Re: Renaming USB WD 2TB drives

[JD]

On 02/05/2018 10:25 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:



Greetings,

I've been trying to use fatlabel to rename a Western Digital 2TB 
USB/external drive. However, the results have been with no success 
either with the drive mounted or not.


Much thanks for any advice on how to proceed.

(Related output is appended below),

Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com

#


root@pegasus ~> lsusb -d 1058:25e1
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1058:25e1 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.

root@pegasus ~> dmesg | tail
[ 7678.356619] ses 6:0:0:1: Attached Enclosure device
[ 7678.356860] ready
[ 7678.357476] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: 
(2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)

[ 7678.359054] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 7678.359056] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
[ 7678.360087] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[ 7678.360104] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 7678.421927]  sdb: sdb1
[ 7678.425461] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk

root@pegasus ~> fatlabel /dev/sdb1 EPRINC2TB
Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.


manpage says:

fatlabel (8) - set or get MS-DOS filesystem label

So, is (are) the partion (partitions) formatted as vfat filesystem?

If they are not formatted as vfat filesystems,  then you have to label them
using the labeling command specific to the type of FS you will create on
them.
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Problem browsing at some hotspots

[JD]

Hi all,
some hotspots are censoring many websites which they find offensive or 
objectionable,
including websites that discuss evolution and the possible changes that 
can occur
due to the current weakening of Earth's magnetic field, and the 
expanding south atlantic

hole in the magnetic field... This is just one example.

So, I would like to know if there are members on this list who know how 
to get around

such blocking by these hotspots? Are there FF add-ons that can do it?

Thanx!!
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Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile into 
another?

Does straightforward copy work?
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On 02/07/2018 12:34 PM, Richard England wrote:

On 02/07/2018 09:44 AM, JD wrote:
What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile 
into another?

Does straightforward copy work?
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There is a FF feature to backup and restore your bookmarks (see 
below). I believe you should be able to use this to move your bookmarks.


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/restore-bookmarks-from-backup-or-move-them 

I tried the copy of the 
/bookmarkbackups/bookmarks-2018-02-01_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4 
to /tmp

and then tried to restore bookmarks from that file.
I get the error that it is corrupted. I have more that 12 such backup files,
but FF keeps saying they are corrupted, or the erros says unable to 
process selected file.

Wish there were a util built-in to FF that could fix bookmark files.
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On 02/07/2018 01:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/07/2018 09:44 AM, JD wrote:
What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile 
into another?


If you open the bookmarks window on the first profile, you can export 
to HTML.  Then you can do import from HTML on the other profile.

Hi Sam,
It seems that all the backup bookmarks are either in some sort of 
compressed or encrypted format.

When I use the shell "file" command on the backup files,
it says they are "data".
Here is a list of hte backup files:
bookmarks-2017-08-06_24_OZipyb+ChF8R9Bh+1qM4JQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-08-15_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-08-21_24_PnL7QP9IrEGUOw93USk+WQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-08-26_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-09-04_24_PnL7QP9IrEGUOw93USk+WQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-09-07_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-09-13_24_PnL7QP9IrEGUOw93USk+WQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-10-12_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-01_24_bxTy7qHANZlOMlmKlsP+1w==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-07_24_9gsypEZcQR2+vFXtAI+x0Q==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-17_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-24_24_H0jK4dFWUWfQKm1FiGarSg==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2018-01-19_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2018-01-24_24_H0jK4dFWUWfQKm1FiGarSg==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2018-02-01_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4

Am I supposed to first pass them through some other utility to convert 
them to plain html?

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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 02/07/2018 12:23 PM, JD wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 02/07/2018 01:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/07/2018 09:44 AM, JD wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile into
>>>> another?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you open the bookmarks window on the first profile, you can export to
>>> HTML.  Then you can do import from HTML on the other profile.
>>>
>> Hi Sam,
>> It seems that all the backup bookmarks are either in some sort of
>> compressed or encrypted format.
>>
>
> Mozilla uses a custom LZ4 compression on those file.
>
> When I use the shell "file" command on the backup files,
>> it says they are "data".
>> Here is a list of hte backup files:
>> bookmarks-2017-08-06_24_OZipyb+ChF8R9Bh+1qM4JQ==.jsonlz4
>>
>> Am I supposed to first pass them through some other utility to convert
>> them to plain html?
>>
>
> You're using the wrong option.  You would have to use the "Restore" option
> and that would wipe out all your existing bookmarks first.  In the
> bookmarks window (try CTRL-SHIFT-o), there's an option under the "Import
> and Backup" menu to "Export Bookmarks as HTML".  Use that. You'll also see
> there the corresponding "Import Bookmarks from HTML".
>
>
​Well, i just used the restore and I got
"​
 Unable to process the backup file.
​ "​
on ever instance of the backup bookmarks files that
are in that profile I wanted to import them from.
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On 02/08/2018 09:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/08/2018 06:26 PM, JD wrote:
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb <mailto:sam...@sieb.net>> wrote:

You're using the wrong option.  You would have to use the "Restore"
option and that would wipe out all your existing bookmarks first. 
In the bookmarks window (try CTRL-SHIFT-o), there's an option under

the "Import and Backup" menu to "Export Bookmarks as HTML". Use
that. You'll also see there the corresponding "Import Bookmarks from
HTML".


​Well, i just used the restore and I got
"​
  Unable to process the backup file.
​ "​
on ever instance of the backup bookmarks files that
are in that profile I wanted to import them from.


Ok, so did you try the other method?

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.

I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded

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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
>> In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
>> am getting Unable to process the backup file.
>>
>
> I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You
> should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window and
> use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go to the
> bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.
>


Sam - That's EXACTLY what I did!!!


> I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
>> I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
>> but the command said:
>> Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded
>>
>
> They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header.  See
> https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.


​OK! Will do. Will get back to you.
​
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On 02/09/2018 03:12 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html. You 
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window 
and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go 
to the bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.



I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded


They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header. See 
https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.
OK, I downloaded the dejsonlz4 tarball, and built it, and used it on one 
of the backup files.


Now, in order to import it as html, I need to convert it to html first.

I do not see a tool that readily converts json to html.
There are websites that let you paste the json text and they output html 
text.
I have not found sites that let you upload the json file, and give you 
the url to download the html output file.


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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

[JD]

On 02/09/2018 09:55 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/09/2018 05:59 PM, JD wrote:


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Samuel Sieb <mailto:sam...@sieb.net>> wrote:


On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks
window and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new
profile, you go to the bookmarks window and use the "import from
html" option.



Sam - That's EXACTLY what I did!!!


Then I don't understand why you have anything to do with the backup 
directory.  You should only be dealing with the bookmarks that are in 
the browser profile.  Are the bookmarks gone?

Yes :(
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unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

[JD]

Tried to bring up a mediateck usb wifi stick with a built-in antenna.

$ dmesg | grep 'usb 1-1'
[ 3632.100121] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 13 using xhci_hcd
[ 3633.314114] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd
[ 3633.446949] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d, idProduct=7610
[ 3633.446954] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[ 3633.446956] usb 1-1: Product: WiFi
[ 3633.446958] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: MediaTek
[ 3633.446960] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 1.0

$ lsmod | grep 2800
rt2800usb  27189  0
rt2x00usb  19835  1 rt2800usb
rt2800lib  91269  1 rt2800usb
rt2x00lib  66983  3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb
crc_ccitt  12613  1 rt2800lib
mac80211  683564  4 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,iwldvm

and
$ lshw
shows this:
.
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
  *-usbhost:1
   product: xHCI Host Controller
   vendor: Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64 xhci-hcd
   physical id: 1
   bus info: usb@1
   logical name: usb1
   version: 3.19
   capabilities: usb-2.00
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
 *-usb UNCLAIMED   << Notice This. No driver??? 
claimed it

  description: Generic USB device
  product: WiFi
  vendor: MediaTek
  physical id: 1
  bus info: usb@1:1
  version: 1.00
  serial: 1.0
  capabilities: usb-2.01
  configuration: maxpower=160mA speed=480Mbit/s

But, ifconfig only shows only these interfaces:
$ ifconfig
bond0: flags=5123  mtu 1500

em1: flags=4099  mtu 1500

lo: flags=73  mtu 65536

virbr0: flags=4099  mtu 1500

So, what is missing as far as drivers, or apps 
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Re: unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

[JD]

On 02/21/2018 10:18 AM, JD wrote:



On 02/21/2018 07:41 AM, jarmo wrote:

Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:23:49 -0400
"George N. White III"  kirjoitti:



There seem to be lots of "MediaTeK 7610" dongles with various chips
inside.  You could try
adding your USB id to the list of devices supported by the rt2800usb
module:

https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?309580-Mediatek-MT7610-Ralink-RT2870 



If this fails you might at least get the details for your chipset.

There is also: https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u/


I have Asus AC51 dongle, with MediaTek cip. Never have got it working.
Even package says, that working with LINUX, yes maybe, driver is for
kernel 2.6.x
Wrote to ASUS, they said, that they have nothing to do with drivers...

So, now I have one electrical garbage more :) Thank heaven, it didn't
cost much...

Jarmo
Well Jamo, I did come across the driver from Mediatek and I am trying 
to see if it will build and run.



Well, that was quick 
It will not compile due to errors:

/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c: 
In function ‘__RtmpOSFSInfoChange’:
/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1109:20: 
error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘int’ from type ‘kuid_t’

   pOSFSInfo->fsuid = current_fsuid();
^
/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1110:20: 
error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘int’ from type ‘kgid_t’

   pOSFSInfo->fsgid = current_fsgid();
.
.
.
.
.
.
 ^
make[2]: *** 
[/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.o] 
Error 1
make[1]: *** 
[_module_/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux] 
Error 2'

make: *** [LINUX] Error 2
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Re: unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

[JD]

On 02/21/2018 06:23 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On 20 February 2018 at 22:17, JD <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Tried to bring up a mediateck usb wifi stick with a built-in antenna.

$ dmesg | grep 'usb 1-1'
[ 3632.100121] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 13 using
xhci_hcd
[ 3633.314114] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 14 using
xhci_hcd
[ 3633.446949] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d,
idProduct=7610
[ 3633.446954] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[ 3633.446956] usb 1-1: Product: WiFi
[ 3633.446958] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: MediaTek
[ 3633.446960] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 1.0

$ lsmod | grep 2800
rt2800usb  27189  0
rt2x00usb  19835  1 rt2800usb
rt2800lib  91269  1 rt2800usb
rt2x00lib  66983  3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb
crc_ccitt  12613  1 rt2800lib
mac80211  683564  4 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,iwldvm

and
$ lshw
shows this:
.
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
  *-usbhost:1
   product: xHCI Host Controller
   vendor: Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64 xhci-hcd
   physical id: 1
   bus info: usb@1
   logical name: usb1
   version: 3.19
   capabilities: usb-2.00
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
 *-usb UNCLAIMED  <<<<<< Notice This. No
driver??? claimed it
  description: Generic USB device
  product: WiFi
  vendor: MediaTek
  physical id: 1
  bus info: usb@1:1
  version: 1.00
  serial: 1.0
  capabilities: usb-2.01
  configuration: maxpower=160mA speed=480Mbit/s

But, ifconfig only shows only these interfaces:
$ ifconfig
bond0: flags=5123 mtu 1500

em1: flags=4099  mtu 1500

lo: flags=73  mtu 65536

virbr0: flags=4099  mtu 1500

So, what is missing as far as drivers, or apps 
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There seem to be lots of "MediaTeK 7610" dongles with various chips 
inside.  You could try
adding your USB id to the list of devices supported by the rt2800usb 
module:


https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?309580-Mediatek-MT7610-Ralink-RT2870

If this fails you might at least get the details for your chipset.

