Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/12/2012 02:29 PM, JD wrote:
> FC16.
> What is the daemon that plays a sound, seemingly
> at random, and it sounds like a rattle ?
>
> I have heard this while running previous versions of fedora.
>
>

I'm fairly sure it is DE dependent.  One can make KDE quite noisy by going to 
"System
Settings-->Common appearance and Behavior-->Application and System 
Notifications". 
Applications such as T-Bird have their own settings  My cat managed to 
enable
that, in the middle of the night, and it took a while to track down the "random 
beeps".

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Re: failures in boot.log

2012-05-12 Thread JD

On 05/12/2012 12:59 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/12/2012 02:53 PM, JD wrote:

I ran rpm -qa | grep -i tpm and got nothing.

# /usr/sbin/tcsd -f
TCSD TDDL ERROR: Could not find a device to open!

The kernel I am running is the vanilla fedora 16 release 
kernel-3.3.4-3.fc16.i686.
So, I turned tcsd  off.
Is this service enabled by default even though the machine has no tpm device?

Thanx for the heads up.

Well, if you install the trousers package that service is installed and 
defaults to
on.  Since you don't have any TPM hardware there is no need to have it 
installed.
I've never have seen it installed by default on any of my systems.

Soit isn't needed.  While is doesn't hard anythingyou may want to 
remove it
just to have one less unnecessary app installed.

The same goes for uuidd.

I don't know if you use akmodsbut if you use that for your nvidia driver 
updates
from rpmfusion...you may need/want it.




Unfortunately, ecryptfs-utils-96-1.fc16.i686 requires libtspi.so.1
# rpm -qv --whatprovides /usr/lib/libtspi.so.1
trousers-0.3.6-1.fc16.i686

I need to use the ecryptfs tools, which is not restricted tp tpm devices.
To wit: excerpt from /usr/share/doc/ecryptfs-utils-96/README:

"In general, it is probably best to just type in your passphrase via
stdin every time you need to perform a mount.  Future versions of
eCryptfs will allow hardware token devices, such as a TPM chip, to
protect your secret keys."

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Re: audio notification from system

2012-05-12 Thread JD

On 05/12/2012 01:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/12/2012 02:29 PM, JD wrote:

FC16.
What is the daemon that plays a sound, seemingly
at random, and it sounds like a rattle ?

I have heard this while running previous versions of fedora.



I'm fairly sure it is DE dependent.  One can make KDE quite noisy by going to 
"System
Settings-->Common appearance and Behavior-->Application and System 
Notifications".
Applications such as T-Bird have their own settings  My cat managed to 
enable
that, in the middle of the night, and it took a while to track down the "random 
beeps".


Well, my current (and first time use of) is xfce4.
I have had this on my machine for several iterations
of fedora, from as far back as fc4. I had been a gnome
user until fc16, where gnome3 really made my day :)

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Re: failures in boot.log

2012-05-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/12/2012 03:32 PM, JD wrote:
> Unfortunately, ecryptfs-utils-96-1.fc16.i686 requires libtspi.so.1
> # rpm -qv --whatprovides /usr/lib/libtspi.so.1
> trousers-0.3.6-1.fc16.i686
>
> I need to use the ecryptfs tools, which is not restricted tp tpm devices.
> To wit: excerpt from /usr/share/doc/ecryptfs-utils-96/README:
>
> "In general, it is probably best to just type in your passphrase via
> stdin every time you need to perform a mount.  Future versions of
> eCryptfs will allow hardware token devices, such as a TPM chip, to
> protect your secret keys." 

I see, but you don't need the daemon  So "systemctl disable tcsd.service" 
would
seem to be in order.


