Re: Low-code dev tools checklist, Red Flags, LC Options to consider
Yeah we used to have 4th Dimension at a place I worked at many, MANY years ago. The whole flow chart paradigm kinda lost me. Bob S > On Jan 23, 2025, at 6:01 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > correct, the client framework is running js. the client side of your > project is low/no, so many of the actions you are invoking are inserted to > the widget via a menu. if the widget property editor does not get you what > you want, you are writing CSS. > the server code (where a lot of the action is taking place) is written in > an updated version of 4d's newer ORDA language. > if you remember 4d, it is procedural. the newer syntax is OO, with an ORM. > qodly takes that paradigm a step further and makes the syntax more > modern/JS'y. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Low-code dev tools checklist, Red Flags, LC Options to consider
dude, 4d hasn't used flowcharts since around 1992, and at that time, it was optional (instead of coding methods like you would usually expect) you are O-L-D. On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 11:12 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yeah we used to have 4th Dimension at a place I worked at many, MANY years > ago. The whole flow chart paradigm kinda lost me. > > Bob S > > > > On Jan 23, 2025, at 6:01 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > correct, the client framework is running js. the client side of your > > project is low/no, so many of the actions you are invoking are inserted > to > > the widget via a menu. if the widget property editor does not get you > what > > you want, you are writing CSS. > > the server code (where a lot of the action is taking place) is written in > > an updated version of 4d's newer ORDA language. > > if you remember 4d, it is procedural. the newer syntax is OO, with an > ORM. > > qodly takes that paradigm a step further and makes the syntax more > > modern/JS'y. > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Low-code dev tools checklist, Red Flags, LC Options to consider
i mean, i'm kinda old, which is how i remember the dates. that, and my first job out of B-school was a combination hypercard/supercard/4d nerd. come to think of it, i think 4dv2 was 1990, and, at that time, flowcharts were optional. On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:07 PM Mike Kerner wrote: > dude, 4d hasn't used flowcharts since around 1992, and at that time, it > was optional (instead of coding methods like you would usually expect) > you are O-L-D. > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 11:12 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Yeah we used to have 4th Dimension at a place I worked at many, MANY >> years ago. The whole flow chart paradigm kinda lost me. >> >> Bob S >> >> >> > On Jan 23, 2025, at 6:01 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > correct, the client framework is running js. the client side of your >> > project is low/no, so many of the actions you are invoking are inserted >> to >> > the widget via a menu. if the widget property editor does not get you >> what >> > you want, you are writing CSS. >> > the server code (where a lot of the action is taking place) is written >> in >> > an updated version of 4d's newer ORDA language. >> > if you remember 4d, it is procedural. the newer syntax is OO, with an >> ORM. >> > qodly takes that paradigm a step further and makes the syntax more >> > modern/JS'y. >> > ___ >> > use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Azure or AWS ?
For the record, I tried to register at Azure to test their free offer, but the registration includes a tel.# validation that doesn't work... So I tried AWS for their free offer, registration went fine, but their free offer doesn't include GPU usage. So now I am trying Google Colab. Regarding Appwrite.io, I might be wrong, but I didn't see any GPU possibilities in their offers... Le 2025-01-22 19:18, Tom Glod via use-livecode a écrit : Appwrite.io is also an option, I have an implementation forauth, crud, and object storage. I like it because its Open source, cloud or self host, and u can migrate between the two with click of button. (ish?) Venture backed with lots of devs working on it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC and embedding
Hi again list, Has anyone tried to do text embedding from LC on a CPU-only device ? Thank you in advance. jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Low-code dev tools checklist, Red Flags, LC Options to consider
correct, the client framework is running js. the client side of your project is low/no, so many of the actions you are invoking are inserted to the widget via a menu. if the widget property editor does not get you what you want, you are writing CSS. the server code (where a lot of the action is taking place) is written in an updated version of 4d's newer ORDA language. if you remember 4d, it is procedural. the newer syntax is OO, with an ORM. qodly takes that paradigm a step further and makes the syntax more modern/JS'y. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Low-code dev tools checklist, Red Flags, LC Options to consider
Anyone who cut their teeth on HyperCard is old now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 23, 2025 2:14:17 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: i mean, i'm kinda old, which is how i remember the dates. that, and my first job out of B-school was a combination hypercard/supercard/4d nerd. come to think of it, i think 4dv2 was 1990, and, at that time, flowcharts were optional. On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:07 PM Mike Kerner wrote: dude, 4d hasn't used flowcharts since around 1992, and at that time, it was optional (instead of coding methods like you would usually expect) you are O-L-D. On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 11:12 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Yeah we used to have 4th Dimension at a place I worked at many, MANY years ago. The whole flow chart paradigm kinda lost me. Bob S > On Jan 23, 2025, at 6:01 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > correct, the client framework is running js. the client side of your > project is low/no, so many of the actions you are invoking are inserted to > the widget via a menu. if the widget property editor does not get you what > you want, you are writing CSS. > the server code (where a lot of the action is taking place) is written in > an updated version of 4d's newer ORDA language. > if you remember 4d, it is procedural. the newer syntax is OO, with an ORM. > qodly takes that paradigm a step further and makes the syntax more > modern/JS'y. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
