Re: Strange firewalld error from fail2ban
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 15:46 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:32 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > Dec 03 10:10:45 bree firewalld[844]: ERROR: '/usr/sbin/iptables-restore -w > > -n' failed: iptables-restore v1.8.0 (legacy): Set fail2ban-sshd doesn't > > exist. > > > > Does this help? > > https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/issues/2179 Thanks, I'll try that. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Anyone else have occasional nvidia crashes?
I have a GeForce GTX 750 Ti in my system at work, using the rpmfusion nvidia drivers (because nouveau can't go more than a few hours without crashing). Every so often, when the X server starts or is restarted by logging out, the screen will go blank and the system will be frozen, needing a power cycle to get it back. This only happens at work, a very similar system at home with a newer model nvidia card never has this problem (though it certainly had the same crashes under nouveau). Just curious if anyone else with the 750 Ti has seen similar symptoms. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: e-mail security.
Barracuda Networks provides common e-mail SPAM appliances and mail archiving appliances https://www.barracuda.com/ On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:24 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Today, I received a message claiming to be from "nore...@barracuda.com". > Never heard of them. The message tells me to click a link in the > message to view an encrypted message. Now I know that clicking links in > e-mail is risky. How do I safely determine if this is genuine and safe > without clicking that link? > > thanks, > Bill. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: e-mail security.
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 23:12 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 10:59 -0800, Howard Howell wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 00:29 +1030, Tim wrote: > > > Allegedly, on or about 2 December 2018, Howard Howell sent: > > > > I'm still using evolution in F28 and it doesn't do that. If I > > > > am > > > > interested, I copy the link location and paste it into a new > > > > email. > > > > Generally I'm not interested, so it is not too troubling. but > > > > it > > > > would be nice if the hover function worked in evolution too. > > > > > > Look in the View menu, inside the Layout section, enable the Show > > > Status Bar item. > > > > > > > It shows 4 options, all checked. What did you think I would find > > there? > > I'm seeing five options: > - Show Menu Bar > - Show Tool Bar > - Show Status Bar > - Show Side Bar F9 > - Show To Do Bar > > poc > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org After the latest update I show five, too. They are all checked, but the hover function described still doesn't work. Maybe something in my setup or .config. I'll create a new user and see what shows up there. It's not a big deal, but I am curious now. Regards, Les H ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F29 support for Intel Rapid Storage Technology (RST)
On 11/30/18 2:24 PM, dsavage--- via users wrote: Does Fedora 29 support the Intel RST (Rapid Storage Technology) chip for hardware RAID? My new ThinkPad P72 came with an RST chip set up with two 2TB PCIe M.2 SSDs in a RAID1 config. The Fedora-29-MATE-Compiz spin DVD doesn't "see" it. Nor does Clonezilla. I've only seen this with a small flash drive and a large spinning drive. In the few cases I've run into this, I've turned off the RST to be able to install. There's a BIOS mode setting for the Intel RST: "RST" mode for RAID, and "AHCI" mode for separate SATA drives. Changing that setting to AHCI will probably break the RAID1 array and render the P72 unbootable. I don't know if that would a destructive, irreversible change, or if changing the mode setting back to RST would restore everything. At least in the ones I've worked with, turning RST off in the BIOS does not corrupt anything. But they've been in a much different configuration than you have. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Evince has no print option -
. In Fedora 29 Evince has no "Print" function despite what its help page says. How can I restore it? Bob From evince help: * To print a document: 1. Click theFile optionsmenu in the top right corner and selectPrintor pressCtrl+P. 2. Choose your printer from the list. 3. ClickPrint. * Printing is enabled for the following file formats: o Device Independent file format (.dvi) o DjVu (.djvu, .djv) o Portable Document Format (.pdf) o PostScript (.ps) o Tagged Image File Format (.tiff, .tif) -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box83 FEDORA-29/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 13:40 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > . > In Fedora 29 Evince has no "Print" function despite what its help > page > says. How can I restore it? > > Bob > Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in the top row /Louis ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:53:27 +0100 Louis Lagendijk wrote: > Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in > the top row I think they held a contest to see who could come up with a design to most effectively hide the controls for evince. Took me about 20 minutes to find it when I first wanted to print something in new evince. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/4/18 10:53 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 13:40 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> . >> In Fedora 29 Evince has no "Print" function despite what its help >> page >> says. How can I restore it? >> >> Bob >> > > Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in > the top row On my evince (V3.30.2), you can click on the hamburger stack (just to the right of the magnifying glass in the upper right corner). In that menu, the printer is the left most icon in the row of icons at the top. