Re: midco DNS corruption?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 1/24/21 7:52 PM, Tim via users wrote:

Tim:

It doesn't.  The web browser waits for something to answer it.  Go
on, try to get your web browser to connect to a non-existent server,
it doesn't immediately stop looking.  If you load up a page that
might try waiting for a dozen different things before it will
proceed and let you read something, it's a pain.


Samuel Sieb:

That's why you don't use a non-existent server.  localhost exists,
so you get an immediate rejection.


You can only get an immediate *rejection* if there's something there to
reject it.  If you don't have a webserver listening on the HTTP and
HTTPS ports, and don't have a firewall rejecting connections, then the
browser is going to wait for a connection, that's how it works.  A
rejection is very different from a no response (yet).


That's not correct.  If there's a computer at the IP address and nothing 
is listening on the port and the firewall is not configured to drop 
packets, then you will get an immediate reply saying that no one's home. 
 If there's no computer at the IP address and it's not on your local 
subnet, then TCP will keep trying until it times out which will be quite 
a while.  If there's a computer at the IP address and the firewall is 
configured to drop packets, same thing.


localhost is the first case.  There's a computer at the IP address, 
nothing listening (if you're not running a web server on your computer), 
and no firewall.  So you get an immediate reply that you can't connect, 
no delays at all.

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Re: Concealing posts with email address

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 14:38 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 20:25 +, Am Titan wrote:
> > I wants to implement SSO I have freeIPA installed and working.
> > Can I use cockpit for SSO, or do I have to use keykloack for SSO?
> 
> Ask unrelated questions in a new post.  Anybody who might be able to
> answer you about SSO and FreeIPA but isn't interested in a post about
> "concealing posts with email address" will not have read your message. 
> That's why you don't bury questions in the middle of an unrelated
> thread.
> 
> Start a COMPLETELY NEW post (do not start posting by replying to some
> other message in any way at all), and give it a subject line
> appropriate to your query.

Well put. I'd just add that this behaviour is known as "thread
hijacking", in case the user doesn't understand why people might
complain about it.

poc
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Re: Mail Reader -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2021-01-24 23:02, Tim via users wrote:

On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 12:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Orca might work if I could adjust the voice to something
intelligible, the default;;t seems to lose syllables from each word.

Another approach might be trying to find out whether a different voice
is better, or if a different text-to-speech engine can be chosen.

I've only looked at screen readers on Linux with a very cursory glance,
just from curiosity.  I wasn't that impressed, either.  My 1980s Amiga
sounded better.

There must be some special interest groups that look into disability
support on Linux.
  

*
Yes, about fifteen years ago when I began worrying about what might lay 
ahead I found a text to speech program that worked but the voice was 
awful and I didn't need it at the time. Actually my problem began 21 
years ago , I was Reading when my right eye's retina went dark.


I will stand by my original complaint about the generic menu names, this 
Fedora Linux and not Apple or Windows, both of which confuse me when I 
encounter them, Now I am forced to learn to use an iPod with it's 
confusing array of icons that are difficult for me to see without my 
'Merlin' CCTV to provide decent size images. I think the typical Fedora 
user is continually learning and enjoys doing so and doesn't need 
extraneous riddles in the application menu names, Like Mail Reader or 
any of the others cited in this thread.


I should have known that Mail Reader dies not do what it says it does, 
unlike other menu items it just does nothing when clicked.


I thank everyone for their responses to my question.  m open to 
suggestions if anyone has a Linux solution to the mail reader problem. I 
found nothing in Orca configuration that made it intelligible, other 
than that it still looks like a good possibility.





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Re: Concealing posts with email address

[Tim via users]

On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 10:01 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> that this behaviour is known as "thread hijacking", in case the user
> doesn't understand why people might complain about it.

Since the original post in this thread was his own, he mightn't
understand that.

When someone else romps into the middle of a thread of messages and
diverts it, people really don't like that.  Especially when it
prematurely aborts the original thread.
 
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Re: Mail Reader -

[John Pilkington]

On 25/01/2021 11:50, Bob Goodwin wrote:



On 2021-01-24 23:02, Tim via users wrote:

On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 12:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Orca might work if I could adjust the voice to something
intelligible, the default;;t seems to lose syllables from each word.

