Re: Ip route issues

[Jarmo Hurri]

Ed Greshko  writes:

> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_redirects
>
> and make sure you get
>
> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_source_route
> 0

That didn't help, because for some (weird?) reason after setting
accept_redirects=0 for all, my system still had accept_redirects=1 for
em1. However, setting accept_redirects=0 for em1 seems to have helped,
at least in a short test. So thanks a bunch!

Can you explain what is happening here? I am assuming that Windows has
this configured suitably in the first place, and that is why I am seeing
the issue in Linux only.

Jarmo

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Re: Impossible to add a remote printer

[Thomas Woerner]

On 02/02/2015 05:55 PM, poma wrote:

On 02.02.2015 17:49, poma wrote:

On 02.02.2015 17:36, Tim Waugh wrote:

On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 17:32 +0100, poma wrote:

can this mechanism be improved in the way when you chose not to want
to share the printer that the relevant port is closed?


Is there a sane way of doing that though? I think applications wanting
to 'reset' ports for a zone would need to know what the default was to
start with.

Tim.
*/



I really do not understand what should be an obstacle. :)
Just to close the port that is no longer used, the same way that we opened.



Mister Woerner, Popelka care to comment?
Perhaps I missed some technicalities related.


I think it would make sense to be able to see if ipp* was enabled in the 
initial configuration of a zone. Right now this is not possible.


We might be able to add interfaces to get initial zone, service etc. 
configuration settings.


Regards,
Thomas
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5tFTW: FESCo Vote, Fedora Swag, Stats, Job Opening, and CentOS & EPEL (2015-02-03)

[Matthew Miller]

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to keep up with everything that
goes on. This series highlights interesting happenings in five
different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just
quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for
February 3rd, 2015:


Vote now in FESCo Elections
---

The election for Fedora 22 – Fedora 23 members of FESCo (the Fedora
Engineering Steering Committee) is now open (through 00:00 February 4th
— note that that’s *today*, Tuesday, February 3rd — and early evening in
the United States). Read interviews with candidates here:

-   Debarshi Ray (rishi)
* 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fesco-elections-interview-with-debarshi-ray-rishi/
  
-   Parag Nemade (paragan)
* 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fesco-elections-interview-with-parag-nemade-paragan/

-   Tomas Hozza (thozza)
* 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fesco-elections-interview-with-tomas-hozza-thozza/

-   David King (amigadave)
* 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fesco-elections-interview-with-david-king-amigadave/

-   Kevin Fenzi (nirik)
* 
http://fedoramagazine.org/fesco-elections-interview-with-kevin-fenzi-nirik/

Adam Jackson (ajax) and Alberto Ruiz (aruiz) are also running but no
interviews area available. See the Elections wiki for each candidates’
self-nomination. Read the interviews, and then vote!

(Note that the Environments and Stacks Working Group had a number
candidates equal to the number of open slots, and so decided no
election is necessary for that group.)

  * 
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations&oldid=401340
  * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting
  * 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2015-January/000667.html


Get Swag from the Fedora Store!
---

Thanks to Ruth Suehle, we now have an official store for Fedora-branded
swag. As Ruth explains, we’re leveraging Red Hat’s “Cool Stuff Store”
for this, because it helps us with legal obligations as well as
inventory and financial requirements. This is a sort of trial run, with
four items to start. If it’s successful, we can have more (and possibly
look at expanding to other countries — we are very aware that the
current international shipping prices are… not great).

(I see that many shirt sizes are already out of stock, so that’s a good
sign!)

Also note: these items are priced at our cost; Red Hat and Fedora
aren’t making any money this way (we really can’t, even if we wanted
to). It’s just an easy way for you to get Fedora-branded gear.

  * https://redhat.corpmerchandise.com/ProductList.aspx?did=20588
  * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2015-January/003251.html


Fedora Job Opening: Infrastructure Engineer
---

The Fedora Infrastructure team headed by Paul Frields has a new opening!
See the Red Hat Jobs page for full details, but the quick summary is
that we’re looking for a software engineer / programmer with experience
in continuous delivery to help the Release Engineering team build the
next generation of the tools we use to produce Fedora.

The job listing came out highly slanted towards Project Atomic, as that
is the current hotness, but don’t expect to be pigeonholed there. Do you
have experience as a site reliability engineer? Is your instinct to
develop systems to pass arbitrary condiments? Have you been doing
actual devops for so long that you just sigh about how the term is used
today? Does Fedora’s six-month release cycle seem disturbingly slow —
and you know what to do about it? This may be the job for you!

(Note that the job is listed as in Raleigh, North Carolina, but we are
open to applicants worldwide.)

  * 
http://jobs.redhat.com/jobs/descriptions/lead-engineer-fedora-project-atomic-infrastructure-raleigh-north-carolina-job-1-5092722
  * http://xkcd.com/974/


Fedora Yum Connection Stats
---

More on this later, but here’s a chart Stephen Smoogen put together for
my presentations at FOSDEM and DevConf.cz:

> http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/fedora-os-all-mov_avg-1024x363.png

The data counts updates-mirror connections from the same IP address a
single time a day. Smooge notes that a large number of caveats should be
considered, including changing use of NAT over time and increasingly
short DHCP leases. Also, this almost exclusively counts North America
and Europe, where cheap always-on Internet is commonplace. And, of
course, it only counts systems which actually check for updates
regularly; many don’t.

So, with all of those caveats aside, there are some interesting points.

There’s a general third/third/third split in updating: when new Fedora
release comes out, a third of users update almost immediately, another
third update by end-of-life when the “N+1″ release is out, and the final
third are end up as a long tail which persists forever.

The chart basically starts with

Re: Ip route issues

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/03/15 17:56, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
> Ed Greshko  writes:
>
>> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_redirects
>>
>> and make sure you get
>>
>> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_source_route
>> 0
> That didn't help, because for some (weird?) reason after setting
> accept_redirects=0 for all, my system still had accept_redirects=1 for
> em1. However, setting accept_redirects=0 for em1 seems to have helped,
> at least in a short test. So thanks a bunch!

An IP redirect is sent by a (typically) router when it determines that a packet 
it has received would be better routed by an alternate path and it informs the 
source by sending it an ICMP redirect.  In this case, it would seem your system 
received a redirect telling your system that 91.198.174.192 is directly 
connected to em1.

