Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]
On 02/10/2010 01:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:50 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the >> package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these >> commands: >> >> su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf' >> su -c 'service named start' > > Of course if you've already accepted the update you no longer have a > working network. Better hope there's a cached copy of the previous > version lying around ... > > poc > Or just turn off dnssec perhaps and start named .. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]
On 02/10/2010 04:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Or just turn off dnssec perhaps and start named .. > > $ sudo dnssec-configure --dnssec=off --nocheck > error: unbound configuration not found > > poc > I meant edit your named.conf file and remove it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]
On 02/10/2010 05:29 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > II installed the updates and my network was still working. It presumably only effects those who have local running f12 named as their sole source of DNS resolution (caching or otherwise) and who have dnssec turned on. Some have dnssec turned off for whatever reason they deemed best (me for example :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest google-chrome won't load
On 02/13/2010 01:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > (Note: chrome, not chromium). I just updated this morning and get this: > > > > i.e. lots of "not found"s which weren't there before. This is 32-bit > Chrome on F12 64-bit and had been working up till now. Note that the For what its worth I'm using the 64bit version with no problem at all. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Latest google-chrome won't load
On 02/13/2010 06:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > As I did say, I dl'ed from the official Google repo, which currently > distributes a Beta. However the update (*from the 64-bit repo* was a > 32-bit executable, which is why it failed, i.e. it was misfiled by > whoever maintains these things. > > As I also said, the 64-bit version downloaded directly from Google's > page did work correctly. > Sorry - to be more clear - i yum updated the beta and it stayed a workign 64 bit version. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Sendmail help sought
On 02/15/2010 12:11 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 15:40 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Should I set MASQUERADE_AS and/or MASQUERADE_DOMAIN >> on laptop and/or desktop? It is not necessary tho its not a bad idea. Your sendmail is merely acting as a client to your ISP's sendmail - so as long as your ISP sendmail is happy (on correct net, authorized etc) all is fine. > One problem with such simple masquerading is when you send out a mail > using a local LAN address, it fakes your local domain to be the ISP's > domain, and that constructed address happens to be the same address as > someone else on your ISP. That is -not- correct. The outside world will see the ISP sendmail outbound MX and it will have a unique and reversable IP. The internal IP may show up in a received line and plays zero roll at all. It is not a problem in any way. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Spot's chromium repo temporary removed
On 02/15/2010 06:09 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: the question is: > > is there another binaries for f12 i686 ? or we just switch to google > chrome (not open source) > > > Thanks for advance, > Best regards. > His version didnt work properly - java was not working - dont know why - he never responded best I can tell. You're better off using google-chrome - it works. You will need to use a java with the new API (such as sun java) tho I hear rumors the iced flea version will support it at some point in the future. ie you will need a link in /opt/google/chrome/plugins to libnpjp2.so and flash of course. I am using it and it updated fine with yum - it )the beta) is already a huge improvement over firefox ... gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
screen brightness - full brightness on battery not possible ?
On my laptop - when I switch to battery the screen dims less than when I am plugged in. Sometimes I need to get the brightness up full - but I cannot find a control to do this that has any effect while on battery power. Things I've tried - 1) in power applet, battery tab - unclick the "Reduce Backlight' button 2) Added the screen brightness applet - but it only dims it more it has now setting to make it brighter than it is already 3) laptop hardware brightness - it is set to full as well. So the max brightness with battery is 20% less than max brightness plugged in. I get the battery saving idea - but its my battery and there are times I need the full brightness of my screen ... I'm using nouveau driver with f12 fully updated. Any hints how to do this ? Oh yeh - gnome. Thanks for help! gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen brightness - full brightness on battery not possible ?
On 02/19/2010 10:28 PM, Mail Lists wrote: > To simplify question - when I unplug laptop power the screen dims - anyone know how to restore the full brightness while on battery ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
pulseaudio memory usage possible leak
Does this look appropriate on F12 ? PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 9 -11 163m 3836 2908 S 2.3 0.1 18:11.20 pulseaudio Sound is muted - best I can tell nothing (aside from gnome) is using the audio system. Is it appropriate for pulseaudio to have 163 Mb or is this a memory leak ? gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen brightness - full brightness on battery not possible ?
