On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:41 PM Tim via users
<users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> Tim:
> >> I seem to remember it used to be quite straight-forward to set up a
> >> new installation with the clock set to UTC.  Now it's far less
> >> obvious how its been configured, and to tell it to do what you want.
>
> Patrick O'Callaghan:
> > To check, just run 'timedatectl' with no arguments:
> >
> > $ timedatectl
> >                Local time: Thu 2023-07-20 17:22:54 BST
> >            Universal time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54 UTC
> >                  RTC time: Thu 2023-07-20 16:22:54
> >                 Time zone: Europe/London (BST, +0100)
> > System clock synchronized: yes
> >               NTP service: active
> >           RTC in local TZ: no
>
> My main point was about during installation.  There used to be a very
> obvious checkbox for hardware clock is set to UTC.  I don't recall that
> being the case for a long time.

I think Tim is correct. There used to be a checkbox about the hardware
clock. (Maybe it is still there?)

But I don't think the user is to blame. Users should not have to do
extra the work. It is 2023, not 1986. Computers work for users, not
the other way around. Systemd should have determined how the realtime
clock is configured, and then acted accordingly. It's not our job to
tell systemd information it can readily gather itself.

Jeff
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