There is also: https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u/

--
George N. White III

linux-wireless says:


 Unsupported chips

 *
   *MT7630E*802.11b/g/n 1T1R 2.4 GHzCombo Card (Jakub Kicinski
   kubak...@wp.pl <mailto:kubak...@wp.pl>:
   http://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7630e)

 *
   *MT7610U/MT7612U*802.11a/b/g/n/ac 1T1R 2.4 GHzUSB (Hans Ulli Kroll
   ulli.kr...@googlemail.com <mailto:ulli.kr...@googlemail.com>:
   https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u)

 *
   Any new MediaTek chip <https://wikidevi.com/wiki/MediaTek>. MediaTek
   drivers can be downloaded from:
   http://www.mediatek.com/en/downloads1/downloads/

Which includes my wifi dongle (mt7610U) - U stands for USB.

Can anyone suggest a wifi 300 or 600 mbps usb dongle that will work
with multiple fedora machines ranging from fc18 to fc27 ?
Thanx!
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Re: unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

[JD]

On 02/21/2018 11:16 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On 21 February 2018 at 13:37, JD <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:




Can anyone suggest a wifi 300 or 600 mbps usb dongle that will work
with multiple fedora machines ranging from fc18 to fc27 ?
Thanx!




Do you really need a wifi dongle or could you use a wifi extender with
ethernet cables?In my experience , if you don't need mobility so can
live with cables, wifi  extenders have better antennae and are generally
much less troublesome than USB dongles once you get them set up.


--
George N. White III

Hi George,
Mobility is definitely part of the Rx. :) :)
So, an extender will not "work" in this case.
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

[JD]

On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:

kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates12 
M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates   
1.2 M


Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop system hasn't been updated 
one
can use

dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly --downloaddir=/tmp install broadcom-wl

to get

  kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora 
11 M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
1.2 M
After all this time, I was able to return to my friend's laptop and I 
was ready

with all the rpms outlined by Ed.

They all installed, albeit, with the command option --disablerepo=*
They all installed, (from external disk), and I rebooted.
Network came up. I thought I was out of the woods and into
a well mapped world.
I did the update, and all the packages updated.
No problems. I did a clean shutdown.
That was yesterday.
Today, I powered up the machine, and it proceeded to do fsck
But I had done a clean install and a clcean shutdown!!!
After fsck, I rebooted.
AGAIN - machines started to do fsck.
I waited, did another clean shutdown.
AGAIN the machine ran fsck
How in tarnation can I put an end to this?
I had not experienced this on other machines running older
versions of fedora.
OK... that was the first problem today,
Problem 2:
Network will not come up :( :( :(
I checked to make sure all the rpm packages that brought up the network 
were still there.

And indeed they are.
Yet the network will not come up :(
I have to admit that I had not set up a proper firewall yesterday.
The machine's firewall was still in it's "first install state" and I 
assume in a "promiscuous" configuration.
I do not know, I am only guessing what could have happened and by what 
cause!!!


So, how do I proceed now?
Should I re-install the rpms that first brought up the machine's wifi?
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Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

[JD]

On 02/26/2018 01:42 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 02/26/18 15:16, wwp wrote:

I won't go further here, it's not only off-topic but also not replying
to the original topic of this thread. You're welcome on the Claws Mail
users mailing-list or IRC channel if you want!


.

"Claws Mail users mailing-list if you want!"

I may try that, thanks for the help,

Bob


I google mail.
I found that my mail client TB has NO WAY of forcing googl'e gmail server
to resend emails.
But the Gmail server does have some ways to forward old emails to an
email address of your choice.
If your email provider has this feature on their server, you might try
this approach.
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setting screen resolution at boot

[JD]

Hi all,
on fc27:
how do I set the screen resolution to less than 1920X1080 ?
I would like to reduce it to something like  1280X1080
Is that "doable"? (Pardon my use of doable :) :)
I would like the DT (Mate) to respect that resolution and show
everything on desktop as if that is the HW resolution.

Thanx!!
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Re: setting screen resolution at boot

[JD]

On 03/01/2018 06:37 PM, stan wrote:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:47:25 -0700
JD  wrote:


Hi all,
on fc27:
how do I set the screen resolution to less than 1920X1080 ?
I would like to reduce it to something like  1280X1080
Is that "doable"? (Pardon my use of doable :) :)
I would like the DT (Mate) to respect that resolution and show
everything on desktop as if that is the HW resolution.

I think you meant 1280x720.  But if your monitor is digital, this is a
bad idea.  There was a recent discussion on this list about why it is a
bad idea; the summary is that the dots will not align properly for
text on a lower resolution.  Everything will look fuzzy.

Interesting!!! I am not familiar with that, as this is the first time I am
encountering this problem of fedora on a 1920x1200 screen.
1. Default fonts are just too small.
2. Icons of running apps on the bottom panel of Mate DT
are incredibly small and undiscernible.
3. On the first gui login creen, if  click on the tiny icon of power switch,
the drop down menu is so tiny,  I have to use 2.0 power reading glasses
to see where the Shutdown, or Restart selections are.



If you are using X, and an analog monitor, you can put a configuration
file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.  A search on the web will give you
the format.  Use xrandr to get the numbers to plug in.

This is a laptop, so no, it is not an old analog display :)


I don't know how to do this for wayland.

But I think the better thing for you to do is to up the size of fonts
that everything uses, if possible.  Text will look a lot better.

I have done that, but I thought it is a rather kludgey thing to do,
because there does not seem to be a system-wide setting that
is used by all components of system and apps.

Thanx for the heads up.
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Linux Kernel 4.14.12 Released to Disable x86 PTI for AMD Processors

[JD]

Is the PTI patch available for download by itself?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-4-14-12-released-to-disable-x86-pti-for-amd-radeon-processors-519253.shtml

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Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

[JD]

How about checking the permissions of all files/dirs in phil?

Run
ls -lR phil

and report results.

On 03/11/2018 12:48 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

I started deleting GBs of stuff from:

/dev/sdb1 /backup

but df did not reduce from 95% so I looked more closely and found this 
weirdness:


# du -s -BG 20180216
43G 20180216

# du -s -BG 20180216/*
1G  20180216/naf_dirs
43G 20180216/phil
1G  20180216/root

# du -s -BG 20180216/phil/*
1G  20180216/phil/0
1G  20180216/phil/0_finance
1G  20180216/phil/0_naf
1G  20180216/phil/Maildir
1G  20180216/phil/txts
1G  20180216/phil/vimwiki

Where has ~37GB disappeared to?  There are no files held open and I 
have successfully umounted and re-mounted the partition - what is 
going on?


Thanks,

Phil.

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Re: alternative to skype

[JD]

On 03/18/2018 02:59 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2018-03-17 at 22:48 -0400, fred roller wrote:

gmail has video connect (both might need an account but so does skype) and the 
drive would allow shared files.  Google voice is a free service which does 
video as well I believe.

Google Voice only exists in the US.

Google Hangouts is an alternative available everywhere. It also allows
multi-part video-conferencing, which I think Skype only has in the
business version (at least it used to be that way). And Google, never
happy with only one offering, also has Allo and Duo.

There's also WhatsApp (one-to-one video only AFAIK), and I think
Facebook.

All of these are closed-source of course, but so is Skype.

poc

Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling?
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Re: alternative to skype

[JD]

On 03/18/2018 10:32 AM, fred roller wrote:

> Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling?
AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so no 
phone.  In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if you can get 
it will do what I suspect you want; your account to a non-account call.


-- Fred


I don't understand the last part: your account to a non-account call.
What is a non-account call
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Re: alternative to skype

[JD]

On 03/18/2018 11:46 AM, fred roller wrote:
you have g-voice they do not.  similar to skype acct to acct or acct 
to other. I use g-voice for a voice mailbox because of its ability to 
transcribe to text and send to my phone.  I do know that you can call 
any phone number but usually by charging the account w/ $$.


On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:40 PM, JD <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:




On 03/18/2018 10:32 AM, fred roller wrote:

> Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number
calling?
AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so
no phone.  In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if
you can get it will do what I suspect you want; your account
to a non-account call.

-- Fred

I don't understand the last part: your account to a non-account call.
What is a non-account call


well, that's just like skype.
I do not know googl'es per minute charges to non-account phone numbers,
vs. phone numbers associated with a google account.
Are the rates published online?
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Re: alternative to skype

[JD]

On 03/18/2018 02:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/19/18 04:20, JD wrote:

On 03/18/2018 11:46 AM, fred roller wrote:

you have g-voice they do not.  similar to skype acct to acct or acct to other. I
use g-voice for a voice mailbox because of its ability to transcribe to text and
send to my phone.  I do know that you can call any phone number but usually by
charging the account w/ $$.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:40 PM, JD mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>>
wrote:



 On 03/18/2018 10:32 AM, fred roller wrote:

 > Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number
 calling?
 AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so
 no phone.  In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if
 you can get it will do what I suspect you want; your account
 to a non-account call.

 -- Fred

 I don't understand the last part: your account to a non-account call.
 What is a non-account call


well, that's just like skype.
I do not know googl'es per minute charges to non-account phone numbers,
vs. phone numbers associated with a google account.
Are the rates published online?

http://bit.ly/2FQletP   ?

Great and reasonable rate charges.
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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

[JD]

On 03/26/2018 06:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

This command exits the chrome process tree gracefully, in all window 
managers:


  pkill --oldest chrome

but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole 
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) 
I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the 
problem.  Chrome has its own task manager:


  SHIFT ESC

but you can't kill a window with all its tabs from there.

Using:

  ps aux | grep "beta\/chrome"

seems to indicate individual tabs?

Using:

  xprop _NET_WM_PID

and clicking on the different windows always give the same id.

I wrote the script below using wmctrl and xkill to allow me to kill 
the Chrome windows in reverse order of creation but killing the first 
Chrome window kills all Chrome windows.  The xkill man page says the 
"program is very dangerous" and:


  -id resource

This option specifies the X identifier for the resource whose creator 
is to be aborted.


- so it looks like aborting "creator" gets rid of everything.

Any suggestions about fixing my script to selectively kill single 
Chrome windows?


Thanks,

Phil.


#!/bin/bash

wins=`wmctrl -l | sort -r`
IFS=$'\n' # bash 4
readarray -t winsarr <<< "$wins"

for win in "${winsarr[@]}"
do
IFS=' ' read id junk1 junk2 name <<< $win
echo "$id  $name"
echo -n "Kill?: "
read junk
if [ "$junk" == "Y" ]; then
xkill -frame -id "$id"
fi
done


You cannot kill specific windows of an app using general purpose CLI 
commands.
You need a command that talks directly to chrome and, for example, ask 
it for

the window id's of all of it's windows.
And the you might tell chrome to kill some specific set of window id's.
So, it all has to be under the direct control of chrome main process.
I am not sure that such an interface exists. If enought people scream
at google for such an interface, then google /might/ provide such a cli.
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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

[JD]

On 03/26/2018 07:53 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Samuel,


On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is
Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or
window is the problem.  Chrome has its own task manager:


If you run top, which process is using the CPU?  Just kill that one,
then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad
face on it.



That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab
seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole
window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the
problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I
previously had open again . .

P.

Phil,
How about using the trial and error method.
Kill one window (press the X on the right hand upper corner :)  )
and then check the cpu load in a full screen cli window.
if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window.
so try this with each window and check the cpu load.
The one that brings the load down (after killing it :) )
is the culprit.
While u r  at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage
can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u  r a small ram. But if 
you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have 
at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM 
as SWAP on HD.

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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

[JD]

On 03/27/2018 07:03 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 03/27/2018 04:27 PM, JD wrote:



if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window.
so try this with each window and check the cpu load.




While u r  at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage
can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u  r a small ram. But if
you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have
at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM
as SWAP on HD.

Is it possible that while "u r @ it", you could try typing out the words
instead of using inane social media jargon? This is a mailing list, not
a bloody Twitter feed. I can feel my IQ drop when I see such a posting.

(Sorry, but someone has to say it!)