On 02/20/2010 12:16 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 20 February 2010 16:49:28 Andre Goree wrote: >> [an encrypted message] > > Why do you send encrypted messages to a public mailing list? > > For the OP --- if you use KDE, look under systemsettings -> advanced -> power > management -> edit profiles -> powersave -> screen -> brightness. > > If you use Gnome, then I don't know, but guess that something similar should > exist somewhere in Gnome power management settings. > gnome power manager for plugged in has a brightness slider - for batter there is only a check box for dimming the screen which I unselected - perhaps it is broken. The batter tab should have a slider too but it doesn't. All controls do work - its just something has decided to dim the screen and I can find no way to undim it while on battery. hardware/bios controls work fine but are set to full. I was a kde user but left them when post 3.5 .. sad really ... it has/had a much better philosophy .. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: pulseaudio memory usage possible leak
On 02/20/2010 01:20 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I'm using chrome on F12. It seems to handle things better. At least it > doesn't completely crash like firefox, it just reports that there was a > problem with flash, but it keeps running. Thanks for your thougts .. But 500 MB for a daemon which pipes data via a few connections sounds high to me ... no graphics in the daemon either ... just a small switchboard ... not sure what else it might be doing if not leaking mem ? I use google-chrome exclusively (64 bit) with flash and sun java - generally works way way better than FF - which I suspect will be marginalized and replaced by google-chrome as times goes by. chrome is so so so sooo much better (faster, more secure etc). gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: pulseaudio memory usage possible leak
On 02/20/2010 02:44 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Is there a way to > see all the extensions? Maybe a new google-chrome thread is in order ? > > Regarding pulseaudio I suspect that the amount of memory allocated by it > and other applications depends on the amount of memory in the system. I > have 2GB of memory in my system so that may explain the 500Mb. > Perhaps - I have 3 GiB - however allocating memory should only happen if its needed for something - a few audio buffers would shock me if it needed to be more than a few 10's of MiB. 400 sounds insane to me the more I think about it. Since the author of pulse follows this list - could you please tell us what you think is reasonable mem usage for the audio daemon? Is 1/2 a terrabyte sound reasonable to you ? gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen brightness - full brightness on battery not possible ?
On 02/20/2010 04:39 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On the Dell Latitude D810 you punch Fn + arrow keys > > to adjust brightness. Something similar may exist on your laptop. Yep - the bios keys work fine and are at full - something is makign battery less bright than when plugged in ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: screen brightness - full brightness on battery not possible ?
On 02/20/2010 12:37 PM, birger wrote: > By BIOS 'controls' I assume you mean the brightness controls on your > laptop. Have you looked through all BIOS settings to see if there is a > power management/battery saver feature in the BIOS that Gnome may not be > able to override? > > birger > > Yep - it was the BIOS - good catch - thank you!! gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: akonadi startup errors
On 02/26/2010 07:44 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi All; > > I've gotten no replies from kde-linux, so I'll ask here: > > > I upgraded to KDE 4.4 yesterday. I get this error EVERY time I start Kmail: > > [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.servers' doesn't > exist > > I've tried removing the .local/share/alonadi directory and rebooting with no > luck. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction per how to fix this? > > Thanks in advance One of the computers i 1/2 maintain had this problem - i switched the mail client to thunderbird - or evo I suppose. If you are well prepared you never use local storage specific to any mail client and instead run a local imap server as local store ... Good luck ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail / Akonadi mess
On 02/26/2010 09:31 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > John Aldrich wrote: >> I would suggest that anyone who has problems after an upgrade like this >> should try renaming ~local/share/akonadi and try again. It might also have >> had something to do with mysqld. I don't know if it was already running or >> not, but I manually started the service before renaming the folder. I know >> it wasn't mysqld alone as I had already tried it since manually starting >> the service. > > It's irrelevant, Akonadi doesn't by default use a systemwide MySQL instance > at all, it spawns its own, per user one. > > Kevin Kofler On the last remaining computer I am aware of/maintain with kmail still being used - akonadi was running, mysqld was running, and nepemonkey was running all with user privs - nothing I tried could resurrect kmail to a working state - I googled, read fedora threads etc. It was being used under gnome - if that matters. The only way I found was to killall kontact; thunderbird & As an aside, I found a long time ago that it was important to be mail client indifferent - they way I do that is to have a local imap server running and always use that for any local mail store instead of the mail clients native store - that way I only need to export/import the current contact list - and start a new client initiate 2 accounts, 1 to the ISP and one to the local imap server and we're 100% back in business. Hope you get your mail working again John ... gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: how to crank the cooling fan to max on f12?
On 02/27/2010 04:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ00/temperature, which currently shows 82C > (that's gone up significantly in the last couple minutes since i Yikes - that is hot. I dont know how to control the fan - however I'd strongly urge you to blow out any dust - a burst of compressed air (or even mouth to lap) on the cpu intake vent can do wonders. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: akonadi startup errors
On 02/27/2010 05:56 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > I got a similar (or perhaps the same) issue and at this address: > > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Nepomuk_Indexing_Agents_have_been_Disabled > > is a little box of three command line texts that worked for me. Not > necessarily a permanent fix but I can now use my pop client (kmail) again. I did not try that - we no longer use kmail .. but thank you it may be helpful for others that have not yet given up. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !
