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Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
luck. Could someone please help me out?

thanks

Tim Ford


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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Stupid question..why not just run it on port 80?

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Subject: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
luck. Could someone please help me out?

thanks

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help


At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:

Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
luck. Could someone please help me out?


So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use port 80? 



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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread André Warnier


Tim Ford wrote:

Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
luck. Could someone please help me out?


Hi.

1) The port on which the webserver listens for requests (8080 presently 
in your case) is entirely configurable on the server side.


2) 80 is the default port for the http protocol, so that when a user 
tries "http://intranet";, it is the same as when they enter 
"http://intranet:80";.


3) in your Apache main configuration file, there is a line that says 
"Listen 8080"
By changing that to "Listen 80", you will change the port Apache is 
listening on, and thus attain your stated goal.


4) but (of course there is one), there can only be one server (program) 
(like Apache) listening on any given port at any given time on the same 
host computer.
It may thus be that some other program is already listening on port 80 
on your host computer, and that this may be the reason why your Apache 
is configured to use port 8080.


If you try changing the Listen configuration line above to port 80, and 
try to restart Apache, and it does not start, then that is probably the 
case.  Try it, and post back here if you still have a problem.



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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.

Tim Ford
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At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
>http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
>would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
>apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
>luck. Could someone please help me out?

So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use
port 80? 

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Thanks, I have apache set to listen on port 8080. When I type 
http://intranet:8080 it works but I want my users to just type in 
http://intranet and apache converts it for them. Its either mod_rewrite or 
mod_proxy.

thanks

Tim Ford

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Tim Ford wrote:
> Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
> http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
> would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
> apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
> luck. Could someone please help me out?
> 
Hi.

1) The port on which the webserver listens for requests (8080 presently 
in your case) is entirely configurable on the server side.

2) 80 is the default port for the http protocol, so that when a user 
tries "http://intranet";, it is the same as when they enter 
"http://intranet:80";.

3) in your Apache main configuration file, there is a line that says 
"Listen 8080"
By changing that to "Listen 80", you will change the port Apache is 
listening on, and thus attain your stated goal.

4) but (of course there is one), there can only be one server (program) 
(like Apache) listening on any given port at any given time on the same 
host computer.
It may thus be that some other program is already listening on port 80 
on your host computer, and that this may be the reason why your Apache 
is configured to use port 8080.

If you try changing the Listen configuration line above to port 80, and 
try to restart Apache, and it does not start, then that is probably the 
case.  Try it, and post back here if you still have a problem.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help


At 10:53 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:

Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.


By 'another web page' I'm assuming you mean another webserver?

So you'd need to look at whatever that webserver is, and perhaps a 
HTML page with a redirect to http://yourwebserver.com:8080 ... 



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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

There is no way for http://intranet to go directly to the web server on
port 8080. You'd have to configure something on the web server on port
80 to forward to 8080
IN the port 80 web server, you could do a:
 RedirectPermanent / http://intranet:8080
But then that kind of defeats the purpose of your port 80 web server,
unless you have other things like virtual hosts running on it. What's
the URL for the port 80 web server if the port 8080 one is
http://intranet:8080? Is it a different hostname in the url?

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Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.

Tim Ford
tf...@phmc.org

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At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
>http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
>would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
>apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
>luck. Could someone please help me out?

So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use
port 80? 

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Yes I have IIS running on port 80 hosting another webpage on the same
server that apache is installed on.

Tim Ford

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At 10:53 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
>webpage running on 80 on the same server.

By 'another web page' I'm assuming you mean another webserver?

So you'd need to look at whatever that webserver is, and perhaps a 
HTML page with a redirect to http://yourwebserver.com:8080 ... 

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

The url running on port 80 is http://chdb

Tim Ford

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There is no way for http://intranet to go directly to the web server on
port 8080. You'd have to configure something on the web server on port
80 to forward to 8080
IN the port 80 web server, you could do a:
 RedirectPermanent / http://intranet:8080
But then that kind of defeats the purpose of your port 80 web server,
unless you have other things like virtual hosts running on it. What's
the URL for the port 80 web server if the port 8080 one is
http://intranet:8080? Is it a different hostname in the url?

