Re: Possible timezone error on resume from hibernate - SOLVED
On Mon, 2023-07-17 at 12:20 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My system hibernates and powers down at 1:30am, and is woken up by a > smart plug powering it on at 8am. This is working (touch wood) and > the > system verifiably wakes up at 8am. However the journal logs of the > resume event show 9am, even though once fully resumed the time is > correct. The difference would appear to be due to summer time, > currently in force in the UK. > > The hardware clock is set to Universal time (shown by 'hwclock -u') > and > I assume the log entries at this point in the system resume are not > adjusting for timezone, hence the journal entries are incorrect. > > Is this a known bug? Not a bug, just user error (my own). Turns out my hardware clock was set to local time, which is not recommended. The fix: # timedatectl set-local-rtc 0 poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Possible timezone error on resume from hibernate - SOLVED
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 10:51 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Not a bug, just user error (my own). Turns out my hardware clock was > set to local time, which is not recommended. The fix: > > # timedatectl set-local-rtc 0 I seem to remember it used to be quite straight-forward to set up a new installation with the clock set to UTC. Now it's far less obvious how its been configured, and to tell it to do what you want. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.92.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 20 11:48:01 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Anyone got RoundCubeMail installed happily in a host / VM / Podman Container?
People, I have been battling with this for a while - I have had an old version of RCM working on old Fedoras and occasionally being updated but I thought I would start with a clean install of F38 and the RCM RPM . . I can sometimes get to the /roundcubemail/installer screen but can never get the mains screen to display - and none of the logs seem to explain why . . I have used PostgreSQL historically but even the Sqlite attempts didn't work either . . Any help appreciated . . Thanks. Phil. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Possible timezone error on resume from hibernate - SOLVED
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 22:19 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 10:51 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Not a bug, just user error (my own). Turns out my hardware clock > > was > > set to local time, which is not recommended. The fix: > > > > # timedatectl set-local-rtc 0 > > I seem to remember it used to be quite straight-forward to set up a > new > installation with the clock set to UTC. Now it's far less obvious > how > its been configured, and to tell it to do what you want. To check, just run 'timedatectl' with no arguments: $ timedatectl Local time: Thu 2023-07-20 17:22:54 BST Universal time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 UTC RTC time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 Time zone: Europe/London (BST, +0100) System clock synchronized: yes NTP service: active RTC in local TZ: no poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Possible timezone error on resume from hibernate - SOLVED
Tim: >> I seem to remember it used to be quite straight-forward to set up a >> new installation with the clock set to UTC. Now it's far less >> obvious how its been configured, and to tell it to do what you want. Patrick O'Callaghan: > To check, just run 'timedatectl' with no arguments: > > $ timedatectl >Local time: Thu 2023-07-20 17:22:54 BST >Universal time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 UTC > RTC time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 > Time zone: Europe/London (BST, +0100) > System clock synchronized: yes > NTP service: active > RTC in local TZ: no My main point was about during installation. There used to be a very obvious checkbox for hardware clock is set to UTC. I don't recall that being the case for a long time. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.92.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 20 11:48:01 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Possible timezone error on resume from hibernate - SOLVED
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:41 PM Tim via users wrote: > > Tim: > >> I seem to remember it used to be quite straight-forward to set up a > >> new installation with the clock set to UTC. Now it's far less > >> obvious how its been configured, and to tell it to do what you want. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > To check, just run 'timedatectl' with no arguments: > > > > $ timedatectl > >Local time: Thu 2023-07-20 17:22:54 BST > >Universal time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 UTC > > RTC time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 > > Time zone: Europe/London (BST, +0100) > > System clock synchronized: yes > > NTP service: active > > RTC in local TZ: no > > My main point was about during installation. There used to be a very > obvious checkbox for hardware clock is set to UTC. I don't recall that > being the case for a long time. I think Tim is correct. There used to be a checkbox about the hardware clock. (Maybe it is still there?) But I don't think the user is to blame. Users should not have to do extra the work. It is 2023, not 1986. Computers work for users, not the other way around. Systemd should have determined how the realtime clock is configured, and then acted accordingly. It's not our job to tell systemd information it can readily gather itself. Jeff ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Anyone got RoundCubeMail installed happily in a host / VM / Podman Container?