Another approach might be trying to find out whether a different voice
is better, or if a different text-to-speech engine can be chosen.

I've only looked at screen readers on Linux with a very cursory glance,
just from curiosity.  I wasn't that impressed, either.  My 1980s Amiga
sounded better.



A quick search found 'espeak'.  It seems to be installed on my el7 and 
Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora Magazine 
August 14, 2017


https://fedoramagazine.org/add-speech-fedora-system/

I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a look.

HTH

John P
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Re: Mail Reader -

[John Pilkington]

On 25/01/2021 12:49, John Pilkington wrote:

On 25/01/2021 11:50, Bob Goodwin wrote:



On 2021-01-24 23:02, Tim via users wrote:

On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 12:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Orca might work if I could adjust the voice to something
intelligible, the default;;t seems to lose syllables from each word.

Another approach might be trying to find out whether a different voice
is better, or if a different text-to-speech engine can be chosen.

I've only looked at screen readers on Linux with a very cursory glance,
just from curiosity.  I wasn't that impressed, either.  My 1980s Amiga
sounded better.



A quick search found 'espeak'.  It seems to be installed on my el7 and 
Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora Magazine 
August 14, 2017


https://fedoramagazine.org/add-speech-fedora-system/

I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a look.

HTH


I suspect that it won't help much.  Orca does appear to be the most 
likely offering, mainly via Gnome.  Searching for 'gnome orca' suggests 
several sources of help.  'orca' by itself will offer boat trips...


>
> John P
>
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Re: Mail Reader -

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 00:00, Tim via users 
wrote:

> On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 14:19 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > I really think it is silly ti use those generic names in the menu. I
> > should change them all to something meaningful like the application
> > name.
>
> There's some logic to it.  I found the opposite problem when I've
> looked at KDE, in the past.  All those Ksomething named applications
> where the name gives no clue as to what it does.  And Gnome was just as
> bad:
>
> Evolution - does that sound like a mail program?  There was a game by
> that name, about evolution.
>
> Empathy - does that sound like an internet messaging program?
>
> Brasero - does that sound like it might be a disc burning program?
>
> At least some programs acknowledge the problem (both ways), and you'll
> find them listed in the menus like "Pidgin Internet Messenger" or "VLC
> media player."
>

Applications need to avoid name clashes.   Ubuntu has the "snap" package
system and
a "snap" program.  The European Space Agency (ESA) has the "SeNtinel
Application Platform" (SNAP) that provides a "snap" program.

ESA SNAP has a Python library called snappy.

https://snap.stanford.edu/snappy/
Snap.py is a Python interface for SNAP. SNAP is a general purpose, high
performance system for analysis and manipulation of large networks.

python-snappy · PyPI 

https://pypi.org/project/python-snappy/
Python library for the snappy compression library from Google.

It is probably time to have a system of unique identifiers.  Package
managers would need to provide a way to search for these ID's.

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Re: Mail Reader -

[Jonathan Billings]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:27:07AM -0400, George N. White III wrote:
> It is probably time to have a system of unique identifiers.  Package
> managers would need to provide a way to search for these ID's.

That is what the XDG Desktop entry spec[1] is for.  It helps the
desktop environment know what applications are available and what they
are for. 

With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it
is a mail reader.  For example, these are all set:  

X-GNOME-FullName=Evolution Mail and Calendar

Comment=Manage your email, contacts and schedule

Keywords=email;calendar;contact;addressbook;task;

Categories=GNOME;GTK;Office;Email;Calendar;ContactManagement;X-Red-Hat-Base;

I believe the categories also will make the standard GNOME desktop
environment let you choose it as a default email reader.  I took a look
at the Thunderbird .desktop file too, it also has similar information
for helping the user know it is an email client.

Both of these packages include a .desktop file that has dozens of
different translations of the name and comments to make it easier for
non-english speakers to understand what it is for.


1. https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/

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Re: Mail Reader -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2021-01-25 09:22, John Pilkington wrote:


A quick search found 'espeak'.  It seems to be installed on my el7 and 
Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora 
Magazine August 14, 2017


https://fedoramagazine.org/add-speech-fedora-system/

I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a look.