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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:53 AM
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Subject: RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.

Tim Ford
tf...@phmc.org

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At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
>http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
>would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
>apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
>luck. Could someone please help me out?

So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use
port 80? 

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help


At 11:01 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:

Yes I have IIS running on port 80 hosting another webpage on the same
server that apache is installed on.


Then you'd need to have your index.html or whatever your default page 
for IIS is redirect to your port 8080 page.


ie

http://www.yourdomain.com:8080/index.html";>  



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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Since your port 80 server is IIS that's what you'll have to do the
redirection from. This becomes a question for an IIS forum/mailing list.

You should just bind a separate IP for intranet to the physical server,
resolve the intranet hostname to that IP, and then run apache on port 80
on that ip with: Listen x.x.x.x:80

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The url running on port 80 is http://chdb

Tim Ford

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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:01 PM
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Subject: RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

There is no way for http://intranet to go directly to the web server on
port 8080. You'd have to configure something on the web server on port
80 to forward to 8080
IN the port 80 web server, you could do a:
 RedirectPermanent / http://intranet:8080
But then that kind of defeats the purpose of your port 80 web server,
unless you have other things like virtual hosts running on it. What's
the URL for the port 80 web server if the port 8080 one is
http://intranet:8080? Is it a different hostname in the url?

-Tony
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Format Dynamics, Inc.
303-573-1800x27
abia...@formatdynamics.com
http://www.formatdynamics.com

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From: Tim Ford [mailto:tf...@phmc.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:53 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.

Tim Ford
tf...@phmc.org

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From: Evan Platt [mailto:e...@espphotography.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:45 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
>http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
>would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
>apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
>luck. Could someone please help me out?

So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use
port 80? 

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Oh, and if you go the separate ip route, make sure you change IIS so
that it doesn't listen on all IPs, just the main one.

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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:08 PM
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Subject: RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Since your port 80 server is IIS that's what you'll have to do the
redirection from. This becomes a question for an IIS forum/mailing list.

You should just bind a separate IP for intranet to the physical server,
resolve the intranet hostname to that IP, and then run apache on port 80
on that ip with: Listen x.x.x.x:80

-Tony
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From: Tim Ford [mailto:tf...@phmc.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:03 PM
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The url running on port 80 is http://chdb

Tim Ford

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From: Anthony J. Biacco [mailto:abia...@formatdynamics.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:01 PM
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There is no way for http://intranet to go directly to the web server on
port 8080. You'd have to configure something on the web server on port
80 to forward to 8080
IN the port 80 web server, you could do a:
 RedirectPermanent / http://intranet:8080
But then that kind of defeats the purpose of your port 80 web server,
unless you have other things like virtual hosts running on it. What's
the URL for the port 80 web server if the port 8080 one is
http://intranet:8080? Is it a different hostname in the url?

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From: Tim Ford [mailto:tf...@phmc.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:53 AM
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Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.

Tim Ford
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At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
>http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
>would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
>apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
>luck. Could someone please help me out?

So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use
port 80? 

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

IIS is hosting a completely different web page and doesn't communicate with the 
web page being hosted with apache. So I can't do redirect with iis.

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Oh, and if you go the separate ip route, make sure you change IIS so
that it doesn't listen on all IPs, just the main one.

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Since your port 80 server is IIS that's what you'll have to do the
redirection from. This becomes a question for an IIS forum/mailing list.

You should just bind a separate IP for intranet to the physical server,
resolve the intranet hostname to that IP, and then run apache on port 80
on that ip with: Listen x.x.x.x:80

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The url running on port 80 is http://chdb

Tim Ford

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Subject: RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

There is no way for http://intranet to go directly to the web server on
port 8080. You'd have to configure something on the web server on port
80 to forward to 8080
IN the port 80 web server, you could do a:
 RedirectPermanent / http://intranet:8080
But then that kind of defeats the purpose of your port 80 web server,
unless you have other things like virtual hosts running on it. What's
the URL for the port 80 web server if the port 8080 one is
http://intranet:8080? Is it a different hostname in the url?