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Squawk! Pieces of Seven! Pieces of Seven! Parity Error! - -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/4/18 11:01 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On my evince (V3.30.2), you can click on the hamburger stack And all this time I thought those were pancakes. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/04/18 13:53, Louis Lagendijk wrote: Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in the top row /Louis . Yes that is where I normally find it, I would click on the word "Print" in the list that the left-most icon brings up, but "Print" is no longer there. Perhaps it's a problem related to XFCE, but it always worked until now. I can print from Okular but the display is near impossible for me to read. Thanks for responding, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box83 FEDORA-29/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/4/18 11:06 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > On 12/4/18 11:01 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> On my evince (V3.30.2), you can click on the hamburger stack > > > And all this time I thought those were pancakes. Well, I guess you could "insert stacked food of your preference". For one of our products, we called it a "hamburger stack", but we're from the land of Bob's Big Boy double-decker hamburgers (one of the first and very popular in So. California in the 60's and 70's). Gawd, I AM old! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - The Navy's a bunch of wimps! MY job's an adventure! - -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/4/18 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 12/04/18 13:53, Louis Lagendijk wrote: >> Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in >> the top row >> /Louis > . > Yes that is where I normally find it, I would click on the word "Print" > in the list that the left-most icon brings up, but "Print" is no longer > there. Perhaps it's a problem related to XFCE, but it always worked > until now. > > I can print from Okular but the display is near impossible for me to read. I'm using Xfce as well with the LightDM display manager and there's no text associated with the icon, just the icon (which sort of looks like an abstract inkjet printer with a page going through it). Are the developers running obfuscation contests that we're not privy to in order to confuse us? It's getting pretty awful. Sheesh! This isn't an Easter egg hunt, folks! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - "I'd explain it to you, but your brain might explode." - -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/04/18 14:20, Rick Stevens wrote: I'm using Xfce as well with the LightDM display manager and there's no text associated with the icon, just the icon (which sort of looks like an abstract inkjet printer with a page going through it). Are the developers running obfuscation contests that we're not privy to in order to confuse us? It's getting pretty awful. Sheesh! This isn't an Easter egg hunt, folks! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems . Ok, I found it! I never would have without all the assurance that it was still there, and it is but not easy to see on a 27" inch screen, a *tiny* printer symbol while all the other, mostly useless, options are in the list of words that drops down when you click on the stack of three horizontal lies, pancakes maybe. Why the one little, out of context, icon? I think Tom was right One of the configuration changes I make when setting things up is to change icons to words wherever I can, we've found another candidate ... Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box83 FEDORA-29/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 01:59:40PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:53:27 +0100 > Louis Lagendijk wrote: > > > Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in > > the top row > > I think they held a contest to see who could come up with a design to > most effectively hide the controls for evince. Took me about 20 minutes > to find it when I first wanted to print something in new evince. there seems to be a widespread desire to make UIs so minimal that no one can figure out how to use them. Not to single out anyone, but the Gnome-3 people seem to be on that bandwagon too. No offense meant to any particular person(s), its just that I don't see the value in oversimplification. Fred -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom. - Isaiah 40:28 (niv) - ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 03:17:28PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 12/04/18 14:20, Rick Stevens wrote: > >I'm using Xfce as well with the LightDM display manager and there's > >no text associated with the icon, just the icon (which sort of looks > >like an abstract inkjet printer with a page going through it). > > > >Are the developers running obfuscation contests that we're not privy to > >in order to confuse us? It's getting pretty awful. Sheesh! This isn't > >an Easter egg hunt, folks! > >-- > >- Rick Stevens, Systems > . > Ok, I found it! I never would have without all the assurance that it > was still there, and it is but not easy to see on a 27" inch screen, > a *tiny* printer symbol while all the other, mostly useless, options > are in the list of words that drops down when you click on the stack > of three horizontal lies, pancakes maybe. Why the one little, out of > context, icon? I think Tom was right I neverknew what to call that, until a couple of years ago I saw a software review (don't remember what) where the reviewer wrote about the "hamburger menu". I had to google for it to find out what he was on about. -- --- Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online community. --Roger Ebert, December, 1996 - The Boulder Pledge - ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?