HTH 

*
Espeak was the first I tried and it had essentially the same voice 
problem, someone mentioned Orca and I went off on another tangent. it 
too is unintelligible on my system. I should try Espeak again but I 
suspect Orca is a variation of the same program, the items offered for 
configuration are similar if not the same it appears ...


more to think about, thanks,  Bob

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Re: Mail Reader -

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 12:33, Jonathan Billings  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:27:07AM -0400, George N. White III wrote:
> > It is probably time to have a system of unique identifiers.  Package
> > managers would need to provide a way to search for these ID's.
>
> That is what the XDG Desktop entry spec[1] is for.  It helps the
> desktop environment know what applications are available and what they
> are for.
>

XDG Desktop entry spec says:

The desktop entry specification describes desktop entries: files d
escribing information about an application such as the name, icon,
and description. These files are used for application launchers and
for creating menus of applications that can be launched.


That doesn't address the problem of totally different programs
sharing similar
names.

>
> With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it
> is a mail reader.  For example, these are all set:
>

"mail reader" is not very helpful as it misses the most of the modern email
"client"
functions: composing, sending, calendar, addresses, spam management, etc.

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Re: Mail Reader -

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 14:36, Bob Goodwin  wrote:

>
>
> On 2021-01-25 09:22, John Pilkington wrote:
> >
> > A quick search found 'espeak'.  It seems to be installed on my el7 and
> > Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora
> > Magazine August 14, 2017
> >
> > https://fedoramagazine.org/add-speech-fedora-system/
> >
> > I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a look.
>
>
> > HTH
> *
> Espeak was the first I tried and it had essentially the same voice
> problem, someone mentioned Orca and I went off on another tangent. it
> too is unintelligible on my system. I should try Espeak again but I
> suspect Orca is a variation of the same program, the items offered for
> configuration are similar if not the same it appears ...
>
> more to think about, thanks,  Bob
>

I once used text to speech alerts for  things that needed immediate
attention (server room overtemp, file server or satellite receiver
gone offline).   It was cheaper than a pager and no paperwork was
required.  At the time, festival had better voices than espeak (and
festival currently has a Fedora package).

[Note for anyone thinking about getting involved with earth observation
satellites -- avoid sensors that don't require daylight and you will get
to keep more normal working hours.]

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Re: Mail Reader -

[Tim via users]

On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 11:32 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it
> is a mail reader.  For example, these are all set:  
> 
> X-GNOME-FullName=Evolution Mail and Calendar
> 
> Comment=Manage your email, contacts and schedule
> 
> Keywords=email;calendar;contact;addressbook;task;
> 
> Categories=GNOME;GTK;Office;Email;Calendar;ContactManagement;X-Red-
> Hat-Base;

While that's good, it's bad user-experience to have to hover over each
item in a menu to find out what it is, instead of being able to easily
tell just by reading the menu.

At least in old Gnome, MATE, and some other desktops, you still have a
structured menu where you can find things.  The desktops which have no
menus and just splatter all your applications as a huge page, or pages,
 of icons in alphabetical order (like tablets and mobile phones), are a
user-interface disgrace.  Touch screens are all the more worse as you
can't hover a pointer over an icon for a hint, you've got to do a long
press and wait.  Everything about it makes it slower to use.
 
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Re: Mail Reader -

[Jonathan Billings]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 03:29:59PM -0400, George N. White III wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 12:33, Jonathan Billings  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:27:07AM -0400, George N. White III wrote:
> > > It is probably time to have a system of unique identifiers.  Package
> > > managers would need to provide a way to search for these ID's.
> >
> > That is what the XDG Desktop entry spec[1] is for.  It helps the
> > desktop environment know what applications are available and what they
> > are for.
> >
> 
> XDG Desktop entry spec says:
> 
> The desktop entry specification describes desktop entries: files d
> escribing information about an application such as the name, icon,
> and description. These files are used for application launchers and
> for creating menus of applications that can be launched.
> 
> 
> That doesn't address the problem of totally different programs
> sharing similar
> names.

You want a universal registry of software names?  You are going to be
in a very sad situation if you expect anyone to adhere to it.  What
are you going to do, fine people for creating software with a similar
name?  Some sort of global copyright system?  Good luck.

And if you think that a UUID would be better, you're out of your
mind. That's even harder for humans to understand.

The point of the XDG Desktop Entry spec is to provide as much
information as you can about software to make it easier to tell what
it is.

