 10:57 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/14/2015 06:02 PM, jd1008 wrote:
[ 25.411675] b43: probe of bcma0:0 failed with error -524 


Not sure why b43 is loading... Maybe blacklist that module and reboot:

echo b43 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

If that doesn't work, I suggest starting over from a fresh install of 
Fedora 22.  At this point, you've obviously done some work to get this 
adapter to function, but you haven't documented any of that for us.  
Any advice we're giving you may not apply to your system as you've 
modified it, and any test systems we have aren't valid since they're 
in a different state than your system.

Well, I tried:

# fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22

and it downloaded all fc23 packages :(

and on top of it, it belches this error every time I rerun the fedup 
command:


verify local files 100% 
[=]
warning: /var/lib/yum/plugins/local/Add64-1.2.2-9.fc23.x86_64.rpm: 
Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 34ec9cba: NOKEY
fedup.yum WARNING: Public key for Add64-1.2.2-9.fc23.x86_64.rpm is not 
installed

texlive-tex-gyre-svn18651.2.00 FAILED
texlive-tex-gyre-svn18651.2.00 FAILED ]  0.0 B/s |0 B  --:--:-- ETA
texlive-tex-gyre-svn18651.2.00 FAILED ]  0.0 B/s |0 B  --:--:-- ETA
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0 B  --:--:-- ETA

Downloading failed: Errors were encountered while downloading packages.
  4:texlive-tex-gyre-svn18651.2.004-12.fc23.1.noarch: [Errno 256] No 
more mirrors to try.




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fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

2015-09-15 Thread jd1008

Why
All the packages it downloaded are from the unreleased fedora 23.

For example, this is what it downloaded into
/var/cache/system-upgrade/fedora/packages/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 a2jmidid-8-9.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 
aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-2.004-5.fc23.noarch.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 
aalib-devel-1.4.0-0.27.rc5.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 
aalib-libs-1.4.0-0.27.rc5.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 
abattis-cantarell-fonts-0.0.16-3.fc23.noarch.rpm

-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 abiword-3.0.1-4.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 abrt-2.6.2-6.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 
abrt-addon-ccpp-2.6.2-6.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 
packages/abrt-addon-coredump-helper-2.6.2-6.fc23.x86_64.rpm


As you can see, all of them of length 0.

Is the repo of 22 being diverted to 23?

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Re: fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

2015-09-15 Thread jd1008



On 09/15/2015 04:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 09/15/2015 03:17 PM, jd1008 wrote:

Why
All the packages it downloaded are from the unreleased fedora 23.

For example, this is what it downloaded into
/var/cache/system-upgrade/fedora/packages/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 a2jmidid-8-9.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12
aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-2.004-5.fc23.noarch.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12
aalib-devel-1.4.0-0.27.rc5.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12
aalib-libs-1.4.0-0.27.rc5.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12
abattis-cantarell-fonts-0.0.16-3.fc23.noarch.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 abiword-3.0.1-4.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 abrt-2.6.2-6.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12
abrt-addon-ccpp-2.6.2-6.fc23.x86_64.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12
packages/abrt-addon-coredump-helper-2.6.2-6.fc23.x86_64.rpm

As you can see, all of them of length 0.

Is the repo of 22 being diverted to 23?


The correct update from F21 to F22 is:

fedup --network 22

fedup should have puked on "--product=nonproduct" as that's not a 
supported option since F21.


Also check your repos.d files and make sure you haven't enabled rawhide.


Hi Rick,
None of rawhide repos are enabled.
The latest version of fedup in f21 is fedpkg-1.20-1.fc21.noarch.rpm
# rpm -q fedup
fedup-0.9.2-1.fc21.noarch

# fedup  --network 22
usage: fedup  [options]
fedup: error:

This installation of Fedora does not belong to a product, so you
must provide the =PRODUCTNAME option to specify what product
you want to upgrade to. PRODUCTNAME should be one of:

 workstation: the default Fedora experience for laptops and desktops,
   powered by GNOME.
 server: the default Fedora experience for servers
 cloud: a base image for use on public and private clouds
 nonproduct: choose this if none of the above apply; in particular,
   choose this if you are using an alternate-desktop spin of Fedora

Selecting a product will also install its standard package-set in
addition to upgrading the packages already on your system. If you
prefer to maintain your current set of packages, select 'nonproduct'.

See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading for more information.

===

However, when I set the product=workstation, it started
to download - but ALL the downloads were failing with messages
like these:

anaconda-core-23.19.2-2.fc23.x FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-23.19.2-2.fc23.x86_64 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-gui-23.19.2-2.fc23.x8 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-core-23.19.2-2.fc23.x FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-tui-23.19.2-2.fc23.x8 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
amtterm-1.3-10.fc23.x86_64.rpm FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-gui-23.19.2-2.fc23.x8 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-core-23.19.2-2.fc23.x FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-gui-23.19.2-2.fc23.x8 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-tui-23.19.2-2.fc23.x8 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
amtterm-1.3-10.fc23.x86_64.rpm FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA
anaconda-gui-23.19.2-2.fc23.x8 FAILED ] 3.5 MB/s |  27 MB  00:24:40 ETA

My computer is connected to high speed internet, and am having no problems
browsing the web, and sending this email.

So, my question remains: Why fc23 

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Re: fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

2015-09-17 Thread jd1008



On 09/16/2015 11:40 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:


yum repolist 

$ yum repolist
Loaded plugins: aliases, auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, 
fastestmirror, filter-data, fs-snapshot, keys, langpacks, list-data,
  : local, merge-conf, post-transaction-actions, 
priorities, protectbase, refresh-packagekit, refresh-updatesd,
  : remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-leaves, 
tmprepo, tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock

_local | 2.9 kB  00:00:00
fedora/20/x86_64/metalink | 3.5 kB  00:00:00
fedora-debuginfo/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.4 kB  00:00:00
fedora-debuginfo | 3.1 kB  00:00:00
fedora-source/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.8 kB  00:00:00
fedora-source | 3.0 kB  00:00:00
google-earth |  951 B  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo | 2.7 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-source | 2.7 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
skype | 1.2 kB  00:00:00
updates/20/x86_64/metalink | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
updates-debuginfo/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.3 kB  00:00:00
updates-debuginfo | 3.0 kB  00:00:00
updates-source/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.6 kB  00:00:00
updates-source | 3.7 kB  00:00:00
(1/4): updates-debuginfo/20/x86_64/primary_db | 859 kB  00:00:01
(2/4): fedora-debuginfo/20/x86_64/primary_db | 1.9 MB  00:00:02
(3/4): updates-source/20/x86_64/primary_db | 1.8 MB  00:00:02
(4/4): fedora-source/20/x86_64/primary_db | 4.7 MB  00:00:02
(1/4): rpmfusion-free-debuginfo/20/x86_64/primary_db |  49 kB  00:00:01
(2/4): rpmfusion-free-source/20/x86_64/primary_db |  87 kB  00:00:01
(3/4): updates-source/20/x86_64/updateinfo | 2.0 MB  00:00:01
(4/4): updates-source/20/x86_64/pkgtags | 1.6 MB  00:00:00
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * fedora: dl.fedoraproject.org
 * fedora-debuginfo: dl.fedoraproject.org
 * fedora-source: dl.fedoraproject.org
 * rpmfusion-free: lug.mtu.edu
 * rpmfusion-free-debuginfo: lug.mtu.edu
 * rpmfusion-free-source: lug.mtu.edu
 * rpmfusion-free-updates: lug.mtu.edu
 * rpmfusion-nonfree: lug.mtu.edu
 * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: lug.mtu.edu
 * updates: dl.fedoraproject.org
 * updates-debuginfo: dl.fedoraproject.org
 * updates-source: dl.fedoraproject.org
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
repo id   repo name status
_localAutomatic local repo. 
(manged by the "local" yum plugin). 64

fedora/20/x86_64  Fedora 20 - x86_64 38,597
fedora-debuginfo/20/x86_64Fedora 20 - x86_64 - 
Debug 6,881

fedora-source/20/x86_64   Fedora 20 - Source 0
google-earth google-earth 1
rpmfusion-free/20/x86_64  RPM Fusion for Fedora 
20 - Free468
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo/20/x86_64RPM Fusion for Fedora 
20 - Free - Debug166
rpmfusion-free-source/20/x86_64   RPM Fusion for Fedora 
20 - Free - Source 0
rpmfusion-free-updates/20/x86_64  RPM Fusion for Fedora 
20 - Free - Updates  683
rpmfusion-nonfree/20/x86_64   RPM Fusion for Fedora 
20 - Nonfree 203
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/20/x86_64   RPM Fusion for Fedora 
20 - Nonfree - Updates   561

skype Skype Repository 1
updates/20/x86_64 Fedora 20 - x86_64 - 
Updates 22,459
updates-debuginfo/20/x86_64   Fedora 20 - x86_64 - 
Updates - Debug 3,079
updates-source/20/x86_64  Fedora 20 - Updates 
Source 0


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Re: fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

2015-09-17 Thread jd1008



On 09/17/2015 06:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 09/17/2015 03:41 PM, jd1008 wrote:



On 09/16/2015 11:40 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:


yum repolist

$ yum repolist
Loaded plugins: aliases, auto-update-debuginfo, changelog,
fastestmirror, filter-data, fs-snapshot, keys, langpacks, list-data,
   : local, merge-conf, post-transaction-actions,
priorities, protectbase, refresh-packagekit, refresh-updatesd,
   : remove-with-leaves, rpm-warm-cache, show-leaves,
tmprepo, tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock
_local | 2.9 kB  00:00:00
fedora/20/x86_64/metalink | 3.5 kB  00:00:00
fedora-debuginfo/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.4 kB  00:00:00
fedora-debuginfo | 3.1 kB  00:00:00
fedora-source/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.8 kB  00:00:00
fedora-source | 3.0 kB  00:00:00
google-earth |  951 B  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo | 2.7 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-source | 2.7 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
skype | 1.2 kB  00:00:00
updates/20/x86_64/metalink | 3.3 kB  00:00:00
updates-debuginfo/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.3 kB  00:00:00
updates-debuginfo | 3.0 kB  00:00:00
updates-source/20/x86_64/metalink | 2.6 kB  00:00:00
updates-source | 3.7 kB  00:00:00
(1/4): updates-debuginfo/20/x86_64/primary_db | 859 kB  00:00:01
(2/4): fedora-debuginfo/20/x86_64/primary_db | 1.9 MB  00:00:02
(3/4): updates-source/20/x86_64/primary_db | 1.8 MB  00:00:02
(4/4): fedora-source/20/x86_64/primary_db | 4.7 MB  00:00:02
(1/4): rpmfusion-free-debuginfo/20/x86_64/primary_db |  49 kB 00:00:01
(2/4): rpmfusion-free-source/20/x86_64/primary_db |  87 kB 00:00:01
(3/4): updates-source/20/x86_64/updateinfo | 2.0 MB  00:00:01
(4/4): updates-source/20/x86_64/pkgtags | 1.6 MB  00:00:00
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * fedora: dl.fedoraproject.org
  * fedora-debuginfo: dl.fedoraproject.org
  * fedora-source: dl.fedoraproject.org
  * rpmfusion-free: lug.mtu.edu
  * rpmfusion-free-debuginfo: lug.mtu.edu
  * rpmfusion-free-source: lug.mtu.edu
  * rpmfusion-free-updates: lug.mtu.edu
  * rpmfusion-nonfree: lug.mtu.edu
  * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: lug.mtu.edu
  * updates: dl.fedoraproject.org
  * updates-debuginfo: dl.fedoraproject.org
  * updates-source: dl.fedoraproject.org
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
repo id   repo name status
_localAutomatic local repo.
(manged by the "local" yum plugin). 64
fedora/20/x86_64  Fedora 20 - x86_64 
38,597

fedora-debuginfo/20/x86_64Fedora 20 - x86_64 -
Debug 6,881
fedora-source/20/x86_64   Fedora 20 - Source 0
google-earth google-earth 1
rpmfusion-free/20/x86_64  RPM Fusion for Fedora
20 - Free468
rpmfusion-free-debuginfo/20/x86_64RPM Fusion for Fedora
20 - Free - Debug166
rpmfusion-free-source/20/x86_64   RPM Fusion for Fedora
20 - Free - Source 0
rpmfusion-free-updates/20/x86_64  RPM Fusion for Fedora
20 - Free - Updates  683
rpmfusion-nonfree/20/x86_64   RPM Fusion for Fedora
20 - Nonfree 203
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/20/x86_64   RPM Fusion for Fedora
20 - Nonfree - Updates   561
skype Skype Repository 1
updates/20/x86_64 Fedora 20 - x86_64 -
Updates 22,459
updates-debuginfo/20/x86_64   Fedora 20 - x86_64 -
Updates - Debug 3,079
updates-source/20/x86_64  Fedora 20 - Updates
Source 0


Well, you really should be using "dnf repolist", but it's pretty
obvious you have F20 repos for the most part. You also seem to have
a local repo and that may be where your F23 stuff is coming from.