I would use wireshark to try and trap ICMP messages looking for the source of 
the redirects.

> Can you explain what is happening here? I am assuming that Windows has
> this configured suitably in the first place, and that is why I am seeing
> the issue in Linux only.
>

I don't know anything about Windows and what they do.  Sorry.


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Re: DHCP Reservations

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 02/03/2015 02:01 AM, Tim wrote:

Robert Moskowitz:

What you are missing is how the lease is released.  There is no, 'drop
this lease' operation that can occur, say, when your system goes into
suspend mode.  Or you simply walk out of radio range.

While I agree that "losing signal" has no way to gracefully log out, I
would have thought that going into suspend ought to log off the network
on the way out.

I have checked my DHCP report from another machine and it shows me still 
assigned the address.



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Re: DHCP Reservations

[poma]

On 03.02.2015 08:01, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 11:20 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> Quick question about DHCP reservations: I have laptops with both wired
>> and wireless NICs, is it okay to have the router assign the same IP to
>> both interface?
> 
> I seem to recall being able to do that, with the DHCP server on my
> Fedora Core 4 installation (having two separate MAC matching clauses
> that applied the same IP).  Other servers may try to prevent you doing
> that, as it can be problematic.
> 
> The client behaviour could be a bit wierd, especially if the client
> doesn't completely bring down the interface that previously had the same
> IP.  On some clients, plugging in a cable doesn't disable or override
> the wireless.  You'd have to manually do so.
> 
> And lease expiry time wasn't an issue, that would only apply if I was
> hoping for a dynamically supplied IP to be re-supplied.  My
> configuration was fixed IPs doled out by the DHCP server.  So if your
> MAC matched, you were assigned that IP, as long as something else didn't
> prevent it.
> 

The combination of the same IP address on two different network interfaces is 
prohibited for obvious reasons. At least via the WebUI.
But no one defends leave one network interface on the router DHCP static leas, 
and make local static profile with the same IP with other network interface, 
making sure that both interfaces are not simultaneously in operation.
However if someone decides to do the same on the LAN, there goes a trouble.
Also not to be excluded, in the absence of a morning dose of caffeine, the one 
that set the same address at the two interfaces can confuse imself.
All in all it's just a call to the circus.

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Re: DHCP Reservations

[Tim]

Jim Lewis wrote:
>> Quick question about DHCP reservations: I have laptops with both
>> wired and wireless NICs, is it okay to have the router assign the
>> same IP to both interface?

I wrote:
> I seem to recall being able to do that, with the DHCP server on my
> Fedora Core 4 installation (having two separate MAC matching clauses
> that applied the same IP).  Other servers may try to prevent you doing
> that, as it can be problematic.

Just following up, since I wasn't clear.  My comment was along the same
lines as the original poster, trying to see what would happen if I
assigned the same IP to wireless or wired network interfaces on my
laptop, where only one of them would be active at any one time.

The reason I tried, was that it was annoying having changing addresses,
one way or another.  Whether that was the IP address, or the named
address attached to the current IP.

For instance, my hostname might be wired.example.com or
wireless.example.com, because the IP changed.  Either change brought
about their own set of nuisances.

And, no, the common Fedora approach of associating your desired machine
hostname against 127.0.0.1 is not a sensible alternative, either.

Having multiple interfaces is a nuisance, and the best I could come up
with was having to use the GUI to manually disconnect one device or the
other, not letting any automatic system attempt it.

A whole slew of other problems came about should both interfaces be up
and active at the same time.

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Re: DHCP Reservations

[Andrew R Paterson]

On Wednesday 04 February 2015 00:55:29 Tim wrote:
> Jim Lewis wrote:
> >> Quick question about DHCP reservations: I have laptops with both
> >> wired and wireless NICs, is it okay to have the router assign the
> >> same IP to both interface?
> 
> I wrote:
> > I seem to recall being able to do that, with the DHCP server on my
> > Fedora Core 4 installation (having two separate MAC matching clauses
> > that applied the same IP).  Other servers may try to prevent you doing
> > that, as it can be problematic.
> 
> Just following up, since I wasn't clear.  My comment was along the same
> lines as the original poster, trying to see what would happen if I
> assigned the same IP to wireless or wired network interfaces on my
> laptop, where only one of them would be active at any one time.
> 
> The reason I tried, was that it was annoying having changing addresses,
> one way or another.  Whether that was the IP address, or the named
> address attached to the current IP.
> 
> For instance, my hostname might be wired.example.com or
> wireless.example.com, because the IP changed.  Either change brought
> about their own set of nuisances.
> 
> And, no, the common Fedora approach of associating your desired machine
> hostname against 127.0.0.1 is not a sensible alternative, either.
> 
> Having multiple interfaces is a nuisance, and the best I could come up
> with was having to use the GUI to manually disconnect one device or the
> other, not letting any automatic system attempt it.
> 
> A whole slew of other problems came about should both interfaces be up
> and active at the same time.
Surely "hot-swapping" IP addresses between interfaces wont work very well, 
since forgetting DHCP its ARP that will cause a problem.
Each previously communicating host will have a MAC address logged in its ARP 
table for the offending IP address.
If the IP address changes MAC addresses, the ARP entries on all other hosts 
must time-out in order to be renewed via an ARP broadcast.

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Re: DHCP Reservations

[Roger Heflin]