> >
> > With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it
> > is a mail reader.  For example, these are all set:
> >
> 
> "mail reader" is not very helpful as it misses the most of the modern email
> "client"
> functions: composing, sending, calendar, addresses, spam management, etc.

I would argue that composing and sending email is part of the
definition of an email client.  The evolution desktop entry actually
says it does calendaring (which I don't consider part of an email
client) and managing addressbook.  Spam management is not something
i'd even think about in a client anymore, its mostly server-side
anymore. 

No idea why your software says "mail reader", I used the Evolution and
Thunderbird desktop entry as an example of how it is actually
implemented in GNOME using the XDG. 

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Re: Mail Reader -

[Jonathan Billings]

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 07:20:26AM +1030, Tim via users wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 11:32 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > With Evoluion, the .desktop file provides has a lot of hints that it
> > is a mail reader.  For example, these are all set:  
> > 
> > X-GNOME-FullName=Evolution Mail and Calendar
> > 
> > Comment=Manage your email, contacts and schedule
> > 
> > Keywords=email;calendar;contact;addressbook;task;
> > 
> > Categories=GNOME;GTK;Office;Email;Calendar;ContactManagement;X-Red-
> > Hat-Base;
> 
> While that's good, it's bad user-experience to have to hover over each
> item in a menu to find out what it is, instead of being able to easily
> tell just by reading the menu.
> 
> At least in old Gnome, MATE, and some other desktops, you still have a
> structured menu where you can find things.  The desktops which have no
> menus and just splatter all your applications as a huge page, or pages,
>  of icons in alphabetical order (like tablets and mobile phones), are a
> user-interface disgrace.  Touch screens are all the more worse as you
> can't hover a pointer over an icon for a hint, you've got to do a long
> press and wait.  Everything about it makes it slower to use.

I agree that the lack of hierarchical menus is a pain in modern GNOME
implementations.  The keywords help for if you start typing at the
application menu, as well as finding the software in the GUI Software
application.  I feel like the deficiency isn't in the Desktop Entry
spec, but how the desktop environment is implemented, which is why I
still use MATE. 

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Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text into a
webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?

Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?

Thanks !

Fedora 33 Workstation, fully up to date.
KDE Plasma desktop
AMD 3600X, 64GB RAM @ 3600 MHz, NVME SSD
Internet connection is 80 Mb/s download, 10 Mb/s upload.

$ uname -a
Linux bigboy 5.10.9-201.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 20 16:56:23 UTC 2021
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU
/Linux

$ dnf list firefox
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:12 ago on Mon 25 Jan 2021 02:49:09 PM
MST.
Installed Packages
firefox.x86_64  84.0.2-1.fc33
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[Łukasz Posadowski]

W dniu pon, 25.01.2021 o godzinie 14∶51 -0700, użytkownik linux guy
napisał:
> Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
> into a
> webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
> 
> Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
> 
> Thanks !

I'm having the same problem since around 2-3 weeks. I forgot for how
long exactly. I'm on Gnome, so it is not KDe specific. It's more
obvious in a text field with a lot of text, like in a long thread on
forum. I suspect spell checker, but i have to test it more closely.


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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

I've been updating Firefox and everything else whenever they arrive in
Fedora33/stable.  This is the first time I've noticed the slowness.   And
the slowness isn't the same on every web page.  Some are worse than
others.  Gmail, for instance, works fine.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:01 PM Łukasz Posadowski 
wrote:

> W dniu pon, 25.01.2021 o godzinie 14∶51 -0700, użytkownik linux guy
> napisał:
>
> Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text into a
> webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>
> Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> I'm having the same problem since around 2-3 weeks. I forgot for how long
> exactly. I'm on Gnome, so it is not KDe specific. It's more obvious in a
> text field with a lot of text, like in a long thread on forum. I suspect
> spell checker, but i have to test it more closely.
>
>
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[Joe Zeff]

On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text 
into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?


Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?


Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any 
other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?

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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

I'm not sure what is slowing down.  Just noticed FF last night.  Plasma had
a few glitches in the last week, but it seems to be operating fine now.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
> > Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
> > into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
> >
> > Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>
> Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any
> other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?
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Re: Mail Reader -

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 16:20 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> I would argue that composing and sending email is part of the
> definition of an email client.
> 

Of course. I wouldn't describe an MUA as a "mail reader".

