Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote:
... but that's always the case with the myriad 
of fora which which I interact.


Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..."

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Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

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On 3/10/24 14:17, Dave Close wrote:

To me the analogy is, in the olden days, a company sending you postal
mail in care of the local post office, the PO sending you a post card
that something has arrived, and you having to go to the PO and show
your identification to retrieve the item. No one would have tolerated
that situation; why do we tolerate it on the Internet?


This is a GREAT analogy. You're absolutely right. Basically, the fora 
require you to open a browser/tab, log in, and only *then* can you read 
your message.


With email, it's passive. It comes in, you scan the subject, and decide 
what to do - discard, read, respond, or archive. No hoops to jump 
through, and you don't have to open another app to deal with it.


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Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/18/24 19:49, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with 
Xsane?Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job 
for me.


I use an HP Color LaserJet MFP M281fdw [1], and it works *okay*. I set 
up scan to email and scan to shared folder, so it definitely does what I 
need as regards scanning and printing.


But I will never buy another HP again. They screw you on the ink, and 
they are apparently using DRM so you can't use third party ink. Screw 
that. Never again.


[1] 
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/setup-user-guides/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m280-m281-multifunction-printer-series/model/14142491


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Re: Hotel wifi network - how to connect / ssh between 2 laptops

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On 3/22/24 11:09, Sbob wrote:

All


I have 2 laptops I need to connect for testing / coding via ssh, if I 
connect each to the hotel wifi I cannot connect across laptops with ssh, 
If I grab a wifi router and connect it to the hotel wifi and use the 
router's wifi will this work?



would it also work with a simple wifi extender?


Thanks for any advice


You will almost certainly not be able to connect between devices on a 
commercial wifi network. They don't want folks to attack other machines 
on the network. It would be a huge scandal if a hotel allowed a guest to 
connect to other guests' laptops.


If you want to connect between two laptops, I would just buy an ethernet 
cable (e.g. 
https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Ethernet-Gold-Plated-Connectors/dp/B00N2VILDM) 
and configure one laptop with a static ethernet ip address of something 
like 172.31.101.1 and the other with 172.31.101.2. Add them to your 
/etc/hosts file like:


172.31.101.1laptop1
172.31.101.2laptop2

Then each of them would have wifi access out to the Internet, and they'd 
be able to ssh into each other using "ssh laptop1" or "ssh laptop2" for 
any connections between them.


It's a small pain, but it's a LOT easier than trying to circumvent 
security on commercial wifi networks (which can get you kicked off the 
network or even kicked out of the hotel or business).


Hope this helps!

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Re: Hotel wifi network - how to connect / ssh between 2 laptops

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/22/24 12:24, bruce wrote:

Or...

You might talk with the front desk/data person. If a group came in for
a meeting and wanted to do what you describe, they might have an
additional solution for you to use!

Might be worth checking out.

good luck


That's a great point, but in my experience, trying to talk to the front 
desk about tech related issues is... challenging. ;-)


But Bruce is absolutely correct, they may be able to help you out, or 
give you the number for the helpdesk and see if they can help you out.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/24/24 18:43, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I've been trying to get an HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt to boot from dvd.
So far no luck.
I've managed to get DVD listed as the
first boot entry for both UEFI and legacy.
The machine seems to try and fail.
The error messages go by rather fast.
I think I've seem things like "invalid header" and "no such file",
but am not as sure as I'd like to be.
Most recently I tried and failed with
Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-39.1.5.iso

Any idea what I should try next?

My late girlfriend used it.
I remember her password,
which is why she is not on the sudo list.
I do not remember either the root password or my own.


Condolences on the loss of your girlfriend. I'm sorry.

If the system was set up for legacy BIOS mode, changing it to UEFI mode 
will typically mean that the UEFI can't "see" the necessary disk 
partitions you need to boot. I would set it back to however it was when 
you started trying this so it boot off your existing partitions.


You can also create bootable media using a USB thumb drive if you follow 
the instructions at 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/. 
There's a section on how to do it from Windows or MacOS, too.


To recover the root password, you can do this: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/reset-root-password/


Then you can log in with root privileges and recover whatever is on the 
disk.


If you need additional help, post here and we'll help.

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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/25/24 10:21, Michael Hennebry wrote:

Thanks folks.
Disabling UEFI mode did the trick,
though I do not understand why it was necessary.
I thought that recent Fedora DVDs worked with both legacy and UEFI.
The Fedora-WS-Live-39-1.5 DVD does have an EFI directory.

I didn't get a grub menu until disabling UEFI.


Fedora can install on either legacy BIOS mode or modern UEFI. But when 
it installs on UEFI systems, it creates a special partition mounted on
/boot/efi. If you boot a system which was installed in BIOS mode in UEFI 
mode, it doesn't see that partition and won't boot.


If you want to run Fedora in UEFI mode, I am relatively certain you have 
to reinstall (but I could absolutely be wrong). When I got a machine 
which supported UEFI, I initially turned off UEFI and Secure Boot 
because I'd heard horror stories about them with Linux. When I changed 
it to UEFI, I couldn't access my Linux installation. But since I had a 
backup of my home directory on another machine, I just nuked it and 
reinstalled, then restored my home directory.


I've actually set up my Linux machines so that they mount /home on an 
NFS file server in my home office. I can nuke my desktop and reinstall 
it in less than 10 minutes with a kickstart, and my home directory is 
unchanged. Makes it a lot easier when I do the inevitable "oops" and 
screw up my desktop.


As an aside: Using KVM virtualization has eliminated a lot of those 
"oops" moments. If I want to test software or something, I spin up a VM 
and test it there before I do it on my actual "production" workstation.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/25/24 11:01, Joe Zeff wrote:


If you have /home on its own partition, you don't even need to have it 
mounted on your file server.  Just do a custom partitioning (I presume 
that you can do that with a kickstart) mounting that partition as /home 
and not reformatting and Bob's your uncle.  I know, as I've been doing 
that for over two decades.


I did that for a long time (been using Linux since '94), but now I have 
10 gigabit ethernet between my desktop and my NFS server. It's fast as 
heck for /home.


When I realize I need to nuke my machine and start over, it's:

sudo -i
dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1
systemctl reboot
Choose the right kickstart from the menu.
Refill coffee.
Go back to working as if nothing happened. My home directory is there 
and my machine is reset to sane defaults.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/25/24 11:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 11:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:

dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1


What's that about?


If you overwrite the first few sectors of the drive (i.e. with the 
output of the dmesg command), it nukes the boot instructions. It causes 
my machine to PXE boot and I kickstart it.


Sorry, I should have been more clear about that. It could be anything. I 
used to use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nvme1n1 bs=1M count=1 but dmesg is 
quicker to type.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 3/25/24 11:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2024-03-25 at 11:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:

dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1


What's that about?

poc


To further clarify, my system uses NVMe drives (/dev/nvme0n1 and 
/dev/nvme1n1). So when I do dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1 as root, it overwrites 
the first few hundred k of the NVMe disk, nuking the partition tables 
and boot instructions and the like. Then when I reboot, it causes my 
machine to PXE boot. You can nuke any drive by writing to the first few 
sectors, so it could have been /dev/sda, /dev/vda, /dev/xvda, or whatever.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 3/25/24 21:57, Joe Zeff wrote:


In all the years I've been doing this I've never had it fail with a 
Fedora re-installation.  Of course, I always have a full backup of /home 
before I upgrade or re-install, JIK.


I've never had it fail, either. But *in my case* it makes more sense for 
me to use an NFS mounted /home and now I just don't worry about it at 
all. I use a kickstart which rebuilds my desktop in about as much time 
as it takes me to pour a coffee and put my cream and sugar into it.


Not saying it's the right thing for anyone else. I am saying it's the 
right thing for me, in my little home lab.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/1/24 00:25, Javier Perez wrote:

When I realize I need to nuke my machine and start over, it's:

sudo -i
dmesg > /dev/nvme1n1
systemctl reboot
Choose the right kickstart from the menu.
Refill coffee.
Go back to working as if nothing happened. My home directory is there
and my machine is reset to sane defaults.

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Neat! Is there a tutorial somewhere about how to do this?
Not that I know of. I saw it in some article decades ago. Basically, 
what you're doing is overwriting the first few k of the disk, which 
overwrites the boot instructions and partitions and the like.


Unless you're talking about kickstart or something else?
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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/1/24 15:57, Barry Scott wrote:


I tend to dd of a few MiB of zeros over the front of the disk.
A few KiB is often not enough.
In some cases you also need to overwrite at the end of the disk I have been 
told.

Barry


TMTOWTDI.

The dmesg output is generally *plenty* to nuke the boot sector and 
render the drive unbootable, triggering a PXE boot. Depending on your 
hardware, the boot sector is either 512 bytes or 4096 bytes (4K), and 
the output of dmesg is over 40K on my system. So I'm lazy and just do:


dmesg > /dev/[device]
systemctl reboot

I've known folks who do:

cat /var/log/messages > /dev/[device]
systemctl reboot

or

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[device] bs=1M count=1
systemctl reboot

and that works, too.

I've never heard of having to overwrite the end of the drive, but then, 
I've only been working with Linux professionally since 1995. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/1/24 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/1/24 15:03, Thomas Cameron wrote:
I've never heard of having to overwrite the end of the drive, but 
then, I've only been working with Linux professionally since 1995. 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


GPT has a backup copy stored in the last block of the disk.


You are absolutely correct. My poor little systems aren't big enough to 
use GPT volumes (mostly smaller KVM instances), so I didn't think about 
that. :-D


Although I'm relatively certain I've nuked GPT volumes on my hypervisors 
when I've rebuilt them, and they were not visible as volumes when I 
reinstalled the OS. I'll dig into that, now you have me curious.


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Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

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On 4/4/24 00:27, Javier Perez wrote:


I was talking about kickstart


Here you go:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f36/install-guide/advanced/Kickstart_Installations/

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

I usually "cheat" by building a system like I want it and then using the 
/root/anaconda-ks.cfg as a starting point for my kickstart.cfg file.


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Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

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On 4/11/24 12:19, home user wrote:
(f-38; stand-alone work station; nvidia graphics card; dual monitor; 
kmod 4xx driver)


I just finished doing a "dnf upgrade" as a prerequisite step to 
upgrading from f-38 to f-39.
There were no hints of any problems.  The kernel and the graphics driver 
were replaced during this "dnf upgrade".

The akmods did finish before I rebooted.
The shutdown took 5 minutes because it ran akmods (a second time?!).
During the boot-up, there was a message that it was failing back to 
nouveau.
The display is not working properly; only one monitor is being used and 
everything is oversized in the display.
I am not comfortable proceeding with the f-38 to f-39 upgrade with the 
work station in this condition.


Important: I have only one old kernel.  I have no rescue kernel.

How do I get this workstation working properly?


I just ran into that exact same issue on RHEL 9 instead of Fedora.

I wound up uninstalling all the RPMFusion packages and reinstalling 
them, but it didn't help. I waited til all the gcc and depmod and xz 
processes completed, it ain't my first rodeo. Still no joy.


I finally just nuked all the RPMFusion packages and downloaded the 
drivers directly from https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx and ran 
the installer from there. It works fine again. I hate to do it, because 
I really prefer the RPMs, but I *had* to get back to work and my desktop 
was toast. Three of my four monitors weren't working.


Sorry I don't have better advice, but I feel like something went south 
in the RPMFusion packages.


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Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

[Thomas Cameron]

On 4/15/24 14:02, home user wrote:

On 4/11/24 11:19 AM, home user wrote:





There's
1.
(Thomas)
I finally just nuked all the RPMFusion packages and downloaded the 
drivers directly from https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx and 
ran the installer from there. It works fine again.