I did not create the local repo.
It is present in /etc/yum.repos.d/_local
and it contains:

[_local]
name=Automatic local repo. (manged by the "local" yum plugin).
baseurl=file:/var/lib/yum/plugins/local
enabled=1
gpgcheck=true
#  Metadata expire could be set to "never" because the local plugin will
# automatically cause a cache refresh when new packages are added. However
# it's really cheap to check, and this way people can dump stuff in whenever
# and it never gets out of sync. for long.
metadata_expire=1h
#  Make cost smaller, as we know it's "local". If you really want to be 
sure,
# you can do this ... but the name will do pretty much the same thing, 
and that

# way we can also see the other packages (with: --showduplicates list).
# cost=500

But I guarantee you I did not create that beast.
So, I went ahead and deleted it

Re: fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

2015-09-17 Thread jd1008



On 09/17/2015 07:19 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/17/2015 03:41 PM, jd1008 wrote:



On 09/16/2015 11:40 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:


yum repolist 

$ yum repolist


Less useful than I hoped, but I missed this from your first message:


/var/cache/system-upgrade/fedora/packages/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root jd  0 Sep 15 16:12 a2jmidid-8-9.fc23.x86_64.rpm


The "fedora" repo is the one with the bad URL.  Check the definition 
of that repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/



The fedora repos:
[fedora]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=1
#metadata_expire=7d
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch
skip_if_unavailable=False

[fedora-debuginfo]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Debug
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/debug/
metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-debug-$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=0
metadata_expire=7d
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch
skip_if_unavailable=False

[fedora-source]
name=Fedora $releasever - Source
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/source/SRPMS/
metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-source-$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=0
metadata_expire=7d
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch
skip_if_unavailable=False


[updates]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
metadata_expire=6h
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch
skip_if_unavailable=False

[updates-debuginfo]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates - Debug
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/debug/
metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-debug-f$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
metadata_expire=6h
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch
skip_if_unavailable=False

[updates-source]
name=Fedora $releasever - Updates Source
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/SRPMS/
metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-source-f$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
metadata_expire=6h
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$releasever-$basearch
skip_if_unavailable=False

Rawhide and Testing have   enabled=0 in all stanzas.


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sha256 sums

2015-09-18 Thread jd1008

Downloaded Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-22.iso
at least 3 times.
Each time, I computed the sha256 sum of the iso image.
And each time it was different to the sum in the file
Fedora-Workstation-22-x86_64-CHECKSUM

To wit:

$ grep SHA256 Fedora-Workstation-22-x86_64-CHECKSUM
Hash: SHA256
SHA256 (Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-22.iso) = 
c9d22e708b21336582b19b336b7063fc4b882be4cf96d4d0693de07bd66c25e8
SHA256 (Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso) = 
615abfc89709a46a078dd1d39638019aa66f62b0ff8325334f1af100551bb6cf


$ sha256sum Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso
37a3a23f9d2d01dc2b47660fcd7611cb2474f94a11ff208f38a52e16cbb5b263 
Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso


$ ll Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 jd jd 1161293611 Sep 18 16:21 
Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso



Then I found out why.

I had downloaded it from the mirror:

http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso

whereas the iso image at:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/22/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-3.iso

computes the correct sha256sum.

Thought I would bring this up for others to avoid.

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Re: fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

2015-09-18 Thread jd1008



On 09/18/2015 08:13 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote:

On 09/17/2015 06:27 PM, jd1008 wrote:

On 09/17/2015 06:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

Second, I wouldn't even attempt an update to F22 from here. I would
upgrade to F21 first with the local repo disabled.


Going the route of first installing f21 and then f22 is way too long
(i.e. time consuming, during which the computer is not being used
for more important things.


But it is also the only one officially supported.

You might be able to do a yum upgrade directly to Fedora 22 since no 
critical components have changed.


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_20_-.3E_Fedora_21 



PS. What does
$ rpm -q fedora-release
say?

$ rpm -q fedora-release
fedora-release-20-4.noarch
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yum upgrade stuck

2015-09-19 Thread jd1008

Stuck at:

--> Processing Conflict: mutter-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 conflicts 
gnome-shell < 3.16.1


For more then 2 hours :(

How do I resolve this?
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Re: yum upgrade stuck

2015-09-20 Thread jd1008



On 09/19/2015 08:41 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/19/2015 11:51 AM, jd1008 wrote:
--> Processing Conflict: mutter-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 conflicts 
gnome-shell < 3.16.1

...
How do I resolve this? 


Hard to say, since gnome-shell should be in the upgrade set.  Your 
system is in a weird state.  As has been suggested several times 
already, I think you will be best off doing a clean install.

Sigh!!!
So, upgrade is out the window :(

Guess I will save output of rpm -qa into an external drive,
then do a clean install of f22, or might even wait for the soon
to be released f23.

Cheers,

JD
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Re: yum upgrade stuck

2015-09-20 Thread jd1008



On 09/20/2015 04:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2015-09-20 at 12:52 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 09/19/2015 08:41 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/19/2015 11:51 AM, jd1008 wrote:

--> Processing Conflict: mutter-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 conflicts
gnome-shell < 3.16.1
...
How do I resolve this?

Hard to say, since gnome-shell should be in the upgrade set.  Your
system is in a weird state.  As has been suggested several times
already, I think you will be best off doing a clean install.

Sigh!!!
So, upgrade is out the window :(

Guess I will save output of rpm -qa into an external drive,
then do a clean install of f22, or might even wait for the soon
to be released f23.

What makes you think F23 is going to fix it? Sounds like there's a mess
you need to clean up first. Reinstalling is the simplest route.

poc


Well.. I did not say that.
To clarify, I meant that since I am going to do a full
fresh install (not upgrade), I might aw well wait for f23.

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Re: yum upgrade stuck

2015-09-20 Thread jd1008



On 09/20/2015 05:30 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:41:48 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:


On 09/19/2015 11:51 AM, jd1008 wrote:

--> Processing Conflict: mutter-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 conflicts
gnome-shell < 3.16.1
...
How do I resolve this?

Hard to say, since gnome-shell should be in the upgrade set.  Your
system is in a weird state.

Has any trouble-shooting been done to examine that "weird state"?

Not sure how to proceed on that. When yum get's stuck like that,
it does not give any technical details on why it is stuck trying to
resolve the conflict. Even the -v flag (which I have not tried yet)
might not reveal the underlying cause of the hang), but I will try
it.


gnome-shell >= 3.16.1 clearly is available for F22 in updates, but
that doesn't matter much, if there are duplicates installed, for
example.

None! No dups at all.


Typically, one submits a couple of rpm/dnf/repoquery based queries
to examine what is installed and what is available. Has that been
done yet?

Yes. No duplicates at all - but how would that help in understanding the
cause of the hang?



As has been suggested several times
already, I think you will be best off doing a clean install.

Only if there is no interest in fixing an otherwise still working
installation. ;-)

I do not mean to draw any fire here, so please withhold you ire  :) :)
Just my $.02's worth of some thoughts 

So far it seems to me that yum and dnf's internal operations,
being run by interpreted languages with many modules, it makes it
difficult, to say the least, to run a trace, such that one can see where
the failures occur (in what function, with what args), and where the
hangs occur, and what the values of the args are at the hang or failure 
points.