I think you are way way too stressed out.
I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist.
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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

[JD]

On 03/27/2018 07:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/27/2018 06:18 PM, JD wrote:

I think you are way way too stressed out.
I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist.


He wasn't the only one thinking it, though.  I was considering making 
the same comment.

__

Har :):):);)
Knock yerselves out
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Re: easiest way to encrypt existing home dir?

[JD]

Thanks!
Will try it on a temporary dir first.



On 03/30/2018 07:53 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 02:41:53 +0200
Wolfgang Pfeiffer  wrote:


Interested in how to do it?

I got an email off-list to post the instructions. Again: I created the
container around ten years ago. Did it on Debian. But used that approach
for years once I created this container.

Here we go (Read the notes at the end, please):

--->
Making an ecrypted file container:

$ nice -+19 /usr/bin/dcfldd bs=1M count=6000 statusinterval=10 if=/dev/urandom 
of=/home//encrypt.ctr

# losetup /dev/loop0 /home//encrypt.ctr
# cryptsetup --verbose --verify-passphrase --cipher aes-xts-benbi  --key-size 
512 luksFormat /dev/loop0
# cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop0 encfs
# /sbin/mkfs.ext3 -j -O dir_index,filetype,sparse_super /dev/mapper/encfs
# chown : /home//enc
# chmod 0700 /home//enc


added to fstab this line
/dev/mapper/encfs  /home//enc  ext3 
user,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid   0 0

Backup before:
# cp /etc/fstab~ /etc/fstab.2008.12.21
`/etc/fstab~' -> `/etc/fstab.2008.12.21'


mount:
# losetup /dev/loop0 /home//encrypt.ctr
# cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop0 encfs
as :
$ mount enc/


umount:
$ umount enc/
# cryptsetup luksClose encfs
# losetup -d /dev/loop0
<-

A few short notes (it's late, I want some sleep ..)

0:
   the stuff after the 'mount'/'umount' lines is what I did to
   activate/deactivate the container after logging in.

1:
   "--cipher aes-xts-benbi" - I'd change that to a cipher you want. I
   think aes-xts-benbi is oldand not be what you want today 

2:
$ nice -+19 /usr/bin/dcfldd bs=1M count=6000 statusinterval=10 if=/dev/urandom 
of=/home//encrypt.ctr

  "bs=1M count=6000" : should create a container size of 6000Mb ..

3:
IIRC:
   '#' from above: done as root; '$' done as 

4:
   In your /home dir I think you should do this - probably wasn't created
   automatically via fstab:
   mkdir enc
   so /home//enc is simply the mount point for your
   encrypted container, IIRC ...

I got these instructions from somewhere on the internets. Not my
work, IIRC. Just tried and probably modified it. And successfully.

Good luck, all!
Wolfgang

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html to man page

[JD]

Hi all,
I have an app that has no manpage, but has about 170 html files,
all of which index into a subset of the 168 files.

I would like to use an app that will produce a single manpage like
text file.

Is there an app that can do this?

I saw a few apps on google search, but none of them are producing what I 
want.


Thanx.
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Re: html to man page

[JD]

On 04/05/2018 08:29 AM, Tim via users wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 4 April 2018, Sam Varshavchik sent:

I find Docbook XML to be irreplacable, when it comes to writing
technical documentation that serves as a single source of both manual
pages and publishable HTML.

I'm pretty sure I've looked at Docbook, though could have been another
thing.  But what I found when using *some* form of intermediate
language, that the conversions to other forms were not optimal.

I might write a page with headings and subheadings, properly in
sequence, and text between.

Like:

Pancakes

   

Ingredients

  
Flour
Milk
etc...
  

   

   

 Method

And so on, and so forth...

Only to find out the translation has lost the context, converting plain
headings into stylised generic headings all of the same hierarchy.  Or
that straight-forward attributes (name="something") get butchered into
garbage (name="g12").

Or that your two languages have no overlap in being able to do the same
thing, albeit using different methods, and content gets butchered into
inappropriate simulations of what you were trying to do.


Thanks for the heads up!!
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Re: How to switch to mate?

[JD]

At the login screen, first choose the login name
then before you type the password, click on the small
wheel in the login banner and it will drop down a menu
of DT's to choose from.
Choose Mate, then type your password and you are done.


On 04/17/2018 11:42 AM, Beartooth wrote:

If this isn't the right list, please redirect me!

I have a PC running F27, with mate and xfce both installed; at
present, what I see is xfce. How do I change to mate??


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Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

[JD]

I have not seen this before, so I do not know what might be causing this.
All tasks are quiescent, except that I am watching a youtube video.
So I stopped the YT video and waited to see if the activity of Caja
would abate. NOP!!! It stays at 92 to 98 %
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Re: Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

[JD]

iotop shows it to consume that much i/o bandwidth.

I had no idea tha Caja would be doing this, and what's
more is that all it's i/o was to/from the boot disk.

About 30 minutes after I sent the email, it's i/o load
wen down back to near zero.


On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 9:41 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 04/29/2018 11:36 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> I have not seen this before, so I do not know what might be causing this.
>> All tasks are quiescent, except that I am watching a youtube video.
>> So I stopped the YT video and waited to see if the activity of Caja
>> would abate. NOP!!! It stays at 92 to 98 %
>>
>
> How do you know that it's doing this?
>
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Re: Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

[JD]

top shows cpu load, and not i/o load. Usually processes
that are i/o bound consume less cpu time, due to having
to wait for the completion of each i/o operation.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Fred Smith 
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:36:08PM -0600, JD wrote:
> > I have not seen this before, so I do not know what might be causing this.
> > All tasks are quiescent, except that I am watching a youtube video.
> > So I stopped the YT video and waited to see if the activity of Caja
> > would abate. NOP!!! It stays at 92 to 98 %
>
> did you look at top (or use ps) to see if there is a runaway caja
> in the background consuming resources?
>
> not that I find caja does that, but have seen it happen with one
> odd program or another on rare occasion.
>
> Not  necessarilyy in Mate.
>
> --
>  Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
> -
>   "For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before
> his
>  glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our
> Savior
>  be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
> before
>  all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."
> - Jude 1:24,25 (niv)
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Re: Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

[JD]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Allegedly, on or about 30 April 2018, JD sent:
> > I had no idea tha Caja would be doing this, and what's
> > more is that all it's i/o was to/from the boot disk.
> >
> > About 30 minutes after I sent the email, it's i/o load
> > wen down back to near zero.
>
> Perhaps a thumbnailer plug-in trawling through large files trying to
> build up preview icons for the files?
>

​Perhaps ...
but I wish I knew how to trap what's triggering it!!!
​
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Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

[JD]

  276 be/3 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8]

When I booted, drive was clean!!

All my current running processes (i.e. ones I started), are quiescent.

Whith glitches like these, it makes a LOT more difficult to honetsly tell
students why they should switch to Fedora, "because it is better".
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Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

[JD]

On 05/09/2018 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 05/09/2018 10:58 AM, JD wrote:

276 be/3 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8]

What command produces this output?

It comes from iotop.


   From just that line, it looks like
there is no data transferred at all.  I've never understood what 100% of
I/O bandwidth means.  How is the maximum calculated?  Or does it mean
that out of all the data transferred, 100% came from this process?

That's not what it means. The first percentage is how much of that
task's execution time it spent being swapped in and out (0.00%). The
second is how much of its execution time it spent waiting on I/O to
complete (99.85% in this case).

Here it indicates someone is flogging an ext4 filesystem fairly hard (an
indexer walking a directory tree, something logging, etc.). That also
indicates he has 7 partitions using ext4 filesystems, but doesn't say
which one is getting flogged. That's why I suggested an "iostat -p ALL
2" to identify the active device, followed by an "lsof" to see what
processes have that device open to hunt the culprit down.

OK - Thanx!. Will try that next time it gets going again.
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Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

[JD]

On 05/09/2018 06:08 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:55:03 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:


Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on
I/O for some reason.

If it is a brand new just formatted ext4 system mounted for the
first time, the system writes all the initial journal data
structures (or something like that) as soon as it is
mounted. Once it finishes, it never has to do it again.

Hi Tom,
there are 4 partitions on /dev/sda.
sda1 and sda2 are for ms windoze (one of them contains recovery tools).
sda3 is the fedora boot partition, and sda4 is the fedora swap.
The installation has been working find for well over a year.
So, this is not a recent installation.
But, the i/o load is indeed rather recent.
It makes watching YT a very annoying experience of stop and go video.
But after the jbod task finishes, I can watch YT without the stop and go 
annoyance.

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Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

[JD]

On 05/09/2018 06:24 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/09/2018 04:55 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 05/09/2018 04:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

From just that line, it looks like
there is no data transferred at all.  I've never understood what 100% of
I/O bandwidth means.  How is the maximum calculated?  Or does it mean
that out of all the data transferred, 100% came from this process?

That's not what it means. The first percentage is how much of that
task's execution time it spent being swapped in and out (0.00%). The
second is how much of its execution time it spent waiting on I/O to
complete (99.85% in this case).

Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on
I/O for some reason.

Correct, and it's waiting because something is writing to the disk
and blocking its ability to update the journal. Not completely blocking
it as it spent 0.15% of its time doing something, uhm, "useful" during
that sample. It's not even clear that there's an issue since I'd expect
stuff like that to occur sporadically during times of heavy I/O. It's
also common if you've just formatted an ext4 filesystem as it does,
essentially, a "quick" format first, and slowly initializes the rest of
the partition over some period of time. The idea is to make the
filesystem usable quickly and get the housekeeping done in its spare
time.

Assuming this isn't a fresh "mke2fs -t ext4" on the partition, I'd still
try to find what's beating on that partition before messing around with
anything drastic like changing the journal commit timing. The jdb2 thing
in iotop (if it happens a LOT) indicates there's something weird going
on--but it is NOT the cause of the problem. Don't shoot the messenger!


Yes. As I replied earlier, next time it happens, I will post the output
of iostat and lsof
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Unable to lower cpu frequency

[JD]

# /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -g performance 2G
# /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-info | grep "current CPU frequency is"
  current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
  current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Cpu can accept frquencies as low as 800MHz.

So, does anyone have a more magical incantation to force the 2 cores
to run at 2.0 GHz?
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Re: Unable to lower cpu frequency

[JD]

You hit the nail on the head.
I found that the command line I was using contained the word performance.
Now, I am doing:
/bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -u 2.00G

and cpu-info  is showing:
current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
for both cpus.

This was necessary because of running ffmpeg alongside with
playing videos cause HW errors.
Even thought the kernel throttled the cpu, it did not help much.

Now, I do not get the HW errors and kernel ooops messages.


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:00 AM, stan  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:59:53 -0600
> JD  wrote:
>
> > # /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -g performance 2G
> > # /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-info | grep "current CPU
> > frequency is" current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to
> > hardware). current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to
> > hardware).
> >
> > Cpu can accept frquencies as low as 800MHz.
> >
> > So, does anyone have a more magical incantation to force the 2 cores
> > to run at 2.0 GHz?
>
> You could try adding --max?  I'm not sure what the default is, might be
> --min.
>
> When governor is set to performance, the CPU runs full out all the time.
> It is possible to change the governor on a running system, but I'm not
> sure how.  You could change it to one of the below other than
> performance, if it has been compiled into the kernel.  As you can see,
> I have only the ondemand governor in my kernel.
>
> These are the settings for my CPU, from boot/config-[]
> # DEVFREQ Governors
> CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_SIMPLE_ONDEMAND=y
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_USERSPACE is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_PASSIVE is not set
>
>
> Also, IIRC, the setting of CPU frequency is usually done directly in the
> BIOS / firmware.  In the kernel docs they say that some CPUs can't be
> set from the kernel (but don't give a list).  i.e. the BIOS would be
> your only option if you have one of those, and it sounds like you
> might.
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Question about Mate DT

[JD]

Hi All,
I am having problems with mate DT.
If I leave the machine idle for a minute or two, (even with several 
windows of TB and FF open),

I end up losing the DT altogether. All Desktop icons and panels disappear.
Furthermore, even if I do not leave the machine idle (i.e. I am busy on 
the KB),
then if I decide to suspend to disk, and later on, turn on the machine 
and resume,

I have no DT, as if I had left the machine idle for a minute or two.
Is this caused by a setting? Which one?