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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:53 AM
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Okay, the reason why its running on port 8080 is because I have another
webpage running on 80 on the same server.

Tim Ford
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At 10:33 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hello, I am hosting my webpage on port 8080 so the address is
>http://intranet:8080 and you have to type that to get to it. Well I
>would just like it if my users just had to type http://intranet and
>apache will do the rest. I have tried the Rewrite and Proxy but with no
>luck. Could someone please help me out?

So you have Apache running on port 80 and port 8080? Why not just use
port 80? 

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

> 
> 4) but (of course there is one), there can only be one server (program) 
> (like Apache) listening on any given port at any given time on the same 
> host computer.

 

 

Not at all true any more.  Modern  Windows OS (Windows XP 

and up ) systems allows (near 100) processes to use the same 

IP / Port at the same time.

 

In fact, even the Windows admin's automation tool,

powershell.exe, on the command line, can use the 

same port that other Windows processes use!

 

Web Servers

Web Services

Databases

Commamnd line processes

 

All at the same time, on the same IP / Port!

 

Just and FYI

 

 

 

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At 11:19 AM 3/5/2009, you wrote:

Not at all true any more.  Modern  Windows OS (Windows XP
and up ) systems allows (near 100) processes to use the same
IP / Port at the same time.

In fact, even the Windows admin's automation tool,
powershell.exe, on the command line, can use the
same port that other Windows processes use!

Web Servers
Web Services
Databases
Commamnd line processes

All at the same time, on the same IP / Port!


I think we're talking about two different things.

You can't have say IIS and Apache listen on the same IP and the same port. 



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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread Peter Schober

* Tim Ford  [2009-03-05 19:57]:
> Thanks, I have apache set to listen on port 8080. When I type
> http://intranet:8080 it works but I want my users to just type in
> http://intranet and apache converts it for them. Its either
> mod_rewrite or mod_proxy.

No. If your users don't specify any port (and just enter
http://intranet) their webbrowser connects to port 80, thereby
speaking directly with M$-IIS in your case. Your httpd on port 8080
never gets to see the request, hence there is nothing you can do with
mod_rewrite or mod_proxy in httpd.

You could proxy from M$-IIS to your httpd (if that's possible and you
know how), but that's not a question for this list.

Or maybe twist the ports around and let M$-IIS listen on a
non-standard port (like 8080) and httpd on port 80. *Then* configure
proxying of certain request to M$-IIS. But this would probably change
URLs for whatver M$-IIS was serving, so it all depends on what you
want and how much work you're willing to invest.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

> >Not at all true any more. Modern Windows OS (Windows XP
> >and up ) systems allows (near 100) processes to use the same
> >IP / Port at the same time.
> >
> >In fact, even the Windows admin's automation tool,
> >powershell.exe, on the command line, can use the
> >same port that other Windows processes use!
> >
> >Web Servers
> >Web Services
> >Databases
> >Commamnd line processes
> >
> >All at the same time, on the same IP / Port!
> 
> I think we're talking about two different things.
> 
> You can't have say IIS and Apache listen on the same IP and the same port. 
> 


Sure one could if ASF followed modern Windows

HTTP usage and used the http.sys object that 

all these other Windows processes use!

 

This one port only open way (here port 80, but can

be any port) is very useful for all newer Windows processes! 

 

Also the ports can be any  HTTP, TCP, PIPES, MESSAGES

four protocols of sharing not just HTTP only usage!

 

This is also why IIS 7 Vista now serves all requests

too - http.sys cache usage - even when sharing with

other http.sys Windows processes!  Some say IIS 7

is what Apache was suppose to be - modules, core,

whatever - the freedom to write one's own modules 

(In .NET or C++, etc.).  A lot has changed in this 

modern WEB world.

 

Perhap Apache on Windows needs updating?

 

 

 

 

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Tim Ford  wrote:
> IIS is hosting a completely different web page and doesn't communicate with 
> the web page being hosted with apache. So I can't do redirect with iis.

Not familiar with IIS, but if it's remotely HTTP compliant and
remotely modern in its capabilities, then this is not an issue.