This is why I think binaries that are not stripped and not compiled with any
optimization, are ideal for implementing within them verbose debugging,
especially at critical points, within the source code.

Such debugging is ideal, but I understand, not always practical.

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Re: yum upgrade stuck

2015-09-22 Thread jd1008



On 09/22/2015 04:04 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 18:16:35 -0600, jd1008 wrote:


--> Processing Conflict: mutter-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64 conflicts
gnome-shell < 3.16.1
...
How do I resolve this?

Hard to say, since gnome-shell should be in the upgrade set.  Your
system is in a weird state.

Has any trouble-shooting been done to examine that "weird state"?

Not sure how to proceed on that.

   rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
   rpm -vv --rebuilddb
   yum check
   yum --debuglevel=255 update gnome-shell mutter

and the full output from that last command see what packages it's looking
at during the depsolving stage.

For comparison, "dnf update gnome-shell mutter", what does it do?
It's the default command with F22 instead of Yum.

For comparison, "pkcon update gnome-shell", what does it do?


Typically, one submits a couple of rpm/dnf/repoquery based queries
to examine what is installed and what is available. Has that been
done yet?

Yes. No duplicates at all - but how would that help in understanding the
cause of the hang?

Duplicates and dependency problems within the set of installed packages
can confuse the depsolvers.

/ Got frustrated and did a clean install of f22.
And that has some of it's own interesting issues.

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AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

2015-09-24 Thread jd1008

After getting AVC denial, I touched /.autorelabel and rebooted.
Took about 5 minutes to finish re-labeling.
Then, I started to ge more AVC denials.
I clicked on the denial icon and read the details.

Could someone please explain the argument in the suggested "solution" :
restorecon -v '#SharedObjects'

What in tarnation is '#SharedObjects'

The man page for semanage and for restorcon do not even
make use of such notation.

So, how is a user going to correctly interpret the meaning
of such an opaque item as '#SharedObjects' ?

The selinux troubleshoot says: (but does not explain where the 
#SharedObjects directory is )



If you want to allow plugin-containe to have read access on the 
#SharedObjects directory

Then you need to change the label on #SharedObjects
Do
# semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE '#SharedObjects'
where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: NetworkManager_etc_rw_t, 
NetworkManager_etc_t, abrt_etc_t, admin_home_t, aiccu_etc_t, 
alsa_etc_rw_t, alsa_home_t, antivirus_conf_t, antivirus_home_t, 
asterisk_etc_t, audio_home_t, auth_home_t, bin_t, bitlbee_conf_t, 
bluetooth_conf_t, boot_t, bootloader_etc_t, cache_home_t, cert_t, 
cgconfig_etc_t, cgrules_etc_t, chrome_sandbox_home_t, cluster_conf_t, 
cobbler_etc_t, condor_conf_t, config_home_t, config_usr_t, 
couchdb_conf_t, courier_etc_t, cpucontrol_conf_t, cupsd_etc_t, 
cupsd_rw_etc_t, cvs_home_t, data_home_t, dbus_home_t, dbusd_etc_t, 
ddclient_etc_t, device_t, devpts_t, dhcp_etc_t, dictd_etc_t, 
dnsmasq_etc_t, docker_config_t, docker_home_t, dosfs_t, dovecot_etc_t, 
etc_mail_t, etc_runtime_t, etc_t, exports_t, fetchmail_etc_t, 
fetchmail_home_t, file_context_t, fingerd_etc_t, firewalld_etc_rw_t, 
firstboot_etc_t, fonts_cache_t, fonts_t, ftpd_etc_t, gconf_etc_t, 
gconf_home_t, gdomap_conf_t, getty_etc_t, git_user_content_t, 
gkeyringd_gnome_home_t, gnome_home_t, gpg_secret_t, gpm_conf_t, 
gstreamer_home_t, hddtemp_etc_t, home_bin_t, home_cert_t, home_root_t, 
hostname_etc_t, httpd_config_t, httpd_modules_t, httpd_user_content_t, 
httpd_user_htaccess_t, httpd_user_ra_content_t, httpd_user_rw_content_t, 
httpd_user_script_exec_t, hugetlbfs_t, icc_data_home_t, iceauth_home_t, 
innd_etc_t, irc_conf_t, irc_home_t, irc_tmp_t, irssi_etc_t, 
irssi_home_t, kdump_etc_t, kismet_home_t, kmscon_conf_t, krb5_conf_t, 
krb5_home_t, krb5kdc_conf_t, l2tp_conf_t, lib_t, likewise_etc_t, 
lircd_etc_t, local_login_home_t, locale_t, lvm_etc_t, machineid_t, 
mail_home_rw_t, mail_home_t, man_cache_t, man_t, mandb_home_t, 
mcelog_etc_t, mdadm_conf_t, minidlna_conf_t, minissdpd_conf_t, mnt_t, 
mock_etc_t, modules_conf_t, mozilla_conf_t, mozilla_home_t, 
mozilla_plugin_rw_t, mozilla_plugin_tmp_t, mozilla_plugin_tmpfs_t, 
mpd_etc_t, mpd_home_t, mpd_user_data_t, mplayer_etc_t, mplayer_home_t, 
mrtg_etc_t, mscan_etc_t, munin_etc_t, mysqld_etc_t, mysqld_home_t, 
nagios_etc_t, named_conf_t, net_conf_t, nrpe_etc_t, nscd_var_run_t, 
nslcd_conf_t, ntop_etc_t, ntp_conf_t, nut_conf_t, openshift_var_lib_t, 
openvpn_etc_rw_t, openvpn_etc_t, openvswitch_rw_t, pads_config_t, 
pegasus_conf_t, pingd_etc_t, piranha_etc_rw_t, piranha_web_conf_t, 
polipo_cache_home_t, polipo_config_home_t, polipo_etc_t, 
portreserve_etc_t, postfix_etc_t, postgresql_etc_t, postgrey_etc_t, 
pppd_etc_t, prelude_correlator_config_t, printconf_t, proc_t, 
procmail_home_t, psad_etc_t, ptal_etc_t, pulseaudio_home_t, 
puppet_etc_t, qmail_etc_t, radiusd_etc_t, radvd_etc_t, rhnsd_conf_t, 
rlogind_home_t, root_t, rssh_ro_t, rssh_rw_t, rsync_etc_t, samba_etc_t, 
sandbox_file_t, sanlock_conf_t, screen_home_t, shell_exec_t, 
shorewall_etc_t, slapd_etc_t, snapperd_conf_t, snort_etc_t, 
soundd_etc_t, spamc_home_t, spamd_etc_t, speech-dispatcher_home_t, 
squid_conf_t, src_t, ssh_home_t, sssd_conf_t, sssd_public_t, 
stunnel_etc_t, svc_conf_t, svirt_home_t, sysctl_fs_t, sysctl_t, sysfs_t, 
syslog_conf_t, system_conf_t, system_db_t, systemd_home_t, 
systemd_logind_sessions_t, telepathy_cache_home_t, 
telepathy_data_home_t, telepathy_gabble_cache_home_t, 
telepathy_logger_cache_home_t, telepathy_logger_data_home_t, 
telepathy_mission_control_cache_home_t, 
telepathy_mission_control_data_home_t, telepathy_mission_control_home_t, 
telepathy_sunshine_home_t, texlive_home_t, textrel_shlib_t, tftpd_etc_t, 
thumb_home_t, tmp_t, tmpfs_t, tor_etc_t, tuned_etc_t, tuned_rw_etc_t, 
tvtime_home_t, udev_etc_t, udev_var_run_t, ulogd_etc_t, uml_ro_t, 
uml_rw_t, user_fonts_cache_t, user_fonts_config_t, user_fonts_t, 
user_home_dir_t, user_home_t, user_tmp_t, userhelper_conf_t, usr_t, 
var_lib_t, var_run_t, varnishd_etc_t, virt_content_t, virt_etc_t, 
virt_home_t, vmware_conf_t, vmware_file_t, vmware_sys_conf_t, 
webalizer_etc_t, wine_home_t, wireshark_home_t, xauth_home_t, xdm_etc_t, 
xdm_home_t, xdm_rw_etc_t, xserver_etc_t, ypserv_conf_t, zarafa_etc_t, 
zebra_conf_t.

