Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - secure email?

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Spriggs 
On 4 September 2013 12:28, Nigel Verity  wrote:

> I suspect that the solution fundamentally relies on denying access to
> encryption keys to anybody other than the sender and the intended recipient.
> The system based on page, line numbers and word positions in a commonly
> available book worked well for the SOE during WW2. With so much digital
> media available today, perhaps an updated version of that approach might
> provide a pointer.

Thank you for the mail as a whole, you've succinctly wrapped up the
issues in a much clearer way than I could!

With regards to your last comment (included above), just bear in mind
that in the UK, should you be arrested and requested to hand over your
decryption keys, you are required to comply with that request, by law,
under RIPA 
(http://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000/Part_III).
For many that won't be an issue, but just bear it in mind.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] adobe connect

2013-09-05 Thread Daniel Llewellyn 
On 4 September 2013 11:07, Norman Silverstone  wrote:
>
> I have just tried to install Adobe Connect 8 both 64 bit and 32 bit and
> the installation was refused because of the poor quality of the software.
> This is new to me.


that sounds like the software centre warning that tries to protect you from
yourself in cases where you don't know whether what you're installing if
from a reputable source. I am unaware of what it actually checks when
deciding if the package is of poor quality. However, you can easily click
the "install anyway" button to bypass the warning and get the package
installed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread John Oliver 

>
> I think the problem is that he finds the file on the dash. He will not
be able to delete from there.
>
> Sorry not near a computer now.
>
>
>

In that case, if you are in the dash, which is the large menu from the
button in the top-left, search for the file you want to delete, right
click it, and then select "Show in Folder". This will open the correct
folder in the file manager, and should automatically select the
appropriate file. You can then right-click on the file and select "Move
to the Rubbish Bin".

You can then delete it permanently by opening the Rubbish Bin (Bottom
left of the screen), selecting it, and then deleting it again in the
manner described above.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Gordon 
Not quite sure what the problem is. A Libre Office doc is just a file -
what happens when you try to delete it just like you would any other file?
On Sep 5, 2013 6:46 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre
Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
> Thanks, Michael.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread John Oliver 

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On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre Office 
> document and can not
find a way, can anybody assist please.
> Thanks, Michael.
>
Can you locate the file in your file manager/explorer? If you can, try
clicking it and pressing the delete key on the keyboard.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Dave Morley 
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On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted
> Libre Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist
> please. Thanks, Michael.
> 
Libreoffice only creates the document.  It will normally save it in
~/Documents (~ = /home/your_user_name)

So if you open the file nautilus/files (normally the second icon in
the Unity launcher) and goto Documents you will see the file there.

Right click on the file and then delete it.

LibreOffice Doesn't actually remove the file at all it is there it
create and edit doc files only.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés 
El 05/09/2013 19:09, "Dave Morley"  escribió:
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> On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
> > I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted
> > Libre Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist
> > please. Thanks, Michael.
> >
> Libreoffice only creates the document.  It will normally save it in
> ~/Documents (~ = /home/your_user_name)
>
> So if you open the file nautilus/files (normally the second icon in
> the Unity launcher) and goto Documents you will see the file there.
>
> Right click on the file and then delete it.
>
> LibreOffice Doesn't actually remove the file at all it is there it
> create and edit doc files only.
>
> Hope that helps.
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I think the problem is that he finds the file on the dash. He will not be
able to delete from there.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Kris Douglas 
Hello,

If you want to delete a document you would do it through your documents
folder on the system itself, not through libreoffice.

Could you explain in a little more detail what you are trying to achieve?

Kris Douglas MBCS
On 5 Sep 2013 18:46, "Michael"  wrote:

> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre
> Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
> Thanks, Michael.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Peter Maddison 
Go into the folder where LO saves the documents and simply delete it.To find 
out where LO saves documents.
Tools/Options/LibreOffice/Paths
Pete



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> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre 
> Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
> Thanks, Michael.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Gareth France 

On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre 
Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.

Thanks, Michael.

Erm Highlight the document in your file browser, right click and 
select delete?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Michael 

On 05/09/13 18:50, Kris Douglas wrote:


Hello,

If you want to delete a document you would do it through your 
documents folder on the system itself, not through libreoffice.


Could you explain in a little more detail what you are trying to achieve?

Kris Douglas MBCS

On 5 Sep 2013 18:46, "Michael" > wrote:


I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted
Libre Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist
please.
Thanks, Michael.

-

Strange as it might seem, even from the documents folder, the item can 
not be deleted, id select all is used and then the delete key, the 
content clears but the item still shows in the folder and reselection 
just shows the deleted content in the document.

I have never had anything like this happen before.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - secure email?

2013-09-05 Thread alan c 
On 05/09/13 12:57, Jon Spriggs wrote:
> On 4 September 2013 12:28, Nigel Verity  wrote:
> 
>> I suspect that the solution fundamentally relies on denying access to
>> encryption keys to anybody other than the sender and the intended recipient.
>> The system based on page, line numbers and word positions in a commonly
>> available book worked well for the SOE during WW2. With so much digital
>> media available today, perhaps an updated version of that approach might
>> provide a pointer.
> 
> Thank you for the mail as a whole, you've succinctly wrapped up the
> issues in a much clearer way than I could!
> 
> With regards to your last comment (included above), just bear in mind
> that in the UK, should you be arrested and requested to hand over your
> decryption keys, you are required to comply with that request, by law,
> under RIPA 
> (http://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000/Part_III).
> For many that won't be an issue, but just bear it in mind.
> 
> Regards,
> --
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> 

It gets worse?
http://falkvinge.net/2012/07/12/in-the-uk-you-will-go-to-jail-not-just-for-encryption-but-for-astronomical-noise-too/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Michael 

On 05/09/13 19:04, Gareth France wrote:

On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted 
Libre Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.