The problem is, when people connect to your IP address through their
browser without specifying a port number, it assumes port 80, which is
where IIS is connected to. IIS is therefore the only entity that can
redirect the request to another port. Since you mentioned the two
sites have different names ("intranet" and "chdb"), you should be able
to set up IIS to recognize the difference by checking the HTTP/1.1
"Host" header. If you're able to do so, then you should be able to
issue an HTTP redirect to http://intranet:8080 when the Host header is
set to "intranet". This will tell the browser to make a new request to
the specified address. The URL with port number will still show up in
the address bar, but they don't have to remember to enter it
themselves.

The other alternative, as mentioned, is to set up IIS to proxy to your
apache server. The idea is the same, check the Host header and respond
differently when the request is made to "intranet" then when it's made
to "chdb". Proxying is more complicated, but it's probably the only
option if you don't want the port number to show up in address line
(other than ditching either IIS or Apache and serving both sites from
one server).

Both of these solutions are definitely outside the scope of this
mailing list though. Like someone said, you'll want to check IIS
documentation of forums. The term you're most likely looking for is
"name-based virtual hosting".

Hope that helps,
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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread Shawn Parr

You need to create a new website in IIS with your internal dns name http://internal 
 in your examples.  Then set it to redirect to http://internal:8080


Most of that is covered in this MS page:  
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324287

The redirect isn't.  But once you have the new "website" setup (I'm  
pretty sure that is what IIS calls it, not a virtual host), you can  
right click on it, go to Properties and probably figure out how to  
make the redirect happen.



On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

IIS is hosting a completely different web page and doesn't  
communicate with the web page being hosted with apache. So I can't  
do redirect with iis.




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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

Thanks everyone I found what I needed!

Tim Ford

From: Shawn Parr [mailto:pa...@nsula.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:10 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

You need to create a new website in IIS with your internal dns name 
http://internal in your examples.  Then set it to redirect to 
http://internal:8080

Most of that is covered in this MS page:  
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324287

The redirect isn't.  But once you have the new "website" setup (I'm pretty sure 
that is what IIS calls it, not a virtual host), you can right click on it, go 
to Properties and probably figure out how to make the redirect happen.

On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

IIS is hosting a completely different web page and doesn't communicate with the 
web page being hosted with apache. So I can't do redirect with iis.

Tim Ford
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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

>> 
> Not familiar with IIS, 

 

 

> IIS is therefore the only entity that can
> redirect the request to another port. 

 

 

One should define terms IIS6, 7, 7.5

do not redirect or send responses

http.sys does this - and also does for 

any other Windows process 

that uses http.sys.

 

 

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.


Flowering Weeds wrote:
 
Perhap Apache on Windows needs updating?


Perhap Apache on Windows needs to have patches offered.  HTTP.SYS
is an interesting technology and certainly fits the profile for
an entirely separate MPM and core network stack, unrelated to the
conventional httpd server.  Several folks have kicked around the
idea, but this is OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE.  Until someone feels like
doing to the work, it won't exist, and trolling doesn't encourage
solutions in open source.

On that friendly note; I happen to actually be deep inside of the
Windows (*socket based*) MPM, and the Apache 2.3-alpha MPM now
handles AcceptEx + Data (retrieving first packets optimization),
along with a better/more effective 'classic' solution for accept
based on WSAEventSelect().  It's already proven significantly
faster in my initial tests, although I'm not seeing any big win
from the change to accepting the initial data.  We'll see how
that evolves, there are still two more performance changes I'm
designing into those listen/accept threads.

Bill

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Flowering Weeds
 wrote:
>
>
>> >Not at all true any more. Modern Windows OS (Windows XP
>> >and up ) systems allows (near 100) processes to use the same
>> >IP / Port at the same time.
>> >
>> >In fact, even the Windows admin's automation tool,
>> >powershell.exe, on the command line, can use the
>> >same port that other Windows processes use!
>> >
>> >Web Servers
>> >Web Services
>> >Databases
>> >Commamnd line processes
>> >
>> >All at the same time, on the same IP / Port!
>>
>> I think we're talking about two different things.
>>
>> You can't have say IIS and Apache listen on the same IP and the same port.
>>
>
> Sure one could if ASF followed modern Windows
> HTTP usage and used the http.sys object that
> all these other Windows processes use!