On both a dd-wrt and a recent asus router I have successfully got the
older bonding module to bring up wireless and wired in a
active/passive mode (wired is active if there).  Both interfaces
would have the same IP and mac address and I can unplug the wired and
immediately have it switch over to wireless with no obvious drops.
I can also switch back to a wired connection with no drops (usually
done in the middle of a big data transfer to speed it up). This is
outside of network manager, and was a major pain to get it working
consistently after a reboot, but I believe it now works consistently
on reboots.I believe the bonding module does force arps when it
switches interfaces.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Andrew R Paterson
 wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 February 2015 00:55:29 Tim wrote:
>> Jim Lewis wrote:
>> >> Quick question about DHCP reservations: I have laptops with both
>> >> wired and wireless NICs, is it okay to have the router assign the
>> >> same IP to both interface?
>>
>> I wrote:
>> > I seem to recall being able to do that, with the DHCP server on my
>> > Fedora Core 4 installation (having two separate MAC matching clauses
>> > that applied the same IP).  Other servers may try to prevent you doing
>> > that, as it can be problematic.
>>
>> Just following up, since I wasn't clear.  My comment was along the same
>> lines as the original poster, trying to see what would happen if I
>> assigned the same IP to wireless or wired network interfaces on my
>> laptop, where only one of them would be active at any one time.
>>
>> The reason I tried, was that it was annoying having changing addresses,
>> one way or another.  Whether that was the IP address, or the named
>> address attached to the current IP.
>>
>> For instance, my hostname might be wired.example.com or
>> wireless.example.com, because the IP changed.  Either change brought
>> about their own set of nuisances.
>>
>> And, no, the common Fedora approach of associating your desired machine
>> hostname against 127.0.0.1 is not a sensible alternative, either.
>>
>> Having multiple interfaces is a nuisance, and the best I could come up
>> with was having to use the GUI to manually disconnect one device or the
>> other, not letting any automatic system attempt it.
>>
>> A whole slew of other problems came about should both interfaces be up
>> and active at the same time.
> Surely "hot-swapping" IP addresses between interfaces wont work very well,
> since forgetting DHCP its ARP that will cause a problem.
> Each previously communicating host will have a MAC address logged in its ARP
> table for the offending IP address.
> If the IP address changes MAC addresses, the ARP entries on all other hosts
> must time-out in order to be renewed via an ARP broadcast.
>
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Re: DHCP Reservations

[poma]

On 03.02.2015 16:20, Roger Heflin wrote:
> On both a dd-wrt and a recent asus router I have successfully got the
> older bonding module to bring up wireless and wired in a
> active/passive mode (wired is active if there).  Both interfaces
> would have the same IP and mac address and I can unplug the wired and
> immediately have it switch over to wireless with no obvious drops.
> I can also switch back to a wired connection with no drops (usually
> done in the middle of a big data transfer to speed it up). This is
> outside of network manager, and was a major pain to get it working
> consistently after a reboot, but I believe it now works consistently
> on reboots.I believe the bonding module does force arps when it
> switches interfaces.
> 

root@DD-WRT:~# grep -i bond /lib/modules/3.2.66/modules.* ; echo $?
1

Where the bonding module should be? :)



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Re: Impossible to add a remote printer

[poma]

On 03.02.2015 11:07, Thomas Woerner wrote:
> On 02/02/2015 05:55 PM, poma wrote:
>> On 02.02.2015 17:49, poma wrote:
>>> On 02.02.2015 17:36, Tim Waugh wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 17:32 +0100, poma wrote:
> can this mechanism be improved in the way when you chose not to want
> to share the printer that the relevant port is closed?

 Is there a sane way of doing that though? I think applications wanting
 to 'reset' ports for a zone would need to know what the default was to
 start with.

 Tim.
 */

>>>
>>> I really do not understand what should be an obstacle. :)
>>> Just to close the port that is no longer used, the same way that we opened.
>>>
>>
>> Mister Woerner, Popelka care to comment?
>> Perhaps I missed some technicalities related.
>>
>>
> I think it would make sense to be able to see if ipp* was enabled in the 
> initial configuration of a zone. Right now this is not possible.
> 
> We might be able to add interfaces to get initial zone, service etc. 
> configuration settings.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas
> 

I think I understand, but I also think that I did not understand.
Cogito ergo sum.


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Re: initscripts

[poma]

On 03.02.2015 14:16, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote:
> poma píše v Čt 22. 01. 2015 v 18:44 +0100:
>> Lukáš 'Allo 'Allo
>>
>> I see that some people are trying to "modernize" Fedora.
>> But what about RHEL relictum - initscripts, particularly now that we have 
>> NetworkManager/ModemManager and systemd-networkd, 
>> when will this package "fall off"?
>>
>>
>> poma
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry for late answer, I don't read fedora-devel that often.
> I will not speak about NM, it has it's own use-cases and users.
> Long-term plan is to remove networking part of initscripts and remove
> rest of the package elsewhere (in that part kudos to Zbigniew already
> moved some stuff to systemd package).
> I think that networkd will hopefully substitute initscripts in minimal
> setups, but we are far from there yet. Kdbus is prerequisite to proper
> networkctl. I am working on generator to read ifcfg files and transform
> them to network, netdev, links files. Michal is looking to team support
> to networkd and so on.
> Meanwhile I don't see why I could not fix some bugs and make the package
> more complaint to fedora guidelines.
> 
> I hope that answers your question.
> 
> Lukas
> 


Thanks for your reply.
I have yet to consider.


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Re: Mediacast to TV - MiracleCast - Open-Source Miracast - Wifi-Display on linux

[poma]

On 02.02.2015 19:58, David Herrmann wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, poma  wrote:
>> MiracleCast - Howto
>> "Current State"
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> Can folks from the NetworkManager team & systemd-networkd team answer 
>> regarding the current status in this matter?
> 
> As people continuously ask me about this, I'll just try to answer it
> on the public ML:
> 
> To make Miracast work, we need access to a Wifi P2P API. The kernel
> implements Wifi P2P and wpa_supplicant provides access to it via it's
> ctrl-interface (and I think recently even gained a dbus API). In
> MiracleCast I wrote a miracle-wifid daemon that wraps wpa_supplicant
> and provides P2P to MircaleCast. However, this does not work well in
> parallel to NetworkManager/wicd/connman/... running. You really cannot
> run wpa_supplicant multiple times on the same interface. Hence,
> MiracleCast development is currently stalled until the different
> network-managers provide a P2P API.
> 

Are you for to make the request for improvement towards NetworkManager?

> Intel recently added such an API to ConnMan and provides a WFD
> implementation on its own [1]. I highly recommend looking into it.
> It's now up to NetworkManager to catch up. systemd-networkd doesn't do
> L2 setup, so it's not really related. wicd is kinda dead [2], so I
> doubt they'll come up with something.
> 
> Furthermore, P2P support is pretty "limited" right now. Officially,
> almost all recent devices support it, but it's particularly annoying
> to set it up, due to major bugs across all the stacks (in no way
> limited to linux drivers). I mean, 3 of 4 of my connection attempts
> between Android and Windows devices fails.. not even talking about my
> wpa_supplicant hacks.
> 

Thank you for your comprehensive explanation!