On 02/27/2010 10:59 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> I run F11 x86_64 and there are *zero* 32 bit libraries on my machine. I >> recently installed Mathematica from the Wolfram supplied binary for a >> friend. I however did not need to install any 32 bit dependencies. Are >> you sure about their dependence on 32 bit libraries? > > Umm, well, yes, I needed this specifically: > >compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686 > > This package provides libstdc++.so.5 which is needed by Mma 6.0.3. Maybe in Is there a reason you dont install the 64 bit mathematica version - I thought it was automatic when you do the install - it detects it and installs the 64 bit one as appropriate. Perhaps you kept an old install and upgraded your fedora from 32 to 64 ? I am running 64 bit no prob ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Upgrading i686 vs. x86_64. Just checking !
On 02/28/2010 07:15 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Apparently > version 7 doesn't have this problem anymore (but I didn't check this yet). > Ah could be .. I'm running 7 too. g -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
On 03/06/2010 06:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 14:04:06 -0800, > john wendel wrote: >> >> But 2.6.33 has already been released. > > Graphics and kernels are tied together in a way that makes backporting > kernels more difficult. This is part of the reason that you aren't seeing > the new kernels appear in older releases as soon as they used to. > There is long discussion related to this about how the nouveau abi change > makes it hard to switch kernels on the linux kernel mailing list. I use nouveau - and I cannot at present run 2.6.33 or 2.6.34 wihout essentially pulling in a lot of X. Tho' according to satisfy linus' complaint, it looks like on ecould compile the nouveau driver and use that - however - it sure would be nice if the nouveau folks made it easier to run both 2.6.32 and also the newer kernels on F12. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
On 03/06/2010 08:59 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: -- > > I see that *JUST RECENTLY* there was a 2.6.32.9.X-fc12 kernel being released > to test out. ON rawhide there is a 2.6.34.rc1? kernel. For Fedora stable, > *IT IS TAKING TOO LONG* to push the kernels. Hey those that say that Fedora > is BLEEDING EDGE are now being denied that claim. Slackware which is known > for stability and NOT in the upgrade constantly frenzy is at 2.6.33 > > oliva...@darkstar:~$ uname -r > 2.6.33-smp > oliva...@darkstar:~$ cat /etc/slackware-version > Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 > > But to give you credit, where credit is due. Many users out there are having > trouble because of the noveau getting in the way of the nvidia drivers and > this is causing lots of headaches and *Fedora is doing the right thing* to > wait and make sure that things work out before releasing the kernels RIGHT? > > On another note, due to the inability of Fedora to release a 2.6.32 kernel, I > was on the impression that IT was going to be SKIPPED to make way for 2.6.33 > and its many IMPROVEMENTS. Like John I will compile the new kernel as soon > as I can and see if the native nouveau just works because I could not go back > to a previous 2.6.30 kernel that I compiled because it(noveau) did not build > and I did not want to use the nvidia driver just yet. > You may want to check Linus' issues with nouveau in the newer kernels on linux-kernel ML - as alluded to earlier in thread. Just plopping the kernel onto f12 with nouveau may well not work (coz of ABI changes in nouvouch) - certainly for me neither .33 not .34 from fc13 and rawhide respectively work - however if you try and pull the new nouvouh driver it needs then it also needs a new xorg server and drm and ... so its a slippery slope. Now Dave Airlie gave linus a source for nouvea driver which will run on f12 without pulling in all the other stuff ... i think. Anyway if you find a clean way to try newer kernels (which I need coz of some nasty iwlagn bugs) so I can confirm they are fixed in kernels >= 2.6.33 .. please let me know. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: kmail stopped to work
On 03/09/2010 03:39 AM, mau...@datalogica.com wrote: > Sorry to open a new thread, but i have not access to my mail :( and i > cannot continue this thread. > I am using webmail to write thsi message. > I have F11 and i have already enabled Nempomuk on > > System Setting/Advanced/Desktop Search > > some days ago, but Nepomuk keeps to complain always as ususal. > > This morning kmail stopped, i restarted it but on notify icon does > apperas a message that roughly says: i cannot find mysql backend > database 'redland' and Nepomuk wil not started; for security reasons > and than it is impossible to read as another notify message cover this. > > Contextually, if thsi may help, dirmngr goes to 100% of cpu, and i > cannot clcik on kmail window, i can only close it forcing to quit. > > I have mail from 2002 and any help will be very apreciated > > Maurizio > I hope someone from KDE can help you. When I saw this, I changed to thunderbird - however I had carefully saved addressbook previously as ldif file and also I never use local storage for any mail client. I run a local imap server for all local mail storage - precisely so I can easily switch clients. If you are actually using kmail for your local storage - then you could try updating to f12 - f12 folks seem to have less problems than f11. Failing that the mail is stored on disk - either in maildir++ format or in mbox format ... so you can probably get to it anyway. Good luck. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Is KDE dead ? Was Re: Stable Release Updates
I'm curious how many current KDE users we have - what percent of our install base? And what percent of the desktop install base ? Since the 3.5 -> 4.0 KDE pushathon, everyone I know who was a KDE user (myself included, and Linus too!) switched to gnome and none has yet gone back. At least a part of the fuss about updates seems to be driven by KDE wanting to be faster paced than the rest - I'm curious what percent of our install base this actually represents today? For me there were only 2 things disruptive I presently recall - the last was F11 kmail no longer working after recent update - and the devastatingly bad 3.5 -> 4.0 premature release. I actually like the current general pace - its stable but we get decent flow (tho it has slowed somewhat over the 12-18 months or so it seems) of upstream updates/bug fixes and largely when appropriate larger version bumps. Tho things like firefox lag too much imho - but I no longer care as I now use chrome which is way way better. Sure there are little hiccups here and there but overall things are non-disruptive and decently up to date - and that is the right balance. Congrats fedora management, redhat and contributors - and thank you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Is KDE dead ? Was Re: Stable Release Updates
Bah, Forgot to add .. So, unless KDE dominates our install base, if KDE wants to go at a different pace, than the rest of Fedora - is that not ok? gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mail clients - which way forward?