Naturally, we should all look to Windows and MS in general for
guidance on how to follow standards. That's how we end up with such
beautiful pieces of software as Internet Explorer 6 which has lead to
more web-developer suicides than anything else in history.

Not to start a flame war, but Microsoft has a long and rich history of
bastardizing specifications and standards, both out of ignorance and
deliberate attempts to build monopolies on technologies: HTML, CSS,
Javascript, and even a little HTTP (and lets not forget Silverlight,
and C#; while not technically violations of any specification, I think
the argument could certainly be made that they were built for the sake
of competing with existing standards). Opening up multiple services on
a single IP-address/port combination seems to me to go against some of
the key concepts of TCP and UDP. After all, that is what ports were
originally intended for: correspondence to a particular service.

Anyway, those are both of my pennies on the topic. Sounds like the OP
was able to solve his problem, so that's good.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

>> > 
> > Perhap Apache on Windows needs updating?
> 
> Perhap Apache on Windows needs to have patches offered. HTTP.SYS
> is an interesting technology and certainly fits the profile for
> an entirely separate MPM and core network stack, unrelated to the
> conventional httpd server. Several folks have kicked around the
> idea, but this is OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE. Until someone feels like
> doing to the work, it won't exist, and trolling doesn't encourage
> solutions in open source.
> 

 

It had nothing to do with trolling - but explaining more than one process

on a port at the same time information - Apache can use it too!


> On that friendly note; 

 

As for patches - it's more than that - it is a completely new project!

 

And it is easy to start learning http.sys via PowerShell - even tracking

Apache via PowerShel (threads, sockets, processes and etc.). Then after 

seeing "non Unix" ways, not non HTTP ways, and how they work, well if

one wants to move on to C++ / C okay but .NET makes it so much easier 

for the starter now! PowerShell is a .NET processe that can use http.sys.

 

So one can start right at the command line and see usage and objects 

and properties and etc right now (of Apache and or of http.sys).  But all

this is not Apache On Windows Unix version software - just newer Windows 

actions doing standard HTTP actions like IIS or any other http.sys user!

 

But the real question for ASF is - why write something that is already

there - one can change any part of IIS 7 (and up).  So why not just

start ASF IIS modules or what ever?   Still open source and usable.

 

Then perhaps move on to (if needed) to Apache http.sys MPM!

 

Just a question!

 

 


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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread Frank Gingras

Flowering Weeds wrote:

Perhap Apache on Windows needs updating?

Perhap Apache on Windows needs to have patches offered. HTTP.SYS
is an interesting technology and certainly fits the profile for
an entirely separate MPM and core network stack, unrelated to the
conventional httpd server. Several folks have kicked around the
idea, but this is OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE. Until someone feels like
doing to the work, it won't exist, and trolling doesn't encourage
solutions in open source.

It had nothing to do with trolling - but explaining more than one process

on a port at the same time information - Apache can use it too!

On that friendly note;

As for patches - it's more than that - it is a completely new project!

And it is easy to start learning http.sys via PowerShell - even tracking

Apache via PowerShel (threads, sockets, processes and etc.). Then after

seeing "non Unix" ways, not non HTTP ways, and how they work, well if

one wants to move on to C++ / C okay but .NET makes it so much easier

for the starter now! PowerShell is a .NET processe that can use http.sys.

So one can start right at the command line and see usage and objects

and properties and etc right now (of Apache and or of http.sys). But all

this is not Apache On Windows Unix version software - just newer Windows

actions doing standard HTTP actions like IIS or any other http.sys user!

But the real question for ASF is - why write something that is already

there - one can change any part of IIS 7 (and up). So why not just

start ASF IIS modules or what ever? Still open source and usable.

Then perhaps move on to (if needed) to Apache http.sys MPM!

Just a question!

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Since you seem to know so much about that technology, why don't you
contribute to apache, and write the draft for this new (and supposively)
better MPM?

This mailing list is hardly the appropriate place to discuss this.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

I still think running each web server on a separate internal IP so you can run 
both on port 80 would be better than having IIS redirect the intranet request 
to apache. I just think he'd be adding a point of failure where one isn't 
needed. If IIS goes down for whatever reason, then you lose your intranet too.