Then execute:
restorecon -v '#SharedObjects'

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Text Console (vty ??)

2015-09-24 Thread jd1008

Fresh install of F22.
After login, and desktop (mate) comes up,
Cntrl-Alt-F[234567] do not work.
What is with Mate DT that I need to tweak?

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Re: AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

2015-09-24 Thread jd1008



On 09/24/2015 12:58 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

What AVC are you seeing?

On 09/24/2015 01:58 PM, jd1008 wrote:

After getting AVC denial, I touched /.autorelabel and rebooted.
Took about 5 minutes to finish re-labeling.
Then, I started to ge more AVC denials.
I clicked on the denial icon and read the details.

Could someone please explain the argument in the suggested "solution" :
restorecon -v '#SharedObjects'

What in tarnation is '#SharedObjects'

The man page for semanage and for restorcon do not even
make use of such notation.

So, how is a user going to correctly interpret the meaning
of such an opaque item as '#SharedObjects' ?

The selinux troubleshoot says: (but does not explain where the
#SharedObjects directory is )


If you want to allow plugin-containe to have read access on the
#SharedObjects directory
Then you need to change the label on #SharedObjects
Do
# semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE '#SharedObjects'
where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: NetworkManager_etc_rw_t,
NetworkManager_etc_t, abrt_etc_t, admin_home_t, aiccu_etc_t,
alsa_etc_rw_t, alsa_home_t, antivirus_conf_t, antivirus_home_t,
asterisk_etc_t, audio_home_t, auth_home_t, bin_t, bitlbee_conf_t,
bluetooth_conf_t, boot_t, bootloader_etc_t, cache_home_t, cert_t,
cgconfig_etc_t, cgrules_etc_t, chrome_sandbox_home_t, cluster_conf_t,
cobbler_etc_t, condor_conf_t, config_home_t, config_usr_t,
couchdb_conf_t, courier_etc_t, cpucontrol_conf_t, cupsd_etc_t,
cupsd_rw_etc_t, cvs_home_t, data_home_t, dbus_home_t, dbusd_etc_t,
ddclient_etc_t, device_t, devpts_t, dhcp_etc_t, dictd_etc_t,
dnsmasq_etc_t, docker_config_t, docker_home_t, dosfs_t, dovecot_etc_t,
etc_mail_t, etc_runtime_t, etc_t, exports_t, fetchmail_etc_t,
fetchmail_home_t, file_context_t, fingerd_etc_t, firewalld_etc_rw_t,
firstboot_etc_t, fonts_cache_t, fonts_t, ftpd_etc_t, gconf_etc_t,
gconf_home_t, gdomap_conf_t, getty_etc_t, git_user_content_t,
gkeyringd_gnome_home_t, gnome_home_t, gpg_secret_t, gpm_conf_t,
gstreamer_home_t, hddtemp_etc_t, home_bin_t, home_cert_t, home_root_t,
hostname_etc_t, httpd_config_t, httpd_modules_t, httpd_user_content_t,
httpd_user_htaccess_t, httpd_user_ra_content_t,
httpd_user_rw_content_t, httpd_user_script_exec_t, hugetlbfs_t,
icc_data_home_t, iceauth_home_t, innd_etc_t, irc_conf_t, irc_home_t,
irc_tmp_t, irssi_etc_t, irssi_home_t, kdump_etc_t, kismet_home_t,
kmscon_conf_t, krb5_conf_t, krb5_home_t, krb5kdc_conf_t, l2tp_conf_t,
lib_t, likewise_etc_t, lircd_etc_t, local_login_home_t, locale_t,
lvm_etc_t, machineid_t, mail_home_rw_t, mail_home_t, man_cache_t,
man_t, mandb_home_t, mcelog_etc_t, mdadm_conf_t, minidlna_conf_t,
minissdpd_conf_t, mnt_t, mock_etc_t, modules_conf_t, mozilla_conf_t,
mozilla_home_t, mozilla_plugin_rw_t, mozilla_plugin_tmp_t,
mozilla_plugin_tmpfs_t, mpd_etc_t, mpd_home_t, mpd_user_data_t,
mplayer_etc_t, mplayer_home_t, mrtg_etc_t, mscan_etc_t, munin_etc_t,
mysqld_etc_t, mysqld_home_t, nagios_etc_t, named_conf_t, net_conf_t,
nrpe_etc_t, nscd_var_run_t, nslcd_conf_t, ntop_etc_t, ntp_conf_t,
nut_conf_t, openshift_var_lib_t, openvpn_etc_rw_t, openvpn_etc_t,
openvswitch_rw_t, pads_config_t, pegasus_conf_t, pingd_etc_t,
piranha_etc_rw_t, piranha_web_conf_t, polipo_cache_home_t,
polipo_config_home_t, polipo_etc_t, portreserve_etc_t, postfix_etc_t,
postgresql_etc_t, postgrey_etc_t, pppd_etc_t,
prelude_correlator_config_t, printconf_t, proc_t, procmail_home_t,
psad_etc_t, ptal_etc_t, pulseaudio_home_t, puppet_etc_t, qmail_etc_t,
radiusd_etc_t, radvd_etc_t, rhnsd_conf_t, rlogind_home_t, root_t,
rssh_ro_t, rssh_rw_t, rsync_etc_t, samba_etc_t, sandbox_file_t,
sanlock_conf_t, screen_home_t, shell_exec_t, shorewall_etc_t,
slapd_etc_t, snapperd_conf_t, snort_etc_t, soundd_etc_t, spamc_home_t,
spamd_etc_t, speech-dispatcher_home_t, squid_conf_t, src_t,
ssh_home_t, sssd_conf_t, sssd_public_t, stunnel_etc_t, svc_conf_t,
svirt_home_t, sysctl_fs_t, sysctl_t, sysfs_t, syslog_conf_t,
system_conf_t, system_db_t, systemd_home_t, systemd_logind_sessions_t,
telepathy_cache_home_t, telepathy_data_home_t,
telepathy_gabble_cache_home_t, telepathy_logger_cache_home_t,
telepathy_logger_data_home_t, telepathy_mission_control_cache_home_t,
telepathy_mission_control_data_home_t,
telepathy_mission_control_home_t, telepathy_sunshine_home_t,
texlive_home_t, textrel_shlib_t, tftpd_etc_t, thumb_home_t, tmp_t,
tmpfs_t, tor_etc_t, tuned_etc_t, tuned_rw_etc_t, tvtime_home_t,
udev_etc_t, udev_var_run_t, ulogd_etc_t, uml_ro_t, uml_rw_t,
user_fonts_cache_t, user_fonts_config_t, user_fonts_t,
user_home_dir_t, user_home_t, user_tmp_t, userhelper_conf_t, usr_t,
var_lib_t, var_run_t, varnishd_etc_t, virt_content_t, virt_etc_t,
virt_home_t, vmware_conf_t, vmware_file_t, vmware_sys_conf_t,
webalizer_etc_t, wine_home_t, wireshark_home_t, xauth_home_t,
xdm_etc_t, xdm_home_t, xdm_rw_etc_t, xserver_etc_t, ypserv_conf_t,
zarafa_etc_t, zebra_conf_t.
Then execute:
restorecon -v '#SharedObjects'