> As I'm not really interested in hacking on network-managers, I've
> decided to stop working on MiracleCast. If, some day, there's a
> working P2P stack on linux, I might resurrect it. But it sounds more
> likely that I'll refer to the Intel solution (WYSIWIDI) instead.
> There're also gstreamer plugins for WFD now, so maybe give them a try?
> 

gst-rtsp-server-wfd
https://github.com/Samsung/gst-rtsp-server-wfd/blob/master/README.md

Pre-conditions:

This module is running on established p2p connection with wifi direct, which 
means that you have to setup this network environment to run this module. I 
hope this link would be very helpful. ( 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~dvdhrm/miracle )

You are referring to them, they are referring to you. :)

> Thanks
> David
> 
> [1] https://github.com/01org/wysiwidi
> [2] https://answers.launchpad.net/wicd/+question/227789
> 

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Re: Adding a file share service to Thunderbird

[jd1008]

On 02/01/2015 10:30 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 02/01/2015 09:34 PM, jd1008 wrote:

On 02/01/2015 08:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 02/01/2015 08:43 PM, jd1008 wrote:

On 02/01/2015 04:11 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 02/01/2015 04:04 PM, jd1008 wrote:

On 02/01/2015 02:57 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 01/31/2015 10:12 PM, jd1008 wrote:

Often I want to attach a file that is larger than what google will
allow,
a limit I configured in TB. And TB will prompt me to use a file
share
service.

The problem is I do not want to use the 2 file share services that
TB is
showing,
and none of the add-on have my preferred file share server.

Has anyone somehow overcome this "apparent" limitation of TB, and
configured
TB to use a file share service other than what TB and the plugins
(add-ons)
provide?


It would help if you told us what your preferred file share
service is.


I subscribe to a few free ones.
But just for an example, try sendspace.com, among
others.
I see no way to make TB use sendspace and prompt me
for my user id and passwd on the chosen provider,
and upload the file I just tried to attach to a message,
and if too large, TB prompts the
user to use a share service.


I'm using Dropbox with it via the addon dropbox-for-filelink.  These
seem to be the only supported services:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/filelink-large-attachments


I did indeed install dropbox, and restarted TB.
It still does not show dropbox as one of the share
services.
So, perhaps you could clue me in on how to make it work.


I installed this:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/dropbox-for-filelink/


I tried to install it. TB's Tools->Add-On->Get Extensions shows this
banner:

Secure connection failed

An error occurred during a connection to services.addons.mozilla.org.
Peer's Certificate has been revoked. (Error code:
sec_error_revoked_certificate)

 The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
 Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

 Try again



But I was able to download it using FF and installed it on TB

But attaching a large file and clicking on Link on battom bar that
appears on TB
still does not list dropbox as an option to upload to.




I just attach a file normally. If it's over the size set in preferences,
then TB asks me if I want to send a link

http://imgur.com/mhd0C4k


I tried it. When I "authenticate" with my email address and pword,
it just spins forever.
Yet, when I login via FF, my login works just fine.

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Re: mdadm: Cannot get exclusive access to /dev/md127

[Rick Stevens]

On 02/02/2015 06:32 PM, Rich Emberson wrote:

Tried:

# wipefs -a /dev/md127

which did not word, so I next tried:

# wipefs -f -a  /dev/md127
/dev/md127: 6 bytes were erased at offset 0x (crypto_LUKS): 4c
55 4b 53 ba be

and then

# mdadm  -S /dev/md127
mdadm: Cannot get exclusive access to /dev/md127:Perhaps a running
process, mounted filesystem or active volume group?

but the filesystem is still mounted.


Wiping a filesystem (and certainly using a force option) is a bad idea
if the filesystem is mounted. You should have unmounted it before you
did the wipefs, but I'm sure you knew that.

"lsof +d /mountpoint" or "lsof +D /mountpoint" should show you what is
using the filesystem if a "umount" doesn't work. In dire straits, you
could try "umount -f" to force an unmount, but again if something is
using the filesystem, that could be bad.

Also, just in case you're using LVM, make sure you disable/delete any
logical volumes in the volume group ("lvchange" and "lvremove") and
disable/delete the volume group as well ("vgchange" and "vgremove").
I'd also recommend destroying the PVs associated with the deleted VGs
before you try to delete the RAID.


curious, that creating an encrypted raid system on fedora seems to be an
irreversible action.


IIRC, it's a one-way encryption of the data. If that's the case, of
course it's irreversible. If you're talking about not being able to get
rid of an encrypted filesystem, you're just not doing it correctly. All
filesystems can be deleted unless there's something specific in the
hardware that prevents it (protected partitions of FLASH drives, for
example).


Now, with part of the raid file system "wipefs"-ed, above, I fear
rebooting and hanging when it does not come up.


Make sure the filesystem is not in your /etc/fstab file (or has the
mount option "noauto") so the system doesn't try to mount it on the
reboot.
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yum update errors wine-core

[Paul Cartwright]

Is this just me, or should I wait for package updates??
updated fedora21 x86_64 ..
when I try to update I get:
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: wine-core-1.7.35-3.1.i686 (@home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight)
   Requires: libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
   Removing: libgphoto2-2.5.3-9.fc21.i686 (@fedora)
   libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
   Updated By: libgphoto2-2.5.7-1.fc21.i686 (updates)
  ~libgphoto2_port.so.12(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
Error: Package: wine-core-1.7.35-3.1.x86_64 (@home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight)
   Requires: libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)(64bit)
   Removing: libgphoto2-2.5.3-9.fc21.x86_64
(@koji-override-0/$releasever)
   libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)(64bit)
   Updated By: libgphoto2-2.5.7-1.fc21.x86_64 (updates)
  ~libgphoto2_port.so.12(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)(64bit)
Error: Package: wine-core-1.7.35-3.1.i686 (@home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight)
   Requires: libgphoto2_port.so.10
   Removing: libgphoto2-2.5.3-9.fc21.i686 (@fedora)
   libgphoto2_port.so.10
   Updated By: libgphoto2-2.5.7-1.fc21.i686 (updates)
  ~libgphoto2_port.so.12
Error: Package: wine-core-1.7.35-3.1.x86_64 (@home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight)
   Requires: libgphoto2_port.so.10()(64bit)
   Removing: libgphoto2-2.5.3-9.fc21.x86_64
(@koji-override-0/$releasever)
   libgphoto2_port.so.10()(64bit)
   Updated By: libgphoto2-2.5.7-1.fc21.x86_64 (updates)
  ~libgphoto2_port.so.12()(64bit)
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem

whats wrong?