(Todd)

I can tell you that building the 2 or 3 nvidia 470xx packages
works well for the later 6.7 and current 6.8 kernels.


and there's
2.
(John)
AIUI we are moving from X11 graphics towards Wayland, which the nvidia 
driver will not support...


(Michael)
So, not sure if this is a kernel issue, or the driver issue, but seems 
neither rpmfusiong or nvidia's driver will work any longer?


These seem to me to be inconsistent with each other.  What am I missing?

B. nvidia and Fedora.

 From posts in this thread, I gather that
1. nvidia users can no longer use Fedora, and


That's not AT ALL what I said. I was able to use the NVidia drivers from 
NVidia's web site just fine. Others mentioned they did the same.



2. Fedora users can no longer use nvidia.


Again, I didn't see ANYTHING that intimated that.


Is this correct?


Nope. I've been using Linux since 1995. NVidia drivers have ALWAYS been 
problematic. RPMFusion has done amazing work trying to make it less 
onerous, but often times NVidia makes changes that catch third parties 
like RPMFusion unawares. I *feel* like this is just another case of 
this. It stinks, but it's not the end of the world. Either wait til this 
gets fixed by the volunteer developers at RPMFusion (and be cool to 
them, most are working out of love for the community), or install the 
NVidia drivers from NVidia web site. You'll be fine.


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Re: can I clone from a usb flash drive to an NVMe drive?

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I'd be surprised if you could. The USB drive root filesystem is usually 
run on /dev/sda. If you're trying to clone it to /dev/nvme*, it may very 
well not work. I would do something like set up a kickstart so that you 
can install the system with all the preferred package groups.


Thomas

On 4/29/24 19:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I am making up a USB flash from of Fedroa 40 MATE for
a customer to play with.

If he likes it, can I clonezilla clone it over
to his brand new NVMe drive (gpart it to expand
the extents)?

-T

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Re: How do I Contact the Rpmfusion List?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/10/24 5:18 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
     I have installed Jellyfin from rpmfusion by following the 
instructions on the Jellyfin web site for Fedora.
     After activating Developer Mode on my TV I used Docker to install 
the Jellyfin client on the TV.
     I ran the Jellyfin script to open up Jellyfin in Firewalld (After 
starting FirewallD as the service seemed to not have been activated 
after the upgrade to F40).
     I then enabled and started the Jellyfin service on my pc to start 
the server.
     When I invoke Jellyfin on the TV and supply the require IP address 
of my pc and required port, the Jellyfin client tells me the server (I 
think) needs to be upgraded and gives me the Github URL to get the upgrade.
     Hence I need to approach the Rpmfusion guys to see if they can 
upgrade the server to the latest version.


regards,
Steve


Have a look at https://rpmfusion.org/ReportingBugs - it tells you to 
open a bug at https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/.


You can also contact the developers at 
https://lists.rpmfusion.org/archives/ but that's not the ideal. Follow 
the instructions about reporting bugs.


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Re: Seamonkey not displaying pix

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On 6/26/24 10:25 AM, Beartooth wrote:

Seamonkey under the last several releases of Fedora Linux does not
display pix. It says, inter alia, "Error: could not load." It also gives
me a link to Media Viewer; but the help page for that is over my head.

I tried posting via Gmane to seamonkey.user, but have had no
replies. I tried dnf reinstall seamonkey (with seamonkey not open), but
that didn't help.

It used to be a good browser. Can I fix it


If I remember correctly, recent Seamonkey updates were wonky with 
previous builds of Seamonkey.


I want to say I exited Seamonkey, renamed my ~/.mozilla/seamonkey 
directory to something like ~/.mozilla/seamonkey.old, and launched 
Seamonkey again to rebuild my profile and it worked.


I only use it for the HTML editor, not the browser. But last time I had 
wonky behavior, renaming that directory reset it to defaults and my 
issues went away.


Give that a try and let us know?

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Re: F40 kernel 6.9.* and VMware 17.5.* question

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/26/24 2:56 PM, Mark C. Allman via users wrote:
Anyone have VMware Workstation or Player 17.5.1 or 17.5.2 working on the 
6.9.* kernels? The kernel modules from VMware haven't worked in quite a 
while. They don't compile for the 6.9.* kernels, and, if I'm remembering 
correctly, they don't compile when running the 6.8.* kernels either.


I have the code for vmnet and vmmon from 
https://github.com/mkubecek/vmware-host-modules/tree/workstation-17.5.1. 
There are all kinds of exceptions when the kernel modules are loaded at 
boot time. I tried running vmplayer as a test -- it "ran" but trashed 
the kernel and required hard reboots. One of the tests totally bricked 
my laptop (that was fun to recover).


I'm currently running kernel 6.9.5-200.fc40.x86_64and all packages are 
up to date. The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 7591, Core i7-10510U CPU, 16GB 
of ram.
Not telling you how to compute, just curious: why not just use native 
KVM? I use KVM on my workstation to virtualize RHEL 7, RHEL8, RHEL9, 
Windows 2022, Windows 2019, Windows 10 and Windows 11. It Just Works(TM).


Since Broadcom has told us all to kick rocks, maybe consider using 
native Linux virtualization?


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Re: Seamonkey not displaying pix

[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/28/24 10:51 AM, Beartooth wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:55:32 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:


On 6/26/24 10:25 AM, I Beartooth wrote:

Seamonkey under the last several releases of Fedora Linux does not
display pix. It says, inter alia, "Error: could not load." It also
gives me a link to Media Viewer; but the help page for that is over my
head. []
It used to be a good browser. Can I fix it


If I remember correctly, recent Seamonkey updates were wonky with
previous builds of Seamonkey.

I want to say I exited Seamonkey, renamed my ~/.mozilla/seamonkey
directory to something like ~/.mozilla/seamonkey.old, and launched
Seamonkey again to rebuild my profile and it worked.


I did that, and rebooted.


I only use it for the HTML editor, not the browser. But last time I had
wonky behavior, renaming that directory reset it to defaults and my
issues went away.

Give that a try and let us know?


The result did show pix, but everything was all wonky, and the
machine way way slow.


That's bizarre. I'm using Seamonkey as my HTML editor on my F40 machine 
and it's just fine. I just went to a number of web sites and it seems 
pretty normal. You "reset it to factory defaults" and it's still acting 
weird. Is it using a lot of memory or CPU?


Sorry I don't have any better advice, Beartooth.

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Re: make a bootable dvd

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/8/24 10:01 AM, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

I downloaded the f40 iso for a worksation, but I did not see on the 
fedora website how to burn a bootable DVD with this iso file


Maybe someone can tell me how to proceed.

google indicates this for windows  no windows at home.

I prefer to use command line.

Thank you.


The easiest way is to just dd the iso file to a USB stick and boot off that.

This shows you the USB drive. On my system, I have two drives internal 
drives, so my USB drive shows up as sdc:


lsblk

Once you've identified the USB drive, use dd to write it to the USB. In 
my case, it's /dev/sdc:


dd if=/path/to/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-40-1.14.iso of=/dev/sdc

Make sure your USB drive is large enough for the whole ISO file to be 
written to it.


I also recommend Ventoy for booting off multiple ISO files:

https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

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Re: OT: motherboard

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/10/24 11:59 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone have a favorite uATX motherboard that
supports ECC and is Fedora 40 friendly?


Hey, Todd -

Depends on what you're doing. I have a homelab with a bunch of older 
Proliant servers I use for education and testing. Speed is not a huge 
requirement, I just use them for virtualization and learning. You can 
get older servers (Gen 9 and Gen 10) pretty cheap from eBay and 
ServerMonkey.com and SaveMyServer.com. I've had fantastic luck from 
ServerMonkey and SaveMyServer. Good warranty, excellent customer 
service, etc. I'm not affiliated with them, just a happy customer.


If you're looking for a new server class machine, as Richard mentioned, 
ASUS has a good motherboard selection. I've been happy with very 
Gigabyte in the past, but I've heard rumblings that their quality may 
have lowered lately. I don't personally have any evidence of that, it's 
just something I saw someone mention in a forum and some folks chimed in 
in agreement.


Can you tell us more about what it is you're trying to accomplish? It'd 
be easier to make recommendations based on budget, machine role, etc.


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Re: nvidia drivers installation

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/15/24 4:05 PM, François Patte wrote:

Le 2024-07-14 10:50, François Patte a écrit :

Bonjour,

According to some howto, it is enough to install akmods-nvidia and
reboot. some others tell that we have to generate and install some
signature

I have secure boot enabled.

Is there some how-to explaining with details how to proceed.   I'm not
very good with efi boot system nor secure boot.


I installed the nvidia driver:

dnf install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda

then I enrolled the new keys for nvidia with mokutil:

mokutil --import /tc/pki/akmods/certs/public_key_der

rebooted the machine and was promted to give the password I gave for 
mokutil


The boot came without any problem and the nvidia driver was loaded...

BUT when I rebooted the machine I got a black screen

I could recover editing the kernel command line from the grub splash 
screen and removed the instructions to blacklist nouveau but now the 
X-session does not start and I have to log from a console and startx.


I would like to restore the behavior of the boot before my attempt to 
install nvidia driver: what is the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX to start an X 
session with nouveau driver?


Next, I will try to understant what went wrong with the nvidia driver. 
Any clue?


I've always just done:

dnf autoremove akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda

as root, then reboot, to restore the system to how it was when I started.

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Re: change the default dns on fedora 40

[Thomas Cameron]

On 7/23/24 7:31 AM, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

I try to change the default dns configured by my ISP on a fedora 40.

Once upon a time it was easy: just change the file /etc/resolv.conf 
now


So, according to some information got from the internet, I created a 
directory

/usr/lib/systemd/resolved.conf.d/

then wrote a file in this directory named fdn.conf with:

[Resolve]

DNS=80.67.169.12#ns0.fdn.fr 2001:910:800::12#ns0.fdn.fr
DNSSEC=yes
DNSOverTLS=yes

and restarted systemd-resolved.service (and NetworkManager), but this 
does not worked...


dig -x 2a01:cb14:81da:2800:3649:5bff:fe29:3ce0

returns:

;; communications error to 127.0.0.53#53: timed out
;; communications error to 127.0.0.53#53: timed out
;; communications error to 127.0.0.53#53: timed out

What did I miss?

Thank you.


I've had great luck with either using nmtui to change my DNS (the 
easiest way).


You can use Cockpit to do it as well. Enable the cockpit socket:

sudo systemctl enable cockpit.socket --now

Open your browser and go to localhost:9090

Escalate privileges, then go to networking and change it there.

You can also do it from the command line:

Let's say you want to use the Google DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, 
and you want to ignore any DNS server which is defined in DHCP. Here's 
the syntax. It's three commands. Replace [interface] with the actual 
interface you want to change:


nmcli con mod [interface] ipv4.dns "8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" 
ipv4.ignore-auto-dns yes


nmcli con down [interface]

nmcli con up [interface]

That *should* get you what you want. Holler if you have any questions.

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Re: Reboot timeout

[Thomas Cameron]

On 8/22/24 5:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

When I reboot the system, there's a delay of around a minute before
anything happens. This is a single-user desktop and I really don't need
to stare at a spinner for so long. Is there a setting somewhere that
lets me change this? I'm aware of 'reboot -f' but I assume that would
normally be too drastic.


Hey, Patrick -

You probably already know this but... When the system is shutting down, 
if you hit the escape key, it will change from graphical to text mode. 
You should be able to see what it's hung doing while shutting down.