It sems to have to 

Re: AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

2015-09-24 Thread jd1008



On 09/24/2015 02:00 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

semanage fcontext -a -e /home /YOURHOMEDIR
restorecon -R -v /YOURHOMEDIR

But /home is a symlink to /home on  another mount point.
Would not selinux be "savvy" enough to follow symlinks???
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Re: AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

2015-09-24 Thread jd1008



On 09/24/2015 04:54 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:20 PM, jd1008 wrote:

But /home is a symlink to /home on  another mount point.
Would not selinux be "savvy" enough to follow symlinks???


Following symlinks can be a security problem.  It is pretty common for 
that to be restricted by default


Rahul



Agreed.
Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

2015-09-25 Thread jd1008



On 09/25/2015 11:28 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

mount the directory there directly

You mean mount a partition as /home?
I do not have that.

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Re: AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

2015-09-25 Thread jd1008



On 09/25/2015 01:26 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:


On 09/25/2015 01:54 PM, jd1008 wrote:


On 09/25/2015 11:28 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

mount the directory there directly

You mean mount a partition as /home?
I do not have that.


Anyways where are your homedirs?

Went ahead and did a bind in /etc/fstab
and it is working OK.
I hope next relabel will not miss anything :)

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Re: set the tmp file for sed??

2015-09-26 Thread jd1008



On 09/26/2015 02:39 PM, bruce wrote:

Hey.

I know. This is probably really basic/subtle, but 'net searches are
coming up empty.

Doing testing of 'sed' it's generating tmp files in the base
directory. Is there a way that the 'sed' tmp dir can be set to '/tmp'.

A sample sed cmd would be

sed -i '/foo/cat/g' abc.dat
sed -i '/foo/d' abc.dat

thanks..

One minor error

sed -i 's/foo/cat/g' abs.dat
ditto for abs.dat

Man page says:

   s/regexp/replacement/

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Re: set the tmp file for sed??

2015-09-26 Thread jd1008



On 09/26/2015 04:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 15:30 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 09/26/2015 02:39 PM, bruce wrote:

Hey.

I know. This is probably really basic/subtle, but 'net searches are
coming up empty.

Doing testing of 'sed' it's generating tmp files in the base
directory. Is there a way that the 'sed' tmp dir can be set to
'/tmp'.

A sample sed cmd would be

sed -i '/foo/cat/g' abc.dat
sed -i '/foo/d' abc.dat

thanks..

One minor error

sed -i 's/foo/cat/g' abs.dat
ditto for abs.dat

Man page says:

 s/regexp/replacement/

 From "info sed":

The `s' command can be followed by zero or more of the following FLAGS:

`g' Apply the replacement to _all_ matches to the REGEXP, not just the first.

poc


Nothing wrong with the trailing g.
Nor did I say it was the error.
The trailing g says make the change on every match in the line.

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How to disable kaudit???

2015-09-28 Thread jd1008

Huge amounts of audit output in /var/log/messages.

How can we stop it? or completely disable it.

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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-09-28 Thread jd1008



On 09/28/2015 06:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 08:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:

Huge amounts of audit output in /var/log/messages.

How can we stop it? or completely disable it.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2015-July/463123.html


# systemctl stop auditd
Failed to stop auditd.service: Operation refused, unit auditd.service 
may be requested by dependency only.


# grep -Rl auditd /lib/systemd
./system/sysinit.target.wants/systemd-update-utmp.service
./system/crond.service
./system/auditd.service
./system/systemd-update-utmp.service
./system-preset/90-default.preset

So, which of these services needs to be stoped? disabled? hacked? in 
order to stop auditd.

Can it even be disabled without screwing up the system?


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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-09-28 Thread jd1008



On 09/28/2015 07:39 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

Well, I erased it, and all my systems work without any apparent issues.

Ranjan

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:35:25 -0600 jd1008  wrote:



On 09/28/2015 06:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 08:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:

Huge amounts of audit output in /var/log/messages.

How can we stop it? or completely disable it.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2015-July/463123.html


# systemctl stop auditd
Failed to stop auditd.service: Operation refused, unit auditd.service
may be requested by dependency only.

# grep -Rl auditd /lib/systemd
./system/sysinit.target.wants/systemd-update-utmp.service
./system/crond.service
./system/auditd.service
./system/systemd-update-utmp.service
./system-preset/90-default.preset

So, which of these services needs to be stoped? disabled? hacked? in
order to stop auditd.
Can it even be disabled without screwing up the system?



Ranjan Ji,

I have no idea what you removed (erased).

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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-09-28 Thread jd1008



On 09/28/2015 07:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 09:35 AM, jd1008 wrote:


On 09/28/2015 06:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 08:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:

Huge amounts of audit output in /var/log/messages.