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Re: F20: No sound unless root ??

[Rick Stevens]

On 02/02/2015 05:22 PM, sean darcy wrote:

On 02/02/2015 03:23 PM, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:

2015-02-02 22:18 GMT+02:00 sean darcy :

On 02/02/2015 03:10 PM, sean darcy wrote:


I'm trying to play some sound as a user. But pulseaudio can't find any
outputs:

$ aplay -l
aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...

But, as root, aplay sees the integrated sound card:





How are you logged in in the system? My impression is that sound
devices in fedora are set up to be available to the user who is
physically present.

-Joonas



This should be remote user. I want to use it as a sound server from
anywhere in the house.

This should be common use case. What's the trick to making it work, or
does someone need to go the the basement each time ?


The desktop install of Fedora should permit whomever is logged in at
the console to play audio. If you don't have a user logged in at the
console, then pulse is probably not even running since it's spawned
by the X session startup.

You can run pulse at boot as the root user to make it act like a sound
server, but you'll need to configure it to use various sinks as outputs.
Have a look at "man pulse-daemon.conf", "man default.pa" and
"man pulse-cli-syntax" for details on how to set that up.

If you want a media server (e.g. DLNA), then there are a number of
packages available such as minidlna and mediatomb (both available from
the repos).
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Re: What are *.xz compressed kernel modules for (Fedora 21)

[Stephen Morris]

On 02/03/2015 06:34 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote:

Hi,

I have Fedora 21 (x86_64).
Under /usr/lib/modules/3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64/kernel, all the kernel
module are in compressed form.
(xz files).
Under
  /usr/lib/modules/3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64/kernel, the kernel modules
are in the *.ko form

What are the *.xz compressed kernel modules for ? In fedora 20 we had
only *.ko files under /lib/modules.

It seems to me that after booting, when running modprobe, only the
*.ko modules are used.

Just wonder what would happen If I would (accidentally or by purpose)
delete the /lib/modules folder in fedora 21 (I don't intend to do it
before getting an answer here...)

I would not delete /lib/modules otherwise the kernel would fail I suspect.
/lib is not a physical directory as such, /lib is a point to /usr/lib, 
so when you do a ls /lib/modules what you are listing is actually 
/usr/lib/modules.


Regards,
Kevin


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Re: yum update errors wine-core

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:23:41 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> Is this just me, or should I wait for package updates??
> updated fedora21 x86_64 ..
> when I try to update I get:
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Package: wine-core-1.7.35-3.1.i686 (@home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight)
>Requires: libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
>Removing: libgphoto2-2.5.3-9.fc21.i686 (@fedora)
>libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
>Updated By: libgphoto2-2.5.7-1.fc21.i686 (updates)
>   ~libgphoto2_port.so.12(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
 
> whats wrong?

You're using an incompatible repository  @home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight
which is out-of-date compared with Fedora 21:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/wine
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Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Robert Moskowitz]

www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date 
with security risks so it won't display any video news.  Go and update 
your flash player.


On this F21 system I am using:

adobe-linux-x86_64.repo

which has in it:

baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/

yum.log shows:

Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64

So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy camper.  
There have been a couple other sites complaining as well. Even one that 
said my version of Firefox was out of date, but that was only a warning.



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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Steven Stern]

On 02/03/2015 03:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date
> with security risks so it won't display any video news.  Go and update
> your flash player.
> 
> On this F21 system I am using:
> 
> adobe-linux-x86_64.repo
> 
> which has in it:
> 
> baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/
> 
> yum.log shows:
> 
> Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
> Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64
> 
> So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy camper. 
> There have been a couple other sites complaining as well. Even one that
> said my version of Firefox was out of date, but that was only a warning.
> 
> 
CNN works with Chrome.

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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[inode0]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date
> with security risks so it won't display any video news.  Go and update your
> flash player.
>
> On this F21 system I am using:
>
> adobe-linux-x86_64.repo
>
> which has in it:
>
> baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/
>
> yum.log shows:
>
> Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
> Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64
>
> So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy camper.  There
> have been a couple other sites complaining as well. Even one that said my
> version of Firefox was out of date, but that was only a warning.

There is another exploit in the wild that adobe expects to fix with
another release sometime this week.

John
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Re: yum update errors wine-core-SOLVED

[Paul Cartwright]

On 02/03/2015 03:24 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:23:41 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>
>> Is this just me, or should I wait for package updates??
>> updated fedora21 x86_64 ..
>> when I try to update I get:
>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>> Error: Package: wine-core-1.7.35-3.1.i686 (@home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight)
>>Requires: libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
>>Removing: libgphoto2-2.5.3-9.fc21.i686 (@fedora)
>>libgphoto2_port.so.10(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
>>Updated By: libgphoto2-2.5.7-1.fc21.i686 (updates)
>>   ~libgphoto2_port.so.12(LIBGPHOTO2_5_0)
>  
>> whats wrong?
> You're using an incompatible repository  @home_DarkPlayer_Pipelight
> which is out-of-date compared with Fedora 21:
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/wine
thank you!
I think that might have been for Picasa.. not sure, but I removed it..

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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Tom Rivers]

On 2/3/2015 16:47, Steven Stern wrote:

CNN works with Chrome.


That's because Flash is baked into the browser itself: 
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en



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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 02/03/2015 04:48 PM, inode0 wrote:

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date
with security risks so it won't display any video news.  Go and update your
flash player.

On this F21 system I am using:

adobe-linux-x86_64.repo

which has in it:

baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/

yum.log shows:

Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64

So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy camper.  There
have been a couple other sites complaining as well. Even one that said my
version of Firefox was out of date, but that was only a warning.

There is another exploit in the wild that adobe expects to fix with
another release sometime this week.


I have a limited use of flash.  For sites like cnn.  Well, I think one 
of my banks uses it for their home page...



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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[inode0]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> On 02/03/2015 04:48 PM, inode0 wrote:
>> There is another exploit in the wild that adobe expects to fix with
>> another release sometime this week.
>
>
> I have a limited use of flash.  For sites like cnn.  Well, I think one of my
> banks uses it for their home page...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188329

I'd just take a few flash free days until adobe gets it fixed to be a
little safer.