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Re: AVC error in cron script

[Thomas Cameron]

On 9/10/24 5:30 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I have a cron line that attempts to restart httpd every morning, but
it's failing with an AVC error:

Sep 10 08:00:00 Bree CROND[723189]: (root) CMD ((echo "$(date): Apache: calling restart") 
>> /var/log/httpd/my-log && /usr/sbin/apachectl restart)
Sep 10 08:00:00 Bree systemd[1]: selinux: avc:  denied  { start } for auid=n/a uid=0 gid=0 
path="/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service" cmdline="" 
function="bus_unit_method_start_generic" scontext=system_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:httpd_unit_file_t:s0 tclass=service permissive=0

My SElinux-fu is not up to this. Any thoughts?


Patrick -

I did a presentation at Red Hat Summit on SELinux a few years ago. If 
you're willing to spend about 45 minutes, you can learn some tools to 
figure out why it's throwing that error and how to fix or report it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WOKRaM-HI4

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Installing Windows XP under KVM

[Thomas Cameron]

This might have been covered elsewhere, if so I'm sorry for the noise.

I tried to install XP SP3 as a KVM guest yesterday and it just hung at
"installing devices."  The little flashing scroll bar at the bottom of
the page was still going, and it was pingable, but the installation
progress bar stalled and the installation never completed.  I couldn't
find any references to this issue via Google (although it's certainly
possible I was not searching with the right terms).

I popped onto #fedora on Freenode and found someone else who had had the
same issue.  He suggested trying an older version of XP and I did.  It
worked fine.

So, if you run into problems with XP SP3 as a KVM guest, try an older
version.

Just wanted to post this in case anyone else ran into it.  Hope it's
helpful.

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Re: "Be excellent to each other" / Call people out for doin a good job

[Thomas Cameron]

On 05/11/2010 10:46 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> I was disappointed when I read through the Go / No Go meeting log tonight
> when I read that we would have to slip. Then I remembered the evidence of
> hard work I observed over the last couple of weeks and thought, that people
> are going to notice the slip and grumble about that and forget about the
> hard work a number of people put in trying to get a release we could be
> proud of out on the 18th.
> 
> So I acknowledged some of that on the devel list.
> 
> Then I thought about it some more and contrasted it to some of the mailing
> list issues with people making mostly negative comments when something goes
> wrong or when people had disagreements. And what I thought is that we don't
> do enough calling each other out for going above and beyond (either as
> a volunteer or a even a Redhat employee).
> 
> I think partly is that we expect people to do a good job on Fedora and even
> most of the people who participate are self motiviated or they wouldn't
> be here. Still, I think being publically acknowledged by your peers for
> doing something good is something that almost everyone appreciates.
> 
> I wasn't sure where to post this, as a lot of the people who should see this
> probably don't read the users list. But I didn't want to put this on just
> the devel list or the test lists, because I really think it is something
> that should be done more by all teams. So I went with users and hope that
> things will perculate back to various teams.
> 
> I think Paul is pretty good about doing this, but I think relying on the FPL
> to do it all requires that he know about it and puts an extra burden on him.
> I think this is something we all should be doing.
> 
> So when you see someone put in extra effort that affects you positively,
> please consider thanking the person publically.
> 
> Some recent examples I have noticed:
> 
> Mike McGrath promptly dealt with an outage on a weekend a week or so ago.
> I assume that Mike has a life and had to stop something he was doing that
> was either fun or needed to be done in order to deal with getting koji/bodhi
> working again.
> 
> Jesse Keating worked hard building RC images and spins this last week in
> the run up to today's go / no go meeting. He ended up dealing with at least
> a few things he really shouldn't have had to, but took care of them.
> 
> The testing / QA teams. It looked to me like the testing and QA folks
> were working hard to figure out the causes of blocker bugs, get them fixed
> and then tested. I don't know their names, but maybe Adam would like to
> single some of them out for recognition?

To be honest, I couldn't even imagine where to begin.  I stand in awe of
everyone from the deep-dive developers to the docs team to the
translation volunteers to the UI developers, both at Red Hat and in the
community.  Sometimes I get to feeling like I know a fair amount about
Linux, but then I start following some of the threads on fedora-devel
and I'm instantly humbled.

As someone who typically works with RHEL, not Fedora, every time I get
to fire up a Fedora box I am just blown away at how cool it is, and how
rapidly it expands and improves.

So I can't really single any one person out, but I can say that I am
incredibly grateful to - and humbled by - everyone who participates in
the Fedora project.

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Video card for three heads?

[Thomas Cameron]

All -

I'm currently dual head and I like it a lot, but I'd really like three
monitors.  I use the heck out of compiz, so I need a card or cards and
drivers which will drive three monitors with accelerated X.

Anyone doing this?  What card/driver combo do you use?

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Re: AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 03/22/2010 10:06 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Sam Sharpe  > wrote:
> 
> On 22 March 2010 22:36, Marcel Rieux  > wrote:
> > Suse uses AppArmor without kernel integration and I'm not sure
> what support
> > they offer for the project. They bought AppArmor and later licensed
> > everybody except maybe 2 developers (not sure).
> >
> > Anyways, Novell is pretty much a living dead. Its Novell business
> is, of
> > course, dead and Suse still lives because it's on a live support
> line from
> > Microsoft.
> 
> Do yourself a favour. Don't try to pass your opinions off as fact.
> Novell is very much alive.
> 
> 
> I must confess that I'm not very strong on opinions; I'm better on facts.

Then you should probably try finding some.  The drivel below is complete
fantasy.

> 2006. Microsoft sends a letter to Red Hat pretending that the Linux
> kernel infringes 235 of their patents and that they'll have to pay
> royalties. 

Wrong.

> Red Hat answers: "Yeah, no problem! Send the patent list."
> Somehow, it seems that Microsoft lost the list. Red Hat, who was eager
> to pay, never received it.

So wrong as to be laughable.  Red Hat has maintained all along that
there is nothing to pay, that Microsoft has never actually provided
evidence of any infringement.  Red Hat made crystal clear that it did
not enter into any patent agreement with Microsoft when it did the
cross-certification work last year around running Windows as a guest on
on RHEL and running RHEL as a guest on Windows.

See Q5 at http://www.redhat.com/promo/svvp/

> Novell, on the other side, didn't ask for the list. They crawled to
> Microsoft asking no question and signed. Of course, the deal wasn't that
> bad.
> 
> "The deal involves upfront payment of $348 million from Microsoft to
> Novell for patent cooperation and SLES subscription. Novell will pay
> around $40 million to Microsoft over 5 years."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell#Agreement_with_Microsoft
> 
> http://www.google.ca/search?q=novell+2006+%24348+million
> 
> In other words, Microsoft paid ~$148 million to drive a wedge into the
> Linux community and Novell was glad to comply.
> 
> Here's the result:
> 
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=NOVL&annual
> 
> 
> Now, the shares are gaining on an "offer" of a $2B buyout... which the
> Novell board of course refused as way too low.
> 
> People usually have opinions to make up for their ignorance of facts.

Seriously - next time you pump this crap onto the list, please check
your facts.
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Re: AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/03/2010 07:12 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> Microsoft's patent infringement list with a check book in hand?
> Interesting...
> 
> Red Hat is no place for Olympia Academy style pranksters, just for brain
> dead serious people, right?
> 
> Google, you better beware!
> 
> Thanks for the insight!
> 


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Re: Desktop problem

[Thomas Cameron]

I have a shell script I use to "reset" my default desktop environment. 
It keeps my important stuff like my ~/.ssh directory, mail directories 
and so on.  To use it, I log out of GNOME, run it, and log back in.

[tcame...@case ~]$ cat ~/bin/cleardots
#!/bin/bash
ls -ad .* | egrep -v 
"bash|elluminate|evolution|gnupg|mozilla|pan2|procmail|purple|rpmmacros|sig|ssh|skype|thunderbird|vpngui"|xargs
 
rm -rf

Hope this makes sense to you.  It resets my desktop back to defaults 
while keeping my important dot files.

On 08/14/2010 12:56 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> Hi
>
> Using default install..
>
> Gnome desktop
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 8/14/10, binary...@comcast.net  wrote:
>>On 08/14/2010 11:22 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am using Fedora 12 and something happen to the desk top
>>>
>>> I no longer have the icons in the upper left corner of my desk top.
>>>
>>> I had a firefox crash a couple days ago.  I wonder if the two are
>>> connected..
>>>
>>> Anyway, is there an easy way to get the menu back?
>>>
>>> Firefox had its own icon so I can still do email.
>>>
>>> I guess I could revert back to an earlier kernel and see if everything
>>> is OK there?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Marvin
>> It sounds like your using KDE-4.
>>
>> Start over with your desktop by deleting .kde and logout than log back
>> in and reform your desktop.
>>
>> When reforming your KDE Panel put the Task manager on first, System
>> Tray, Digital Clock, Notifier and so on,
>> and in that sequence.
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Re: Desktop problem

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/14/2010 08:55 PM, JD wrote:
> You must know that
> .* matches
> the directory .
> and the directory ..
>
> To wit:
>
> $ echo .*
> . ..  .AbiSuite .adobe .alias .amaya .amazonmp3 .asoundrc .aspell.en.prepl
>
> Notice . and .. ???

Yup, and they are unaffected using this script.

> If you want to pick up onlythe dot files, then use
> .[a-zA-Z]*
>
> $ echo .[a-zA-Z]*
> .AbiSuite .adobe .alias .amaya .amazonmp3 .asoundrc .aspell.en.prepl
> I have a bazillion dot files in my home dir. I only copied and pasted a few.

Totally unnecessary, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.

TC
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Re: Desktop problem

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/14/2010 08:55 PM, JD wrote:
>On 08/14/2010 06:42 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> I have a shell script I use to "reset" my default desktop environment.
>> It keeps my important stuff like my ~/.ssh directory, mail directories
>> and so on.  To use it, I log out of GNOME, run it, and log back in.
>>
>> [tcame...@case ~]$ cat ~/bin/cleardots
>> #!/bin/bash
>> ls -ad .* | egrep -v
>> "bash|elluminate|evolution|gnupg|mozilla|pan2|procmail|purple|rpmmacros|sig|ssh|skype|thunderbird|vpngui"|xargs
>> rm -rf
>>
>> Hope this makes sense to you.  It resets my desktop back to defaults
>> while keeping my important dot files.
>>
>> On 08/14/2010 12:56 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Using default install..
>>>
>>> Gnome desktop
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/14/10, binary...@comcast.netwrote:
>>>>  On 08/14/2010 11:22 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Fedora 12 and something happen to the desk top
>>>>>
>>>>> I no longer have the icons in the upper left corner of my desk top.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a firefox crash a couple days ago.  I wonder if the two are
>>>>> connected..
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, is there an easy way to get the menu back?
>>>>>
>>>>> Firefox had its own icon so I can still do email.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I could revert back to an earlier kernel and see if everything
>>>>> is OK there?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Marvin
>>>> It sounds like your using KDE-4.
>>>>
>>>> Start over with your desktop by deleting .kde and logout than log back
>>>> in and reform your desktop.
>>>>
>>>> When reforming your KDE Panel put the Task manager on first, System
>>>> Tray, Digital Clock, Notifier and so on,
>>>> and in that sequence.
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>
> You must know that
> .* matches
> the directory .
> and the directory ..
>
> To wit:
>
> $ echo .*
> . ..  .AbiSuite .adobe .alias .amaya .amazonmp3 .asoundrc .aspell.en.prepl
>
> Notice . and .. ???
>
> If you want to pick up onlythe dot files, then use
> .[a-zA-Z]*
>
> $ echo .[a-zA-Z]*
> .AbiSuite .adobe .alias .amaya .amazonmp3 .asoundrc .aspell.en.prepl
> I have a bazillion dot files in my home dir. I only copied and pasted a few.