On 03/13/2010 02:22 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I wonder if anyone might offer advice about the way forward with mail > client choice to satisfy a set of needs? I too use TB for similar reasons to you - our choices sadly are pretty limited. Basically the 2 UI's in play are kde and gnome so ... we have: a) kmail. pros: basically works. drawbacks: Its fragile (kde, akrofarti, nimrod etc). Refuses to recognize that composing html is important. b) evolution - probably the only real alternative. cons: clunky UI - prone to crashing a lot. pros: supports in encryption, calendars, maildir++. c) a few scattered low key players. d) TB. pros: generally works ok. cons: slow and built on ancient decaying software framework - should be written from ground up. gpg may not be supported. Devs are obsessed with strange choices (gloda). Ok so .. this is what we're trying to replace ;-) ;-) e) None of the above - but what ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mail clients - which way forward?
On 03/13/2010 03:25 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 03/13/2010 11:22 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >> Even though the local storage is in mbox format which I dislike (I far >> prefer maildir), I don't need it since I run a local dovecot imap >> server on each machine and run filters to copy mail to the local imap >> store which then also has the advantage that mail is client agnostic. >> > Thunderbird automatically supports mbox & maildir, providing > that dovecot & sendmail (or postfix) are properly configured > for maildir. I have exactly that and works great with Thunderbird. > I think the OP meant local store is mbox only - obviously the mail client is indifferent to the imap server storage choice. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Comments on the fastestmirror plugin
On 03/13/2010 11:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Sadly, downloading a "small" RPM is unlikely to give very reliable > results either. Due to TCP slow-start, a stable effective b/w may only > be reached after some 10's of kb have been downloaded. > > This is not an easy problem to solve. > > poc > Perhaps instead of thinking about deterministic solution .. How about monte carlo samping the mirrors - some small number of draws (n)- choose best of those - then next update - do another MC sample - every update take n more draws - after a while it should converge to a number of decent mirrors. In fact one could even break the update up into sub components - and run in parallel. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Deafening silence
On 03/14/2010 01:41 PM, Craig White wrote: > > Linux has had sound devices and drivers since way back but the software > had always laid claim to the devices directly which didn't permit things > like alert sounds sent by the OS when you were say playing music or > watching youtube or whatever. And if you want your music without interruptions (os or mail beeps) - I assume that is easily configurable? > Note that most every > distribution is also using pulse audio now. > Although, as an aside, anyone doing (serious) audio turns off pulse and uses jack - at least best I can tell from those I know that do audio processing . For real time audio in particular pulse is not ideal - as you really do need dedicated channels with 0 possibility of interrupts coming in. Pulse seems targeted at desktop use rather than audio processing. Tho I don't know why in principal pulse could not support a dedicated 'jack' mode? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
very odd screen goes dim bug in f12
I just installed a fresh f12 - fully updated - lenovo T61p laptop - using nouveau. If i go to a virtual terminal - or if I set the run level to 3 (no graphics). After some period the screen goes dark - fine - however when I awaken the screen the backlight on the LCD display is almost off - starting up (or switching back to vt1) - the graphics are dimmed too. Rebooting does NOT restore the backlight - it remains dim. If I now login - I have power applet on taskbar - suddenly (perhaps when power applet starts) suddenly screen goes bright again!!! Something about text vt's .. and dpms truly mucks up the backlight. Anyone else seen this weird/nasty[1] bug? gene [1] - I thought my display had died ... and that would be bad since this is used for RW (real work)!!! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gpg-agent hosed for one user....