On 28/11/18 8:51 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/27/18 12:48 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/11/18 10:53 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/26/18 1:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 21/11/18 10:02 am, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/20/18 2:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/21/18 5:07 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: A second, smaller time jump will appear once chronyd actually syncs the system clock to true UTC (indicated by that "stepped by" bit in the logs). Once that happens, then log entries will be accurate from that point onwards and chronyd will do its best to keep the system clock synced to UTC. Keep in mind that journalctl will assume ALL log entries have a UTC timestamp, regardless of when the clocks got mangled and this is the cause of the time shifts in the display. The radical change in system clock when it switches from local time to UTC time MAY cause programs to malfunction, since they assume that the system clock was in UTC. This _may_ be why your VPN was disconnecting...it assumed there was no traffic for whatever the difference is between your local time and UTC, so it disconnects. I can understand the time sync causing a problem with the VPN, but the question I have is why now? Its probably 12 months since the last time I ran the VPN, so it would have been in F27 and earlier where the VPN was actively being used and there were no issues with the bios clock being set to local time, which is how I've been running the bios time settings for over 30 years, except for once when I did try it set to GMT and Windows couldn't handle it, but also having said that I haven't been running Linux for that long, I've only been running it at home for 10 or so years and I have always at least dual booted. Could my issue be that this time shift issue has always been present but its only now that it is becoming obvious? It's possible. It's also possible that the VPN client (vpnc, whatever) uses a different default timeout setting now. The old one worked OK, the new one requires you override it in the config. It also may be that the VPN server has been updated and doesn't like something. As I said, this clock thing _may_ explain the VPN dropout. I just don't know. The only way to know is if the reason generates log entries (and we hope it does). In that case, you may need to look at ALL of the log entries. If the dropout occurs somewhere near when the timestamps get funky, that's a good indication that the clock changes are causing it. Just why should be revealed in the log entries. I'm just spitballing this. The cause may be totally unrelated. As always, troubleshooting sporadic things of this nature remotely (even locally) is difficult--especially when you can only look at one end of the connection (VPN server logs, if available, would be useful). I suspect the time shift isn't an issue, as I'm starting the vpn's from within KDE where I thought the time shift has already taken place, plus journalctl seems to be indicating that the time shift has taken place before chronyd has started. The vpn I'm using, which operates through Openvpn, has servers all over the world, and you configure it for the one you want to use. I've tried the one closest to Australia that gives the best performance (being Singapore) and the one they recommend (being Miami) and they both behave the same way. The vpn is started, NetworkManager indicates the vpn is "active" (by placing a lock icon on top of the network icon in the system tray), it stays in that state for about 30 seconds according to journalctl and then it logs a terminate message, and it takes about a further 30 seconds for the vpn to actually shutdown. I've changed a couple of parameters in the config, so I'll see whether they have any impact, but at the moment I'm using Linux fairly infrequently. regards, Steve -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the - - reader...who doesn't get it. - -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedo
Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?