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Re: failures in boot.log

2012-05-12 Thread JD

On 05/12/2012 01:36 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/12/2012 03:32 PM, JD wrote:

Unfortunately, ecryptfs-utils-96-1.fc16.i686 requires libtspi.so.1
# rpm -qv --whatprovides /usr/lib/libtspi.so.1
trousers-0.3.6-1.fc16.i686

I need to use the ecryptfs tools, which is not restricted tp tpm devices.
To wit: excerpt from /usr/share/doc/ecryptfs-utils-96/README:

"In general, it is probably best to just type in your passphrase via
stdin every time you need to perform a mount.  Future versions of
eCryptfs will allow hardware token devices, such as a TPM chip, to
protect your secret keys."

I see, but you don't need the daemon  So "systemctl disable tcsd.service" 
would
seem to be in order.

Yep! Thanx Ed!

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SOLVED Re: F16 Default Plytouth Theme?

2012-05-12 Thread Frank Murphy

On 12/05/12 02:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Michael Schwendt writes:


# plymouth-set-default-theme --list
charge
details
text


charge is the default theme, for anyone who cares.


Thanks Michael and Sam.

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Re: volume levels

2012-05-12 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 15:24 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> But for the OP, couldn't you just make 11 louder? Actually, it's a
> serious question, because it might be that your card's mixer isn't
> correctly handled in ALSA (I had this problem with early Pulseaudio).
> Might be worth getting onto the alsa-u...@lists.sourceforge.net list
> and asking about it.

The greater-than 100% volumes allow digital amplification (the computer
processing the sound), to deal with under-recorded audio (too quiet).
Not something that you'd, normally, want to do.

Normally, sound card mixers give you 0% to 100% control of the audio
going in, so that something like a wave file with a recording at the
absolute maximum level it can be recorded at, will play at the maximum
level that the audio hardware can re-produce.  If you tried to boost its
audio above 100%, you'd get shocking distortion.

It's better that such boosting be done as a deliberate over-range
adjustment, as and when needed (to cope with poor recordings).  Rather
than let the volume controls go above 100 without warning.  I've
certainly had my ears hurt when turning up the volume too far, without
any hint, and then played a normal sound file.

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Re: evil calibre?

2012-05-12 Thread Andras Simon
2012/5/11, Stephen Gallagher :

> This would best be reported to Calibre's upstream bug tracker:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre
>
>
> They're a very responsive upstream, so I imagine you'll get a prompt
> answer.

Thanks, I'll try this next, but first I'm following the official way
and reported it as
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821135

Andras
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file not found in "texlive" under F15

2012-05-12 Thread Adel ESSAFI
hello,
I am using fedora 15 to compile a latex document

I have this error message when I compile:

! I can't find file `pgflibrarytikzpositioning.code.tex'.


when I try to find that file I get no entry. Could you help please.

regards
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Re: evil calibre?

2012-05-12 Thread Bill Davidsen

Stephen Gallagher wrote:

On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 14:11 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:

Isn't there an unwritten law prohibiting document viewers changing the
documents they open?

If there is, ebook-viewer, part of calibre, doesn't respect it:

diff -r m/META-INF/calibre_bookmarks.txt m1/META-INF/calibre_bookmarks.txt
1c1
<  calibre_current_page_bookmark^7# *:eq(0)>  *:eq(1)>  *:eq(0)>
*:eq(4)>  *:eq(6) |0.19047619047619047
---

calibre_current_page_bookmark^15# *:eq(0)>  *:eq(1)>  *:eq(0)>  *:eq(8)>  
*:eq(43) |0.36197917


The directories that I compared contain unzipped versions of the same
epub file before and after an invocation of ebook-viewer. Probably
calibre_bookmarks.txt was put in the epub file by ebok-viewer in the
first place.

Now one could say, that this is harmless, because it doesn't change
the way the epub file will appear in any reader. But it changes
filesize and timestamp, enough to make backup  software notice.

Hopefully, unchecking the "Remember the current page when quitting" in
the Preferences is a workaround, but even then, it's just a
workaround. ebook-viewer is welcome to have its own little database of
bookmarks, but shouldn't annotate my books.