On 03/30/2010 06:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > This is F11, KDE. > > Seems gpg-agent is hosed for one user. I think it may have to do with > the cache for the private key. ... > I get the feeling there is a corrupt file...or stuck filefrom what I > can tell gpg-agent interfaces with pinentry but don't know what else to > do... > > Any ideas? What happens if in that shell - you kill and restart a fresh gpg-agent ? (e.g eval $(gpg-agent --daemon --write-env-file)) gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: chromium install problem
On 03/30/2010 02:15 PM, Jim wrote: > Trying to install the latest > chromium-5.0.360.0-0.1.20100322svn42211.fc12.x86_64.rpm I'm getting a > dependency requirement of about 60 Lib files that needs to also be > installed. > > Is there a easier way of installing these lib files than one at a time. I'd suggest using google-chrome instead ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: no flash in chromium-browser (from /spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F12/)
On 03/31/2010 07:38 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > flash works in google-chrome. This is F12-x86_64. Using > 32-bit flash wrapped for 64 bit. > > In chromium-browser 5.0.365.0 flash is detected, but does not work. In > about:plugins flash is there (1st item). But visiting a flash site says > 'missing plugin'. I duplicated the working google-chrome setup (copied > /opt/google/chrome/plugins to /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/plugins, which is > all just symlinks to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped, and which all works > in google-chrome and in firefox). > It has never worked in chromium (I had no end of problems with chromium) - stick with google-chrome. FYI - the beta 64 bit flash works fine too ... gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
N wifi broke after kernel update
Wireless stopped working after latest kernel update. It connects and works fine using wired/ It connects and works fine with wireless until I use it for more than a host check and a ping check. Shortly after trying to use the connection (heavy load from chrome restoring a lot of saved tabs) - it stops = NM thinks its ok - ifconfig wlan0 shows it has an ip - iwconfig looks normal. However I cannot ping the default route any longer. /var/log/messages shows nothing iwlagn related - no oops etc wpa_supplicant remains quiet. rebooting produces same result with kernel is 2.6.32.10-90 (x86_64). rmmod iwlagn; modprobe iwlagn ===> does not revive it. Booting back to older kernel-2.6.9-70 works fine - so problem is only in the newer kernel. I did not see this using same computer earlier on a 802.11g network - so it seesm its only with N. Filed bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578663 gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: N wifi broke after kernel update
On 03/31/2010 09:27 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Gene, > > Out of curiosity, did you check ipv6 settings? You might have only ipv4 > network, and ipv6 settings are enabled by default? > > I had such a case and I was cursing the new kernels, I wanted to write bug > reports and do a bunch of things, I went to the Administrator of the network > and blamed it on him, because wired connections would work and this one would > not , I checked the settings again and again, several times over, saw the > ipv6 check and removed it and solved the problem by myself :) I hope a > solution like this is possible for you, if not, I still tried and shared my > story. > > Regards, > > Antonio > > I thought about that too but IPV6 is set to 'ignore' in nm-applet - unless there is somewhere else that needs it ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: N wifi broke after kernel update
On 03/31/2010 09:39 PM, Mail Lists wrote: > On 03/31/2010 09:27 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> >> Gene, >> >> Out of curiosity, did you check ipv6 settings? You might have only ipv4 >> network, and ipv6 settings are enabled by default? >> >> I had such a case and I was cursing the new kernels, I wanted to write bug >> reports and do a bunch of things, I went to the Administrator of the network >> and blamed it on him, because wired connections would work and this one >> would not , I checked the settings again and again, several times over, saw >> the ipv6 check and removed it and solved the problem by myself :) I hope a >> solution like this is possible for you, if not, I still tried and shared my >> story. >> >> Regards, >> >> Antonio >> >> > > > I thought about that too but IPV6 is set to 'ignore' in nm-applet - > unless there is somewhere else that needs it ? I do see dns requests but only after A request fails - which of course happens when network is down. I dont know who is doing IP6 requests tho' .. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: N wifi broke after kernel update
On 03/31/2010 09:15 PM, Mail Lists wrote: > > Wireless stopped working after latest kernel update. ... > > Filed bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578663 > Happy to report this has already been fixed (thank you john linville!!) in the 2.6.32.10-94.fc12 kernel build available in koji. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: no flash in chromium-browser (from /spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F12/)
On 04/02/2010 08:57 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 12:01 -0400, Jim wrote: > >> FC12-X86_64 >> >> I'm using the same version 5.0.365.0 of Chromium and Flash is playing on >> all websites, in fact even on Foxnews where Firefox won't. >> >> I think your problem is in Fedora or you haven't imported all the >> settings over from Firefox to Chromuim. > > Do you have any crashes or at least persistent crashes with it using > flash on 64bit? Or do you use 32bit flash? > Could also be java problem - chrome uses the new API - and therefore needs sun java (for now) - I think this killed java in chromium tho it may have been ported back to use the old java API i dont know. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: recommend hardware firewall
Lots of good comments here. I have seen a befsx (newer than the befsr) which could not keep up with a cable internet connection - reduced d/l by 20% or so. This was a nominal 30 Mb/s d/l and the router was definitely the bottleneck. The primary firewall, linux with over 30,000 rules has no such issue - its a 3 Ghz Pentium D with 3com 905 C ethernet controllers. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox rant, thanks for konqueror to the KDE devs.