To be clear:

[tcame...@wintermute ~]$ cleardots
rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'

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Re: Desktop problem

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/14/2010 09:46 PM, JD wrote:
>On 08/14/2010 07:34 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
>> Thomas Cameron wrote:
>>> On 08/14/2010 08:55 PM, JD wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you want to pick up onlythe dot files, then use
>>>> .[a-zA-Z]*
>>>>
>>>> $ echo .[a-zA-Z]*
>>>> .AbiSuite .adobe .alias .amaya .amazonmp3 .asoundrc .aspell.en.prepl
>>>> I have a bazillion dot files in my home dir. I only copied and pasted a 
>>>> few.
>>>>
>>> Totally unnecessary, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.
>>>
>> Why do folks insist on using . files rather than making them visible?
>> Makes troubleshooting hell.
>>
>> James McKenzie
>>
> I do not know the history of why they chose dot files AND make them
> invisible to the shell.
> But one thought comes to mind is perhaps to make ls (without -a) present
> a less cluttered view?
> Maybe someone with info on the first bell labs unix version 6 has more
> detailed knowledge of this.
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_files is a good start.  Basically, it's 
a method whereby apps can write individual configs on a per-user basis 
without "cluttering" the view of the user's home directory.
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Somewhat OT - can underpowered power supplies damage a system?

[Thomas Cameron]

Say, hypothetically, I have 8 identical Intel DG45ID motherboard-based 
system with 8GB memory and a single drive with a cheap-o generic 300w 
power supply.  All running Linux, so sorta on-topic.

Say those systems have been running for over a year, but lately they've 
been really flaky.  Random lockups, sometimes they boot with garbage 
characters on the screen instead of the normal OS boot, sometimes they 
hang at various parts of the boot sequence, spontaneous reboots when 
kickstarting.

Say the Antec web site says I need more like a 350w power supply, and I 
read somewhere that PSUs tend to age and get less efficient over time, 
so I am guessing that I've been starving these things for juice for 
weeks or maybe months.

Hypothetically, could I have actually damaged these systems if the PSU 
was under-powered?  Or would a new, higher powered PSU fix the problems 
I've seen?

I would guess that too much juice might hurt the systems, but would too 
little actually damage anything?

I know it's not thermal, they're in a very cold room with dedicated HVAC 
and the airflow is great.

Hoping someone who knows more about electronics can chime in.

Thanks
Thomas
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Re: Somewhat OT - can underpowered power supplies damage a system?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/18/2010 02:34 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 00:27 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> Say, hypothetically, I have 8 identical Intel DG45ID motherboard-based
>> system with 8GB memory and a single drive with a cheap-o generic 300w
>> power supply.  All running Linux, so sorta on-topic.
>>
>> Say those systems have been running for over a year, but lately they've
>> been really flaky.  Random lockups, sometimes they boot with garbage
>> characters on the screen instead of the normal OS boot, sometimes they
>> hang at various parts of the boot sequence, spontaneous reboots when
>> kickstarting.
>>
>> Say the Antec web site says I need more like a 350w power supply, and I
>> read somewhere that PSUs tend to age and get less efficient over time,
>> so I am guessing that I've been starving these things for juice for
>> weeks or maybe months.
>>
>> Hypothetically, could I have actually damaged these systems if the PSU
>> was under-powered?  Or would a new, higher powered PSU fix the problems
>> I've seen?
>>
>> I would guess that too much juice might hurt the systems, but would too
>> little actually damage anything?
>>
>> I know it's not thermal, they're in a very cold room with dedicated HVAC
>> and the airflow is great.
>>
>> Hoping someone who knows more about electronics can chime in.
>
> Thomas,
>
> Your suspicions about cheap-o PSUs may be well-founded. A power supply's
> Achilles heel is often the electrolytic capacitors used to absorb and
> filter out high frequency components on its main power output lines.
> There are a lot of square-wave-to-sine-wave conversion operations that
> take place in modern power supplies.
>
> When electrolytic capacitors (the big ones that look like beer cans) age
> the paste-like electrolyte inside begins to dry out. The heat inside a
> PSU accelerates this aging process. The telltale sign is AC ripple on
> the +5V and +12V outputs. You can see this on an oscilloscope and
> measure it with an inexpensive voltmeter set to read AC volts.
>
> When 120VAC at 60Hz leaks onto DC power rails, the instantaneous voltage
> (the sum of AC and DC voltages) applied to delicate logic may be many
> times higher than the nominal low DC voltage that should be there. This
> can easily confuse circuitry trying to measure the electrical charge
> stored in a memory cell that represents a 0 or 1 bit.
>
> I've seen this cause spontaneous reboots, system freezes, and all sorts
> of seemingly random behavior. It's quite common in home PCs whose PSUs
> have been inhaling dust and pet fur for 4-5 years. It's less common in
> data centers, but equipment close to the floor can still accumulate a
> lot of dirt. Lower temps in a data center may slow heat-related
> deterioration, but cheap PSUs will still age faster than well designed
> units with quality parts.
>
> BTW, this problem is not confined to PSUs. You've probably read about
> motherboards with bad capacitors. A few years ago there was a major
> scandal involving defective capacitors sold to many top tier motherboard
> manufacturers. Tens of thousands of motherboards made with those bad
> parts are causing headaches for sysadmins today.
>
> If you have any doubts about a particular machine, go ahead and replace
> its power suppply with a known good one. If you can afford it and can
> find one that fits, you might try replacing a cheap-o PSU with one from
> a vendor like PC Power&  Cooling.
>
> Good luck.
>
> --Doc Savage
>Fairview Heights, IL
>

Thanks Doc.  We've already replaced all of them with Ensoniq units.  I 
was really more worried about whether I had damaged the boards.
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Re: Somewhat OT - can underpowered power supplies damage a system?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/18/2010 02:36 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 August 2010 10:27 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> Say, hypothetically, I have 8 identical Intel DG45ID motherboard-based
>> system with 8GB memory and a single drive with a cheap-o generic 300w
>> power supply.
>
> That is seriously overloaded I would say! Every motherboard should draw
> about 40~60W depending on the CPU and RAM you have on each of them! In
> the past I have damaged hard drives by stressing the PSU. (I had too
> many drives on one cable)
>
> To keep stress on the PSU low, hardware review sites like Anandtech
> recommend running at the 60~80% mark of a PSU's power rating. That is
> the most efficient region for most PSU makes.
>
> I would recommend you to look at the ampere and voltage ratings for all
> the components you have, and calculate the needed power for the components.
>
> Power needed (W) = Ampere rating (A) x voltage rating (V)
>
> Also it is very important to not overload any of the particular rails.
> e.g. If one of the 12V rails for your PSU is rated at 120W then take
> care to put components such that the ampere ratings of all of them add
> up to 10A. (120W/12V = 10A)
>
> Hope this helps.
>

I've replaced all the PSUs with 500 watt units.  I was really more 
worried about whether I did any permanent damage to any of the system 
components.

TC
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Re: Somewhat OT - can underpowered power supplies damage a system?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/18/2010 08:04 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 08:52:41 am Thomas Cameron did opine:
>
>> Say, hypothetically, I have 8 identical Intel DG45ID motherboard-based
>> system with 8GB memory and a single drive with a cheap-o generic 300w
>> power supply.  All running Linux, so sorta on-topic.
>>
>> Say those systems have been running for over a year, but lately they've
>> been really flaky.  Random lockups, sometimes they boot with garbage
>> characters on the screen instead of the normal OS boot, sometimes they
>> hang at various parts of the boot sequence, spontaneous reboots when
>> kickstarting.
>>
>> Say the Antec web site says I need more like a 350w power supply, and I
>> read somewhere that PSUs tend to age and get less efficient over time,
>> so I am guessing that I've been starving these things for juice for
>> weeks or maybe months.
>>
>> Hypothetically, could I have actually damaged these systems if the PSU
>> was under-powered?  Or would a new, higher powered PSU fix the problems
>> I've seen?
>>
>> I would guess that too much juice might hurt the systems, but would too
>> little actually damage anything?
>>
>> I know it's not thermal, they're in a very cold room with dedicated HVAC
>> and the airflow is great.
>
> But is it clean?  The cpu fan could be full of dust bunnies by now.
>
>> Hoping someone who knows more about electronics can chime in.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Thomas
>
> As a C.E.T. with 60 years of chasing electrons for a living, I would tend
> to agree with your thoughts, with one exception.  Antec.  I have had, over
> the last decade, much better luck with the PSU's I can get for $20-$40 from
> the importers than I ever had with Antec.  Every Antec I ever bought was in
> the recycle bin by the time the so-called warranty was used up, or within a
> couple of months later from low voltage output.  I have 4 HD's totalling
> 3.5TB in this system, and the 350 watt hi-pro brand psu in it is at least 2
> years old&  still running great, and its voltages have not faded a bit in
> that 2+ years.

Thanks, Gene, much appreciated.  I've upgraded to 500w PSUs.  Do you 
think I did any damage to the system components?
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Re: faster /dev/random

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/21/2010 10:46 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>
> Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool
> for /dev/random fills up?  I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa
> keys is taking up to 3 hours.  I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64
> machines seem to have random number hardware built in (perhaps also
> AMD???)  Is there a way to funnel this into the entropy pool?

/dev/urandom is a lot faster.
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Re: faster /dev/random

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/21/2010 10:46 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>
> Is there an approved way to increase the speed at which the random pool
> for /dev/random fills up?  I'm playig with dnssec and getnerating 2k rsa
> keys is taking up to 3 hours.  I've been googling a bit and Intel x86_64
> machines seem to have random number hardware built in (perhaps also
> AMD???)  Is there a way to funnel this into the entropy pool?
>
> -wolfgang

Sorry I was way too quick on the previous.

I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating a 
lot of interrupts.  I usually do something like run 
/etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity.

And, as I said earlier, depending on how random you want your numbers to 
be, you might consider using /dev/urandom, which is a pseudo-random 
number generator and is a lot faster than /dev/random.
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Re: faster /dev/random

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/22/2010 02:47 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>
> Thomas Cameron  writes:
>> I've always heard that you can get faster random numbers by generating a
>> lot of interrupts.  I usually do something like run
>> /etc/cron.daily/mlocate to generate a lot of disk activity.
>
> I noticed that things speed up quite a bit if I move the mouse in
> circles for 10 minutes.  The Linux kernel sure makes me work for my
> random numbers. ;-)
>
>> And, as I said earlier, depending on how random you want your numbers to
>> be, you might consider using /dev/urandom, which is a pseudo-random
>> number generator and is a lot faster than /dev/random.
>
> I'm a bit wary of urandom since it will cut down on the search space for
> my key.  If I need to wait a few days for my 28 keys to be crunched, I'd
> rather just wait.

It's a trade-off, I guess.  I don't do anything that is so security 
sensitive that I have to have that random a number.  For me, if I need 
random I can use the pseudo-random device and I know that it's "good 
enough."

What are you doing that is worth waiting a month for?  Or would you have 
to kill us if you told us?  ;-)
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Re: Default user groups

[Thomas Cameron]

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On 02/05/2011 04:50 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
> Does anyone know where Fedora sets the default user groups for new users?
> 
> Say I want to create a new user and have them automatically added to a
> few more groups, how can one do that?
> 
> Thanks!
> -c
> 


http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-users-groups-private-groups.html
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Re: Why does http://localhost:8080 displays a Blank Page?