Thanks, Michael.

Erm Highlight the document in your file browser, right click and 
select delete?


I tried, but it does not work, right click just opens it and there is no 
delete option available.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Gordon 
Which means that you're trying to delete the file from within LOT rather
than from within the File manager.
On Sep 5, 2013 8:56 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> On 05/09/13 19:09, John Oliver wrote:
>
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>> On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre
>>> Office document and can not
>>>
>> find a way, can anybody assist please.
>>
>>> Thanks, Michael.
>>>
>>>  Can you locate the file in your file manager/explorer? If you can, try
>> clicking it and pressing the delete key on the keyboard.
>>
> Yes, the delete key will remove the content when select all is used but
> then Libre Office rebuilds the folder with the same content, i have never
> before seen a problem like this.
> Thanks.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Michael 

On 05/09/13 19:09, John Oliver wrote:

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On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:

I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre Office 
document and can not

find a way, can anybody assist please.

Thanks, Michael.


Can you locate the file in your file manager/explorer? If you can, try
clicking it and pressing the delete key on the keyboard.
Yes, the delete key will remove the content when select all is used but 
then Libre Office rebuilds the folder with the same content, i have 
never before seen a problem like this.

Thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document. Thread Closed, thanks

2013-09-05 Thread John Oliver 
On 05/09/13 21:51, Michael wrote:
> On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
>> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted
Libre Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
>> Thanks, Michael.
>>
> Gentlemen, thank you again for your help, the route Nautilus-rubbish
bin route was used and the problem is resolved.
> Many thanks, Michael.D
> .
>
Please therefore scratch the last message I sent - I hadn't received the
one above at that time!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread John Oliver 
On 05/09/13 21:37, Michael wrote:
> On 05/09/13 19:04, Gareth France wrote:
>> On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
>>> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted
Libre Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
>>> Thanks, Michael.
>>>
>> Erm Highlight the document in your file browser, right click and
select delete?
>>
> I tried, but it does not work, right click just opens it and there is
no delete option available.
> Thanks, Michael
>
Assuming you're on the current version of Ubuntu, it reads "Move to
Recycle Bin", not "Delete".

What happens if you delete the file with LibreOffice closed?
Upon restarting LO does the file become recreated with the same content
as before?
What file type is it?
Just to confirm, this is in the /home/[user]/Documents folder?


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[ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Michael 
I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre 
Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document. Thread Closed, thanks

2013-09-05 Thread Michael 

On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre 
Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.

Thanks, Michael.

Gentlemen, thank you again for your help, the route Nautilus-rubbish bin 
route was used and the problem is resolved.

Many thanks, Michael.D
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés 
El 05/09/2013 19:26, "John Oliver"  escribió:
>
>
> >
> > I think the problem is that he finds the file on the dash. He will not
be able to delete from there.
> >
> > Sorry not near a computer now.
> >
> >
> >
>
> In that case, if you are in the dash, which is the large menu from the
button in the top-left, search for the file you want to delete, right click
it, and then select "Show in Folder". This will open the correct folder in
the file manager, and should automatically select the appropriate file. You
can then right-click on the file and select "Move to the Rubbish Bin".
>
> You can then delete it permanently by opening the Rubbish Bin (Bottom
left of the screen), selecting it, and then deleting it again in the manner
described above.
>
Thank you! Beat me to it.
Though I meant he problably is using dash. I do not know what he is using.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Daniel Llewellyn 
On 5 September 2013 18:45, Michael  wrote:

> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre
> Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
> Thanks, Michael.
>

either:

   - right click the file in the file manager -> click delete
   - left click the file in the file manager and drag it to the waste
   basket followed by opening waste basket and clicking the "empty" button
   - in terminal type `rm /full/path/to/libreofficedocument.ext` (path,
   filename and extension will be specific to your file)

there are other methods that I haven't mentioned but, basically, deleting a
libreoffice document is exactly the same as deleting any other file on the
system; there is no magic incantation to perform and no (d)RAMs need
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Deleting unwanted Libre Office Document.

2013-09-05 Thread Simon Greenwood 
On 5 September 2013 21:37, Michael  wrote:

> On 05/09/13 19:04, Gareth France wrote:
>
>> On 05/09/13 18:45, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried the Libre Office site, I want to delete an unwanted Libre
>>> Office document and can not find a way, can anybody assist please.
>>> Thanks, Michael.
>>>
>>>  Erm Highlight the document in your file browser, right click and
>> select delete?
>>
>>  I tried, but it does not work, right click just opens it and there is no
> delete option available.
> Thanks, Michael
>
>
It sounds like you're trying to delete a lock file, which is owned by root
and is created by LibreOffice when the file being edited is open, so you
can't actually delete it yourself. When the document is closed in
LibreOffice the lock file will be deleted.

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