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Thanks everyone I found what I needed!


Tim Ford

From: Shawn Parr [mailto:pa...@nsula.edu] 
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You need to create a new website in IIS with your internal dns name 
http://internal in your examples.  Then set it to redirect to 
http://internal:8080

Most of that is covered in this MS page:  
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324287

The redirect isn't.  But once you have the new "website" setup (I'm pretty sure 
that is what IIS calls it, not a virtual host), you can right click on it, go 
to Properties and probably figure out how to make the redirect happen.


On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Tim Ford wrote:


IIS is hosting a completely different web page and doesn't communicate with the 
web page being hosted with apache. So I can't do redirect with iis.



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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

> > 
> >
> > And it is easy to start learning http.sys via PowerShell - even tracking
> >
> > Apache via PowerShel (threads, sockets, processes and etc.). Then after 
> >
> > seeing "non Unix" ways, not non HTTP ways, and how they work, well if
> >
> > one wants to move on to C++ / C okay but .NET makes it so much easier 
> >
> > for the starter now! PowerShell is a .NET processe that can use http.sys.
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> Since you seem to know so much about that technology, why don't you 
> contribute to apache, and write the draft for this new (and supposively) 
> better MPM?
> 
> This mailing list is hardly the appropriate place to discuss this.
> 
> 


 

See when Windows is mentioned - it's move on time!

 

That is why I said start with PowerShell - like bash or what ever

but for Windows Apache users and also learn about http.sys!

 

Is tracking Apache processes allowed here?

 

 

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread Frank Gingras


Flowering Weeds wrote:
 

  

And it is easy to start learning http.sys via PowerShell - even tracking

Apache via PowerShel (threads, sockets, processes and etc.). Then after 


seeing "non Unix" ways, not non HTTP ways, and how they work, well if

one wants to move on to C++ / C okay but .NET makes it so much easier 


for the starter now! PowerShell is a .NET processe that can use http.sys.




  
Since you seem to know so much about that technology, why don't you 
contribute to apache, and write the draft for this new (and supposively) 
better MPM?


This mailing list is hardly the appropriate place to discuss this.






 


See when Windows is mentioned - it's move on time!

 


That is why I said start with PowerShell - like bash or what ever

but for Windows Apache users and also learn about http.sys!

 


Is tracking Apache processes allowed here?

 

 


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I can't venture to guess what you meant by "Tracking Apache processes". 
Care to explain?



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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

> >> This mailing list is hardly the appropriate place to discuss this.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > See when Windows is mentioned - it's move on time!
> >
> > 
> >
> > That is why I said start with PowerShell - like bash or what ever
> >
> > but for Windows Apache users and also learn about http.sys!
> >
> > 
> >
> > Is tracking Apache processes allowed here?
> >
> > 
> This is mailing list dedicated to supporting end users. Development 
> questions should be sent to dev@, or another medium.
> 
> I can't venture to guess what you meant by "Tracking Apache processes". 
> Care to explain?
> 


 

Perhaps seeing what every thread inside Apache is doing at run time!

 

Perhaps setting up Apache!

 

Perhaps charting Apache usage!

 

Perhaps anything a user wants to do with or within Apache Windows!

 

Perhaps calling Apache APIs from the command line!

 

Or perhaps "tracking Apache processes"!

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Flowering Weeds
 wrote:

> And it is easy to start learning http.sys via PowerShell - even tracking
> Apache via PowerShel (threads, sockets, processes and etc.). Then after
> seeing "non Unix" ways, not non HTTP ways, and how they work, well if
> one wants to move on to C++ / C okay but .NET makes it so much easier
> for the starter now! PowerShell is a .NET processe that can use http.sys.
>
> So one can start right at the command line and see usage and objects
> and properties and etc right now (of Apache and or of http.sys).  But all
> this is not Apache On Windows Unix version software - just newer Windows
> actions doing standard HTTP actions like IIS or any other http.sys user!
>
> But the real question for ASF is - why write something that is already
> there - one can change any part of IIS 7 (and up).  So why not just
> start ASF IIS modules or what ever?   Still open source and usable.
>
> Then perhaps move on to (if needed) to Apache http.sys MPM!
>
> Just a question!
>

Call me crazy...but if apache were written in .NET, wouldn't that make
it a Windows-only product?

