Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like 
“put random(99) into msg”
does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more stuff” that is 
the problem?

Craig

> On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:00 AM, jbv via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> Here's what I am trying to do :
> 
> on opencard
>   send "handler1" to me with messages
> end opencard
> 
> on handler1
>   send "handler2" to me in 200 millisec
>   -- more stuff
> end handler1
> 
> on handler2
>   if condition then
>  send "handler2" to me in 200 millisec
>   end if
> end handler2
> 
> The idea is to have handler2 keep sending messages
> as long as "condition" is true, while handler1 keeps
> running and eventually sets "condition" to false,
> and therefore stops handler2 from sending messages.
> 
> The simple above test script works, but with sophisticate
> commands in "more stuff", I get a script error and can't
> figure whether it's a syntax or a structure error...
> In other words, the question is : if handler1 keeps running
> for some time, does it conflict with handler2 ?
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> jbv
> 
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Re: Cannot access forum?

2025-03-17 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
It's just so sad that some person or persons feel that trying to take 
down someone else's web service is somehow a way to (a) make money OR 
(b) get revenge OR (c) just be an a$$hole OR all of the above :-(


On 3/17/2025 12:22 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:

Just a heads up, the forums are still experiencing an ongoing DDOS attack. For 
the moment they have been set to no access for guests, this does not mean there 
are no forums. You just need to log in to see them.

Once the DDOS gets bored and goes away we'll set it back.

Best Regards,

Heather

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https://forums.livecode.com/ inaccessible again this morning (403). Support@ 
cc'd here.

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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread jbv via use-livecode

Le 2025-03-17 09:27, Craig Newman via use-livecode a écrit :

If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like
“put random(99) into msg”
does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more stuff” 
that is the problem?




Craig,
It stops working.
It seems like messages aren't sent when handler1 is running...

jbv

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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode

And some people would not see it 

On 17/03/2025 13:58, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

And for the umpteenth time, this is so much more palatable on the forum.

Craig


On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:54 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
 wrote:

First off, the “with messages” is not proper syntax for “send”. It is for 
“wait”. I removed that portion, but do not understand how you got past it.

Make a field. This works:
on opencard

send "handler1" to me

end opencard



on handler1

send "handler2" to me in 200millisec

end handler1



on handler2

put random(99) into fld 1

send "handler2" to me in 200millisec

end handler2



I get lots of random numbers, five per second. No idea what “condition” is, so 
I deleted it. Anyway, it is not something in the foundation of your script.



Craig





On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:42 AM, jbv via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Le 2025-03-17 09:27, Craig Newman via use-livecode a écrit :

If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like
“put random(99) into msg”
does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more stuff” that is 
the problem?

Craig,
It stops working.
It seems like messages aren't sent when handler1 is running...

jbv

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Re: Cannot access forum?

2025-03-17 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

A and B are subsets of C.

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On March 17, 2025 1:18:55 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:



It's just so sad that some person or persons feel that trying to take
down someone else's web service is somehow a way to (a) make money OR
(b) get revenge OR (c) just be an a$$hole OR all of the above :-(

On 3/17/2025 12:22 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
Just a heads up, the forums are still experiencing an ongoing DDOS attack. 
For the moment they have been set to no access for guests, this does not 
mean there are no forums. You just need to log in to see them.


Once the DDOS gets bored and goes away we'll set it back.

Best Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
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On 16 Mar 2025, at 15:37, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
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https://forums.livecode.com/ inaccessible again this morning (403). 
Support@ cc'd here.


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FourthWorld.com

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Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread jbv via use-livecode

Hi list,

Here's what I am trying to do :

on opencard
   send "handler1" to me with messages
end opencard

on handler1
   send "handler2" to me in 200 millisec
   -- more stuff
end handler1

on handler2
   if condition then
  send "handler2" to me in 200 millisec
   end if
end handler2

The idea is to have handler2 keep sending messages
as long as "condition" is true, while handler1 keeps
running and eventually sets "condition" to false,
and therefore stops handler2 from sending messages.

The simple above test script works, but with sophisticate
commands in "more stuff", I get a script error and can't
figure whether it's a syntax or a structure error...
In other words, the question is : if handler1 keeps running
for some time, does it conflict with handler2 ?

Thank you in advance.
jbv

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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
First off, the “with messages” is not proper syntax for “send”. It is for 
“wait”. I removed that portion, but do not understand how you got past it.

Make a field. This works:
on opencard

send "handler1" to me

end opencard



on handler1

send "handler2" to me in 200millisec

end handler1



on handler2

put random(99) into fld 1

send "handler2" to me in 200millisec

end handler2



I get lots of random numbers, five per second. No idea what “condition” is, so 
I deleted it. Anyway, it is not something in the foundation of your script.