Thanx!!!
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Re: Question about Mate DT

[JD]

On 06/07/2018 10:27 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 06/07/2018 03:51 PM, JD wrote:

I am having problems with mate DT.
If I leave the machine idle for a minute or two, (even with several 
windows of TB and FF open),
I end up losing the DT altogether. All Desktop icons and panels 
disappear.
Furthermore, even if I do not leave the machine idle (i.e. I am busy 
on the KB),
then if I decide to suspend to disk, and later on, turn on the 
machine and resume,

I have no DT, as if I had left the machine idle for a minute or two.
Is this caused by a setting? Which one?


Do the windows still function?  Can you move them around?  It sound 
like the window manager is crashing.  Have you checked the journal for 
any information like that?

All windows also disappear! :(
This is the first time I have seen this behaviour!!
So, I finally decided to disable all screen saver functions
by unchecking them in
System -> Preferences -> Look and feel -> Screen Saver

Thanx!!!
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cpupower

[JD]

Manpage of cpu power make no mention of the
selection of governor.
How can set the governor to be the user mode governor
instead of the performance governor and not the ondemand governor?

If I can permanently set that governor, next I want to
set the cpu frequency (for all cores) to 2134000Hz permanently.

Reason I am posting this is because the normal speed of the cores
is 2.8GHz, and that is causing numerous kerneloops interrupts (overheating).
Fans are at full speed all the time, as I can hear them :) :)

When I set the speed manually (as root) like this:
for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; do
echo2134000  > cpu$i/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
done

then kerneloops are greatly reduced.
Every kerneloops is accompanied by mce:
So, it has to be the heat.

But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
I want to have set once and for all!!!

Thanx!!!
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Re: cpupower

[JD]

On 06/24/2018 11:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 10:27 AM, JD wrote:


But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
I want to have set once and for all!!!


There's probably a proper way to do that, but until somebody finds it, 
put that into a shell script and call it from rc.local.


So far, the ways I have found on google search have not survived
a reboot :(
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Re: cpupower

[JD]

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 06/24/2018 10:55 AM, JD wrote:
>
>>
>> On 06/24/2018 11:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/24/2018 10:27 AM, JD wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
>>>> I want to have set once and for all!!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's probably a proper way to do that, but until somebody finds it,
>>> put that into a shell script and call it from rc.local.
>>>
>>
>> So far, the ways I have found on google search have not survived
>> a reboot :(
>>
>
> That's why you use rc.local.  It's a shell script called at the end of
> boot that you can use for any special or non-standard stuff you want or
> need done.
> ___
>

​I have enabled rc-local:
sudo systemctl enable rc-local
which is supposed to automagically execute /etc/rc.d/rc.local during bootup,
but for some strange reason, rc.local is not being automagcally executed,
even though (as I explained already, it is an executable shell script with
execute permissions set.

I have to run it by hand.
​
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Re: cpupower

[JD]

On 06/24/2018 04:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/25/18 05:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2018-06-24 at 11:25 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 10:55 AM, JD wrote:

On 06/24/2018 11:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 10:27 AM, JD wrote:

But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
I want to have set once and for all!!!

There's probably a proper way to do that, but until somebody finds it,
put that into a shell script and call it from rc.local.

So far, the ways I have found on google search have not survived
a reboot :(

That's why you use rc.local.  It's a shell script called at the end of
boot that you can use for any special or non-standard stuff you want or
need done.

Note that you now have to explicitly enable rc.local to make it run at
boot time:

# systemctl enable rc-local.service

Who told you that?  It is a "static" service and need not be enabled.

Before creation of an executable /etc/rc.d/rc.local file

[egreshko@f28k-b1 ~]$ systemctl status rc-local.service
● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; static; vendor 
preset:
disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
  Docs: man:systemd-rc-local-generator(8)

After creation and rebooting without enabling.

● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; enabled-runtime; 
vendor
preset: disabled)
Active: active (exited) since Mon 2018-06-25 06:32:27 CST; 1min 30s ago
  Docs: man:systemd-rc-local-generator(8)
   Process: 652 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/rc.local start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)

Jun 25 06:32:27 f28k-b1.greshko.com systemd[1]: Starting /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Compatibility...
Jun 25 06:32:27 f28k-b1.greshko.com systemd[1]: Started /etc/rc.d/rc.local 
Compatibility.


Well, this is interesting:

# systemctl -l start rc-local
# echo $?
0
#
# systemctl -l status rc-local.service
rc-local.service - /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; enabled)
   Active: active (exited) (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2018-06-24 
22:49:49 Boise; 32s ago
  Process: 17623 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/rc.local start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)

 Main PID: 17637 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)

Jun 24 22:49:49 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility.
Jun 24 22:49:50 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: rc-local.service: main 
process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE


So, is there a way to get more detailed info on what caused the failure??

Thanx!










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Re: cpupower

[JD]

On 06/24/2018 04:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 03:12 PM, JD wrote:

​I have enabled rc-local:
sudo systemctl enable rc-local
which is supposed to automagically execute /etc/rc.d/rc.local during 
bootup,
but for some strange reason, rc.local is not being automagcally 
executed,
even though (as I explained already, it is an executable shell script 
with

execute permissions set.

I have to run it by hand.


Strange.  Try putting echo statements in, with output directed to a 
file in /root that will tell you that each command has run or not.
Well, rc-local.service cannot be instrumented with echoes from the 
shell, which is run

with option -x in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

None of those commands are failing.
Please see my reply to Ed Geshko.
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Re: Time -

[JD]

Bob!!!
There are MANY ways to do this on a computer.

One such simple way is first convert the duration you are thinking of
to seconds, then issue this command to your shell

sleep xx   # where xx is the number of seconds
aplay  



On 08/28/2018 11:36 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
In the past if I wanted to time a process in the darkroom or the 
kitchen I had a wind up timer, twist the dial to 27 minutes or 
whatever I wanted and a bell would ring when that time had elapsed. 
Certainly by today a Fedora computer should be able to do that basic 
task forme.


I would be happy typing a line inxterm that would run aplay some.wav 
at the end of the period. Can anyone tell me how to do that?


Until recently I have used xfce4-timer but that has never been as 
convenient as I would like and recently I have had problems with it.


Any suggestions will be appreciated,

Bob


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Re: OT: fastest way to copy one drive to another

[JD]

On 09/07/2018 03:34 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 7 Sep 2018 at 15:54, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

Date sent:  Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:54:59 -0500
From:   Ranjan Maitra 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject:Re: OT: fastest way to copy one drive to another
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 16:37:49 -0400 Tony Nelson  
wrote:


On 18-09-07 15:48:23, jdow wrote:


dd if=/dev/ of=/dev/ bs=1073741824
conv=sparse,noerror & pid=$!

bs=1M


Btw, do the drives have to be unmounted? Just making sure.

Drives should not be mounted at time, or changes could be made during the
copying process.

The line for the cloning process in my g4l is like this.
dd bs=1M if=$clonesource 2>/dev/null |jetcat-mod -f 5000 -p $clonesize
2>$progout |dd bs=1M of=$clonetarget 2>/dev/null &

Uses a dialog script to set the variables, and then runs the copy command in
background. The foreground script takes the data written to the progout file
and displays a progress bar via dialog.

Be very careful to make sure you copy the correct drive to the correct drive,
since if you get it wrong you loose it all.


Michael D. Setzer II,
What is the purpose of inserting the utility
jetcat-mod  between the 2 dd commands?

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Re: OT: fastest way to copy one drive to another

[JD]

Hello Cameron,
+1


On 09/08/2018 04:48 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 09Sep2018 06:45, Michael D. Setzer II  wrote:

On 8 Sep 2018 at 17:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

[...]

The link in the footer points to g4l, but nothing in your message
mentioning jetcat-mod makes that connection. Only an off-list message
from you explained it, and you then repeated the information on-list.


In my original message to the thread I specified that I had been the
maintainer of the g4l disk imaging project since 2004, and made some
comments. Later there was talk of using dd to do the copy, and I 
pulled the
one line from the 2000+ line script that specifically does the clone 
copy

process.

The entire project is on sourceforge with the source code. Project is
completely free, no paid options, no donations. Just an option that some
might find useful.

Wasn't trying to force it on anyone, and just sharing what I had seen 
over the

years.


As the one on the tar/cp side of this discussion, I'd like to support 
Michael here.


He did indeed say he was the g4l maintainer. And he was perfectly 
clear when he post his dd pipeline that it came from the g4l package. 
It isn't unreasonable at all that it uses a tool that is part of that 
same package.


There's any number of "progress reporting cat" type commands out 
there; I've got one of my own called prcat [1] (just a perl script 
accepting a commandline buffer size, no fancy threading or parallelism).


IMO there's little value in this bickering over an _example_ command 
line whose function is clear on inspection just because it has an odd 
but obviously equivalent to "cat" command in the middle. Particularly 
since nothing in this discussion is Fedora specific; it all applies to 
pretty much any Linux system and nearly applies to any UNIX system in 
general (such as the Mac I'm typing this on). Can we please go back to 
_technical_ discussion instead of this?


To satisfy the "no link to the code" people:
[1] https://bitbucket.org/cameron_simpson/css/src/tip/bin/prcat

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting
frequent messages like
. File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros

So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up
I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress.

In the past, I never had this issue, and I have seen many
of my dvd's and CD's get damaged when inserted into friend's
home entertainment centers, and had to rebuild them from HD backup.

Any clues how to prevent this message coming from dd ?

Thanx
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[OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

Hi Todd and Margo,
I have not been able to use k3b because it did not
make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error.

Are you saying that it has been fixed

Thanx!!

JD

On 09/10/2018 08:27 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 09/10/2018 05:53 PM, JD wrote:

Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting
frequent messages like
. File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros

So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up
I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress.

In the past, I never had this issue, and I have seen many
of my dvd's and CD's get damaged when inserted into friend's
home entertainment centers, and had to rebuild them from HD backup.

Any clues how to prevent this message coming from dd ?

Thanx


JD,

"dd" does not work on DVD's.  Use K3b instead:

 # dnf install k3b

k3b also lets you do a check after you burn your DVD.
Keeps the "coasters" to a mind roar.  You always
know when you have a good burn.

Also, consider using a flash drive.  Much faster
and easier to use than a DVD.

HTH,
-T
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/10/2018 08:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/11/18 8:53 AM, JD wrote:

Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting
frequent messages like
. File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros

So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up
I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress.

In the past, I never had this issue, and I have seen many
of my dvd's and CD's get damaged when inserted into friend's
home entertainment centers, and had to rebuild them from HD backup.

Any clues how to prevent this message coming from dd ?

Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"?  I only ask since I've not 
seen
the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar".

My bad!!! I had multiple tar instances running.
And you are right. dd was in another window,
and somehow it stuck in my mind when I started
to type my message.
Yes, it IS tar.
The DVD is mounted as
/run/media/jd/MODERN_DESIGN_CONCEPTS
and I was taring it out by the commands
cd /run/media/jd/MODERN_DESIGN_CONCEPTS/VIDEO_TS
tar cf - . | tar -C /sdc5/backups/dvd/MODERN_DESIGN_CONCEPTS -xpvf -
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/11/2018 04:04 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote:
 ...

"dd" does not work on DVD's.  Use K3b instead:


dd is fine for /reading/ DVDs.  Something more (K3b or wodim or
growisofs) is needed to /write/ them.