John
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Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[Richard Shaw]

I'm troubleshooting some video problems with a used laptop I got for cheap.

For the day is was pretty nice, Dell Latitude D620 with Nvidia Quadro
graphics (the problem I'm troubleshooting).

I was looking through the journal when I saw this shortly after logging in:

Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd-logind[676]: Removed session
c1.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Default.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Default.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Basic System.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Basic
System.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Paths.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Paths.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Timers.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Timers.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Sockets.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Sockets.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Shutdown.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Reached target
Shutdown.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Exit the
Session...
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Received SIGRTMIN+24
from PID 2173 (kill).

Why does systemd think I'm trying to shut down the computer right after
logging in?

The computer doesn't actually shut down and I'll get a usable desktop after
what I assumed was a hard lock but it takes well over 5 minutes, I haven't
put a stopwatch to it.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: F21 - WiFi not connecting

[poma]

On 02.02.2015 21:42, poma wrote:
> On 02.02.2015 21:19, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>> On 02/02/2015 01:30 PM, poma wrote:
>>> On 02.02.2015 19:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 On 02/02/2015 01:15 PM, poma wrote:
> And do not forget to
> # systemctl enable rtl8192ce-reload.service
 systemctl enable rtl8192ce-reload.service
 Created symlink from
 /etc/systemd/system/hibernate.target.wants/rtl8192ce-reload.service to
 /etc/systemd/system/rtl8192ce-reload.service.
 Created symlink from
 /etc/systemd/system/suspend.target.wants/rtl8192ce-reload.service to
 /etc/systemd/system/rtl8192ce-reload.service.
 Created symlink from
 /etc/systemd/system/hybrid-sleep.target.wants/rtl8192ce-reload.service
 to /etc/systemd/system/rtl8192ce-reload.service.

 Then tried connecting to WiFi SSID, and did not work.  Is enable
 enough?  Do I also start the service?  Seem to recall that they are
 separate functions?

>>> Not you, but systemd will pull/start rtl8192ce-reload.service as part of 
>>> system S3 RESUME process. :)
>>>
>>> First run the standard reboot
>>> # systemctl reboot
>>
>> ARGH!  I hate to reboot.  That will have to wait until this evening.  I 
>> have a ballot comment resolution call coming up on IEEE 802.15.9, and 
>> being the chair, I got to switch gears to get ready for the call.
>>
> 
> The "service" is to automate the process.
> You can reload module yourself, manually, without systemd assistance.
> # modprobe -rv rtl8192ce && modprobe -v rtl8192ce
> 
> 

Señor de Roberto Carlos, si esto es de ninguna ayuda?


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Re: WiFi - Realtek - rtl8812au

[poma]

Any throughput measurement, any at all? :)


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Re: NETDEV WATCHDOG: internal(r8152): transmit queue 0 timed out

[poma]

On 17.01.2015 09:56, poma wrote:
> On 17.01.2015 00:57, sean darcy wrote:
>> On 01/16/2015 07:09 AM, poma wrote:
>>> On 16.01.2015 10:37, Hayes Wang wrote:
   poma [mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:25 PM
 [...]
>> This looks like a USB problem. Is there a way to get usb (or
>> NetworkManager) to reinitialize the driver when this happens?
>
> I would ask these people for advice, therefore.

 Our hw engineers need to analyse the behavior of the device.
 However, I don't think you have such instrument to provide
 the required information. If we don't know the reason, we
 couldn't give you the proper solution. Besides, your solution
 would work if and only if reloading the driver is helpful.

 The issue have to debug from the hardware, and I have no idea
 about what the software could do before analysing the hw. Maybe
 you could try the following driver first to check if it is useful.

 http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=2&PNid=13&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false

 Best Regards,
 Hayes

>>>
>>> Thanks for your response, Mr. Hayes.
>>>
>>> Mr. Sean, please download and check if "timeout" is still present with 
>>> built RTL8153 module from REALTEK site, as Mr. Hayes proposed.
>>> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=2&PNid=13&PFid=56&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2
>>> r8152.53-2.03.0.tar.bz2
>>>
>>> Procedure - should be equal for both, Fedora 21 & 20:
>>>
>>> $ uname -r
>>> 3.17.8-300.fc21.x86_64
>>>
>>> $ su -c 'yum install kernel-devel'
>>>
>>> $ tar xf r8152.53-2.03.0.tar.bz2
>>> $ cd r8152-2.03.0/
>>> $ make
>>> $ su
>>>
>>> # cp 50-usb-realtek-net.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
>>> # udevadm trigger --action=add
>>>
>>> # modprobe -rv r8152
>>> # cp r8152.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/
>>> # depmod
>>> # modprobe -v r8152
>>>
>>>
>>> poma
>>>
>> OK. Did all that. Now to see if I get the same problem over the next 
>> couple of weeks.
>>
>> I'd never heard about the updates subfolder in modules. Very slick.
>>
>> But when I update the kernel, I get to do this again correct? How will I 
> 
> $ cd r8152-2.03.0/
> $ make clean
> $ make
> $ su
> 
> # cp r8152.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/
> # depmod
> # modprobe -v r8152
> 
> is part of the procedure necessary for a new i.e. an upgraded kernel.
> 
> 
>> know that this module has been incorporated in the running kernel. 
>> modinfo doesn't give any version info.
>>
> 
> $ modinfo r8152 -n
> 
> will show the module considered for loading.
> 
> 
>> BTW, I'm not sure what modprobe --dump-modversions is supposed to do, 
>> but it doesn't:
>>
>> #modprobe --dump-modversions r8152
>> modprobe: FATAL: Module r8152 not found.
>> # modprobe --dump-modversions r8152.ko
>> modprobe: FATAL: Module r8152.ko not found.
>> #lsmod | grep 8152
>> r8152  49646  0
>>
> 
> "--dump-modversions" will probably show the same error for any module.
> 
> 
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
>> sean
>>
> 
> YW
> 
> 
> 

Mr. Sean,
is your problem with r8152 resolved, are
"kernel: r8152 2-2:1.0 internal: Tx timeout"
still present?


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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[jd1008]

On 02/03/2015 04:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I'm troubleshooting some video problems with a used laptop I got for 
cheap.


For the day is was pretty nice, Dell Latitude D620 with Nvidia Quadro 
graphics (the problem I'm troubleshooting).