Craig




> On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:42 AM, jbv via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Le 2025-03-17 09:27, Craig Newman via use-livecode a écrit :
>> If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like
>> “put random(99) into msg”
>> does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more stuff” that 
>> is the problem?
> 
> Craig,
> It stops working.
> It seems like messages aren't sent when handler1 is running...
> 
> jbv
> 
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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread jbv via use-livecode

Le 2025-03-17 10:01, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode a écrit :
That sounds quite likely. If handler1 is running continuously, then 
other messages will not happen.


I'd suggest putting various

   wait for 0 seconds with messages

inside the running loops of handler1, in order that pending messages 
can be dealt with.


Alex.



Yes, I thought of that, I even inserted numerous "handler2" commands
in handler1, but the idea was to have messages to "handler2" sent in
a very regular way, no matter what happens in handler1.
And inserting commands in handler1 will break that regularity, for
they will be scattered among the script...

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Re: Another Datagrid question

2025-03-17 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
I recommend that you ALWAYS manually include extensions. This ensures that if 
any are missing, that is on you, and not that the automated include gadget 
fouled up.

That said, anyone know if that gadget is now reliable?

Craig

> On Mar 16, 2025, at 4:26 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello  jbv,
> 
> Datagrid and also some other extensions, for example the mime library, do 
> need to be manually selected for inclusion.
> And as far as i know there is no way to  get those extensions included when 
> letting the SB search for the inclusions.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
> 
> 
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>> Am 16.03.2025 um 16:51 schrieb jbv via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> Is there anything specific to consider/include
>> about datagrids when building a standalone, like
>> inclusions ?
>> When I look at the inclusions list in the
>> "standalone settings" dialog, I see "Datagrid"
>> but I thought that selecting "search for required
>> inclusions when saving the standalone" was enough
>> to have all inclusions added to the app.
>> My problem is that everything runs fine in the IDE,
>> but in the standalone, 'set the dgProp["columns"]' and
>> 'set the dgText' don't display anything...
>> 
>> So the solution seems to select manually all required
>> inclusions, hoping I won't forget any...
>> Any tip or advice on that matter ?
>> 
>> Thank you in advance.
>> jbv
>> 
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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
And for the umpteenth time, this is so much more palatable on the forum.

Craig

> On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:54 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> First off, the “with messages” is not proper syntax for “send”. It is for 
> “wait”. I removed that portion, but do not understand how you got past it.
> 
> Make a field. This works:
> on opencard
> 
> send "handler1" to me
> 
> end opencard
> 
> 
> 
> on handler1
> 
> send "handler2" to me in 200millisec
> 
> end handler1
> 
> 
> 
> on handler2
> 
> put random(99) into fld 1
> 
> send "handler2" to me in 200millisec
> 
> end handler2
> 
> 
> 
> I get lots of random numbers, five per second. No idea what “condition” is, 
> so I deleted it. Anyway, it is not something in the foundation of your script.
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2025, at 9:42 AM, jbv via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Le 2025-03-17 09:27, Craig Newman via use-livecode a écrit :
>>> If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like
>>> “put random(99) into msg”
>>> does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more stuff” 
>>> that is the problem?
>> 
>> Craig,
>> It stops working.
>> It seems like messages aren't sent when handler1 is running...
>> 
>> jbv
>> 
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Retro Question

2025-03-17 Thread Zellner Ronald via use-livecode
I’m revising an old stack and have what seems like a simple issue.
I have an image displayed and I want a button to change the source of that 
image with a jpeg file of the same size in the same folder.
I’d prefer being able to browse and select a file, but will settle for 
displaying one of an existing set of files.
Thanks.
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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
also, i have a cron code library that works with levure, if you want
something that's already written, and just runs:
https://github.com/macMikey/mikeys-cron-library

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 9:42 AM jbv via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Le 2025-03-17 09:27, Craig Newman via use-livecode a écrit :
> > If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like
> > “put random(99) into msg”
> > does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more stuff”
> > that is the problem?
> >
>
> Craig,
> It stops working.
> It seems like messages aren't sent when handler1 is running...
>
> jbv
>
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Re: Cannot access forum?

2025-03-17 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Just a heads up, the forums are still experiencing an ongoing DDOS attack. For 
the moment they have been set to no access for guests, this does not mean there 
are no forums. You just need to log in to see them.

Once the DDOS gets bored and goes away we'll set it back.