This would best be reported to Calibre's upstream bug tracker:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre


They're a very responsive upstream, so I imagine you'll get a prompt
answer.

I can see value in having the bookmarks be a separate thing, it allows multiple 
readers against a single document, which might be shared in a business 
environment, or even read-only. Being able to have a single original document 
and let everyone have their own personal current page and bookmarks and possibly 
annotation, would be a good thing. Unfortunately that sounds like a fairly major 
change to the existing behavior, so it may not be practical.



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Re: file not found in "texlive" under F15

2012-05-12 Thread Mohamed El Morabity
2012/5/12 Adel ESSAFI :
> I have this error message when I compile:
>
> ! I can't find file `pgflibrarytikzpositioning.code.tex'.

Hi,

the TikZ positioning library is part of recent PGF releases.
Unfortunately, Fedora provides by default TeX Live 2007 with an
outdated version of PGF.
You could take the latest version of PGF on the CTAN
(http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pgf) and install it in
~/texmf... Or simply upgrade to TeX Live 2011 thanks to the Novy's
dedicated repository:
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
(be careful, the page refers to TeX Live 2012 which is still in
development; the yum repository for TL 2011 can be set using this RPM:
http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/2011/packages.fc15/texlive-release.noarch.rpm).
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Re: Network problems

2012-05-12 Thread Oluwagbenga Shobowale
I think what you have is dhcp on your router but the interface ip on the router 
does not change when you change the ip... So when you try to reach it after the 
change you can't.
I would suggest you do 
Netstat -nr 
Which should show the ip and default gateway ...
Try this then change the server again ..
Traceroute would also show you what the next hop is ...

Oluwagbenga Shobowale

-Original Message-
From: Timothy Murphy 
Sender: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:25:12 
To: 
Reply-To: gayle...@eircom.net,
Community support for Fedora users 
Subject: Re: Network problems

Olav Vitters wrote:

> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:44:16PM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> I couldn't find a clear account of the effect of the line
>> anywhere in the shorewall documentation.
> 
> Add it, apply the changes and run the following as root:
> iptables -t nat -L -n
> 
> That'll tell you what it does.

I did do that:
--
[tim@grover two-interfaces]$ sudo iptables -t nat -L -n
Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination 
dnat   all  --  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   

Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination 
eth0_masq  all  --  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination 

Chain dnat (1 references)
target prot opt source   destination 
net_dnat   all  --  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   

Chain eth0_masq (1 references)
target prot opt source   destination 
MASQUERADE  all  --  192.168.2.0/24   0.0.0.0/0   
--

I don't find this very clear.
I take it that it supports what I said, namely
==
---
I have the lines
  #INTERFACE SOURCE ADDRESS PROTO PORT(S) IPSEC MARK
  eth0   eth1
in /etc/shorewall/masq on my server.
---
My question is: what exactly is the effect of this?
Does IP masquerading by default only apply 
to the firewall server to modem interface (eth0 in my case)?
And does the above line mean that it will also be applied
to packets reaching the firewall server on the eth1 LAN?
==

If I was right, wouldn't it have been simpler just to say,
"Yes, you are right"?

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Re: totem hangs on startup

2012-05-12 Thread Martín Marqués
2012/5/12 Paul Allen Newell :
> On 5/11/2012 8:13 AM, Martín Marqués wrote:
>>
>> I just finished upgrading from F15->F16 and I noticed that when ever I
>> start totem y hangs (a video hang) immediately.
>>
>> For example, if I start it with a video (avi for example) all the
>> window hangs but the audio gets played OK. Same video works OK on
>> another F16 I have on my desktop computer (exact same version of
>> totem).
>>
>> If I start totem without a video, I can't access the menu, as it is
>> too hanged. Can't close it either. I have to kill the window.
>>
>> Already tried removing conf files (.gconf/, .gnome2/, etc.).
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
> Martín:
>
> For what it is worth, I migrated from F14 to F16 under Xfce and had problems
> with Totem. Advice from this list was switch to smplayer and/or vlc. I'm
> quite happy with the advice I got. Any and all bugs I have with Totem never
> got addressed, let alone commented on ... including F14 under Gnome.