Yes. Wodim works just fine.
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/11/2018 04:14 AM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:19:44AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"?  I only ask since I've not 
seen
the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar".

To expand on that:


 $ strings `which dd` | grep shrank

 $ strings `which tar` | grep shrank
 %s: File shrank by %s bytes; padding with zeros
 ...


and presumably the warning means that between stat()ing the file and
opening it and reading its contents, the size of the file got smaller.

So I think the OP is doing more than just 'dd'ing the raw DVD.

Sorry, I did respond and explained my mistake
to another responder that it was my bad.
I was TARing and I explained the commands I used.





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Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/11/2018 05:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote:

I have not been able to use k3b because it did not
make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error.

Are you saying that it has been fixed

It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading or writing 
a DVD.

That said, in another message you indicated that "Wodim works just fine".  
Well, when
it comes to k3b, it uses (at least on my system) wodim as its method
for cdrecord.  Check the settings in your k3b to verify what it is configured 
to use.

I've not had any issues with k3b in the past.  I think I no longer have a 
commercial
DVD to test as I stopped using those a few years ago.

This is the problem of responding to some responders that bring in
the use of some utils to do something other than what I had tried
to report. A responder brought up the names of those utils, and I
merely ascented that they do work. I should have alsos stated that
it was not what I was trying to do.
I  did state in my correction of my original post that I was tarring
from the directory on which the dvd was mounted to a hard drive
dir - and that the error message (if it really were an error) was indeed
from tar.
So, I was seeking to see if anyone knew how to prevent the condition
that ejected that error message.
Unfortunately, I have not seen anyone posting a panacea for it.
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Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/11/2018 05:55 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 12Sep2018 07:13, Ed Greshko  wrote:

On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote:

I have not been able to use k3b because it did not
make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error.

Are you saying that it has been fixed


It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading 
or writing a DVD.


If it is libdvdcss related then he wants to read a video DVD.

Also, IIRC, several of the DVD reading libraries use libdvdcss in an 
opportunistic manner, meaning they're silent if it isn't present. JD, 
haveyou tried simply making sure libdvdcss is installed? You error 
message might be a side effect of the library being missing.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


Thank you Cameron.
Yes it is indeed installed.
To wit:
$ ll /usr/lib64/libdvd*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 18 Jan 29  2017 /usr/lib64/libdvdcss.so
albeit, it is of a slightly older vintage.
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that 
reading a CSS DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding 
produced read issues, not just garbled data. This might be that.


Ah, here we go. In the tar-1.30 source, src/create.c, around line 
1104. The "shrank...padding" message happens if tar gets a short read 
(not an I/O error).


So I think the VOB file read is very short. See if other tools can 
read that file, since it is a mounted drive.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 

I tried that, and it is clear that tar is unable to read the drive. To wit:

$ ls -l  VTS_10_1.VOB
-r--------. 1 jd jd 1073739776 Mar 18  2013 VTS_10_1.VOB
$ cat VTS_10_1.VOB | wc -c
cat: /run/media/jd/JACK_REACHER/VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_1.VOB: Input/output error
4067328
So, the output file was padded by zeros instead of the real McCoys!!!
In other words, dvdcss screwed up royally, and I cannot use the backup
as replacement if my DVD gets seriously damaged by a bad player drive.
Just wonderbar

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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/12/2018 05:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/13/18 7:40 AM, JD wrote:


On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson  wrote:

Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a CSS
DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding produced read issues, not
just garbled data. This might be that.

Ah, here we go. In the tar-1.30 source, src/create.c, around line 1104. The
"shrank...padding" message happens if tar gets a short read (not an I/O error).

So I think the VOB file read is very short. See if other tools can read that 
file,
since it is a mounted drive.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 

I tried that, and it is clear that tar is unable to read the drive. To wit:

$ ls -l  VTS_10_1.VOB
-r--------. 1 jd jd 1073739776 Mar 18  2013 VTS_10_1.VOB
$ cat VTS_10_1.VOB | wc -c
cat: /run/media/jd/JACK_REACHER/VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_1.VOB: Input/output error
4067328
So, the output file was padded by zeros instead of the real McCoys!!!
In other words, dvdcss screwed up royally, and I cannot use the backup
as replacement if my DVD gets seriously damaged by a bad player drive.
Just wonderbar


libdvdcss did not screw up at all.  "cat" is unaware of, and doesn't use, 
libdvdcss.

So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
back up the DVD???
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote:

So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
back up the DVD???

Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD".

I recall using it in the past, but can't find a DVD in my home to test.

Using k3b - and dmesg shows 51 messages like this one
[212014.458325] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 2443668

So, the dvd is bad?

But it plays flawlessly!!!
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On 09/12/2018 07:03 PM, JD wrote:


On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote:

So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
back up the DVD???

Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD".

I recall using it in the past, but can't find a DVD in my home to test.

Using k3b - and dmesg shows 51 messages like this one
[212014.458325] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 2443668

So, the dvd is bad?

But it plays flawlessly!!!


So far, k3b has only written 1251180544  bytes
and is unable to go past sector 610,928

So, I guess it is either css or physical damage.
But it is a brand new DVD, and I have not yet
taken it to my friend's place to watch together
on their huge 120 inch screen.


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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

[JD]

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote:
> > So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
> > What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
> > back up the DVD???
>
> Acquired a DVD for testing.  Verified, didn't explore, that there is a
> problem with
> k3b reading the DVD even with libdvdcss-1.4.2-1.fc28 installed.
>
> However, if you don't need the DVD duplicated and can live with the
> contents ripped
> to a video file you can simply use "HandBrake".  Seems I must have
> done something like that when I purged my home of DVDs a few years back.
>
> Anyway, I just used HandBrake to create a WINGSPAN.m4v from a DVD.  The
> DVD contains
> 2 videos and the HandBrake GUI's menu finds both and
> you can select which one to work on from a drop-down menu.  I put the
> movie on my NAS
> and accessed it from my TV over the network.  Also, I could,
> put the file on a USB drive and plug that into my TV.  No need for a DVD
> player.
>
> HandBrake is available in the rpmfusion-free repo and libdvdcss is in the
> rpmfusion-free-tainted repo
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Paul-McCartney-Wingspan-Intimate-
> Portrait/dp/B5QJHL   (was
> one of the DVD's a friend lent me)
>

Well, I have been looking for a version of HandBrake that will compile and
run on
one of my older linux machines (F20), to no avail.
n But I found a friend who had SW on aMS Wndows machine, and he wass able
to copy it and put it on a flash drive for me.

Thanx to all who replied.
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Where are the old repos of rpmfusion

[JD]

Fedora keeps old revisions of SW for EOL'ed releases.

Does rpmfusion have a link for these EOL'ed releases?

Thanx!!
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Re: Where are the old repos of rpmfusion

[JD]

On 09/15/2018 10:38 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 09:53 -0600, JD wrote:

Fedora keeps old revisions of SW for EOL'ed releases.

Does rpmfusion have a link for these EOL'ed releases?

http://archive.rpmfusion.org/

Found the link here: https://lisas.de/~adrian/?p=1321

Jonathan

Hi
I browsed it.
It is not browsable for some strange reason.
For example, I click in the page
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mm/publiclist/RPMFUSION%20free%20Fedora/28/x86_64/
and I get the same page, no matter on which release number I click.
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Re: Where are the old repos of rpmfusion

[JD]

On 09/15/2018 11:05 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 11:02 -0600, JD wrote:

On 09/15/2018 10:38 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 09:53 -0600, JD wrote:

Fedora keeps old revisions of SW for EOL'ed releases.

Does rpmfusion have a link for these EOL'ed releases?

http://archive.rpmfusion.org/

Found the link here: https://lisas.de/~adrian/?p=1321

Jonathan

Hi
I browsed it.
It is not browsable for some strange reason.
For example, I click in the page


https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mm/publiclist/RPMFUSION%20free%20Fedora/28/x86_64/

and I get the same page, no matter on which release number I click.

Perhaps it's the mirror you're getting.  Try:
http://mirror1.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archive.rpmfusion.org/

Jonathan

Thank you Jonathan.
That worked!!!
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Re: Markdown viewer

[JD]

On 09/24/2018 04:47 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 24Sep2018 12:32, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

I'm looking for a simple terminal-based viewer for Markdown files. I
*don't* want an editor. Think 'less', not 'emacs'. I don't mind if it
wants to pop up a window to show rich text, but it's not critical.

It seems remarkably* difficult to find such a beast.


I've been using mdv. For example, to check my Python module docstrings 
(which I do in Markdown) before release:


 distinfo cs.lex long_description|mdv -

"distinfo" is an alias associated with my release scripts, but the 
important thing here is that it empts the Markdown to stdout into "mkv".


Views nicely in a terminal.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


I found this at 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4140/markdown-viewer



I wrote a lightweight terminal markdown viewer in python, for CLI or as lib:

 * https://github.com/axiros/terminal_markdown_viewer


It supports e.g. tables, admonitions and tons of color themes.

Usage:
mdv [-t THEME] [-T C_THEME] [-x] [-l] [-L] [-c COLS] [-f FROM] [-m] 
[-M   DIR] [-H] [-A] [MDFILE]


Options:
MDFILE: Path to markdown file
-t THEME  : Key within the color ansi_table.json. 'random' accepted.
-T C_THEME: Theme for code highlight. If not set: Use THEME.
-l: Light background (not yet supported)
-L: Display links
-x: Do not try guess code lexer (guessing is a bit slow)
-f FROM   : Display FROM given substring of the file.
-m: Monitor file for changes and redisplay FROM given substring
-M DIR: Monitor directory for markdown file changes
-c COLS   : Fix columns to this (default: your terminal width)
-A: Strip all ansi (no colors then)
-H: Print html version
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Connecting a second monitor

[jd]

Dear All,
I am running FC12 with all the current updates (to the minute).

I connected an external LCD monitor to my laptop's vga port.

I clicked System -> Administration -> Display

I do not see anywhere how I can configure an external monitor
connected to the same graphics card (i.e. NOT dual head),
but with different resolution settings.
Interestingly, the second monitor is automatically
treated as a span of the built-in laptop monitor, 
which is not what I want.

How can I set it up as a duplicate display monitor.
Win XP seems to let me use it as a dup display, and
with different resolution. I would appreciate any help
that would let me use it as a dup rather than a span
of the main monitor.

Best regards,

JD

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Compilation error building kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12

[JD]

On x86 (32 bit) notebook:
After running make xconfig, and make all, I got this error:
.
.
.
.
  LD  drivers/video/console/built-in.o
  CC [M]  drivers/video/console/fbcon.o
drivers/video/console/fbcon.c:3537: error: expected declaration 
specifiers or '...' before string constant
drivers/video/console/fbcon.c:3537: error: expected declaration 
specifiers or '...' before 'quiet_logo'
drivers/video/console/fbcon.c:3537: warning: data definition has no type 
or storage class
drivers/video/console/fbcon.c:3537: warning: type defaults to 'int' in 
declaration of 'early_param'
drivers/video/console/fbcon.c:3537: warning: function declaration isn't 
a prototype

make[3]: *** [drivers/video/console/fbcon.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** [drivers/video/console] Error 2
make[1]: *** [drivers/video] Error 2
make: *** [drivers] Error 2

Please let me know what info you need to get to the bottom of this.

Regards,

JD

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Re: Another funny update?