On 04/10/2010 05:10 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> even though it has become a big and ugly resource taker :(. That is certainly true .. tho' not as bad as it once was. The other day I was giving it a chance and >> browsing the web happily, and then all of a sudden my >> machine died on me, I could not move the mouse, I could not > Clerarly a kernel oops - even if triggered by ff. >> I happen to think that Firefox does a lot of things for me >> that >> Konqueror cannot handle. For example, Konqueror cannot >> handle the many > These days, I have found that google-chrome is hands down the best browser - its way faster and works with java[script]. Good luck ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox
On 04/11/2010 08:26 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Quick note: Firefox 3.6.x will be pushed out as an update in sometime, > features out of progress plugins. Essentially, if Flash or any other > plugin crashes on that version onwards, it will not take down the > entire browser anymore. You can simply reload the page and continue. Or just switch to google-chrome - its way way faster and doesn't crash or suck memory up like there's no tomorrow. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox
On 04/11/2010 08:35 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>Or just switch to google-chrome - its way way faster and doesn't crash >> or suck memory up like there's no tomorrow. > > On my system its the exact opposite! I'm on 64 bit F11. > I use the 64 bit google-chrome beta too but on f12 ... using sun java and 64 bit flash ... no troubles yet ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox
On 04/11/2010 08:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I don't have any memory problems with Firefox. I am also uninterested > in switching to a proprietary browser. I have Chromium running on my > system to evaluate progress. Whatever works for you ... chromium has some problems however so not a good test of google-chrome. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kmail 1.1.32 Issue
On 04/17/2010 07:19 AM, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > Hi > > I've got a problem with the Fedora 12 KDE 4.4.1 and KDE 4.4.2 versions > of Kmail (just upgraded). There are five messages stuck in the inbox > that I cannot delete. I have tried the Kmail delete button. Also > done a 'cd' to .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/cur. There is nothing > in there to delete. In the inbox I can see messages with a subject of > (No Subject) including the brackets. The sender is "Unknown" and the > date is "Unknown". Mail download is from my ISP by Kmail. > > Can anyone suggest where else I can look to delete these left over > stubs of previous messages ? > > > Richard > http://www.sheflug.org.uk For what its worth I had seen similar things back in fedora 7 ... my best advice is as follows: 1) Do not use kmail or any mail client to actually store your local mail - ever. What I do is run a local imap server (dovecot) and keep all mail there. Once its up just use kmail to copy all your existing local stored mails to the imap server. I suspect you'll find those 'dummy stub mails' will not be copied - even if something does you should be able to delete it as it is now on imap server (using kmail or any other mail client for that matter). 2) Exit kmail, mv your .kde/share/apps/kmail to a backup area and restart and reset up your kmail. Now that your local store is imap this will be a breeze. Plus you now can easily try or switch to other mail clients if you ever want to without worrying about moving local stored mails. Regards gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fwd: Updates next steps
Hi: > > 1. Limit the frequency of non-critical updates to once per week in > stable releases Do not create client policy on the server side - it is way to restrictive and wont satisfy the client needs of many. And, not using the full bandwidth is very suboptimal. (Like a 30 minute lawn watering, where the water company limits your water to 2 minutes of water then off for 1 hour .. :-) Any 'limiting' of updates ( to weekly or whatever frequenccy) should be done at the client side - if you want to update weekly - go ahead - but let me update when I choose to, be it daily, monthly or every 3.2 days. Enhance packagekit to offer update on scheduling if it doesn't already do that - or set it to download but not update ... or whatever makes you happy like using cron. > > 2. Establish norms or rules that limit the types of changes in stable > releases to ensure the releases remain stable These are largely up to the maintainer and there was discussion about improving quality, testing etc - that is a healthy focus. However again, Fedora users broadly like the way things happen (not all but broadly - for some the lags in some packages from upstream are way too long already - for others the rapid updates of key packages is a huge improvement in functionality and efficiency of human resources over back-porting fixes (security or otehrwise). If you are looking for the fedora equivalent of ubuntu lts - you wont find it - the closest, would be centos or ubuntu lts ;-) If you want to pitch for a Fedora LTS - I suspect you'll find a lovely following - not from the desktop users - but from the server side. However, this discussion, along with rolling releases happens now and again ... and we are in much the same place today. > > Thoughts? What is the best way to accomplish these two things? My view - dont. You're treeing up the wrong bark ...I for one dont want to accomplish your goals as they are undesirable. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where is everything?
I think the answer is 42 ... :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?