Pretty crappy advice they gave you, IMHO!

I am using gnome-mplayer (I didn't like so much dragon player) so it's
not that I have too much of a problem now, but I was used to totem,
and now it doesn't work (but does on my home computer, same version).

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Re: F15 : Flash not working on firefox 12

2012-05-12 Thread Edik Landaveri
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:02:24PM -0400, David wrote:
> On 5/11/2012 8:55 PM, Edik Landaveri wrote:

> You do understand that the reason Flash gets updates is to patch
> security holes and bugs?
> 
> To go 'backwards' to solve a viewing problem opens you to those old
> security attacks.
> 
> Look for the solution and repair your problem. It is a really bad idea,
> normally, to downgrade to an know bad application.
> 
> -- 
> 
>   David

Yes but allowing the flash plugin to have text relocation is
a potential security problem. Most libraries do not need this permission.
Libraries are sometimes coded incorrectly --Thanks Adobe who no longer will 
maintain its
linux releases except for Chrome. 

I rather trust my SELinux security context rather than an proprietary company 
:-<

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Re: F15 : Flash not working on firefox 12

2012-05-12 Thread David Boles
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Edik Landaveri  wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:02:24PM -0400, David wrote:
>> On 5/11/2012 8:55 PM, Edik Landaveri wrote:
>
>> You do understand that the reason Flash gets updates is to patch
>> security holes and bugs?
>>
>> To go 'backwards' to solve a viewing problem opens you to those old
>> security attacks.
>>
>> Look for the solution and repair your problem. It is a really bad idea,
>> normally, to downgrade to an know bad application.
>>
>> --
>>
>>   David
>
> Yes but allowing the flash plugin to have text relocation is
> a potential security problem. Most libraries do not need this permission.
> Libraries are sometimes coded incorrectly --Thanks Adobe who no longer will 
> maintain its
> linux releases except for Chrome.
>
> I rather trust my SELinux security context rather than an proprietary company 
> :-<


I can understand that.  :-)

The only problem with the last Flash for Linux, that I have seen
talked about was a green screen tint with Nvidia cards. Perhaps this
will spur on the Linux Flash project. Gnash I think it is called. Or
perhaps HTML5 will get going.

Good luck.
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Screen Size Problem in X11 / F14.

2012-05-12 Thread reg

I keep several old versions of Fedora around for testing of some software,
so PLEASE dont tell me to just move to the most recent release.

OK, I set my screen size to 1280x1024 in my xorg.conf

This worked fine up thru Fedora 11 (I dont currently have running copies
of F12 or F13 to test it there) but it DOES NOT WORK in Fedora14.
In Fedora14 I get 1024x768 with or without the xorg.conf.

Now my actual screen is behind a KVM so that is part of the problem, if I
connect the monitor directly to the computer everything works correctly.

So my question.
Is there some way to FORCE X11 to run at 1280x1024 in Fedora14, independent
of any tests it may make of the screen?  

Having something to override this (incorrect) behavior would be REALLY helpful.
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Re: F15 : Flash not working on firefox 12

2012-05-12 Thread JD

On 05/12/2012 08:28 AM, Edik Landaveri wrote:

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:02:24PM -0400, David wrote:

On 5/11/2012 8:55 PM, Edik Landaveri wrote:
You do understand that the reason Flash gets updates is to patch
security holes and bugs?

To go 'backwards' to solve a viewing problem opens you to those old
security attacks.

Look for the solution and repair your problem. It is a really bad idea,
normally, to downgrade to an know bad application.

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Yes but allowing the flash plugin to have text relocation is
a potential security problem. Most libraries do not need this permission.
Libraries are sometimes coded incorrectly --Thanks Adobe who no longer will 
maintain its
linux releases except for Chrome.