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 01:13 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
>
> On 06/15/2010 10:24 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:22:21 -0500 Kevin Martin
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  
>>> On 06/15/2010 04:05 PM, David Boles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6/15/2010 4:35 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> On 06/15/2010 02:30 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to use kmod-nvidia(-PAE) and what I used to do was:
>>>>>> yum check-update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then if there was a kernel but no kmod update listed then I did an
>>>>>> update excluding the kernel -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Later in the day do it again and if the kmod is then available do a
>>>>>> complete update -
>>>>>> Is that so difficult?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also used to use akmod-nvidia and found after some trial and error
>>>>>> that there was no -PAE version whereas there was a -PAE version of
>>>>>> kmod-nvidia-PAE so one had to be a little careful about exactly which
>>>>>> package to use!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> Not so difficult, just seems like it should be unnecessary.  If there
>>>>> are dependencies in installed components that will be broken by an
>>>>> update then the update shouldn't be offered/shown by yum/packagekit
>>>>> until the an updated dependency is satisfied (that sounds odd to me but
>>>>> I hope you understand what I mean).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Fedora provides you, free of charge, a perfectly good, working,
>>>> operating system. And they maintain that system. As provided.
>>>>
>>>> You modified it by adding a package, or packages, from a non Fedora
>>>> site(s). Fedora provided improvements and bug fixes for the system that
>>>> they provide and maintain that 'broke' when you modified that system?
>>>>
>>>> You modified your system. So you should fix it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> This has nothing to do with "who broke what".  This has everything to do
>>> with attempting to make Fedora, and other Linux variants, mainstream
>>> enough for the common person to use.  Your attitude is why Microsoft,
>>> and to a lesser extent Apple, own the desktop...while Microsoft software
>>> and patches are by no means the end-all-be-all of stability, from an
>>> end-users point of view it's certainly more straight forward than what
>>> we're discussing here.  While I applaud Fedora's attempt to not include
>>> closed-source software components, it *does* allow for the availability
>>> of secondary repositories that *do* make closed-source drivers available
>>> (using the same install mechanism that is used to install "Fedora
>>> approved and included" packages) and there should be an effort made to
>>> make sure that the tool is smart enough to handle the dependencies
>>> system-wide.  If not, then take Apples approach and close the door on
>>> secondary repos and have complete control over what gets installed on a
>>> machine.  The fact of the matter is, it's a good thing that there are
>>> these secondary repos out there to provide much needed "other"
>>> software...if it weren't for those repos, frankly, Fedora would be even
>>> less widely used than it is today.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>> Just a minor point: Apple's os's work only on very specific h/w.
>> Besides, you paid for the privilege of having your h/w and s/w dictated.
>>
>> But why are we paying so much attention to the OP again?
>>
>> Ranjan
>>
>>  
> Yes, that's true.  And they control the software (which is apparently
> what the person I last responded to thinks Fedora does/should do since
> he's obviously against the use of software from non-Fedora controlled
> sites and/or the ab

Re: Adobe releases 32-bit Flash update for Linux

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 01:29 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> "Robert G. (Doc) Savage"  writes:
>
>> I can't imagine what has prompted Adobe to pack up their proverbial bat
>> &  ball and go home, abandoning 64-bit Flash development for all
>> platforms. I hope there's another explanation, because this is just
>> beyond dumb.
>>  
> I was reading an article about llvm, the new just-in-time-capable
> C-compiler and lo and behold they mentioned Adobe Flash as being one of
> the users of this on the Apple Mac target.  It appears LLVM bytecode
> gets converted to Flash "actioncode", which I assume is interpreted by
> an interpreter inside the flash executable.  Adobe seems to have built
> this Frankensteinein monster when most people simply want to play
> videos.  Surely we don't need a full-blown bytecode language to play
> videos???
>
> Giveen that they have been working on a 64-bit version of flash for over
> 2 years now and having only limited success, I'd wager that their
> actioncode and/or their interpreter itself is littered with address-size
> assumptions where they wantonly stuff addresses into ints and expect the
> process to be reversable.  (I've seen this in far too many "clever"
> programs.)  Adobe themselves admits that there are "architectural"
> issues preventing them from simply recompiling flash for a 64-bit
> target.
>
> -wolfgang
>
Right! It is this horribly inefficient monster that sucks 60 to 90 
percent of
my cpu every time I play a flash video online.
There has to be a better player of videos.
I hope someone comes up with a different way other than flash for 
playing video content within the browser - a way that will not be a cpu 
killer.

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Re: Fedora 12 - how to run laptop with closed lid

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 01:43 PM, Edmon Begoli wrote:

Hi,

I have a Dell Latitude 830 laptop with Fedora 12. I never move it,
so I want to be able to close to lid and just use monitor, but my OS
shuts down automatically.

Is there a way to enable this and if so, please tell me how

I am using Xfce but I could switch to Gnome.

Thank you,
Edmon
   


CLick on system -> Preferences -> screensaver

From Screensaver window, click on Power Management (it's near the 
bottom to the right sight, but

left og the "close" button.

Now you will see a nother window which has in it the Action section.
"When laptop lid is closed"  select an action.
On my version of Fedora, I chose blank screen.
However, it "/might/" also end up blanking the external monitor as well.
What is missing from this set of actions is "Do nothing".

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F13 - Unable to update - package dependency conflicts

[JD]

The info below shows my problem.


$ sudo yum -y update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-i386
 
|  951 B 00:00
google-chrome   
 
|  951 B 00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates  

| 2.8 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates   
 
| 2.8 kB 00:00
skype   
   
| 1.2 kB 00:00
updates/metalink

|  15 kB 00:00
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package openssl.i686 0:1.0.0a-1.fc13 set to be updated
---> Package openssl-devel.i686 0:1.0.0a-1.fc13 set to be updated
---> Package openssl-perl.i686 0:1.0.0a-1.fc13 set to be updated
---> Package openssl-static.i686 0:1.0.0a-1.fc13 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: /lib/.libcrypto.so.1.0.0.hmac for package: 
1:libguestfs-1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
--> Processing Dependency: /usr/lib/.libssl.so.1.0.0.hmac for package: 
1:libguestfs-1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: 1:libguestfs-1.2.8-1.fc13.i686 (@updates)
Requires: /usr/lib/.libssl.so.1.0.0.hmac
Removing: openssl-1.0.0-4.fc13.i686 (@updates)
Available: openssl-1.0.0-1.fc13.i686 (fedora)
Error: Package: 1:libguestfs-1.2.8-1.fc13.i686 (@updates)
Requires: /lib/.libcrypto.so.1.0.0.hmac
Removing: openssl-1.0.0-4.fc13.i686 (@updates)
  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

$ rpm -e --test libguestfs-1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
error: Failed dependencies:
 libguestfs.so.0 is needed by (installed) 
libguestfs-java-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs.so.0 is needed by (installed) 
ocaml-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs.so.0 is needed by (installed) 
perl-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs.so.0 is needed by (installed) guestfish-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs.so.0 is needed by (installed) 
python-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs.so.0 is needed by (installed) 
ruby-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
libguestfs-java-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
ocaml-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
perl-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
guestfish-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
libguestfs-tools-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
libguestfs-java-devel-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
libguestfs-javadoc-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
libguestfs-devel-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
python-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
 libguestfs = 1:1.2.8-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) 
ruby-libguestfs-1:1.2.8-1.fc13.i686

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Re: KDE/Flash too fast weirdness

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 03:29 PM, Peter A wrote:
> Hi,
>
> so this one has me completely stomped...  After upgrading to F13 (though yum
> but I also tested with a clean F13 install, same behavior) every flash video
> (e.g. youtube) plays significantly faster than it should... A 45 second video
> plays in about 12 seconds without any sound at all.
>
> The weird thing is this happens only in KDE - in gnome there are no issues at
> all.
>
> 1) On normal login into KDE this happens immediately.
> 2) If I remove the temp files and caches (rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-loony/
> /var/cache/gdm/loony /tmp/*) then the problem doesn't happen on the first
> login. However, after a logout and log back in, the problem happens just as
> before.
> 3) Once the problem has occurred once, then only a reboot clears it. Removing
> the files mentioned in step 2 has no effect. Even switching to gnome at this
> time doesn't slow the video down again.
>
> I tried removing my .kde and a whole lot more. Even creating a new account and
> trying from that doesn't change anything.
>
> My HW config is a Dell Studio 17 (1747, with 1.73Ghz i7, 8GB) running a fully
> patched 64bit Fedora. I tried Flash plugins 10.0, 10.1 in 32bit and 10.0 pre-
> release 64bit without any differences. The graphics card is a ATI M96 
> (Mobility
> Radeon HD 4650) and I have no xorg.conf and only the standard keyboard
> settings in xorg.conf.d...
>
> Someone please tell me I'm not going crazy :)
>
> Peter.
>
>

Had a similar problem very early on - I fixed it by re-installing the latest
flash plugin from adobe.
I still do  not like the flash format because the flash plugin ends up
chewing 60 to 90 % of my cpu.


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Re: KDE/Flash too fast weirdness

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 07:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 June 2010, JD wrote:
>
>> On 06/16/2010 03:29 PM, Peter A wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> so this one has me completely stomped...  After upgrading to F13 (though
>>> yum but I also tested with a clean F13 install, same behavior) every
>>> flash video (e.g. youtube) plays significantly faster than it should...
>>> A 45 second video plays in about 12 seconds without any sound at all.
>>>
>>> The weird thing is this happens only in KDE - in gnome there are no
>>> issues at all.
>>>
>>> 1) On normal login into KDE this happens immediately.
>>> 2) If I remove the temp files and caches (rm -rf
>>> /var/tmp/kdecache-loony/ /var/cache/gdm/loony /tmp/*) then the problem
>>> doesn't happen on the first login. However, after a logout and log back
>>> in, the problem happens just as before.
>>> 3) Once the problem has occurred once, then only a reboot clears it.
>>> Removing the files mentioned in step 2 has no effect. Even switching to
>>> gnome at this time doesn't slow the video down again.
>>>
>>> I tried removing my .kde and a whole lot more. Even creating a new
>>> account and trying from that doesn't change anything.
>>>
>>> My HW config is a Dell Studio 17 (1747, with 1.73Ghz i7, 8GB) running a
>>> fully patched 64bit Fedora. I tried Flash plugins 10.0, 10.1 in 32bit
>>> and 10.0 pre- release 64bit without any differences. The graphics card
>>> is a ATI M96 (Mobility Radeon HD 4650) and I have no xorg.conf and only
>>> the standard keyboard settings in xorg.conf.d...
>>>
>>> Someone please tell me I'm not going crazy :)
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>> Had a similar problem very early on - I fixed it by re-installing the
>> latest flash plugin from adobe.
>> I still do  not like the flash format because the flash plugin ends up
>> chewing 60 to 90 % of my cpu.
>>
>>  
> Yeah, it works here, but its eating 40-60% of all 4 cores of a 2.1Ghz
> phenom.  Folks with lessor machines need not apply.
>
>
I am one of those folks!! Unicore Athlon64 3200+ (2.2GHz)
2GB Ram, 6GB swap. Some utube vids  eat up as much as 90% of cpu.
I really hope and pray that someone will come up with a different
and less cpu hogging solution to playing vid o=in the browser.
More than a year ago I had asked on the firefox user list if there
was any hardware assisted way to play these vids. Of course I was told
there was not. A few days ago I saw just such a blog about a hardware
device to which the flash stream is fed, and which in turn feeds the
the graphics. I have not seen any details or photos of the device.
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Re: KDE/Flash too fast weirdness

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 08:00 PM, jarmo wrote:
> Gene Heskett kirjoitti torstai, 17. kesäkuuta 2010 05:17:29:
>
>
>> Yeah, it works here, but its eating 40-60% of all 4 cores of a
>>  
> 2.1Ghz
>
>> phenom.  Folks with lessor machines need not apply.
>>  
> Are you sure, that it is flash. In my case it was nspluginwrapper.
> I removed that and now, where ever flash is needed, cpu-usage
> is quite reasonable.
>
> Jarmo
>

I do not have plugger and flash consumes 60-90% of cpu.

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Re: Lots of instabilities in F13 ?