> The evolution desktop entry actually
> says it does calendaring (which I don't consider part of an email
> client) and managing addressbook.

Evolution is a groupware suite. It includes email but also those other
things (plus task management).

> Spam management is not something i'd even think about in a client anymore, 
> its mostly server-side
> anymore.

For some people it is, for others it isn't. Evolution doesn't have any
built-in spam management but can use anti-spam tools such as Bogofilter
or SpamAssassin.

poc

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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 18:01, Łukasz Posadowski 
wrote:

> W dniu pon, 25.01.2021 o godzinie 14∶51 -0700, użytkownik linux guy
> napisał:
>
> Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text into a
> webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>
> Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>
>
I'm seeing this on multiple OS's and browsers.Turning off ad-blockers
seems to help, so I'm wondering if there is a new campaign among
advertisers to make people stop using ad-blockers.



>
> Thanks !
>
>
> I'm having the same problem since around 2-3 weeks. I forgot for how long
> exactly. I'm on Gnome, so it is not KDe specific. It's more obvious in a
> text field with a lot of text, like in a long thread on forum. I suspect
> spell checker, but i have to test it more closely.
>
>
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>
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

I think I found the problem.  That battery in my wireless keyboard was
low.   Interesting thing is... it didn't affect all applications the same.
Some were much slower and others weren't really affected.  Interesting.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:39 PM linux guy  wrote:

> I'm not sure what is slowing down.  Just noticed FF last night.  Plasma
> had a few glitches in the last week, but it seems to be operating fine now.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
>> > Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
>> > into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>> >
>> > Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>>
>> Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any
>> other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

Spoke too soon.  YouTube and Reddit are both very slow, esp. for typing.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:55 PM linux guy  wrote:

> I think I found the problem.  That battery in my wireless keyboard was
> low.   Interesting thing is... it didn't affect all applications the same.
> Some were much slower and others weren't really affected.  Interesting.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:39 PM linux guy  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what is slowing down.  Just noticed FF last night.  Plasma
>> had a few glitches in the last week, but it seems to be operating fine now.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
>>> > Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
>>> > into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>>> >
>>> > Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>>>
>>> Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any
>>> other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[Ed Greshko]

On 26/01/2021 08:43, linux guy wrote:

Spoke too soon.  YouTube and Reddit are both very slow, esp. for typing.


You're saying typing into the search bar of YouTube is very slow?
If that is this case, I have no problems.

FWIW, I don't use FF that often and only have 3 extensions installed.

Ant Video Downloader
Plasma Integration
TinEye Reverse Image Search.

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OT: using an old tablet PC as an input device for laptop, both running F33

[Ranjan Maitra]

Hi,

I have an old Gateway PC tablet running F33. It is old and the only reason I 
have it around is the tablet function. However, I really do not like it that 
much, and I was wondering if I can use it as an input device (to simply use the 
touchscreen tablet part) for my Dell M3800 laptop. I am not sure how to go 
about it. Is it possible?

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: serious rkhunter warnings not seen before (by me). [CLOSED]

[Stephen Morris]

On 22/1/21 22:53, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 22/01/2021 19:40, George N. White III wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 21:04, Samuel Sieb > wrote:


    On 1/21/21 5:00 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
    > On 22/1/21 10:18, Ed Greshko wrote:
    >> FWIW, rkhunter has a history of occasional "false 
positives" as

    >> changes occur.
    >>
    >> A google search of the form
    >>
    >> rkhunter libkeyutils.so.1.9 site:bugzilla.redhat.com 

    > Hi Ed, I just installed rkhunter and issued the command you 
specified
    > and got the message, Invalid option specified: 
libkeyutils.so.1.9. Have

    > I done something wrong?

    That wasn't a command.  That was a search string to enter 
into Google.



The "site:..." should have been a clue.


FWIW, I did't think any "clue" was necessary.  I don't know how more 
direct I could have been
when I wrote:  "A google search in the form" directly proceeding the 
line.


Maybe I should have included it all on the same line?

A google search of the form: rkhunter libkeyutils.so.1.9 
site:bugzilla.redhat.com 


But, I put it on its own line thinking it would be easier to copy the 
entire line with a quick

triple mouse click.