How can we stop it? or completely disable it.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2015-July/463123.html


# systemctl stop auditd
Failed to stop auditd.service: Operation refused, unit auditd.service may be 
requested by dependency only.

It can't be stopped manually once it is started.  Look in the service file to 
see...

RefuseManualStop=yes

So, which of these services needs to be stoped? disabled? hacked? in order to 
stop auditd.
Can it even be disabled without screwing up the system?

If you want to completely disable auditd just do what the link provided tells 
you

stick audit=0 on the kernel command line options in grub.cfg, disable the 
auditd service (or uninstall it).

Others have done it with no ill effects.



Too many dependencies! :(

I will reboot and get back to you 

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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-09-28 Thread jd1008



On 09/28/2015 07:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 09:48 AM, jd1008 wrote:


On 09/28/2015 07:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 09:35 AM, jd1008 wrote:

On 09/28/2015 06:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/29/2015 08:37 AM, jd1008 wrote:

Huge amounts of audit output in /var/log/messages.

How can we stop it? or completely disable it.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2015-July/463123.html


# systemctl stop auditd
Failed to stop auditd.service: Operation refused, unit auditd.service may be 
requested by dependency only.

It can't be stopped manually once it is started.  Look in the service file to 
see...

RefuseManualStop=yes

So, which of these services needs to be stoped? disabled? hacked? in order to 
stop auditd.
Can it even be disabled without screwing up the system?

If you want to completely disable auditd just do what the link provided tells 
you

stick audit=0 on the kernel command line options in grub.cfg, disable the 
auditd service (or uninstall it).

Others have done it with no ill effects.



Too many dependencies! :(

Really?


[root@f22g ~]# dnf erase audit
Dependencies resolved.
==
  Package ArchVersion   Repository
Size
==
Removing:
  audit   x86_64  2.4.4-1.fc22  @System  
625 k
  setroubleshoot  x86_64  3.2.24-2.fc22 @System  
235 k
  setroubleshoot-plugins  noarch  3.0.61-1.fc22 @System  
5.1 M
  setroubleshoot-server   x86_64  3.2.24-2.fc22 @System  
1.2 M

Transaction Summary
==
Remove  4 Packages



Because of habit, I used yum instead of dnf. But I thought I should erase
4 or 5 packages whose names included the word audit, such as

yum erase audit-libs-python  audit-libs  audit-libs-devel  audit

and that belched out tons of dependencies.

The link you mentioned did not tell me how to erase.

Thanks for the heads up.



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brcmsmac bcma0:1: START: tid 1 is not agg'able

2015-09-28 Thread jd1008

Getting TONS of this message in /var/log/messages.

Is this an issue with the driver or the wifi card?
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dvdauthor

2015-09-29 Thread jd1008

I was able to dnf install dvdauthor
but unable to install (i.e. find) qdvdauthor
which is the gui interface to dvdauthor.
I have googled for a fedora rpm of it.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: dvdauthor

2015-09-30 Thread jd1008



On 09/30/2015 03:49 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 09/30/2015 12:04 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:



I was able to dnf install dvdauthor
but unable to install (i.e. find) qdvdauthor
which is the gui interface to dvdauthor.
I have googled for a fedora rpm of it.

Any help would be appreciated.

here? :
http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=qdvdauthor&submit=Search+...&system=&arch=

+1 !!!
I use rpmfind all the time, it not only searches for rpm's but also
files you might need ( dependencies)...

But it is not a fedora rpm. I wonder why fedora does have dvdauthor in 
it's repos,

but not it's qui front end qdvdauthor.

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Re: dvdauthor

2015-09-30 Thread jd1008



On 09/30/2015 11:49 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
Well, if anyone wants to try gdvdauthor I have successfully build a 
package. I can provide the source RPM or if there's sufficient 
interest, setup a COPR.


I threw it together pretty quickly but I did make reasonibly sure it's 
compliant with the packaging guidelines and addressed a few rpmlint items.


Thanks,
Richard



Will it build in fc22 ??

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Re: dvdauthor

2015-09-30 Thread jd1008

I built a source package:

qvqdvdauthor-2.3.1-1.4.58.fc22.src.rpm

If anyone is interested, I can upload it somewhere.

It builds (on my 64 bit F22):

qdvdauthor-2.3.1-1.4.58.fc22.x86_64.rpm
qdvdauthor-dv2sub-2.3.1-1.4.58.fc22.x86_64.rpm
qdvdauthor-debuginfo-2.3.1-1.4.58.fc22.x86_64.rpm


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Re: dvdauthor

2015-09-30 Thread jd1008



On 09/30/2015 12:56 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:07 PM, jd1008 <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:




On 09/30/2015 11:49 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:

Well, if anyone wants to try gdvdauthor I have successfully
build a package. I can provide the source RPM or if there's
sufficient interest, setup a COPR.

I threw it together pretty quickly but I did make reasonibly
sure it's compliant with the packaging guidelines and
addressed a few rpmlint items.


Will it build in fc22 ??


Should, I build it on F22 and rawhide (via mock).

Richard



As I already posted, I built a very recent (relatively) qdvdauthor.
If you want the srpm, let me know where I should upload it to.


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Strange problem if your login shell is /bin/ksh

2015-10-01 Thread jd1008

My shell is /bin/ksh

My gnome-terminal is configured to be opened as a login shell.

Upon opening gnome terminal,I get the following output:

/etc/profile.d/colorls.sh: line 4: return: can only `return' from a 
function or sourced script
/etc/profile.d/vte.sh: line 21: return: can only `return' from a 
function or sourced script



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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-10-13 Thread jd1008



On 09/28/2015 07:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

dnf erase audit

After running dnf erase audit (several days ago),
I am still getting tons of audit messages.
So, I thought that perhaps the command had not succeeded. I reran:
# dnf erase audit
No match for argument: audit
Error: No packages marked for removal.

Here is a small sample of audit messages:

[ 5325.515636] audit: type=1103 audit(1444760702.331:519): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 
subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:setcred 
grantors=pam_env,pam_unix acct="pcp" exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? 
addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5325.517632] audit: type=1006 audit(1444760702.333:520): pid=23219 
uid=0 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 old-auid=4294967295 
auid=982 old-ses=4294967295 ses=7 res=1
[ 5325.598820] audit: type=1101 audit(1444760702.415:521): pid=23222 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
msg='op=PAM:accounting grantors=pam_unix,pam_localuser acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 5325.601527] audit: type=1105 audit(1444760702.417:522): pid=23222 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
msg='op=PAM:session_open 
grantors=pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 5325.710879] audit: type=1130 audit(1444760702.527:523): pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
msg='unit=user@982 comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" 
hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 5325.713158] audit: type=1105 audit(1444760702.529:524): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:session_open 
grantors=pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5325.713964] audit: type=1110 audit(1444760702.530:525): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_unix acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5326.295285] audit: type=1104 audit(1444760703.111:526): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_unix acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5326.300074] audit: type=1106 audit(1444760703.116:527): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:session_close 
grantors=pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'


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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-10-13 Thread jd1008



On 10/13/2015 12:33 PM, jd1008 wrote:



On 09/28/2015 07:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

dnf erase audit

After running dnf erase audit (several days ago),
I am still getting tons of audit messages.
So, I thought that perhaps the command had not succeeded. I reran:
# dnf erase audit
No match for argument: audit
Error: No packages marked for removal.