I rather trust my SELinux security context rather than an proprietary company 
:-<


Several years ago, AMD (and perhaps also Intel) introduced processors
that  prevented a program from modifying the text pages to thwart
exactly the kind of malware that did this.
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How to change the display's dots per inch setting

2012-05-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Everything on my laptop's screen is too small.

I calculated that my DPI is 140, not the default 96.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Better_DPI does not tell me anything  
that's useful.


Remote X clients, from an ssh-tunnelled connection, don't give a hoot about  
my desktop's usability settings.


There should be an easy way I can tell Xorg what my real DPI is, so  
everything looks sane.




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Re: How to change the display's dots per inch setting

2012-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:49:49 -0400
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> There should be an easy way I can tell Xorg what my real DPI is, so  
> everything looks sane.

Welcome to the twilight zone:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562

The simplest fix is to switch to KDM for your login manager and
add the -dpi 140 option to the X server args.
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Re: How to change the display's dots per inch setting

2012-05-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Tom Horsley writes:


On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:49:49 -0400
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> There should be an easy way I can tell Xorg what my real DPI is, so
> everything looks sane.

Welcome to the twilight zone:


Google already showed me the way.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562

The simplest fix is to switch to KDM for your login manager and
add the -dpi 140 option to the X server args.


Really, Gnome upstream is doing their best to encourage everyone to flush  
their crap down the toilet, and switch to something else.


Thanks for confirming that my Google skills have NOT deterioriated.




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Re: How to change the display's dots per inch setting

2012-05-12 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/12/2012 12:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Really, Gnome upstream is doing their best to encourage everyone to
flush their crap down the toilet, and switch to something else.


I wouldn't go that far, but only because I don't think the Gnome devs 
are even aware of how many people they're antagonizing by their "my way 
or the highway" attitude and their utter indifference to what anybody 
who isn't an active Gnome dev thinks or wants.


Remember, "Never attribute to malice anything that can adequately be 
explained by stupidity."  In this case, of course, I'd define stupidity 
as being a complete unwillingness to take the needs of their current 
userbase into account.

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Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade

2012-05-12 Thread Max Pyziur



Greetings,

Hoping to at least be on the trailing edge, I've started an upgrade 
process on my Dell Laptop Inspiron 600m.


It is currently running F15, and I'd like to upgrade to F16.

However, after going through the usual preliminaries (select time, 
keyboard, language), then Basic Storage devices,

hostname, root password, I'm given a choice to:
Use All Space
Replace Existing Linux
Shrink Current System
Use Free Space
Create Custom Layout

Each one of these indicates that "this option will remove date from the 
selected devices. Make sure you have backups"


What happened to "Upgrade an existing system" as seen on this Fedora 16 
documentation page:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/sn-upgrading-system-x86.html

Plus all of the other choices:
"Use LVM" (I assume that I don't need this for a basic laptop)
"Encrypt system" (suggestions?)
"Review and modify partitioning layout" (definitely, before everything 
gets possibly wiped)


And I have done a full data backup.

Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
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Re: Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade

2012-05-12 Thread Phil Dobbin
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On 12/05/12 21:44, Max Pyziur wrote:

> Hoping to at least be on the trailing edge, I've started an
> upgrade process on my Dell Laptop Inspiron 600m.
> 
> It is currently running F15, and I'd like to upgrade to F16.
> 
> However, after going through the usual preliminaries (select time, 
> keyboard, language), then Basic Storage devices, hostname, root
> password, I'm given a choice to: Use All Space Replace Existing
> Linux Shrink Current System Use Free Space Create Custom Layout
> 
> Each one of these indicates that "this option will remove date from
> the selected devices. Make sure you have backups"
> 
> What happened to "Upgrade an existing system" as seen on this
> Fedora 16 documentation page: 
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/sn-upgrading-system-x86.html
>
> 
> 
> Plus all of the other choices: "Use LVM" (I assume that I don't
> need this for a basic laptop) "Encrypt system" (suggestions?) 
> "Review and modify partitioning layout" (definitely, before
> everything gets possibly wiped)
> 
> And I have done a full data backup.