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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

2009-03-05 Thread Frank Gingras


Brian Mearns wrote:

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Flowering Weeds
 wrote:

  

And it is easy to start learning http.sys via PowerShell - even tracking
Apache via PowerShel (threads, sockets, processes and etc.). Then after
seeing "non Unix" ways, not non HTTP ways, and how they work, well if
one wants to move on to C++ / C okay but .NET makes it so much easier
for the starter now! PowerShell is a .NET processe that can use http.sys.

So one can start right at the command line and see usage and objects
and properties and etc right now (of Apache and or of http.sys).  But all
this is not Apache On Windows Unix version software - just newer Windows
actions doing standard HTTP actions like IIS or any other http.sys user!

But the real question for ASF is - why write something that is already
there - one can change any part of IIS 7 (and up).  So why not just
start ASF IIS modules or what ever?   Still open source and usable.

Then perhaps move on to (if needed) to Apache http.sys MPM!

Just a question!




Call me crazy...but if apache were written in .NET, wouldn't that make
it a Windows-only product?


  

Brian,

I am now almost fully convinced that we're feeding a troll. I suggest we 
leave him alone.


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Re: [us...@httpd] Apache port help

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Anthony J. Biacco
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> I still think running each web server on a separate internal IP so you can 
> run both on port 80 would be better than having IIS redirect the intranet 
> request to apache. I just think he'd be adding a point of failure where one 
> isn't needed. If IIS goes down for whatever reason, then you lose your 
> intranet too.

Yeh, that's probably the cleanest approach, assuming he has another IP
address he can use.

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Frank Gingras
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> Brian,
>
> I am now almost fully convinced that we're feeding a troll. I suggest we
> leave him alone.
>

Yeh, I think you're probably right. Good call.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Apache port help



 

> >> 
> >
> > Call me crazy...but if apache were written in .NET, wouldn't that make
> > it a Windows-only product?
> >
> >
> > 


 

No http.sys makes it Windows only

but so does WSA commands now!

 

Anyway a lot of .NET (CLR really) is

in Mono and the many Silverlight .NET

usage versions for most OS browsers.

 

Remember C# is a standard now

and .NET is Microsft's version of it!

 

FYI

 

 

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[us...@httpd] .htpasswd login failure

2009-03-05 Thread KK CHN

Hi List,


 I added afor restricting access to   my  web site
URL. I used   Basic  Authentication module..


I created  #htpasswd  -c  .htpasswd  test

   password  :  test


and restarted  apache .   The  path to  AuthUserFile   is   absolutely the
system path no error in   that ..

but when I tried to   accessmysites  URL  it  showing the
Authentication Dialogue  ,  I enteredusername  : test

password  : test   ,   but  its not loging in ..)

I recreated the   password  many times  with  other user  names and
passwords.. but still I can't login  ..


what may be the issue ?  how can I fix the issue ?



This is the setup 

[r...@sun /usr/local/www/testblock]# ls -al
total 6
drwxr-xr-x   2 www   www512 Mar  5 19:13 .
drwxr-xr-x  11 root  wheel  512 Mar  5 16:10 ..
-rw-r-xr-x   1 www   www 19 Mar  6 09:52 .htpasswd
[r...@sun /usr/local/www/testblock]# cat .htpasswd
test:Nkw3seTaTE16I
[r...@sun /usr/local/www/testblock]#



ServerName   mysite.com


AuthType Basic
AuthName "Auth"
AuthUserFile "/usr/local/www/testblock/.htpasswd"
Require valid-user
RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^/(.*)
http://127.0.0.1:8081/VirtualHostBase/http/mysite.com:80/site1/VirtualHostRoot/$1[L,P]

ErrorLog /var/log/apache/site1/error_log
CustomLog /var/log/apache/site2/access.log combined


Any hints most welcome

Thanks in advance
KK

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