Hi Phil I don't think that this is of any help for you, but here RoundCubeMail 1.5.2 runs flawlessly on Oracle Linux Server release 8.8, kernel 5.4.17-2136.321.4.el8uek.x86_64.with mysql/mariadb 10.3.35 As far as I remember, the installation was simple (at least painless): adjust the servers, the Starttls, the directories, the mysql-access and off you go. Good luck suomi On 20/07/2023 16.18, phr via users wrote: People, I have been battling with this for a while - I have had an old version of RCM working on old Fedoras and occasionally being updated but I thought I would start with a clean install of F38 and the RCM RPM . . I can sometimes get to the /roundcubemail/installer screen but can never get the mains screen to display - and none of the logs seem to explain why . . I have used PostgreSQL historically but even the Sqlite attempts didn't work either . . Any help appreciated . . Thanks. Phil. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Possible timezone error on resume from hibernate - SOLVED
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 22:15 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I think Tim is correct. There used to be a checkbox about the hardware > clock. (Maybe it is still there?) If it is, I don't think it was obvious. I don't recall seeing it for a long time. > But I don't think the user is to blame. Users should not have to do > extra the work. It is 2023, not 1986. Computers work for users, not > the other way around. Systemd should have determined how the realtime > clock is configured, and then acted accordingly. It's not our job to > tell systemd information it can readily gather itself. I agree that computers should be doing most of the work for us, though it can be difficult to determine is the clock set correctly, incorrectly, or just to a different timezone. It's one of those things where sensibly questioning the user during installation a few things would be a good thing: - Is this a single-boot PC? There are advantages in running the hardware clock on UTC for Linux, do you want to do so? Is this a dual-boot PC? There are difficulties in Windows handling the hardware clock set to UTC, do you want to run it on local time? Select your timezone. Shows the hardware clock time to you. Is this the correct time? Set it now? manually/automatically - I know businesses use the auto-wake feature in BIOS/UEFI to start up various PCs before their staff arrive (and sensible IT staff will stagger them so they don't all start at the same time). It requires mental gymnastics to do that if they're not running on localtime. And it always required some tinkering to force Windows into accepting the clock was on UTC (if you could, at all). Why do Microsoft always have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing sensible things? There's a huge list of dumb things they do... -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.92.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 20 11:48:01 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: wordpress problem
> Am 20.07.2023 um 01:57 schrieb Bill Cunningham : > > > On 7/18/2023 7:16 PM, Peter Boy wrote: >> >>> Am 16.07.2023 um 20:23 schrieb Bill Cunningham : >>> >>> >>> I definitely want to see your doc article. >>> >> >> I first version is now available: >> >> Installing Wordpress (on Fedora Server Edition) >> https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/tutorials/wordpress-installation/ >> >> >> It would be really helpful to get comments, amendments, feedback, >> corrections! >> >> Please use the issue button using the bug symbol on the right side beyond >> the blue header bar or the edit button next to it. Or write your comments >> here on the mailing list. >> >> >> >> Well there are some typos but that's to be expected. I am not complaining. They are expected, indeed. It is incredible hard to proofread a text you have written yourself. So, some hints would be helpful. And also maybe some improvement of the wording, if my German mother tongue comes to the surface too much. >> What you have written concerning virtualization too is intriguing. I will >> look into that but one of the first things I do after install is install >> Xfce4 and firefox. And then httpd. I would like to get the server just as I >> want it Yeah, it's a kind of „off label“ use. I wrote a short text about it: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/usecase-gui-addon/ But to get the „real feeling“ you should use the virtualization option I described briefly. >> and create an image to upload to GCP, that's my ultimate goal. I will >> continue to study this though. The installation of the Server Edition is one of our focal points for the next months (see https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/110). So I would be happy if we could communicate on that. And I'm skeptical about how happy you'll be with operating a graphical interface over a network connection. Best Peter -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy p...@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Anyone got RoundCubeMail installed happily in a host / VM / Podman Container?
suomi, On 2023-07-21 14:30, fedora wrote: Hi Phil I don't think that this is of any help for you, but here RoundCubeMail 1.5.2 runs flawlessly on Oracle Linux Server release 8.8, kernel 5.4.17-2136.321.4.el8uek.x86_64.with mysql/mariadb 10.3.35 As far as I remember, the installation was simple (at least painless): adjust the servers, the Starttls, the directories, the mysql-access and off you go. I have had an old version installed from a tar.gz and running for a long time through various versions of Fedora but have not had success with the RPM so far - I will check it out again soon. Good luck Thanks! Phil. On 20/07/2023 16.18, phr via users wrote: People, I have been battling with this for a while - I have had an old version of RCM working on old Fedoras and occasionally being updated but I thought I would start with a clean install of F38 and the RCM RPM . . I can sometimes get to the /roundcubemail/installer screen but can never get the mains screen to display - and none of the logs seem to explain why . . I have used PostgreSQL historically but even the Sqlite attempts didn't work either . . Any help appreciated . . Thanks. Phil. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