On 05/07/2010 03:07 AM, kalinix wrote: > > or even better: > http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=205.188.168.107 Thats just a geoip for mail checking a much much better starting point is -this- :> http://www.senderbase.org/senderbase_queries/detailip?search_string=205.188.168.107 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SNAT
On 01/10/2010 09:34 AM, David Hláčik wrote: I am very confused by: a) My "router" has 1 interface eth0 - so err.. you're trying to run 2 networks on same eth0 ? b) The DSL modem is not natting - yet its IP on LAN side is RFC 1981 I'd suggest clearly laying out your network - perhaps others understand what your doing/trying to do .. but I for one dont. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!
On 01/10/2010 04:38 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > I'm happy to announce that the Fedora mailing list migration to Fedora > infrastructure has been completed! Many thanks to all involved in this Thanks for your efforts (all 17 hours today!) ... it works great and I'm happy to report the turn around time has improved enormously from 10-25 mins to normal (ie 1-3 mins) .. congrats! One favor - to make it simple could you post a list of all outgoing mx servers the list will send its outbound mail on - so we can whitelist them. I have only seen one today (bastion.fedoraproject.org) and a diff one yesterday (mx1-phx2.redhat.com). Thanks again for your efforts. gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!
On 01/10/2010 02:11 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > Everything should be routed through bastion.fedoraproject.org > > Dennis > Great - thank you! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fwd: ssh and proxy
On 01/15/2010 04:43 AM, Adel ESSAFI wrote: > I have a problem with ssh and the proxy (http). > > I have followed all the steps of this link > > > http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php > > but when I try to ssh my server, I get this 1) Did you set up and http_proxy on your own server - what port is it listening on ? 2) I much much prefer proxytunnel to corkscrew which is too simple and I found falls down on all but simplest cases. 3) you may need to have your server listen on port 443 as your company firewall may not let you go out on anything other than 80 or 443. - in which case you will need to deal with ssl - and frankly corkscrew wont cut it. good luck -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?
On 01/17/2010 05:18 AM, s wrote: > plymouth-set-default-theme --list Thats great thank you. Where can one find out what each 'theme' is - short of installing, rebuilding initrd and rebooting - are they documented somewhere - or are images available on the web ? I failed to find the plymouth website. Looking in /lib/plymouth (c/o plymouth --get-splash-plugin-path) .. has the dynamic libraries for each theme, no images to help visualize. man plymouth - nothing info plymouth - nothing thanks gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?
On 01/17/2010 12:25 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>> plymouth-set-default-theme --list >> > > Isn't that the same as hitting ESC during the boot process? No - it just gives a list of currently installed plugin names. > Even better, try searching for youtube videos. The phoronix channel in > particular. ;) Yeh ok - but shud these things not be documented somewhere with images ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?
On 01/17/2010 01:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>Yeh ok - but shud these things not be documented somewhere with images ? > > That is very true. But I guess like most apps in linux, the developers > are not always interested in providing good documentation. > I dont agree - it is true for a subset - NetworkManager, Dbus, plymouth spring to mind .. not sure whats common among these ... Many - no definitely most - apps are quite well documented (gcc, sendmail, apache, squid, iptables, ssh[d], ksh, xterm, gdm (ok well some docs anyway), named etc etc etc). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What are the 3 progress bars during a Fedora Boot Telling me?
On 01/17/2010 05:30 PM, Tim wrote: > You'll notice a common trend of graphical apps with poor documentation, > based on the belief that they're self-evident, versus console apps that > (much more obviously) need documentation. > Possibly possibly not - DBUS is not graphical however ... not is NetworkManager - nm-applet yes ... but NM itself is a server daemon ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium
On 01/18/2010 09:46 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > F12 x86_64, updated. I'm using Google Chrome as my default browser, but > its only in 32-bit and Java (java-1.6.0-openjdk) doesn't work, in the Install google-chrome-beta (64 bit) then install java (64 bit) and flash( 64 bit) The cd /opt/google/chrome/plugins (mkdir plugins if not there) ln -s /libflashplayer.so . ln -s /libnpjp2.so . And flash and java work fine. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium
On 01/18/2010 12:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I installed the 64-bit version. It is completely non-functional. It > won't even open the about:plugins page let alone an actual web page > (they all just time out; I don't use a proxy server BTW). That is odd - it works fine for me. This was beta yes ? Make sure everything is 63 bit - including flash - I know things go very very strange if 32 bit is mixed in with 64 bit. > > Also, I don't know which version of Java you mean. As I already said, I > have openjdk and was asking if I had to change to Sun's Java. suns java - then make link as prev email. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium
On 01/18/2010 12:46 PM, Mail Lists wrote: > On 01/18/2010 12:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> I installed the 64-bit version. It is completely non-functional. It >> won't even open the about:plugins page let alone an actual web page >> (they all just time out; I don't use a proxy server BTW). > > That is odd - it works fine for me. This was beta yes ? > > Make sure everything is 63 bit - including flash - I know things go > very very strange if 32 bit is mixed in with 64 bit. Did you yum erase the 32 bit google-chrome first ? If not I'd yum erase both - then re-install the 64 bit one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium
On 01/18/2010 12:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Thanks, I'll try that. Is there an actual repo for Sun Java, or does one > have to keeping checking their website for any changes? > > poc > No repo no - justhave to download as far as I know. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium
On 01/18/2010 02:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > erase both - then re-install the 64 bit one. > > That's what I did. Mystery - did you unload all 32 bit extensions too ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium
On 01/18/2010 07:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Mystery - did you unload all 32 bit extensions too ? > > No, and that's an interesting idea, but for now I'm just going to stick > with 32-bit Chrome and Sun Java. > Ah that I bet is the problem ... anyway whatever works for you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
wireless N and nm-applet - f12
f12 - updated as of today. Anyone else notice that the information popup (right click & select "Connection Information") for nm-applet shows 'Unknown' for current speed when connected to 802.11n - but for 11g it works fine ? gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: wireless N and nm-applet - f12
On 01/20/2010 12:42 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Perhaps a change in the driver that doesn't report speed when running > N? What does "iwlist wlan0 rate" show? Shows no speed information either - this is iwl4965 - there have been a ton of driver improvements in 2.6.32 so I suspect trying the newer kernel is the next step. Thanks gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Java and Chrome/Chromium [SOLVED]
On 01/21/2010 08:08 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > 2) ln -s /usr/java/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so > /opt/google/chrome/plugins > (this was the clue hardest to find, I wasted a lot of time trying > libjava_xxx.so > before hitting on this.) This was in my first reply to you :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?