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 10:27 PM, Brian Mury wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 10:31 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
>
>> I'm not having any issues with Firefox and don't use Evolution. My big
>> issue is with Rhythmbox, but it's a continuing issue from F12.
>> Sometimes, it just stops playing and requires a "killall" or force-quit
>> to shut it down.
>>  
> Does this happen with other audio apps as well, or just Rhythmbox?
>
> What soundcard are you using? Can you post the relevant portion of the
> output from "/sbin/lspci -v".
>
>
>
When it stop playing, how many tracks were in the play q?

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Re: how to download videos

[JD]

On 06/16/2010 11:38 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 21:22 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
>
>> that's correct, but if it possible to get /download that video from
>> the terminal? like by typing the URL containing the video or fetch
>> video id. or something like that and than downloading, though GUI
>> downloader plugin does that.
>>  
> If you can find the address of the media file that's actually played,
> rather than just the media player, you can download that with the wget
> command.  *Finding* out that information is the harder part.
>
> With the Flashblock Firefox plugin, you can copy the address of
> currently blocked Flash content, and paste that address into something
> else, such as the command line.  But what I've said previously still
> stands:  Sometimes you'll find the address for a directly playable Flash
> file, othertimes you'll end up with the address for the Flash player,
> and that player would normally have played the media in the webpage.
> But it won't do anything for you when you download it as a file.
>
>
I have been using "Video Downloadhelper"
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006/
for Firefox add-on which
has a pop-up menu, which has a choice to copy the
flash's url to the clipboard.
You can then paste that url to the  wget command.
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Re: Evolution reply header

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 06:08 AM, Tim wrote:
> kalinix was caught secretly using Windows to write:
>
>
>> Does anybody know how to change the header of a reply in Evolution (e.g.
>> "On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 00:11 -0400, Alex wrote:") with something more
>> funny?
>>
>> Google didn't return anything useful.
>>  
> You'd need to recompile, see:
>
> http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Can_I_change.2Fpersonalize_the_.22On_.3Cdate.3E.2C_.3Cperson.3E_wrote:.22_string_when_replying.3F
>
>

Well, how about Firefox? Would I have to recompile Firefox?
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Re: F13 - Unable to update - package dependency conflicts

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 06:52 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:03:07PM -0700, JD wrote:
>
>> The info below shows my problem.
>> 1:libguestfs-1.2.8-1.fc13.i686
>>  
> Grab the latest package which fixes this issue:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/libguestfs
>
> Rich.
>
>

Thank you Rich.
Slightly before the time your reply arrived, I just did another
normal yum update and it worked - apparently they
had not added the new libguestfs update to the 'updates'
repository when I had first attempted to do the update.
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Re: Fedora 13 usb key failure

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 08:04 AM, Jack Howarth wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 02:18:33PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>> O>  At that point, after the installer's vmlinux has been
>>  
>>> booted, the keystrokes on the usb keyboard are not
>>> recognized when attempting to select the installation
>>> media check options. This is quite odd because the
>>> same usb keyboard is usable earlier in the installation
>>>
>> Odd it may see but not unexpected. Until the kernel loads the BIOS is
>> doing emulation of a PC keyboard via USB. After the kernel USB loads the
>> OS takes over control. If that fails you have a problem.
>>
>>  
>>>Is there any workaround for this (as the Sun workstation
>>> only has usb ports for keyboard and mouse) short of
>>> waiting for Fedora 14?
>>>
>> I guess a serial or vnc based network install might be helpful for
>> debugging but hardly useful for production.
>>
>> Try booting with the option "irqpoll" just in case the USB stuff is
>> having interrupt problems.
>>  
> Unfortunately, neither irqpoll nor noapic eliminated the non-functional
> usb keyboard at the media check. I did notice that the F11 x86_64
> install seemed to randomly have issues with the keyboard as well in
> the media check but F13 is always failing. I am currently burning F12
> x86_64's install DVD to see if that works any better.
>Jack
> ps I have two identical Sun W2100Z with the latest 2.5 Phoenix firmware
> with F10 x86_64 installed and both behave the same way so a hardware
> failure is highly unlikely.
>
I am using usb-based wireless KB and Mouse.
They are both functional during bios, and after
F13 boot - single user, and multi-user.

JD
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Re: Evolution reply header

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 09:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 08:48 -0700, JD wrote:
>
>> On 06/17/2010 06:08 AM, Tim wrote:
>>  
>>> kalinix was caught secretly using Windows to write:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does anybody know how to change the header of a reply in Evolution (e.g.
>>>> "On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 00:11 -0400, Alex wrote:") with something more
>>>> funny?
>>>>
>>>> Google didn't return anything useful.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> You'd need to recompile, see:
>>>
>>> http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Can_I_change.2Fpersonalize_the_.22On_.3Cdate.3E.2C_.3Cperson.3E_wrote:.22_string_when_replying.3F
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Well, how about Firefox? Would I have to recompile Firefox?
>>  
> What does Firefox have to do with mail headers (even supposing the OPs
> question was actually about mail headers, which it wasn't)?
>
> poc
>
>

Huh???

The question is right there in the original message:

>>>  Does anybody know how to change the header of a reply in Evolution (e.g.


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Re: prefdm in runlevel 4 ?

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 03:27 AM, Frank Elsner wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'd like to have prefdm not only in runlevel 5 but also in runlevel 4.
>
> Changing file "/etc/init/prefdm.conf"
> from
>start on stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[5]
>stop on runlevel [!5]
>console output
>respawn
>respawn limit 10 120
>exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
>
> to
>start on stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[45]
>stop on runlevel [!45]
>console output
>respawn
>respawn limit 10 120
>exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
>
> didn't work.
>
> Any suggestions welcome to overcome my deficits on upstart.
>
>
> --Frank Elsner
>

I tried your mod on my machine (F13).
I was in RL 5, and ran the command
sudo init 4
and gnome desktop login banner
came up and I logged in.

Cheers,

JD



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Re: Evolution reply header

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 09:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 09:11 -0700, JD wrote:
>
>>> What does Firefox have to do with mail headers (even supposing the
>>>
>> OPs
>>  
>>> question was actually about mail headers, which it wasn't)?
>>>
>>> poc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Huh???
>>
>> The question is right there in the original message:
>>
>>  
>>>>>   Does anybody know how to change the header of a reply in
>>>>>
>> Evolution (e.g.
>>  
> So? I repeat, what has this got to do with Firefox? FF is a browser,
> Evolution is a mailer. Do you send mail with FF (other than via a
> webmail system)? That's a neat trick. How about browsing with Evolution?
>
> poc
>
>


Aaaah My bad!!!
I had meant to say Thunderbird :)
Sorry for that!!!

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Re: Fedora 13 usb key failure

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 09:37 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:56:44 -0700
> JD wrote:
>
>
>> I am using usb-based wireless KB and Mouse.
>> They are both functional during bios, and after
>> F13 boot - single user, and multi-user.
>>  
> That is usually a symptom of the bios not being
> set (or not even having the option) to emulate
> a ps/2 keyboard from the usb keyboard.
>
> I'm pretty sure grub does not have any usb support
> at all and relies on bios emulation.
>
> Once a linux kernel is booted, it does have
> usb drivers, so the keyboard can talk again.
>
> According to the wiki, grub2 does have a usb
> support module it can load, but the grub that
> normally ships with fedora is not (yet anyway)
> grub2.
>

Hi Tom,
perhaps you were addressing the other guy who was having problems.
I just wanted to report that I am not having problems at all,
BIOS, Grub menu, single user and multiuser all work just fine.

Another possibility for why it is not working for the originator
of this thread is the USB chipset. Having worked at some HW integration
companies that were using various chipsets from different manufacturers,
all USB chipsets do not behave the same way, and some require a rather
frequent HW poll that consumes quiet a bit of bus bandwidth.
Perhaps the originator of this thread is really experiencing a USB HW
issue.

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Re: bugzilla problem

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 10:09 AM, Eric Tanguy was caught red-handed while writing::
> Since fedora 13 i have a lot of problem using bugzilla with firefox. A
> lot of time the bugzilla.redhat site does not answer wheras if i use my
> laptop on the same network the site answer very quickly. If i want to
> post a bug or answer to a bug it hangs after processing and if i go back
> to the site my answer was not registered
> Someone have an idea ?
> Thanks
> Eric
>

You could try:
purging your cache
purging all your cookies.
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Re: Evolution reply header

[JD]

On 06/17/2010 10:01 AM, David Boles was caught red-handed while writing::
> On 6/17/2010 12:27 PM, JD wrote:
>
>>
>> On 06/17/2010 09:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>  
>>> On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 09:11 -0700, JD wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> What does Firefox have to do with mail headers (even supposing the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> OPs
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> question was actually about mail headers, which it wasn't)?
>>>>>
>>>>> poc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Huh???
>>>>
>>>> The question is right there in the original message:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>>>Does anybody know how to change the header of a reply in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Evolution (e.g.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>> So? I repeat, what has this got to do with Firefox? FF is a browser,
>>> Evolution is a mailer. Do you send mail with FF (other than via a
>>> webmail system)? That's a neat trick. How about browsing with Evolution?
>>>
>>> poc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Aaaah My bad!!!
>> I had meant to say Thunderbird :)
>> Sorry for that!!!
>>  
>
>
> For TB 3.0.4
>
> Edit>  Preferences>  Advanced>  Config Editor>  Search for 'reply'>
> edit as you wish
That Works!!! Thanks a lot David.

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bad HD sectors

[JD]

Greetings,
I have a 500GB hd which smarts daemon says has 1 re-mapped sector, and 
129 bad sectors.

How is it possible to have 129 bad sectors, but only 1 re-mapped sector?
Did the HD have only 1 spare sector when I purchased it?
Is that possible?
Drive was purchased brand new in factory sealed box.
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Re: Another funny update?

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 02:02 PM, Marcel Rieux was caught red-handed while writing::



On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Bruno Wolff III <mailto:br...@wolff.to>> wrote:


On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 22:02:49 -0400,
 Marcel Rieux mailto:m.z.ri...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>
> As I said, I don't believe rpmfusion, a repository not supported
by Red
> Hat/Fedora,  could block a kernel update.

They can using 'conflicts' in the spec file. 



What's this spec file? How do you use conflicts?

If the kmod is installed first,


How do I make "if" less iffy?

You'll have to explain this whole process. I'd be very surprised if a 
repository not belonging to Red Hat/Fedora could prevent a kernel 
upgrade or any upgrade. This could eb dangerous.


You can also set your system so that the default boot kernel
doesn't change
when there is a kernel update. This protects you from the kmod
being released
late problem at the cost of having to manually switch boot kernels
after
every kernel + kmod update.


If you remember the beginning of this discussion, we were talking 
about the problems the missing kmod could occcasion to newbies. 
I always check that the corresponding kmod is there and if I'd ever 
forget, it would be no problem reverting to the previous kernel. But a 
newbie might decide that "this thing doesn't work" and go back to Windows.


Your "solution" is not a solution for newbies.

Now, here's the upgrade suggestion I received today:

Package kernel.x86_64 0:2.6.32.14-127.fc12 set to be installed
---> Package kernel-firmware.noarch 0:2.6.32.14-127.fc12 set to be updated
---> Package kernel-headers.x86_64 0:2.6.32.14-127.fc12 set to be updated
---> Package kmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:195.36.24-1.fc12.3 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kmod-nvidia-2.6.32.14-127.fc12.x86_64 >= 
1:195.36.24-1.fc12.3 for package: 1:kmod-nvidia-195.36.24-1.fc12.3.x86_64


kernel x86_64 2.6.32.14-127.fc12 updates 21 M
kernel-firmware noarch 2.6.32.14-127.fc12 updates 973 k
kernel-headers x86_64 2.6.32.14-127.fc12 updates 754 k
kmod-nvidia x86_64 1:195.36.24-1.fc12.3 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates 31 k

It somehow doesn't seem to me like a standard upgrade...


Dependency processing is a normal part of the yum-updatesd daemon's 
activity.

I have seen it when I do manual yum update or when I invoke YumX.