On 12/5/18 4:41 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > The vpn I'm using, which operates through Openvpn, has servers all over the > world Kindly tell us which VPN service you are using. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 15:28:13 -0500 Fred Smith wrote: > there seems to be a widespread desire to make UIs so minimal that > no one can figure out how to use them. Not to single out anyone, but > the Gnome-3 people seem to be on that bandwagon too. No offense meant > to any particular person(s), its just that I don't see the value in > oversimplification. I think it is because of mobiles. The developers try to fit things on the small real estate, and so make things deeper. It's the problem with having the same interface for desktops, laptops, and mobiles. They are trying to build a single interface that can be used on all platforms versus having an interface optimized for each platform, for people who switch between platforms often. I presume they think the learning curve for multiple platform interfaces is more costly than the diminished user interface on larger screens. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/4/18 1:54 PM, stan wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 15:28:13 -0500 > Fred Smith wrote: > >> there seems to be a widespread desire to make UIs so minimal that >> no one can figure out how to use them. Not to single out anyone, but >> the Gnome-3 people seem to be on that bandwagon too. No offense meant >> to any particular person(s), its just that I don't see the value in >> oversimplification. > > I think it is because of mobiles. The developers try to fit things on > the small real estate, and so make things deeper. It's the problem > with having the same interface for desktops, laptops, and mobiles. > They are trying to build a single interface that can be used on all > platforms versus having an interface optimized for each platform, for > people who switch between platforms often. I presume they think the > learning curve for multiple platform interfaces is more costly than the > diminished user interface on larger screens. I think attempted standardization is a factor. I also think a lot of it is laziness in supporting multiple displays. The problem I see is at this point the symbols are getting far too abstract for many people and there seems to be no steering group that accepts comments or complaints. After all, an icon's purpose is to obviate textual explanations. Obscure icons defeat that intent. Perhaps it's just better to harass the developers. The problem is they've gotten very good at ignoring user comments. I remember the old, symbolic UK "Road Work" signs. Some (such as myself) saw them as stick figures with shovels. Some saw them as stick figures fighting with cranky umbrellas (those in the UK know what I mean). From context, it was always clear that they were shovels. I mean, why on Earth would you need a sign next to the M5 to warn people about bad umbrellas anyway? But I'm an engineer, so I suppose I don't think like most people. :-p While I'm not a fan of bureaucracy in any form, it might be time for ANSI or ISC to create a committee to address UI issues such as this. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.- -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/04/18 16:54, stan wrote: I presume they think the learning curve for multiple platform interfaces is more costly than the diminished user interface on larger screens. . I wonder if a stabdard set of three letter abbreviations might not be better ... -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box83 FEDORA-29/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
luks root partition and grub opens it using usb - how to?
hi guys I wonder if it is possible to have a passphrase to the root partition on a usb/sd and tell the grub to check and use it and if that fails then fall back to user providing the passphrase, as normally by the means of keyboard. Would you know if that works and if there is any doc/manual for it? many thanks, L. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On 12/5/18 6:34 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > I mean, why on > Earth would you need a sign next to the M5 to warn people about bad > umbrellas anyway? High wind area ahead, obviously. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
persistant soundcard image on desktop. Fedora 29
Intermittently an image, approximately 1.5"x1.5" appears in the center of the desktop, covering whatever application is running. The image contains a "sketch" of (presumably) a sound card and a label "Built In analog digital stereo ( IEC958)". Sometimes the image stays on the screen for extended periods of time, and sometimes it seems to appear and then disappear. (It of course stays there for a long time when I am trying to see what is under it in the application.) This is a deal breaker! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 17:35:10 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 12/04/18 16:54, stan wrote: > > I presume they think the > > learning curve for multiple platform interfaces is more costly than > > the diminished user interface on larger screens. > . > I wonder if a stabdard set of three letter abbreviations might not be > better ... > sure, and maybe a crash report abbreviation could suggest Which Thing Failed, which would make a handy acronym... d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. - Ursula Le Guin ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Evince has no print option -
Tom Horsley writes: On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:53:27 +0100 Louis Lagendijk wrote: > Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in > the top row I think they held a contest to see who could come up with a design to most effectively hide the controls for evince. Took me about 20 minutes to find it when I first wanted to print something in new evince. Try okular. Comes with some KDE baggage, and the startup is a bit slower, but it beats the pants off evince, IMO. It actually opens PDFs at a reasonable magnification level. It feels like a real desktop application, instead of something bolted on top of libX11. PgUp and PgDn keys actually work intuitively. The search function does not actually begin at some random part of the document. I used evince for many years, before finally giving up fighting with its navigation and idiosynchronies. Based on this thread, it looks like I don't really have any need to take another look at it. pgpFh6fxmoJKo.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: e-mail security.
Tim: >> Look in the View menu, inside the Layout section, enable the Show >> Status Bar item. Howard Howell: > It shows 4 options, all checked. What did you think I would find > there? Amongst other options, the one I just described... If you do have a "Show Status Bar" item in the list, try un-ticking and re-ticking it. Another thing that springs to mind: Have you resized the window, and pushed the bottom half of it off the screen, or behind other parts of the GUI? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.16.11-100.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 22 20:02:12 UTC 2018 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Damn, I didn't mean to press *that* button! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