[Thomas Cameron]

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On 04/19/2011 10:30 PM, Varuna Seneviratna wrote:
> Yum info Display the below Information
> [QUOTE]Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
> Adding en_GB to language list
> Installed Packages
> Name: tomcat6
> Arch: noarch
> Version : 6.0.26
> Release : 16.fc14
> Size: 206 k
> Repo: installed
>>From repo   : updates
> Summary : Apache Servlet/JSP Engine, RI for Servlet 2.5/JSP 2.1 API
> URL : [url]http://tomcat.apache.org/[/url]
> License : ASL 2.0
> Description : Tomcat is the servlet container that is used in the official
> : Reference Implementation for the Java Servlet and JavaServer 
> Pages
> : technologies. The Java Servlet and JavaServer Pages 
> specifications
> : are developed by Sun under the Java Community Process.
> :
> : Tomcat is developed in an open and participatory environment and
> : released under the Apache Software License version 2.0. Tomcat 
> is
> : intended to be a collaboration of the best-of-breed developers
> : from around the world.
> [/QUOTE]
> 
> But When I type [url]http://localhost:8080[/url] a blank white page is
> presented.The services Utility indicates that tomcat6 is enabled and
> running.
> I installed Tomcat using "yum install tomcat6".I have Fedora 14
> Where Can I find more information about the where abouts of  Tomcat.I
> couldn't find a even a  FAQ

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/index.html
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Re: pings with noise

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On 05/10/2011 10:58 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> According to the man page whenever you use the -a option on the ping
> command as in:
> ping -a ip-address
> each ping return should cause a noise to be generated.
> 
> I can't seem to get that too happen. What could be wrong?

As root, "modprobe pcspkr"

Then it works as expected.
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Re: Best FOSS alternative for skype?

[Thomas Cameron]

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On 05/10/2011 05:32 PM, Konstantinos Karantias wrote:
> Am I the only believing that they will just make the development for
> Linux slower and will not cease it at all? I don't think they are that
> bad.

I think they are exactly that bad. Do you not remember Ballmer making
claims about Linux being a cancer? The BS claims about Linux infringing
on 235 patents? The attempt after attempt after attempt to crush Free
software?

> If they did such a thing, Skype would lose its Linux users. And, AFAIK
> they're some.

They've already lost this one. I will NOT do business with Microsoft.

> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:18 AM, JD  wrote:
>> On 05/10/11 14:54, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I just lost enthusiasm in further use of skype. Being closed source was
>> bad enough already, but I tolerated it due to its good-enough quality,
>> reliability and free-of-charge use for skype-to-skype calls. But now that
>> Microsoft is taking it over, I suddenly lost faith that these good features
>> will still be there from now on (not to mention Linux support).
>>
>> Thus the question: is there a FOSS VoIP app that provides roughly the same
>> quality, reliability and free-as-in-beer service?
>>
>> I do know that there are such VoIP apps, but I am not familiar with the
>> quality of service, availability and accessibility of each of those. I am
>> willing to migrate and start persuading my existing skype contacts (which
>> are
>> scattered all over the globe) to migrate to a FOSS solution as well. But I
>> cannot do that if this alternative does not provide functionality that at
>> least matches that of skype. It has to be up to the task.
>>
>> So which one is on the top of the list, in your opinion?
>>
>> TIA, :-)
>> Marko
>>
>> I am sorry to hear the MS is taking over skype.
>> I am afraid that MS will soon alter the proprietary
>> protocol so that existing Linux and other non MS
>> ports will cease to function.
>>
>> I have tried to run VoipBuster windows app on wine.
>> It always fails for connect to the main server.
>>
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Happy Halloween, Fedora Project!

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Re: nouveau and 3d performance in f14?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 11/21/2010 03:28 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> Before I start tinkering with 3d graphics (like desktop effects) in my
> f14 main machine (with a nVidia Corporation G96 [Quadro FX 380]
> graphics card in it), I wondered if anyone here has played with 3d
> graphics (installing the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package first)
> and running with our open source nouveau driver rather than the
> proprietary driver.
>
> If anyone can report what performance has been like with
> nouveau/mesa-dri-drivers-experimental on a machine with my card I
> would be grateful - any reports with other nvidia hardware running the
> open source drivers would be appreciated too. I know that a lot of
> people participated in the graphics test prior to f14 release but I
> wondered what experience showed now that quite a few people have been
> running f14 for a few weeks and testing more extensively in day to day
> use.
>
> Thanks
>

I've used the F/OSS drivers and they work just fine for simple stuff 
like wobbly windows and spinning desktops.
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Re: Sealert does not pop up as a desktop window

[Thomas Cameron]

On 11/23/2010 07:07 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have having the following problem with sealert:
>
> # sealert
> could not attach to desktop process
> #
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Paul

sealert -b maybe?
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Re: Window Management under Compiz

[Thomas Cameron]

On 12/28/2010 03:45 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> How do you get the window to be chosen when you move the cursor to it
> under compiz?

First, "yum install control-center-extra"

Then click System/Preferences/Windows.  Choose "Select windows when the 
mouse moves over them."

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Re: recursively count the words occurrence in the text files

[Thomas Cameron]

On 12/30/2010 12:34 PM, S Mathias wrote:
> I just can't google for it:
>
> I'm searching for a "bash" "one liner" (awk, perl, or anything) for this:
>
> there are text files, in several directories:
>
> mkdir one
> mkdir two
> mkdir three
>
> echo "word1 word2 word3">  one/asf.txt
> echo "word2 word4, word5">  one/asfcxv saf.txt
> echo "word1. word2">  one/dsgsdg.txt
>
> echo "word6, word3!">  two/sdgsd dsf.txt
> echo "word6">  two/ergd.txt
>
> echo "asdf, word2">  three/werdf.txt
> echo "word7, word8 word9 word10">  three/qwerb erfsdgdsg.txt
> echo "word4 word3">  three/web erg as.txt
>
> so it does the magic* "recursively":
>
> $ SOMEMAGIC>  output.txt
> cat output.txt
> asdf 1
> word1 2
> word2 4
> word3 3
> word4 2
> word5 1
> word6 2
> word7 1
> word8 1
> word9 1
> word10 1
> $
>
>
>
> *recursively count the words occurrence in the text files like: "word1 2"
> can anyone point to a howto/link? [re: i just can't google for it :\]
>
>
>

Does your prof know you're asking the Fedora community to do your 
homework?  ;-)
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Re: a perl question

[Thomas Cameron]

On 01/04/2011 04:27 AM, S Mathias wrote:
> cat asdf.txt
> bla-bla
> bla-bla
> bla[XYZ]
> importantthing
> another important thing
> [/XYZ]
> bla-bla
> bla-bla
> [XYZ]
> yet another thing
> hello!
> [/XYZ]
> bla-bla
> etc.
> $ SOMEPERLMAGIC asdf.txt>  output.txt
> $ cat output.txt
> importantthing
> another important thing
> yet another thing
> hello!
>
>
> how can i sovle this question? what is SOMEPERLMAGIC? are there any perl 
> gurus, that have a little spare time?

Seriously, Mathias.  These look like questions straight out of entry 
level university classes.  Are you asking mailing lists to do your 
homework for you?

Not cool at all.

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SOLVED Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14

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On 01/06/2011 02:54 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:19:44 -0600, Aaron wrote:
> 
>>
>>>
 There is not a control-center-extra rpm installable in F14.
>>>
>>> Correct. That's what the RPM "Obsoletes" tag shows as I've demonstrated.
>>> In F14, package control-center obsoletes package control-center-extra.
>>> In other words, it replaces the control-center-extra package.
>>> The RPM semantics are clear. One package replaces another if it provides
>>> exactly the same stuff or similar stuff that is supposed to replace the
>>> previous functionality.
>>>
>> Which iis consistant to the suubjwect headewr:
>>
>> computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
> 
> The package is called control-center not computer-center. You get that
> wrong all the time - also in the subject line.
> 
> Further, it does not matter that the -extras subpackage is no longer
> available, since it has been merged back into its base package. It's just
> F12 and F13 where it has been split off as a subpackage -- built from the
> same control-center src.rpm. It has not been a separate package with
> a separate src.rpm, just a subpackage.
> 
>>> So, what are _you_ trying to point out?
>> Well I mentioned it above but you missed it. computer-enter rpm does not
>> correctly implement all the functionality of: computer-control-extra.
> 
> I didn't miss it. I'm fully aware of it. It just doesn't fit into a
> thread with this subject line. Once more: The control-center-extra
> package in F12 and F13 was built from the control-center src.rpm, then
> killed temporarily during F14 development, and revived later for F14.
> 
> That the current gnome-window-properties tool gives an error dialog
> when running compiz may be unrelated and due to a bug.
> 
>> It will not allow you to foucus windows with mouse movements when you
>> use compiz under gnome. Evidently that works in KDE. I have been asking
>> about that problem for more than a week now. 
> 
> You create a separate mail thread for "computer-center-extra is no longer
> with us in F14" without pointing out why that would be relevant.
> 
>> There is no gconftool
>> installable on my F14 installation. YMMV
> 
> Sure it is:
> 
> $ rpm -qf $(which gconftool-2)
> GConf2-2.31.91-1.fc14.i686

OK, this is "solved" inasmuch as I now have "focus follows mouse."

I installed NVidia drivers because I needed them.  Dunno if you will.

yum install compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-extras \
 compiz-fusion-extras-gnome compiz-fusion-gnome \
 compiz-fusion-unsupported compiz-fusion-unsupported-gnome \
 compizconfig-backend-gconf ccsm

System/Preferences/Startup Applications
 - add compiz-manager

Logout, log back in or do alt+f2 to run compiz-manager

System/Preferences/CompizConfig Settings Manager
 - General Options
 - Focus and Raise Behavior tab
 - Uncheck click to focus and raise on click

Done!  Focus now follows mouse!

Hope this is helpful.

Thomas
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Re: SOLVED Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14

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On 01/07/2011 10:47 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> System/Preferences/CompizConfig Settings Manager
>  - General Options
>  - Focus and Raise Behavior tab
>  - Uncheck click to focus and raise on click

Argh!  Sorry, meant "uncheck click to focus and auto-raise," and to be
clear, those are just personal preferences.  My point was that you can
change the "focus follows mouse" focus here.

Sorry for the typo.

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Installing Skype on 64-bit Fedora 14

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I installed the skype RPM on my 64-bit Fedora 14 machine and ran into
all kinds of problems with missing libs like:

skype: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

The short answer for my system is:

yum install glibc.i686 alsa-lib.i686 libXv.i686 libXScrnSaver.i686
qt.i686 qt-x11.i686

yum install --nogpgcheck skype-2.1.0.81-fc10.i586.rpm

Done!

Hoping this is helpful...

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Re: crontab

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On 01/09/2011 04:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> To have the same shell running twice a week, I am using crond and
> anacron if I understand correctly. I have a file in /etc/cron.weekly
> (file.cron)
> and I also schedule the same file from crontad -e.
> However, it appears that I have the same file command
> (/etc/cron.weekly/file.cron) started at 2 slightly different times
>  started at Sun Dec 26 03:04:01 GMT 2010
> and at:
> started at Sun Dec 26 03:00:01 GMT 2010
> 
> according to my log files. This is a real problem.
> 
> How, can I run a cron file twice a week ?
> 
> Thank.
> 

crontab -e creates a cron job for a user (including root).

/etc/cron.* are directories into which you drop shell scripts which run
hourly, weekly, daily, etc.  These directories are actually read for
scripts by anacron, not cron.

So if you want something to run twice a week, you can either modify
/etc/anacrontab to run some twice weekly job or create a crontab for a
user in which a job runs twice a week.

I would not use both the /etc/cron.* directories and a private crontab.
 Too confusing.

Thomas
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Triple head?

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Has anyone gotten three heads set up with Fedora?  I figure it will
require the proprietary driver, and while that is not optimal, I'm
willing to do it.  I really want to have three monitors set up.

If so, how'd you do it?
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Re: Triple head?