I was looking through the journal when I saw this shortly after 
logging in:


Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd-logind[676]: Removed 
session c1.

Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Default.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target 
Default.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Basic 
System.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target 
Basic System.

Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Paths.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Paths.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Timers.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target 
Timers.

Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Sockets.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target 
Sockets.

Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Shutdown.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Reached target 
Shutdown.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Exit the 
Session...
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Received 
SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 2173 (kill).


Why does systemd think I'm trying to shut down the computer right 
after logging in?


The computer doesn't actually shut down and I'll get a usable desktop 
after what I assumed was a hard lock but it takes well over 5 minutes, 
I haven't put a stopwatch to it.


Thanks,
Richard



You will always see this in the logs AFTER booting.
All of this "stopping whatever ."
comes AFTER

Starting Plymouth switch root service


Shortly thereafter you should see

SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts
.etc,


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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/04/15 08:23, jd1008 wrote:
>
> On 02/03/2015 04:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>> I'm troubleshooting some video problems with a used laptop I got for cheap.
>>
>> For the day is was pretty nice, Dell Latitude D620 with Nvidia Quadro 
>> graphics (the problem I'm troubleshooting).
>>
>> I was looking through the journal when I saw this shortly after logging in:
>>
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd-logind[676]: Removed session 
>> c1.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Default.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Default.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Basic System.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Basic 
>> System.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Paths.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Paths.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Timers.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Timers.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Sockets.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Sockets.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Shutdown.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Reached target Shutdown.
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Exit the 
>> Session...
>> Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 
>> from PID 2173 (kill).
>>
>> Why does systemd think I'm trying to shut down the computer right after 
>> logging in?
>>
>> The computer doesn't actually shut down and I'll get a usable desktop after 
>> what I assumed was a hard lock but it takes well over 5 minutes, I haven't 
>> put a stopwatch to it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>>
>>
> You will always see this in the logs AFTER booting.
> All of this "stopping whatever ."
> comes AFTER
>
> Starting Plymouth switch root service
> 
>
> Shortly thereafter you should see
>
> SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts
> .etc,
>
>

I don't believe that is true, or normal.

Just after rebooting and logging in.

[egreshko@f21 ~]$ uptime
 09:13:21 up 1 min,  4 users,  load average: 1.19, 0.46, 0.17
[egreshko@f21 ~]$ journalctl -b -0 | grep -i stopping

No entries found

From the previous boot log

[egreshko@f21 ~]$ journalctl -b -1 | grep -i stopping
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Default.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Basic System.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Paths.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Timers.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Sockets.
Feb 04 09:11:40 f21.greshko.com vboxadd[1311]: Stopping VirtualBox Additions [  
OK  ]

09:11:40 being the time of rebooting. 





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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[jd1008]

On 02/03/2015 06:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/04/15 08:23, jd1008 wrote:

On 02/03/2015 04:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:

I'm troubleshooting some video problems with a used laptop I got for cheap.

For the day is was pretty nice, Dell Latitude D620 with Nvidia Quadro graphics 
(the problem I'm troubleshooting).

I was looking through the journal when I saw this shortly after logging in:

Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd-logind[676]: Removed session c1.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Default.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Default.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Basic System.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Basic 
System.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Paths.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Paths.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Timers.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Timers.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopping Sockets.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Stopped target Sockets.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Shutdown.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Reached target Shutdown.
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Starting Exit the 
Session...
Feb 03 17:47:15 localhost.localdomain systemd[1364]: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from 
PID 2173 (kill).

Why does systemd think I'm trying to shut down the computer right after logging 
in?

The computer doesn't actually shut down and I'll get a usable desktop after 
what I assumed was a hard lock but it takes well over 5 minutes, I haven't put 
a stopwatch to it.

Thanks,
Richard



You will always see this in the logs AFTER booting.
All of this "stopping whatever ."
comes AFTER

Starting Plymouth switch root service


Shortly thereafter you should see

SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts
.etc,



I don't believe that is true, or normal.

Just after rebooting and logging in.

[egreshko@f21 ~]$ uptime
  09:13:21 up 1 min,  4 users,  load average: 1.19, 0.46, 0.17
[egreshko@f21 ~]$ journalctl -b -0 | grep -i stopping

No entries found

 From the previous boot log

[egreshko@f21 ~]$ journalctl -b -1 | grep -i stopping
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Default.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Basic System.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Paths.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Timers.
Feb 04 09:11:38 f21.greshko.com systemd[1180]: Stopping Sockets.
Feb 04 09:11:40 f21.greshko.com vboxadd[1311]: Stopping VirtualBox Additions [  
OK  ]

09:11:40 being the time of rebooting.






No Ed.
I see the
Stopping ..etc
live as I am booting!!!
Every time!!!

I still do not quite get what problem the OP is having.
Slowness in and of itself is not necessarily a technical problem.

If the OP has a slow cpu old computer, with (perhaps) a
small amount of RAM and a with (perhaps) slow (4200RPM)
disk drive, then it is going to take a while to finish initializing
all the daemons and hardware until the UI can respond to
user. Also, having a small amount of swap or no swap space
could make things a lot worse :), some apps might not even
start, let alone run.
I hope the OP tells us more about his HW specs and swap size.

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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:43 PM, jd1008  wrote:

> No Ed.
> I see the
> Stopping ..etc
> live as I am booting!!!
> Every time!!!
>

Ok, so it may be normal, but I can't believe it is "right". It just doesn't
make sense...


>
> I still do not quite get what problem the OP is having.
> Slowness in and of itself is not necessarily a technical problem.
>
> If the OP has a slow cpu old computer, with (perhaps) a
> small amount of RAM and a with (perhaps) slow (4200RPM)
> disk drive, then it is going to take a while to finish initializing
> all the daemons and hardware until the UI can respond to
> user. Also, having a small amount of swap or no swap space
> could make things a lot worse :), some apps might not even
> start, let alone run.
> I hope the OP tells us more about his HW specs and swap size.


It's older, but not that old... Dual core intel @ 2GHz, 3GB DDR2 ram. The
hard drive activity stops after the initial login so I don't think that's a
factor. Not sure about swap but it's the default from a Live Workstation
install.