I personally upgraded from 15 -> 16 using preupgrade & it worked
flawlessly apart from it hung for about twenty minutes at the
selinux-policy stage but it eventually carried on & in the end I had a
F16 system with everything working fine.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade

2012-05-12 Thread David
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On 5/12/2012 5:25 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> On 12/05/12 21:44, Max Pyziur wrote:
> 
>> Hoping to at least be on the trailing edge, I've started an 
>> upgrade process on my Dell Laptop Inspiron 600m.
> 
>> It is currently running F15, and I'd like to upgrade to F16.
> 
>> However, after going through the usual preliminaries (select 
>> time, keyboard, language), then Basic Storage devices, hostname, 
>> root password, I'm given a choice to: Use All Space Replace 
>> Existing Linux Shrink Current System Use Free Space Create
>> Custom Layout
> 
>> Each one of these indicates that "this option will remove date 
>> from the selected devices. Make sure you have backups"
> 
>> What happened to "Upgrade an existing system" as seen on this 
>> Fedora 16 documentation page: 
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/sn-upgrading-system-x86.html
>
>>
>> 
> 
> 
>> Plus all of the other choices: "Use LVM" (I assume that I don't 
>> need this for a basic laptop) "Encrypt system" (suggestions?) 
>> "Review and modify partitioning layout" (definitely, before 
>> everything gets possibly wiped)
> 
>> And I have done a full data backup.
> 
> 
> I personally upgraded from 15 -> 16 using preupgrade & it worked 
> flawlessly apart from it hung for about twenty minutes at the 
> selinux-policy stage but it eventually carried on & in the end I 
> had a F16 system with everything working fine.



It has been my observation in that past that the users that problems
upgrading and 3rd party repos and packages. Those are 'not there' for
the update and the Fedora updates gets 'stuck' trying to figure out
what to do with what.

I may be wrong but that is what it looks like to me.

- -- 

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Re: Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade - Followup #1

2012-05-12 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sat, 12 May 2012, David wrote:


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On 5/12/2012 5:25 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

On 12/05/12 21:44, Max Pyziur wrote:


Hoping to at least be on the trailing edge, I've started an
upgrade process on my Dell Laptop Inspiron 600m.



It is currently running F15, and I'd like to upgrade to F16.



However, after going through the usual preliminaries (select
time, keyboard, language), then Basic Storage devices, hostname,
root password, I'm given a choice to: Use All Space Replace
Existing Linux Shrink Current System Use Free Space Create
Custom Layout



Each one of these indicates that "this option will remove date
from the selected devices. Make sure you have backups"



What happened to "Upgrade an existing system" as seen on this
Fedora 16 documentation page:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/sn-upgrading-system-x86.html









Plus all of the other choices: "Use LVM" (I assume that I don't
need this for a basic laptop) "Encrypt system" (suggestions?)
"Review and modify partitioning layout" (definitely, before
everything gets possibly wiped)



And I have done a full data backup.



I personally upgraded from 15 -> 16 using preupgrade & it worked
flawlessly apart from it hung for about twenty minutes at the
selinux-policy stage but it eventually carried on & in the end I
had a F16 system with everything working fine.


Much thanks for the quick replies.

In order to expite the upgrade, is it possible to use rpms from the 
F16 DVD rather than download them? That way there could be some possible 
time savings.


Much thanks again,

Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com




It has been my observation in that past that the users that problems
upgrading and 3rd party repos and packages. Those are 'not there' for
the update and the Fedora updates gets 'stuck' trying to figure out
what to do with what.

I may be wrong but that is what it looks like to me.