[Thomas Cameron]

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On 01/17/2011 03:49 PM, ? wrote:
> --- Thomas Cameron  wrote:
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>> Has anyone gotten three heads set up with Fedora?  I
>> figure it will
>> require the proprietary driver, and while that is
>> not optimal, I'm
>> willing to do it.  I really want to have three
>> monitors set up.
>>
>> If so, how'd you do it?
> 
> One architectural office I'm working with that is *very*
> Linux curious wanted to try Fedora on a four-headed
> system.
> 
> The system has:
> - 1 VGA on-board graphics card (not sure the chipset,
> assuming its a standard Intel on-board device) connected
> to a ~20" Dell LCD monitor
> - 2 nVidia 1Gb Galaxy PCI-E 16 cards (pretty cheap)
> connected through their DVI outputs to two large, matching
> LG Flatrons
> - 1 *something else* pretty old, weak card also connected
> through a DVI out to a generic, small flatscreen leftover
> from someplace
> 
> I installed Fedora 14 with just the VGA on-board video
> running first, then plugged the others in after install...
> and everything just worked on reboot. The only adjustment
> needed was to place the screens in relation to one another
> so that the layout made sense.
> 
> They have heavy 2D requirements (CAD for blueprint
> designs), but not any real 3D needs, so the open source
> drivers worked just fine for them. Their fabrication techs
> *do* need 3D, though, so it would be necessary to get
> good, real 3D drivers for those systems.
> 
> This is easy. "oooh, dual head" is not very "h
> anymore." It's just about plugging things in as long as
> the hardware is fairly vanilla.
> 
> One note: You will not get much easy mileage out of
> USB-to-VGA output switches. Those still suck to configure,
> even for a single screen.
> 
> 
> --
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Many thanks, I'll give it a try then!
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Re: Triple head?

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On 01/17/2011 04:19 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
> 2011/1/17 ? :
>> --- Thomas Cameron  wrote:
>>
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>>> Has anyone gotten three heads set up with Fedora?  I
>>> figure it will
>>> require the proprietary driver, and while that is
>>> not optimal, I'm
>>> willing to do it.  I really want to have three
>>> monitors set up.
>>>
>>> If so, how'd you do it?
>>
>> I installed Fedora 14 with just the VGA on-board video
>> running first, then plugged the others in after install...
>> and everything just worked on reboot. The only adjustment
>> needed was to place the screens in relation to one another
>> so that the layout made sense.
> 
> I have a pair of NVidia cards (one PCIe, one PCI) which I do this
> with. The key components were:
> 
> * Proprietary NVidia driver with TwinView enabled
> * Specifying the PCI ID manually in my xorg.conf
> 
> What I lack is the ability to merge together the Dual-screen config on
> one card with the single screen on the other - so in actual fact I
> have 2 Xorg "Displays" and am unable to move windows from one to the
> other. That's not a big deal - you just end up adapting your workflow
> and keeping discrete apps on that one screen. If I enable Xinerama,
> Gnome crashes pretty hard on login.
> 
> I have included my Xorg.conf below to give you some starting point. If
> you get Xinerama working, I'll be very interested.
> 
> --
> Sam
> 
> 
> 
> # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
> # nvidia-settings:  version 260.19.29
> (mockbu...@hephaestus.wilsonet.com)  Thu Dec 16 04:52:07 EST 2010
> 
> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 260.19.29  (mockbuild@)  Thu Dec 16 05:03:59 EST 
> 2010
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "Layout0"
> Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
> InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> Option "Xinerama" "0"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 
> # generated from default
> Identifier "Mouse0"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "auto"
> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 
> # generated from data in "/etc/sysconfig/keyboard"
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "kbd"
> Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
> Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Monitor0"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> ModelName  "LG L1953S"
> HorizSync   30.0 - 83.0
> VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
> Option "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Monitor1"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> ModelName  "LG L1919S"
> HorizSync   30.0 - 83.0
> VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Device0"
> Driver "nvidia"
> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
> BoardName  "Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI"
> BusID  "PCI:3:2:0"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Device1"
> Driver "nvidia"
> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
> BoardName  "Quadro NVS 285"
> BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Device0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> DefaultDepth24
> Option "TwinView" "1"
> Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
> Option "metamodes" "CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0,
> CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   24
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen1"
> Device "Device1"
> Monitor"Monitor1"
> DefaultDepth24
> Option "TwinView" "0"
> Option "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   24
> EndSubSection
> EndSection

Thanks, Sam!
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Re: SeLinux, should I disable it?

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On 01/22/2011 09:03 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After I install F14 (KDE), how should I disable SeLinux? Because more
> of the time it gives alerts and it is highly technical in nature to
> understand the SeLinux (for a normal person, not from computers).

See the SELinux for Mere Mortals presentation Dan Walsh and I did at
https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/videos/ - the slide deck is also at
http://people.redhat.com/tcameron

TC
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Re: Need advice

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/15/2014 10:40 PM, Digimer wrote:
> 
> Please don't do that. Fedora is awesome, but it's a desktop OS, not a
> server OS. The life cycle is way to short and it's not hardened like a
> server-focused distro. RHEL/CentOS would make a much better OS, and if
> you needed something newer than it offers, check the EPEL repo.

Bull. It absolutely is QA'd and it absolutely is hardened. It is
protected by essentially the same or even newer security technologies as
Red Hat Enterprise Linux - SELinux, SSL, disk encryption, iptables, etc.

The life cycle is short, sure, but that is not necessarily a bad thing.
In fact, with everything moving more towards ephemeral (cloud)
computing, Fedora may actually have an *advantage* over RHEL for some
workloads. There is no distro which is perfect for all workloads, but
that does not mean that any distro automatically sucks for one workload.
The answer, as always, is "it depends."

Now, I will freely admit I'm biased towards RHEL, since it's what I do
for a living. I would absolutely recommend RHEL for production
workloads, but strictly because of the support SLAs and longevity - not
quality of code. But this claptrap about Fedora not being good on a
server is pure rubbish. Stop denigrating the distro, as it is clear that
you know not of what you speak.

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Re: Need advice

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/18/2014 12:59 AM, Robin Laing wrote:
> As you have read, it would be better to use CentOS over Fedora.

s/CentOS/RHEL/

Let's suggest supporting the company which pays for this list and the
vast majority of the developers who write Fedora, what say?

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Re: Fedora *is* for servers! [was Re: Need advice]

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/18/2014 11:33 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 04/18/2014 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius issued this missive:
>> On 04/18/2014 02:10 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:40:00PM -0400, Digimer wrote:
> We are developing internal software using MySql dB and are planning to
> use Fedora for the server.
 Please don't do that. Fedora is awesome, but it's a desktop OS, not
 a server OS. The life cycle is way to short and it's not hardened
>>>
>>> This is not true. Please stop repeating it. Fedora is not a
>>> desktop-only OS,
>>> and can be (and *is*) used in many serious server contexts, even in
>>> production. You need to know what you're getting into and be willing
>>> to cope
>>> with the 13-month lifecycle and community support model, but it's a
>>> perfectly awesome fit for many uses, including possibly this one.
>>
>> May I repeat one of my Fedora mantras, I have been reiterating since
>> Fedora day #1: Fedora's life-cycle is too short!
> 
> And what we've been saying for years: Fedora is a test bed for newer
> technologies. It has never been touted as a general use system. 

Really? That's weird, because I just went to https://fedoraproject.org/
and the very first page there says "Fedora is a fast, stable, and
powerful operating system for everyday use built by a worldwide
community of friends. It's completely free to use, study, and share."

You and I must have a very different interpretation of "for everyday use."

> It is
> because of these new technologies that it has a short life span.

Short life span != not good for daily use. Or general purpose use. Or
even server use in some circumstances.

>> IMO, extending it would enhance Fedora's usability and suitability in
>> many use-cases and would significantly increase attractivity to users.
> 
> I tend to agree that the 6 month cycle is a pain in the arse, but if
> you want stability you use RHEL or CentOS or another distro. Fedora is,
> by definition, bleeding edge.
> 
> The concept is that once we're all done beating the crap out of Fedora
> AND it becomes stable AND there are enough feature improvements
> accumulated, it gets snapshotted, tuned, tweaked and becomes the next
> major RHEL version (and, by diffusion, the next major CentOS version).
> 
> If you use Fedora, get used to the fact that you have joined the rest of
> us experimental lab rats testing this technology. You will get
> bloodied, angered, frustrated, and confused using Fedora. That's the
> nature of the beast. We are, essentially, beta testers.

That is neither the charter of the project, nor my personal experience.
I use Fedora for my daily driver at home, I use it for dev work at work,
my 7 & 11 year old daughters use it for daily driving on their laptops
(https://fedoraproject.org/en/using/life/thomascameron.html), and with
*very* limited exceptions, it Just Works(TM). With a modicum of
planning, upgrading from one distro to the next is super easy, so the
"it only lasts 6 months" thing is kind of a non-issue.

Quit referring to Fedora as a beta. It's factually incorrect and it
serves neither the Fedora community nor the greater Open Source and
Linux communities. That FUD makes people avoid even trying Fedora and
that's BS. Quit it.

Thomas
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Looking for a printer

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Howdy, all -

I have an Epson Workforce 600 printer, and it's actually a great
printer except for one thing: it goes through ink cartridges like an
out of control tweaker in a room full of meth.

I need a printer with the following features, and I'd love any
advice/experience you have had:

1) networked, works with Linux (the kids and me) and Windows (wife)
2) color
3) fast print speed (not as high a priority, but nice)
4) prefer laser printer, as opposed laser jet

I had an HP LaserJet 4, and it was awesome, but it was not color and
it finally died. I'm looking for that sort of experience, just newer.

Any suggestions?
Thomas
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Re: Looking for a printer

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Hehehe.

Do you have the M251nw?

On 12/31/2015 01:47 PM, William Henry wrote:
> I have a HP Laserjet Pro 200 and it meets all your criteria.
> 
> You will change cartridges less often but they are expensive.
> 
> William
> 
> P.S. I had no idea tweakers were that into ink cartridges!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Thomas Cameron
>>  wrote:
>> 
> Howdy, all -
> 
> I have an Epson Workforce 600 printer, and it's actually a great 
> printer except for one thing: it goes through ink cartridges like
> an out of control tweaker in a room full of meth.
> 
> I need a printer with the following features, and I'd love any 
> advice/experience you have had:
> 
> 1) networked, works with Linux (the kids and me) and Windows
> (wife) 2) color 3) fast print speed (not as high a priority, but
> nice) 4) prefer laser printer, as opposed laser jet
> 
> I had an HP LaserJet 4, and it was awesome, but it was not color
> and it finally died. I'm looking for that sort of experience, just
> newer.
> 
> Any suggestions? Thomas
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Re: Looking for a printer

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On 12/31/2015 02:45 PM, Robin Laing wrote:
> When I needed to replace our last inkjet with a laser, purchased HP
> m475dn printer.  Full multifunction with other options.  Higher 
> priced but runs beautifully.  Purchased from HP direct as it was
> at a lower cost than I could get quoted at any local shop, it was
> free shipping at the time. Had it in a week.

It looks like that has been replaced by this:

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/business-solutions/hp-color-laserjet-pro-mfp-m477fnw

Is that about what you have?

> We use these printers at work as well which is one of the reasons I
> purchased it.
> 
> Purchase supplies direct from HP when on sale  Much lower price 
> than local stores, in some cases, almost 50% lower.  We usually 
> replace all color cartridges in a year due to usage and black more 
> often.  HP has a three pack of color cartridges for the price of 
> two when on sale.  Last time was less than the cost of two at the 
> local store.  NO expiry date on the cartridges. They also sell
> dual packs of black at a greatly lower cost.  Usually purchase a 
> replacement pair when we put the last one in.
> 
> Cost of laser cartridges are much lower than ink used to cost.