I'm not actually sure what's going on After login I get a dark textured
screen with mouse cursor only. After I wake the screen up after going into
dpms I get the gnome-shell "lock screen" and after unlocking I get a full
desktop. It's really weird like gnome-shell is loading but not showing
itself until after a lock/unlock cycle.

Richard
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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/04/15 09:43, jd1008 wrote:
> I see the
> Stopping ..etc
> live as I am booting!!!
> Every time!!! 

Well, well.  It seems it may be related to systems running GNOME or GNOMEish 
systems.

Maybe another reason I'm happy to be running mostly KDE.  :-)

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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[jd1008]

On 02/03/2015 06:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:43 PM, jd1008 > wrote:


No Ed.
I see the
Stopping ..etc
live as I am booting!!!
Every time!!!


Ok, so it may be normal, but I can't believe it is "right". It just 
doesn't make sense...



I still do not quite get what problem the OP is having.
Slowness in and of itself is not necessarily a technical problem.

If the OP has a slow cpu old computer, with (perhaps) a
small amount of RAM and a with (perhaps) slow (4200RPM)
disk drive, then it is going to take a while to finish initializing
all the daemons and hardware until the UI can respond to
user. Also, having a small amount of swap or no swap space
could make things a lot worse :), some apps might not even
start, let alone run.
I hope the OP tells us more about his HW specs and swap size.


It's older, but not that old... Dual core intel @ 2GHz, 3GB DDR2 ram. 
The hard drive activity stops after the initial login so I don't think 
that's a factor. Not sure about swap but it's the default from a Live 
Workstation install.


I'm not actually sure what's going on After login I get a dark 
textured screen with mouse cursor only. After I wake the screen up 
after going into dpms I get the gnome-shell "lock screen" and after 
unlocking I get a full desktop. It's really weird like gnome-shell is 
loading but not showing itself until after a lock/unlock cycle.


Richard



You might want to configure the screen locker (/usr/bin/mate-screensaver).
My DT is Mate, so I will show how I configure the screen saver from the 
Mate DT :


click on
System-> Preferences->Look and Feel->ScreenSaver

You should see
Activate Screensaver when computer is idle (and a sliding bar to select 
the idle time)
Lock Screen when Screensaver is Active (If this is checked, you might 
want to uncheck

it or increase the time which is considered idle by gnome)

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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM, jd1008  wrote:

> You might want to configure the screen locker (/usr/bin/mate-screensaver).
> My DT is Mate, so I will show how I configure the screen saver from the
> Mate DT :
>
> click on
> System-> Preferences->Look and Feel->ScreenSaver
>
> You should see
> Activate Screensaver when computer is idle (and a sliding bar to select
> the idle time)
> Lock Screen when Screensaver is Active (If this is checked, you might want
> to uncheck
> it or increase the time which is considered idle by gnome)


Seeing as I don't get a usable desktop until AFTER the first lock/unlock
cycle, I certainly don't want to increase it.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[jd1008]

On 02/03/2015 07:00 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM, jd1008 > wrote:


You might want to configure the screen locker
(/usr/bin/mate-screensaver).
My DT is Mate, so I will show how I configure the screen saver
from the Mate DT :

click on
System-> Preferences->Look and Feel->ScreenSaver

You should see
Activate Screensaver when computer is idle (and a sliding bar to
select the idle time)
Lock Screen when Screensaver is Active (If this is checked, you
might want to uncheck
it or increase the time which is considered idle by gnome)


Seeing as I don't get a usable desktop until AFTER the first 
lock/unlock cycle, I certainly don't want to increase it.


Thanks,
Richard



So, if the idle time is set short, and lock is enabled, then
you HAVE to accept the current behaviour as normal - Caveat Emptor!

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Re: Fedora 21 shutting down after logging in?

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:16 PM, jd1008  wrote:

>
> On 02/03/2015 07:00 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM, jd1008 > jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> You might want to configure the screen locker
>> (/usr/bin/mate-screensaver).
>> My DT is Mate, so I will show how I configure the screen saver
>> from the Mate DT :
>>
>> click on
>> System-> Preferences->Look and Feel->ScreenSaver
>>
>> You should see
>> Activate Screensaver when computer is idle (and a sliding bar to
>> select the idle time)
>> Lock Screen when Screensaver is Active (If this is checked, you
>> might want to uncheck
>> it or increase the time which is considered idle by gnome)
>>
>>
>> Seeing as I don't get a usable desktop until AFTER the first lock/unlock
>> cycle, I certainly don't want to increase it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>  So, if the idle time is set short, and lock is enabled, then
> you HAVE to accept the current behaviour as normal - Caveat Emptor!


Umm... I don't know where you're trying to go with this but I'm not
interested in a philosophical debate.

The fact I only get a desktop after a lock/unlock cycle is a symptom and
I'm not sure if it has anything to do with systemd thinking it needs to
shut the computer down or not. It's not a critical system so I'm not
terribly interested in band-aids either but troubleshooting ideas are
welcome.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Ahmad Samir]

On 4 February 2015 at 00:43, inode0  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
>> On 02/03/2015 04:48 PM, inode0 wrote:
>>> There is another exploit in the wild that adobe expects to fix with
>>> another release sometime this week.
>>
>>
>> I have a limited use of flash.  For sites like cnn.  Well, I think one of my
>> banks uses it for their home page...
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1188329
>
> I'd just take a few flash free days until adobe gets it fixed to be a
> little safer.
>
> John

From https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-02.html :

“Revisions

February 2, 2015 - removed Flash Player version 11.x from the list of
affected versions.  Version 11.x and earlier do not support the
functionality affected by CVE-2015-0313. ”

So they found that Linux/Firefox isn't affected IIUC.
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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Ahmad Samir]

On 3 February 2015 at 23:44, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date
> with security risks so it won't display any video news.  Go and update your
> flash player.
>
> On this F21 system I am using:
>
> adobe-linux-x86_64.repo
>
> which has in it:
>
> baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/
>
> yum.log shows:
>
> Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
> Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64
>
> So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy camper.  There
> have been a couple other sites complaining as well. Even one that said my
> version of Firefox was out of date, but that was only a warning.
>
>

Go to about:plugins in Firefox, if the displayed version of Adobe
Flash isn't *.440, try deleting
~/.mozilla/firefox/PROFILE_NAME/pluginreg.dat and refresh
about:plugins or restart Firefox.

I've hit a similar issue recently on a different website.

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Ahmad Samir
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