Best Regards,

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> On 16 Mar 2025, at 15:37, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
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Re: Another Datagrid question

2025-03-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
search is broken-ish, in some circumstances. there have been some threads
on this. manual is the way.
also, there are some libraries (cough - database - cough) that are
included, even when excluded, manually. database, for example stays in the
message path, which is really annoying when debugging interfaces. it's also
why tmControls does not use mouseUp events, but, instead sends the custom
message "buttonUp"

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 4:27 PM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hello  jbv,
>
> Datagrid and also some other extensions, for example the mime library, do
> need to be manually selected for inclusion.
> And as far as i know there is no way to  get those extensions included
> when letting the SB search for the inclusions.
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
> > Am 16.03.2025 um 16:51 schrieb jbv via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > Is there anything specific to consider/include
> > about datagrids when building a standalone, like
> > inclusions ?
> > When I look at the inclusions list in the
> > "standalone settings" dialog, I see "Datagrid"
> > but I thought that selecting "search for required
> > inclusions when saving the standalone" was enough
> > to have all inclusions added to the app.
> > My problem is that everything runs fine in the IDE,
> > but in the standalone, 'set the dgProp["columns"]' and
> > 'set the dgText' don't display anything...
> >
> > So the solution seems to select manually all required
> > inclusions, hoping I won't forget any...
> > Any tip or advice on that matter ?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> > jbv
> >
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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
i'm gonna have to see more to help.
i have a mobe project that runs with multiple cron + timer jobs running at
a time. it runs great.
one of those timers modifies the appearance of a control, multiple times
per second, while another polls the server, and another lets me display
non-blocking modal "ask" and "answer" dialogs (the custom dialogs appear
over everything else, but i can dismiss them from inside of the scripts
that are still running - which is something you can't do with regular ask
and answer dialogs.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 9:01 AM jbv via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> Here's what I am trying to do :
>
> on opencard
> send "handler1" to me with messages
> end opencard
>
> on handler1
> send "handler2" to me in 200 millisec
> -- more stuff
> end handler1
>
> on handler2
> if condition then
>send "handler2" to me in 200 millisec
> end if
> end handler2
>
> The idea is to have handler2 keep sending messages
> as long as "condition" is true, while handler1 keeps
> running and eventually sets "condition" to false,
> and therefore stops handler2 from sending messages.
>
> The simple above test script works, but with sophisticate
> commands in "more stuff", I get a script error and can't
> figure whether it's a syntax or a structure error...
> In other words, the question is : if handler1 keeps running
> for some time, does it conflict with handler2 ?
>
> Thank you in advance.
> jbv
>
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Re: Retro Question

2025-03-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
are you asking for a command? try answer file
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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
That sounds quite likely. If handler1 is running continuously, then 
other messages will not happen.


I'd suggest putting various

   wait for 0 seconds with messages

inside the running loops of handler1, in order that pending messages can 
be dealt with.


Alex.

On 17/03/2025 13:42, jbv via use-livecode wrote:

Le 2025-03-17 09:27, Craig Newman via use-livecode a écrit :

If you place a simple one-liner in “more stuff”, like
“put random(99) into msg”
does that work? Another words, is it something in your own “more 
stuff” that is the problem?




Craig,
It stops working.
It seems like messages aren't sent when handler1 is running...

jbv

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Re: Question about messages

2025-03-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
@jbv - yes, the way you structured this is more foolproof. this is the way
we set up our kiosks, because they are running in single-app mode, so if
the timers stop, it will break the app.
a couple of other things you can do, that might help you figure out what's
going on:
* put the rest of handler1 in a try/catch
* check the waitDepth before proceeding.


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> Le 2025-03-17 10:01, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode a écrit :
> > That sounds quite likely. If handler1 is running continuously, then
> > other messages will not happen.
> >
> > I'd suggest putting various
> >
> >wait for 0 seconds with messages
> >
> > inside the running loops of handler1, in order that pending messages
> > can be dealt with.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
>
> Yes, I thought of that, I even inserted numerous "handler2" commands
> in handler1, but the idea was to have messages to "handler2" sent in
> a very regular way, no matter what happens in handler1.
> And inserting commands in handler1 will break that regularity, for
> they will be scattered among the script...
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Re: Cannot access forum?

2025-03-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
there are some other dev tools that have been dealing with this for weeks.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 2:17 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> It's just so sad that some person or persons feel that trying to take
> down someone else's web service is somehow a way to (a) make money OR
> (b) get revenge OR (c) just be an a$$hole OR all of the above :-(
>
> On 3/17/2025 12:22 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
> > Just a heads up, the forums are still experiencing an ongoing DDOS
> attack. For the moment they have been set to no access for guests, this
> does not mean there are no forums. You just need to log in to see them.
> >
> > Once the DDOS gets bored and goes away we'll set it back.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > Heather Laine
> > Customer Services Manager
> > LiveCode Ltd
> > www.livecode.com
> > Build Software You'll Never Outgrow
> >
> >> On 16 Mar 2025, at 15:37, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> https://forums.livecode.com/ inaccessible again this morning (403).
> Support@ cc'd here.
> >>
> >> Richard Gaskin
> >> FourthWorld.com
> >>
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