Yup. Thanks!

> With Fedora, printer works out of the box using DHCP or configured
>  manually.  Scanning requires a HP driver that downloads and 
> installs almost automatically.

So you can scan and print from your Fedora box???

Thomas
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Re: mp3 rhythmbox

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On 01/20/2016 03:01 PM, Karagkiaouris diamantis wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am not able to play mp3 file on Rhythmbox with Fedora 23 XFCE. I
> have installed all drpm from RPM Fusion but for some reason i
> cannot play mp3 with rhythmbox. The do not show up also in Musik
> library under Rhythmbox, even if i enable the automatically import
> from settings.
> 
> Thank you! Diamantis

I built this list of stuff to install from several other sites. It
seems to make pretty much everything work for me on Fedora. I
initially did this for F19, but it's worked for every distro from 19
through 23:

http://www.camerontech.com/f19setup.html

Thomas
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Re: selinux??

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On 01/23/2016 09:52 AM, bruce wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> In testing out creating/setting up remote droplets on digital 
> ocean/fed (centos), I realize that it should be secured as 
> much/tightly as possible. However, I also realize that if I screw 
> something up, I could have an instance that has issues. I'm not a
> sys admin, and not trying to be one.
> 
> So, here's my question. If I'm going to be spinning up/down an 
> instance, could I simply disable selinux? For my scenario, I'll be 
> creating a base instance, with the required apps/processes, and
> then using that base instance for any testing droplets I need to
> create, to test my apps.
> 
> So, if I create an instance, spin it up, fire off my tests on the 
> instance, run everything for a few hours, and then shut it off,
> would that be "reasonably safe/secure"?
> 
> My testing apps are a mix of python/php/perl/shell scripts, there's
> no web stuff as of yet. Although, there will be dns/nfs/mysql 
> functionality.
> 
> Thanks for thoughts..
> 

Sorry I'm late to the thread.

Bruce, I'd love your opinion on the "SELinux for Mere Mortals" talk
from Red Hat Summit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxjenQ31b70

Disclaimer: it's a video of me, and I work for Red Hat.

I've gotten a lot of positive feedback on the video, and I hope that
it will make your decision easier. It's only about an hour, and pretty
much everyone who has watched it has said they'd use SELinux after
watching it. I am clearly biased, but I would not run any
internet-facing system without SELinux turned on. Heck, I don't run
*any* system without it.

I hope this helps!

Thomas
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Re: SELINUX and html

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On 02/04/2016 05:33 PM, Dustin Kempter wrote:
> Hello all, I am having an issue. I have a vm with an html file
> that SELINUX is blocking access to. From a webpage I can not access
> the page unless SELINUX is disabled. I would rather not have it
> disabled, is ther another option? please advise
> 
> thanks in advance!

This video has a whole section of examples on SELinux and web content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxjenQ31b70

Thomas
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Re: Fedora / Redhat Podcasts?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 02/28/2016 11:53 AM, Alex Thomas wrote:
> Does anyone know of any good Fedora / Redhat Podcasts?

http://dgshow.org/


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How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

Howdy, all -

I have purchased a DVD for my kids, and I want to make it available on
their tablet for car trips and the like. Totally legal, not pirating,
blah, blah, blah.

I've always used handbrake to rip an mp4 file for this, but this
particular DVD seems to be copy protected somehow. It's "From Up On
Poppy Hill," from Studio Ghibli.

Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must not be
good, as I've found references to this being copy protected, but am only
finding links to closed source Windows software to make copies.

Thanks,
Thomas
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Re: How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 03/31/2016 10:22 PM, thibaut noah wrote:
> 
> 2016-04-01 5:02 GMT+02:00 Thomas Cameron  <mailto:thomas.came...@camerontech.com>>:
> 
> Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must not be
> 
> 
> If you have the dvd you have the right to do copies for yourself.
> Long story short, don't bother yourself and just download the movie,
> won't be pirating since you own it.
> In my opinion it is a much faster and simpler solution.

My ISP sees that differently. :-(
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Re: How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 03/31/2016 11:23 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
> On 16/03/31 22:02, Thomas Cameron wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must not be
>> good, as I've found references to this being copy protected, but am only
>> finding links to closed source Windows software to make copies.
> 
> http://negativo17.org/handbrake/


Handbrake errors out. Sorry, thought I'd mentioned that is my usual go-to.
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Re: How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 03/31/2016 10:44 PM, Tim wrote:

> As far as Thomas is concerned, I haven't tried this with copyguarded
> DVDs, but if you can play the disc with something like VLC, it can
> stream what it can play to a file.  The stream should be the decoded
> version, not the scrambled data directly from the disc.


It won't play via VLC at all, even with libdvdcss installed.

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Re: How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 03/31/2016 10:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> In the past, before all my DVD players died, I used "dvdrip" (available in 
> the rpmfusion
> repo) to perform this function.
> As long as I have libdvdcss installed I didn't have problems with copy 
> protected media.

dvdcss is installed, and dvdrip gives me:

Job 'Read TOC (lsdvd)' failed with error message:
Error reading table of contents. Please check your DVD device settings
in the Preferences and don't forget to put a DVD in the drive.


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Re: How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/01/2016 09:35 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
> On 16/04/01 09:23, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> On 03/31/2016 11:23 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>>> On 16/03/31 22:02, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must
>>>> not be
>>>> good, as I've found references to this being copy protected, but am
>>>> only
>>>> finding links to closed source Windows software to make copies.
>>>
>>> http://negativo17.org/handbrake/
>>
>>
>> Handbrake errors out. Sorry, thought I'd mentioned that is my usual
>> go-to.
> 
> You need to use MakeMKV from that link and then you use Handbrake for
> converting from I guess mpeg2/MKV to m4v. MakeMKV ripped until now
> everything for me incl. those Disney-DVDs which made problems with
> pretty much anything else.

I did not know about this! Thank you! It seems to be backing up the dvd
now, then I'll use ghb to rip it to mp4. Thank you very much!
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Re: How to rip a DVD?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/01/2016 09:47 AM, Peter Reed wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2016 09:23:19 -0500
> Thomas Cameron  wrote:
> 
>> On 03/31/2016 11:23 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
>>> On 16/03/31 22:02, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must
>>>> not be good, as I've found references to this being copy
>>>> protected, but am only finding links to closed source Windows
>>>> software to make copies.  
>>>
>>> http://negativo17.org/handbrake/  
>>
>>
>> Handbrake errors out. Sorry, thought I'd mentioned that is my usual
>> go-to.
> 
> How about makemkv from the same source above. Then use handbrake to
> convert it to mp4. I often do that when handbrake fails to rip the dvd.

This seems to have worked perfectly. Note that I did check the box that
says "decrypt disk" or something like that.

I now have an mp4 file for my kid's tablet. Thanks, all!

Thomas
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How to turn off the touchpad?

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I used to do it in All Settings/Mouse and Touchpad applet. It doesn't
appear to be there any more.

How do I tell Fedora to not use the touchpad?

TC
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Re: How to turn off the touchpad?

[thomas cameron]

On 07/28/2016 06:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/28/2016 04:15 PM, thomas cameron wrote:
>> I used to do it in All Settings/Mouse and Touchpad applet. It doesn't
>> appear to be there any more.
> 
> What DE are you using?  It's still here in Xfce.

Sorry, my bad. Gnome3.
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Re: How to turn off the touchpad?

[thomas cameron]

On 07/28/2016 06:40 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:
> On 29/07/16 11:15, thomas cameron wrote:
>> I used to do it in All Settings/Mouse and Touchpad applet. It doesn't
>> appear to be there any more.
>>
>> How do I tell Fedora to not use the touchpad?
> 
> I asked a similar question on this list, long ago, and was advised that
> from the command line you can do
> 
> synclient TouchpadOff=1
> 
> and that worked for me.  (Use "=0" to switch it back on again.)
> 
> I created my own panel icon to effect these commands via point and click.
> 
> Note that I am using an antediluvian release of Fedora (and an equally
> old Mint desktop) so what I say above may be, uh, off the beam.

Thanks very much!

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Re: How to turn off the touchpad?

[thomas cameron]

On 07/28/2016 06:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> FWIW, my Acer Laptop reports "Couldn't find synaptics properties.  No 
> synaptics driver
> loaded?" when using "synclient -l".  Yet my touchpad works just fine.  KDE 
> has a setting
> for disabling the touchpad, but it doesn't work. Lucky for me my laptop has a 
> "Fn+F7" key
> combination which turns off the touchpad hardware wise.

Thanks, Ed!

Mine is a Synaptics, and it works great with "synclient TouchpadOff=1"
so I think I'm good!

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Looking for a way to get mp3s off an ipod

[Thomas Cameron]

Howdy All -

I have an old 80GB iPod that has a bunch of music on it that I'd like to 
get off.


I've tried to use gtkpod, but the stock export dumps everything into one 
directory. That's not very useful.


Does anyone know of a way to dump an iPod to my filesystem with the format:

/home/Music/ipod/[artist]/[album]/[track]

Thanks!
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Re: Looking for a way to get mp3s off an ipod

[Thomas Cameron]

On 09/23/2012 10:10 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:

Howdy All -

I have an old 80GB iPod that has a bunch of music on it that I'd like to
get off.

I've tried to use gtkpod, but the stock export dumps everything into one
directory. That's not very useful.

Does anyone know of a way to dump an iPod to my filesystem with the format:

/home/Music/ipod/[artist]/[album]/[track]

Thanks!
Thomas


Sorry for the typo, meant:

/home/tcameron/Music/ipod/[artist]/[album]/[track]

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Re: Looking for a way to get mp3s off an ipod

[Thomas Cameron]

On 09/24/2012 03:53 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 24/09/12 04:12, Thomas Cameron wrote:



Sorry for the typo, meant:

/home/tcameron/Music/ipod/[artist]/[album]/[track]

TC


http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Getting_started#Extracting_tag_information_from_the_filename




Weird. I tried to use a / separator and it ignored me, dumping 
everything into one directory. I looked over the above URL and realized 
I had to remove the %o macro first. Then it worked as expected.


Sorry for the noise.

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Re: Please add libreCAD to the Fedora repositories.

[Thomas Cameron]

On 11/06/2012 10:25 PM, Steve wrote:
> I request that libreCAD be added to the Fedora repositories.
> http://librecad.org/cms/home.html
> 
> libreCAD is the take over of what used to be QCAD.QCAD has been
> forked into a closed source application and work on the open source
> application appears to have ceased.
> 
> The libreCAD team has been doing an admiral job of enhancing the
> application.   I ran the most recent versions of 1.x on and off for the
> last couple months and recently upgraded to version 2.0.0 "alpha", which
> runs surprisingly well for something called "alpha". By comparison, I
> lost a significant amount of work running the last released open source
> version of QCAD.

I was really stoked to hear about this, but then I tried to compile it
on F17 and had no luck.

It bombs saying:

Cannot open
/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/support/doc/imgs/LibreCADicon.png.
scripts/postprocess-unix.sh: line 28: lrelease: command not found
cp: cannot stat `*.qm': No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [../../unix/librecad] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/src'
make[1]: *** [sub-src-make_default] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad'
make: *** [sub-librecad-make_default-ordered] Error 2

Too bad, I was really hoping for a good CAD program for Linux.
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Re: Please add libreCAD to the Fedora repositories.