Here is a small sample of audit messages:

[ 5325.515636] audit: type=1103 audit(1444760702.331:519): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 
subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:setcred 
grantors=pam_env,pam_unix acct="pcp" exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? 
addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5325.517632] audit: type=1006 audit(1444760702.333:520): pid=23219 
uid=0 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
old-auid=4294967295 auid=982 old-ses=4294967295 ses=7 res=1
[ 5325.598820] audit: type=1101 audit(1444760702.415:521): pid=23222 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
msg='op=PAM:accounting grantors=pam_unix,pam_localuser acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 5325.601527] audit: type=1105 audit(1444760702.417:522): pid=23222 
uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
msg='op=PAM:session_open 
grantors=pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 5325.710879] audit: type=1130 audit(1444760702.527:523): pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 
msg='unit=user@982 comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" 
hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 5325.713158] audit: type=1105 audit(1444760702.529:524): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:session_open 
grantors=pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5325.713964] audit: type=1110 audit(1444760702.530:525): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_unix acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5326.295285] audit: type=1104 audit(1444760703.111:526): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_unix acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'
[ 5326.300074] audit: type=1106 audit(1444760703.116:527): pid=23219 
uid=0 auid=982 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
msg='op=PAM:session_close 
grantors=pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd acct="pcp" 
exe="/usr/sbin/crond" hostname=? addr=? terminal=cron res=success'


I wonder if /etc/auditlibs.conf  (which on the face of it at least) seem 
to be
related to system audit : I tried to remove it (it is installed by erase 
audit-libs-2.4.4-1.fc22.x86_64):

# dnf erase audit-libs-2.4.4-1.fc22.x86_64
Dependencies resolved.
Error: The operation would result in removing the following protected 
packages: systemd, dnf.


So, why in tarnation are dnf and systemd dependent on the audit???
Is this not also a totally unnecessary intrusion??

If fedora wants to log and monitor all user's activities, why not make 
all such

packages dependent on each other so we cannot remove any of them -
which would quickly result in all savvy people to abandon fedora and 
similarly

minded distros altogether.




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Re: How to disable kaudit???

2015-10-13 Thread jd1008



On 10/13/2015 12:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 10/13/2015 11:33 AM, jd1008 wrote:

On 09/28/2015 07:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

dnf erase audit

After running dnf erase audit (several days ago),
I am still getting tons of audit messages.
So, I thought that perhaps the command had not succeeded. I reran:
# dnf erase audit
No match for argument: audit
Error: No packages marked for removal.


If you haven't stopped audit, or rebooted, it's still active. HTH, HAND.

Have rebooted many times.
Stopped it several times etc.


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Ooops - boot image crashed

2015-10-13 Thread jd1008

But I see nothing in /var/log about it.

I get that banner during login but it disappears and
I cannot copy it's contents.
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Importing external abook.mab

2015-10-14 Thread jd1008

It seems that TB cannot import adbook.mab directly.
One must first export it as one of the various text type files or vcard 
format.


This is strange, in the sense that TB cannot decode it's own created 
file format
and import it without burdening the user to do the exporting - 
especially since

the .mab file might come from a long dead account.

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Re: Importing external abook.mab

2015-10-14 Thread jd1008



On 10/14/2015 06:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 10/15/2015 08:00 AM, jd1008 wrote:

It seems that TB cannot import adbook.mab directly.
One must first export it as one of the various text type files or vcard format.

This is strange, in the sense that TB cannot decode it's own created file format
and import it without burdening the user to do the exporting - especially since
the .mab file might come from a long dead account.

But that is very easy to workaround.

1.  Take note of all the mab files in your T-Bird directory.
2.  Add a new address book
3.  Find the new mab file which is created
4.  Quit T-bird
5.  Copy old mab to the new mab, or just do a move
6.  Start T-Bird
7.  Done  (And I have done that many times)


So I have to end up with many .mab files?

Does TB look  into all of them when you start typing a recipient name 
and tries to auto-complete?


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Re: Importing external abook.mab

2015-10-14 Thread jd1008



On 10/14/2015 07:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 10/15/2015 09:14 AM, jd1008 wrote:


On 10/14/2015 06:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 10/15/2015 08:00 AM, jd1008 wrote:

It seems that TB cannot import adbook.mab directly.
One must first export it as one of the various text type files or vcard format.

This is strange, in the sense that TB cannot decode it's own created file format
and import it without burdening the user to do the exporting - especially since
the .mab file might come from a long dead account.

But that is very easy to workaround.

1.  Take note of all the mab files in your T-Bird directory.
2.  Add a new address book
3.  Find the new mab file which is created
4.  Quit T-bird
5.  Copy old mab to the new mab, or just do a move
6.  Start T-Bird
7.  Done  (And I have done that many times)


So I have to end up with many .mab files?

Nope

1.  Open address book GUI
2.  Highlight all the entries in the new address book.
3.  Drag and Drop to the original address book, usually "Personal Address Book"
4.  Delete the new address book

Does TB look  into all of them when you start typing a recipient name and tries 
to auto-complete?


Yes.


Thanx.
If TB will look into all .mab files for locating a recipient, then do I 
really need to put all contacts into one .mab file?

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Re: Importing external abook.mab

2015-10-14 Thread jd1008



On 10/14/2015 07:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 10/15/2015 09:31 AM, jd1008 wrote:

If TB will look into all .mab files for locating a recipient, then do I really 
need to put all contacts into one .mab file?

Your choice.  It sounded as if you weren't happy with having *many* mab files.

Because I did not know that TB would look into all of them when 
searching for a recipient name as I am typing that name.


Thanx!!

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OT: but could be useful to other users also

2015-10-16 Thread jd1008

Have external usb 3.0 drive.
Laptop has usb 2.0 ports, and 1 eSata-II port.
In order for me to get decent I/O throughput
with this drive, I need a cable that has usb 3.0 Micro-B male
connector on one and and male eSata connector on the other.
I do not know if this will require a protocol converter or not.
I have searched Ebay for such a cable, to no avail.
If anyone has more info to shed light on this, would be
appreciated.

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