- --

 David



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Re: Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade - Followup #1

2012-05-12 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.05.2012 00:01, schrieb Max Pyziur:
> In order to expite the upgrade, is it possible to use rpms from the F16 DVD 
> rather than 
> download them? That way there could be some possible time savings.

if you do not want to download the packages and
have the DVD why are you simpply update with booting
from the DVD?



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Re: Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade

2012-05-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Max Pyziur writes:




Greetings,

Hoping to at least be on the trailing edge, I've started an upgrade process  
on my Dell Laptop Inspiron 600m.


It is currently running F15, and I'd like to upgrade to F16.

However, after going through the usual preliminaries (select time, keyboard,  
language), then Basic Storage devices,

hostname, root password, I'm given a choice to:
Use All Space
Replace Existing Linux
Shrink Current System
Use Free Space
Create Custom Layout


As I dimly recall the installer's UI, the next step after the basic storage  
device drivers get loaded is the prompt to upgrade the existing system, if  
one is found, or a new install.


If you're getting to the point where it's asking you for hostname and the  
root password, you've taken the wrong fork in the road. Those won't be  
prompted for, when taking the upgrade path.


The prompt to upgrade or install can be confusing. Rerun the installer, and  
take it slowly, taking note of every option on the screen that you see, and  
don't take the obvious one, without considering everything else that's on  
there.




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Re: How to change the display's dots per inch setting

2012-05-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Joe Zeff writes:


On 05/12/2012 12:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Really, Gnome upstream is doing their best to encourage everyone to
flush their crap down the toilet, and switch to something else.


I wouldn't go that far, but only because I don't think the Gnome devs are  
even aware of how many people they're antagonizing by their "my way or the  
highway" attitude and their utter indifference to what anybody who isn't an  
active Gnome dev thinks or wants.


Remember, "Never attribute to malice anything that can adequately be  
explained by stupidity."  In this case, of course, I'd define stupidity as  
being a complete unwillingness to take the needs of their current userbase  
into account.


Whatever. What you're saying is that this is indifference or ignorance,  
rather than arrogance. Whichever the case, the end result is that, according  
to those bugzilla entries, this hole has been known for years.


Years.

/facepalm

The good news here, I think is that these kinds of situations tend to solve  
themselves, eventually, one way or the other. It's only a matter of time. I  
just need a free weekend.




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Re: How to change the display's dots per inch setting

2012-05-12 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/12/2012 03:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Whatever. What you're saying is that this is indifference or ignorance,
rather than arrogance.


Indifference and arrogance masquerading as malice.
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Re: Upgrade F15->F16 Dell Inspiron 600m from DVD: no dialog box - Fresh Installation or Upgrade - Followup #1

2012-05-12 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sun, 13 May 2012, Reindl Harald wrote:




Am 13.05.2012 00:01, schrieb Max Pyziur:

In order to expite the upgrade, is it possible to use rpms from the F16 DVD 
rather than
download them? That way there could be some possible time savings.


if you do not want to download the packages and
have the DVD why are you simpply update with booting
from the DVD?


Because when I start the update process from the DVD, it goes straight 
into an install process, indicating that it is going to delete all 
data on existing partitions.


Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
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Why isn' t xbindkeys-config part of Fedora?

2012-05-12 Thread Fernando Cassia
Fedora includes the xbindkeys program for keyboard remapping to launch
certain apps etc. But not the GTK GUI that makes it user-friendly to
use.

http://pkgs.org/download/xbindkeys-config

Why?

FC

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Re: F15 : Flash not working on firefox 12

2012-05-12 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 11:02 -0400, David Boles wrote:
> The only problem with the last Flash for Linux, that I have seen
> talked about was a green screen tint with Nvidia cards. Perhaps this
> will spur on the Linux Flash project. Gnash I think it is called. Or
> perhaps HTML5 will get going.

Much as I'd like to see the end of Flash, for something superior.
Abandoning playback software will render old websites unreadable.

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