[Thomas Cameron]

On 11/11/2012 02:05 PM, Craig Goodyear wrote:
> On 11/11/2012 01:40 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> On 11/06/2012 10:25 PM, Steve wrote:
>>> libreCAD is the take over of what used to be QCAD.QCAD has been
>>> forked into a closed source application and work on the open source
>>> application appears to have ceased.
>>>
>>> The libreCAD team has been doing an admiral job of enhancing the
>>> application.   I ran the most recent versions of 1.x on and off for the
>>> last couple months and recently upgraded to version 2.0.0 "alpha", which
>>> runs surprisingly well for something called "alpha". By comparison, I
>>> lost a significant amount of work running the last released open source
>>> version of QCAD.
>>
>> I was really stoked to hear about this, but then I tried to compile it
>> on F17 and had no luck.
>>
>> It bombs saying:
>>
>> Cannot open
>> /home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/support/doc/imgs/LibreCADicon.png.
>>
>> scripts/postprocess-unix.sh: line 28: lrelease: command not found
>> cp: cannot stat `*.qm': No such file or directory
>> make[2]: *** [../../unix/librecad] Error 1
>> make[2]: Leaving directory
>> `/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/src'
>> make[1]: *** [sub-src-make_default] Error 2
>> make[1]: Leaving directory
>> `/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad'
>> make: *** [sub-librecad-make_default-ordered] Error 2
>>
>> Too bad, I was really hoping for a good CAD program for Linux.
>>
> 
> I was able to compile the source tar file on Fedora 17 x86_64.  I had to
> install qt-devel, muParser and muParser-devel.  Then run "qmake-qt4
> librecad.pro" and "make"
> 
> 

I installed the muparser RPMs as well, but still got warnings about it.


I wound up trying again today and I had to:

ln -s
/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/support/doc/img
/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/support/doc/imgs

and then

cp
/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/support/doc/img/librecadlogo.png
/home/tcameron/Downloads/LibreCAD/LibreCAD-master/librecad/support/doc/imgs/LibreCADicon.png

Then it compiled.

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Can't change resolution in VNC on F17

[Thomas Cameron]

Howdy -

Following the instructions at
http://zeusville.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/setting-up-vncserver-on-fedora-16/,
I changed my /usr/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service file so it looks
like:

[Unit]
Description=Remote desktop service (VNC)
After=syslog.target network.target

[Service]
Type=forking
ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :'
ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l tcameron -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry
1024x768"
ExecStop=/sbin/runuser -l tcameron -c "/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i"

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

But no matter what I do, the resolution seems to be stuck at the native
resolution of the laptop I'm connecting to, 1600x900.

How the heck do I change the resolution to something else?

TC
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Re: Can't change resolution in VNC on F17

[Thomas Cameron]

On 11/12/2012 05:17 AM, lee wrote:
> Thomas Cameron  writes:
> 
>> Howdy -
>>
>> Following the instructions at
>> http://zeusville.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/setting-up-vncserver-on-fedora-16/,
>> I changed my /usr/lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service file so it looks
>> like:
>>
>> [Unit]
>> Description=Remote desktop service (VNC)
>> After=syslog.target network.target
>>
>> [Service]
>> Type=forking
>> ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i > /dev/null 2>&1 || :'
>> ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l tcameron -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry
>> 1024x768"
>> ExecStop=/sbin/runuser -l tcameron -c "/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i"
>>
>> [Install]
>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>
>> But no matter what I do, the resolution seems to be stuck at the native
>> resolution of the laptop I'm connecting to, 1600x900.
>>
>> How the heck do I change the resolution to something else?
> 
> You probably need to change the resolution on the host you are
> connecting to, not on the client.

That's exactly what I said: "But no matter what I do, the resolution
seems to be stuck at the native resolution of the laptop I'm connecting
to, 1600x900." Note that I said the laptop I'm connecting *to* - not the
one I'm connecting from.

> You don't need a vnc server on the client. Just install tigervnc and run
> 'vncviewer' on the client to connect to the server on the laptop.

Yeah, I get that. As I said, the configuration file I modified above is
the one on the system to which I am connecting - the vnc server, if you
will.
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[F18] How do I set "browse" as the default open type in nautilus?

[Thomas Cameron]

Looks like Gnome is doing the same thing that Microsoft did after XP. I 
can no longer set nautilus so that when I double click on a directory, 
it opens up with the filesystem tree in the left pane, and the contents 
of my directory in the right pane in *list* view. I used to be able to 
set a checkbox for 'always open in browse mode" or something similar, 
but I can't find that in F18 beta.


Is that option still around? Where is it hiding?

Thomas
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Re: [F18] How do I set "browse" as the default open type in nautilus?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 11/28/2012 03:05 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:08:12 -0600
> Thomas Cameron  wrote:
>  
>>> Looks like Gnome is doing the same thing that Microsoft did after XP. I 
>>> can no longer set nautilus so that when I double click on a directory, 
>>> it opens up with the filesystem tree in the left pane, and the contents 
>>> of my directory in the right pane in *list* view. I used to be able to 
>>> set a checkbox for 'always open in browse mode" or something similar, 
>>> but I can't find that in F18 beta.
>>>
>>> Is that option still around? Where is it hiding
> 
> Have you really looked closely at the options in 'Preferences'
> and/or the local config.
> The only substantial change in nautilus (Fed18) with respect to
> nautilus (fed 17) is the missing 'Extra pane' option. 
> 
> If you choose 'list view' you get the folders in the left pane
> and the content in list view in the right pane, etc.
> If you want a more detailed 'tree' you can always open a second
> nautilus window instead of the 'extra pane'. 
> 
> I can't remember ever having seen something like 'always open in browse
> mode'. Do you mean 'thumbnail view' and/or 'text in icons'. Both are
> still available and you can change the size.
> 
> Alexander
> 

I'm looking for what I used to have in the screenshots at
http://www.camerontech.com/nautilus/

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Setting desktop images in F18

[Thomas Cameron]

Howdy -

I have a triple-headed system using an AMD (ATI) FirePro v4900.
Everything works great, the desktop spreads across all the monitors just
fine.

I can only seem to set the desktop image to be repeated once on each of
the three monitors. Is there a way to take an image designed as a
triple-head image to actually stretch across all three monitors?

Thomas
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Re: Building a 1pb volume

[Thomas Cameron]

On 01/09/2013 10:26 AM, arag...@dcsnow.com wrote:
>> Never hurts to look at it.
>> I understood that quite some steps were taken (now at 0.53)
>>
>> Some people regards the stuff from Microsoft not even "beta-grade" ;-)
>> Same discussion was for reiserfs and currently for btrfs.
>>
>> By trying out, you can get confidence, and from the description it looks
>> highly scalable.
> 
> You are 100% correct.  I must be honest, it looks sweet!  Has anyone on
> the list used it in production yet?

I personally know of Red Hat customers using GlusterFS (a.k.a Red Hat
Storage) for distributed volumes of up to 7pb in production.

See e.g. http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Pandora-Deploys-Gluster

You should be fine with 1pb.
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Re: "Read Only" file system

[Thomas Cameron]

On 08/23/2013 05:19 PM, Jim wrote:

On 08/23/2013 05:45 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:

On 23.08.2013 23:40, Jim wrote:

On 08/23/2013 05:29 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Mount point is ;
rwx--. 25 mickey mickey 8192 Dec 31  1969
/run/media/mickey/0A73-237A

I ran   mount -o remount,rw /run/media/mickey/0A73-237A and I still get
"Read Only" file system when I try to
"rm yum-update".



What do dmesg/journalctl and fsck say?


Mateusz Marzantowicz

root@BigOne 0A73-237A]# fsck
fsck from util-linux 2.22.2
e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
/dev/sda5 is mounted.
e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.

The Flash drive is  /dev/sdj1


As root, do:

umount /run/media/mickey/0A73-237A
fsck -y /dev/sdj1

See what it says.
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Why do e.g. ssh sessions hang when I try to log out?

[Thomas Cameron]

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I've noticed this a lot recently. I want to run an X app off another
machine, say thunderbird. So I do "ssh -X user@host" to log in and run
thunderbird from the command line. When I get done, I exit thunderbird
and get a command prompt back. Then when I hit ctrl-D or type "exit"
or whatever, the session hangs. When I hit ctrl-C it finally exits.

As a test, I just did this against my local F16 machine, and I tried
to log out after using thunderbird as a different user.

I see that I have these processes running as my user:

tcameron  5615  0.0  0.0  22356   764 ?S14:10   0:00
dbus-launch --autolaunch 812e3e28dfa6439dcc2013e
tcameron  5616  0.1  0.0  29932  1156 ?Ssl  14:10   0:00
/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-ad
tcameron  5619  0.0  0.0 136548  2744 ?S14:10   0:00
/usr/libexec/gconfd-2

So it appears that dbus is not letting me log out. This is merely an
annoyance, so I'm not sure it's really a bug. Even if it is, I'm not
sure it's worth reporting as a bug.

Anyone else notice this?

Thomas
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Re: Triple-head with a 2nd (different) gfx card, possible?

[Thomas Cameron]

On 04/17/2012 08:23 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:


Fernando Cassia  writes:

My current setup includes a PCI-X ATI X1600 board, which its dual
DVI+VGA outputs.
That card has two 19' monitors connected, a DVI one and a VGA-only one,
both LGs.
Now, suppose I don't want to buy another gfx board, but rather connect
an external USB-to-VGA adapters like these:
http://goo.gl/TqchG
Would Fedora recognize the 3rd display (no matter it being much slower
due to the USB 2.0 interface) and put the 3rd screen alongside the
other two so I can move app windows from one monitor to the next?
Or would it be a separate X display because it's handled by a different
driver?


It might well recognize the usb framebuffer (I have no idea if it will
even do that.)  The stumbling block will be to get the current Xorg to
span two framebuffers.  Back in the early days of X11 it did have an
extension called Xinerama ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama ).
That extension appears to have suffered bit-rot and no longer works for
me.  I tried to get two different Radeon frame buffers to work together
but ended up buying a new card that had at least three outputs.  Sadly
those are hard to come by and they charge an arm and a leg.


I've been researching triple-head for quite a while, and the lest evil 
option I've come up with is the AMD FirePro 4900. It natively supports 
triple head from one card, has Linux drivers and config tools available 
from AMD, and is not horrifically expensive.


Have a look at 
http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firepro-3d/Pages/product-comparison.aspx 
for some comparisons of various video cards including how many monitors 
they support.


Hope this helps.
Thomas
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Horde packages for Fedora or RHEL?

[Thomas Cameron]

SquirrelMail has been my go-to for ages, but it hasn't been maintained 
in forever.


I think Horde makes sense as a replacement, specifically the Horde 
Groupware Webmail Edition. But the installation instructions have you 
run pear commands and installing outside the package management system. 
Not really interested in that.


Are there any packages for Horde Groupware Webmail Edition that anyone 
knows of? A cursory Google search doesn't find anything.


Thomas
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Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

[Thomas Cameron]

On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:

Greetings,

My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, 
and an older desktop used for backup/storage.

The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is 
done hourly on the Fedora machines using rsync.

CentOS 7 went EOL in June. To that end, what does the Fedora community 
recommend as a replacement/alternative?

For the backup machine, I'm of mind to upgrade to large capacity SSDs (probably 
should have done so a while ago); but that's tangential.

Thank you for any and all advice.

Max
p...@brama.com


Use Red Hat Enterprise Linux. You can do so for zero cost.

Go to https://developers.redhat.com/ and sign up. Then you can download 
and use RHEL on up to 16 your development/personal use machines. You can 
use RHEL virtualization for as many guests as you want.


It's a fantastic way to learn RHEL, and Red Hat actively encourages 
folks to do so.


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Re: Screen saver no longer working

[Thomas Cameron]

What desktop environment are you using? I've been having problems with xfce for quite a while.On Oct 25, 2024 2:01 AM, Andreas Fournier via users  wrote:After a recent update I noticed that the screen no longer goes dark
after a time of inactivity. I checked the settings and they are as
before. 

Any way to get it back working?
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