Sorry Ed, I'm a bit slow. I read that line and it didn't register, I 
thought it was a command to tell rkhunter to go to the specified site to 
look for info on libkeyutils.so.1.9.


regards,
Steve

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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

Test case... open a Reddit sub in FF and attempt to reply to a post.
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[Ed Greshko]

On 26/01/2021 10:12, linux guy wrote:

Test case... open a Reddit sub in FF and attempt to reply to a post.


No problem with that either.

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Re: OT: using an old tablet PC as an input device for laptop, both running F33

[Samuel Sieb]

On 1/25/21 5:27 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

I have an old Gateway PC tablet running F33. It is old and the only reason I 
have it around is the tablet function. However, I really do not like it that 
much, and I was wondering if I can use it as an input device (to simply use the 
touchscreen tablet part) for my Dell M3800 laptop. I am not sure how to go 
about it. Is it possible?


A possibly simple method would be to turn on desktop sharing on your 
laptop and use a vnc client on the tablet.

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Re: rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 1/24/21 11:52 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:38:52AM -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Anyone know what this is `dnf upgrade` error is
all about?

  Problem: cannot install both rdma-core-33.0-1.fc33.x86_64 and
rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64
   - rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture
   - cannot install the best update candidate for package
rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64
   - problem with installed package rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686


Are you trying to upgrade everything or just one package at once? This kind
of error is common when attempting to do a piecemeal upgrade.

In any case, something is out of sync, and it knows there is an update for
x86_64 but doesn't see one for i686, and you have both installed.

Is this for a supercomputer cluster system? Because if it is not, I would be
surprised if you have a use for this particular package, and `dnf remove
rdma-core` is going to be the easiest resolution.




Hi Matthew,

I just did a
   # dnf remove rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64
and now `dnf upgrade` is happy.

Go figure...

Thank you for the help!

-T
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

Thanks for testing.  I wonder why I have an issue with it ?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:22 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 26/01/2021 10:12, linux guy wrote:
> > Test case... open a Reddit sub in FF and attempt to reply to a post.
>
> No problem with that either.
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[Ed Greshko]

On 26/01/2021 10:40, linux guy wrote:

Thanks for testing.  I wonder why I have an issue with it ?


First. Kindly don't top post.

And, have you tried (re)starting FF with all extensions disabled?

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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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Oops !
It seems to work properly now.
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Re: rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture

[Richard Shaw]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 1:52 PM Matthew Miller 
wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:38:52AM -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > Anyone know what this is `dnf upgrade` error is
> > all about?
> >
> >  Problem: cannot install both rdma-core-33.0-1.fc33.x86_64 and
> > rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64
> >   - rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686 has inferior architecture
> >   - cannot install the best update candidate for package
> > rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.x86_64
> >   - problem with installed package rdma-core-32.0-1.fc33.i686
>
> Are you trying to upgrade everything or just one package at once? This kind
> of error is common when attempting to do a piecemeal upgrade.
>
> In any case, something is out of sync, and it knows there is an update for
> x86_64 but doesn't see one for i686, and you have both installed.
>
> Is this for a supercomputer cluster system? Because if it is not, I would
> be
> surprised if you have a use for this particular package, and `dnf remove
> rdma-core` is going to be the easiest resolution.
>

I ran into the same thing yesterday, however, I have never explicitly
installed rdma-core. I wonder what pulled it in on both x86_64 and i686?

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[Ed Greshko]

On 26/01/2021 11:01, linux guy wrote:

Oops !
It seems to work properly now.


After doing nothing?  Something?

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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

Nothing that I'm aware of.  I'll post if it slows down again.

Thanks for the attention.  Fedora rocks !
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Plasma on Xorg Fails to Start After Last System Update

[Stephen Morris]

Hi,
    Three days ago I did a dnf system upgrade to apply all available 
Fedora updates. I have now tried to start Plasma under Xorg, but it now 
refuses to start with a crash in ksplashqml, and if I press 
ctrl-alt-delete to try to logout the ksmserver-greeter also crashes. 
Plasma under Wayland runs quite happily albeit without resolution 
scaling. Gnome under Wayland runs fine without scaling and Gnome under 
Xorg also runs fine. How do I determine why the apps are failing with 
Plasma under Xorg now?


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Steve
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