Cheers,

JD
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Re: f13: Firefox wont start if the ~/.mozilla/ is a sym link

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 02:03 PM, Tom Horsley was caught red-handed while writing::
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:50:26 +0200
> Dario Lesca wrote:
>
>
>> It's a bug?
>>  
> They apparently claim it is a feature, not a bug.
> In fact, nothing in the path to ~/.mozilla can be
> a symlink, so something like /home as a symlink
> also doesn't work.
>
> I switched from a symlink to a "bind" mount to
> solve my problem with /home by putting this
> in my /etc/fstab:
>
> /zooty/home /home none rw,bind 0 0
>
> Now I still have /home as a subdir on a separate
> disk, but firefox doesn't get all upset about
> symlinks.
>

Hi,
On my F13, /home is a symlink to /sdb3/home
and it has not caused any problems with any mozilla product.
The only problems I DO have are with the Firefox add-ons;
do not know which one yet. I have simple removed all of them
to make the problem go away.

Cheers,

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Help with a printer

[JD]

I have been using the HP LaserJet 4L for many
years and it has been totally trouble free.
Recently, after an automatic update, the printer
prints garbage.
I have asked for help from openprinting in their
forum, and it seems this forum is not very active,
so no responses.
I have tried all of the PPD drivers that the printer
setup  gui provides for this printer. None of them
has helped. Printer does not have any problems
printing under windows xp, so that rules out printer
hardware issues.

The following print related packages are installed:
$ rpm -qa | egrep 'cups|foom|ijs|print'
bluez-cups-4.64-1.fc13.i686
cups-1.4.3-6.fc13.i686
cups-libs-1.4.3-6.fc13.i686
cups-pk-helper-0.0.4-13.fc13.i686
foomatic-4.0.4-10.fc13.i686
foomatic-db-4.0-14.20100204.fc13.noarch
foomatic-db-filesystem-4.0-14.20100204.fc13.noarch
foomatic-db-ppds-4.0-14.20100204.fc13.noarch
foomatic-filters-4.0.4-10.fc13.i686
fprintd-0.1-16.git04fd09cfa.fc13.i686
fprintd-pam-0.1-16.git04fd09cfa.fc13.i686
gdm-plugin-fingerprint-2.30.2-1.fc13.i686
ghostscript-cups-8.71-9.fc13.i686
gnome-python2-gnomeprint-2.30.0-2.fc13.i686
gutenprint-5.2.5-5.fc13.i686
gutenprint-foomatic-5.2.5-5.fc13.i686
hpijs-3.10.2-11.fc13.i686
kdeutils-printer-applet-4.4.4-1.fc13.i686
libfprint-0.1.0-15.pre2.fc13.i686
libgnomecups-0.2.3-7.fc12.i686
libgnomeprint22-2.18.7-1.fc13.i686
libgnomeprint22-devel-2.18.7-1.fc13.i686
libgnomeprintui22-2.18.5-1.fc13.i686
libgnomeprintui22-devel-2.18.5-1.fc13.i686
mfc9840cdwcupswrapper-1.0.3-1.i386
printer-filters-1.1-4.fc12.noarch
printoxx-1.8.1-3.fc12.i686
system-config-printer-1.2.2-4.fc13.i686
system-config-printer-kde-4.4.4-1.fc13.i686
system-config-printer-libs-1.2.2-4.fc13.i686
system-config-printer-udev-1.2.2-4.fc13.i686
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Re: Help with a printer

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 02:54 PM, Steve Searle was caught red-handed while writing::
> Around 10:01pm on Saturday, June 19, 2010 (UK time), JD scrawled:
>
>
>> I have been using the HP LaserJet 4L for many
>> years and it has been totally trouble free.
>> Recently, after an automatic update, the printer
>> prints garbage.
>>  
> Does it print short, fat horizontal lines?
>
No. It prints only one line of garbage, and parts
of the line are over-printed.


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Re: bad HD sectors

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 03:01 PM, Alan Cox was caught red-handed while writing::
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:43:19 -0700
> JD  wrote:
>
>
>> Greetings,
>> I have a 500GB hd which smarts daemon says has 1 re-mapped sector, and
>> 129 bad sectors.
>> How is it possible to have 129 bad sectors, but only 1 re-mapped sector?
>> Did the HD have only 1 spare sector when I purchased it?
>> Is that possible?
>> Drive was purchased brand new in factory sealed box.
>>  
> I expect the smart data is reporting sectors marked bad in testing and
> formatting up before it was sold. All media has some bad sectors that are
> never used.
>

That's very interesting. When I first had installed
the drive (1.9 years ago), on FC7, I did not have the
smarts daemon running. I only enabled it in FC10 I think
(I cannot recall when I actually turned it on).
I started seeing the problem right away when I had enabled
the smarts daemon.

Assuming what you say is the case, I guess I should ignore
the smarts report until the number of failed sectors rise higher than
129. It has been at 129 for as far as I can recall.

Cheers,

JD
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Re: Calculating the target of a symlink

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 07:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan was caught red-handed while 
writing::
> A script I'm writing needs to work out the target of a symbolic link,
> i.e. given:
>
> $ touch foo
> $ ln -s foo bar
>
> the function should print bar when given foo as a parameter. The manual
> says "ls -L" should do this, but it doesn't seem to work:
>
> $ touch foo
> $ ln -s foo bar
> $ ls -l foo bar
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 poc poc 3 Jun 19 21:32 bar ->  foo
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 poc poc 0 Jun 19 21:32 foo
> $ ls -L bar
> bar
>
> (should give foo)
>
> Have I misunderstood what "ls -L" does? Is there a bug? And is there a
> better way of doing this?
>
> poc
>
>
Here's one way your script can find what a symlink points to:

$ file /usr/src
/usr/src: symbolic link to `/sdb3/src'

or

$ ls -l /usr/src
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 May 30 17:18 /usr/src -> /sdb3/src/

For example you can
ls -l /usr/src | awk '{ print $NF }'
/sdb3/src/

Good luck.


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Re: bad HD sectors

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 03:01 PM, Alan Cox was caught red-handed while writing::
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:43:19 -0700
> JD  wrote:
>
>
>> Greetings,
>> I have a 500GB hd which smarts daemon says has 1 re-mapped sector, and
>> 129 bad sectors.
>> How is it possible to have 129 bad sectors, but only 1 re-mapped sector?
>> Did the HD have only 1 spare sector when I purchased it?
>> Is that possible?
>> Drive was purchased brand new in factory sealed box.
>>  
> I expect the smart data is reporting sectors marked bad in testing and
> formatting up before it was sold. All media has some bad sectors that are
> never used.
>

Is there a way to tell smart daemon to ignore the bad sector list
that comes from the manufacturer?
smartd keep reporting:
messages:Jun 19 16:16:39 localhost smartd[1378]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], 
128 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
messages:Jun 19 16:16:39 localhost smartd[1378]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], 
128 Offline uncorrectable sectors

yet I am not seeing any apps reporting read/write errors to this drive.

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Re: OT:burn - not install to usb

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 08:06 PM, Mick M. was caught red-handed while writing::
> Hi;
>I found a couple of 16MB usb sticks in a drawer.
> I have the latest systemrescuecd and want to "burn" it to the USB stick.
> An install needs>  512MB, this is only 16M.
>
> I tried using dd but it would not boot.
>
> To be clear I want the USB stick to act like a blank cd.
> Is this possible?
>
> thanks
>   Mick M.
>
>
> Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first.
>
> #  find / -name "*your base*" -exec chown us:us {} \;
>

You already state that the install needs 512MB of space, and
your usb stick is only a 16MB.
You cannot squeez 512MB into 16MB unless you have an ingenious
lossless compression scheme.

Now, if you mean to say you have 16GB usb sticks, then you are in luck.
There is a piece of software called liveusb-creator which can install
a live linux cdrom to a usb stick. See
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

Warning: I have used a usb stick, and it is even rated (by manufacturer)
to sustain 30MB/s read/write. Well, that turned out to be an exaggeration
to say the least.
Really, it is just not "use-able". Way too slow. You age 10 years til
you finish writing a medium size file.
On the other hand, if you can arrange for /tmp a and /var/tmp to be
ram-based pseudo disks, then you will get some usefulness out of it,
like browsing and web based email.
Any apps that need to store data to the flash will be slower than a slug,
and I do not mean to slight slugs :) They are good to my garden's soil,
but not to my plants.

Also, remember that flash drives have a limited number of times that
you write into any given location. Once exceeded, then you get very
likely data loss.

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Re: bad HD sectors

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 08:43 PM, Peter Langfelder was caught red-handed while 
writing::
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:57 PM, JD  wrote:
>
>
>> Is there a way to tell smart daemon to ignore the bad sector list
>> that comes from the manufacturer?
>> smartd keep reporting:
>> messages:Jun 19 16:16:39 localhost smartd[1378]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT],
>> 128 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
>> messages:Jun 19 16:16:39 localhost smartd[1378]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT],
>> 128 Offline uncorrectable sectors
>>
>> yet I am not seeing any apps reporting read/write errors to this drive.
>>  
> Hmm... I'd be surprised if smart didn't ignore the manufacturer's list
> of bad sectors. FWIW, I just had a drive develop bad sectors and I
> replaced it as soon as possible. It started with 1 but quickly spread
> and some of my data became unreadable. Applications will not find the
> bad sectors unless they read some data that are actually stored in the
> bad sectors, and even then they may not complain. You could run one of
> the disk test utilities to see where the bad sectors are. Or buy an
> external drive and rsync your whole drive to the external. You will
> see error messages if some of the data is unreadable.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Peter
>
Well, I am not actively using the disk. Too risky.
I am trying to find out if there is reasonable doubt
as to what the smartd is reporting as if the are recent
errors.
At this point I will try to see if it is still
under warranty and have it serviced.

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Re: bad HD sectors

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 09:56 PM, Peter Langfelder was caught red-handed while 
writing::
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:04 PM, JD  wrote:
>
>>  
>
>> Well, I am not actively using the disk. Too risky.
>> I am trying to find out if there is reasonable doubt
>> as to what the smartd is reporting as if the are recent
>> errors.
>> At this point I will try to see if it is still
>> under warranty and have it serviced.
>>  
> You may want to consider using fsck to check for bad sectors within
> your filesystem(s). This will definitely not report bad sectors that
> were marked as such by the manufacturer. But it may take more time
> than finding out whether smart reports them.
>
> Peter
>

I thought fsck simply checks the metadata
of the filesystem, free blocks and allocated
blocks, cylinder groups, inodes...etc.

So, it is not clear that fsck will detect new
bad blocks.

I read about the old days when the drives did not
do auto  bad block forwarding (re-mapping). There
was a low level formatter which actually detected
the bad blocks and remapped them. Unfortunately
for today, once the drive runs out of spare good
blocks to forward bad blocks to, throw it away.
I really wish there was such a low level formatter
for today's drives. It would extend the life of a
drive a little longer.

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Re: bad HD sectors

[JD]

On 06/19/2010 11:16 PM, Kam Leo was caught red-handed while writing::
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Peter Langfelder
>   wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:04 PM, JD  wrote:
>>  
>>>
>>  
>>> Well, I am not actively using the disk. Too risky.
>>> I am trying to find out if there is reasonable doubt
>>> as to what the smartd is reporting as if the are recent
>>> errors.
>>> At this point I will try to see if it is still
>>> under warranty and have it serviced.
>>>
>> You may want to consider using fsck to check for bad sectors within
>> your filesystem(s). This will definitely not report bad sectors that
>> were marked as such by the manufacturer. But it may take more time
>> than finding out whether smart reports them.
>>
>> Peter
>>  
>
> You don't have to take smartd's word about the health of your drive.
> Run the manufacturer's diagnostic.
>
Well, I will try the WD lifeguard diagnostic tool.
I am  not very hopeful, but they will probably
ask me to do it before they will give me an rma.



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