On 01/23/2010 05:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > The mac address is the second line in the the connection information > displayed for the active connection on my machine. >> That is my MAC address - i know that one - i'd like to see the MAC address of the AP I am connected to - (and also the MAC's of all available APs esp when there are multiple AP's on same SSID. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?
On 01/23/2010 05:33 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > That's *your* MAC Address. Mr "Mail Llists" would like to see the MAC > of the Access Point, so he can discriminate multiple APs with the same > SSID Exactly ... gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - nm-applet - enhancement maybe ?
On 01/24/2010 09:25 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> >> That indeed is true. However, in the connection information is the ip >> address of the AP your connected to. >> Then : arp -a ip-address >> will give you its MAC address > > You are of course correct, however that's not the point of the original post: > Yes indeed - also its even easier to see it via iwconfig wlan0 .. but as sam said thats not the point. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pinentry-gtk segfaulting
On 01/29/2010 05:32 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > Is there a bz for the pinentry problem rather than the abrt issue? i didnt see one -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
On 01/29/2010 08:29 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > There is no RPM named DocumentViewer. However, I *do* have evince > installed on my F11 machine, and when it opens it claims to be "Document > Viewer". SO, I would say what you are using is indeed "evince". File > you bug report against it. (thanks for the screenshot) > That is plain silly - it should call itself what it is - evince. It would be fine for it to say - "evince a pdf document viewer" . but just document viewer ? mmm what doc ? what program ? ug. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
chromium vs google-chrome
Thank you Spot for providing a chromium repo - I am not sure where to report this so am starting here; Java works fine in google-chrome - but not in chromium. about:plugins shows the sun java (new api libnpjp2.so, vers 1.6.0u18) just as it does for google-chrome however any java test fails to find java. Adding links to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins makes no difference. This is on 64 bit - I think 32 bit has same problem. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
On 01/30/2010 04:34 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > It's like asking for Coke and getting Pepsi, no matter how great someone else > thinks it is, it's not what you asked for, wanted, or thought it was. ;-( > They are both soft drinks .. so in fact you got Dr Pepper - same color also a drink ... 8=) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will Firefox 3.6 be pushed?
On 01/31/2010 04:14 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > A less dangerous solution is to use Remi Collet's repository at > http://blog.famillecollet.com/ . Remi actually builds the current Firefox > for F12, so you don't end up with a dependency mess. Or perhaps just download it direct from mozilla.org ( assuming theirs is a static build) > But a word of warning about Firefox 3.6: don't upgrade to 3.6 (no matter > how) if you use the OpenJDK plugin, as it has not been ported yet. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.
On 02/06/2010 09:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Just collected all the data on all the systems I use > with ATI cards, and the results are (mostly) not pretty: > > Fedora 12 systems with ATI cards: Do you happen to know whether f12 will work with ATI mobility HD 5830 which is in a bunch of laptops ? (I posted separately too - but since you seem to know about ATI thought I'd ask directly. thanks gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ATI graphics mobility 5830 - does it work?
On 02/07/2010 05:33 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday 07 February 2010 18:57:27 Kevin Kofler wrote: Thank you both for your thoughts - however I'd need this to run in more modern 1920 x 1080 mode .. so sounds like vesa is not use. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ATI graphics mobility 5830 - does it work?
On 02/07/2010 05:51 PM, Mail Lists wrote: > On 02/07/2010 05:33 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: What about the rpmfusion packed ATI drivers - do they work I wonder ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
