Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series
Very interesting, cheers for that. I'm pretty sure my next machine is *not* going to be a mac, but still want something really performant & cool-looking. :) (I'll be spending a lot of time, there, after all.) The S series was about the best spec non-apple laptop that I found in my noodling around -- although if there were any recommendations, here, I'd be grateful to hear 'em. Cheers, Doug. On 1 July 2012 23:50, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 1 July 2012 23:17, doug livesey wrote: > >> Hi -- has anyone got Ubuntu up & running on a Sony Vaio S series? >> I've read a little bit that suggests there may be difficulties with the >> graphics drivers, which switch between two modes. >> Just wondered, is all -- I was fantasising about a new machine & playing >> with the online configurers, and the Vaio S series looks bloody lovely! :) >> >> > There are open source Intel HD 4000 drivers according to Phoronix, and for > another £100 you can have an Nvidia card that is supported through > Additional Drivers. You could always go to a Sony store with a Live USB ;) > > s/ > -- > Twitter: @sfgreenwood > "TBA are particularly glib" > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series
Hi Please note that I am not saying that you will have an ugly experience like I had. I also chose the laptop because of its ips display and performance and all the other great things that it has. I would just double check with them along the lines of - "I have looked through the forums and found that a lot of s series are very noisy for a laptop"... (this is true)..." could you please confirm that of I get a laptop like that you will refund it as it is not working normally,. Also make sure that they give you proof ((written if possible) that they will refund an overheating laptop and that they will refund a cto model. That way you are covering yourself in the first place against most things that can happen. I don't know, maybe the new ivy bridge ones are better than mine was. Please note that it wasn't just loud, it was unbearable to be next to. If you play your cards right and mention that there is no bs of cto models being non refundable (in terms and conditions) before you buy they are unlikely to try to play that trick on you. But as the previous person said, Take ubuntu into the shop and see if it works. The fingerprint reader doesn't work by the way, and maybe the slice battery may not work, but not sure about that one. In terms of alternatives (not a mac) you may wish to have a look at hp, and possibly lenovo and Asus. Less known but you my find something you like. If you are buying it for the ips panel be warned : it won't beat a decent ((600 pound) Desktop panel at all and there is a grand total of 5 laptops with ips panels in the world at the moment, so your choice may be limited. Hope this helped On Jul 2, 2012 10:05 AM, "doug livesey" wrote: > Very interesting, cheers for that. > I'm pretty sure my next machine is *not* going to be a mac, but still want > something really performant & cool-looking. :) > (I'll be spending a lot of time, there, after all.) > The S series was about the best spec non-apple laptop that I found in my > noodling around -- although if there were any recommendations, here, I'd be > grateful to hear 'em. > Cheers, >Doug. > > On 1 July 2012 23:50, Simon Greenwood wrote: > >> >> >> On 1 July 2012 23:17, doug livesey wrote: >> >>> Hi -- has anyone got Ubuntu up & running on a Sony Vaio S series? >>> I've read a little bit that suggests there may be difficulties with the >>> graphics drivers, which switch between two modes. >>> Just wondered, is all -- I was fantasising about a new machine & playing >>> with the online configurers, and the Vaio S series looks bloody lovely! :) >>> >>> >> There are open source Intel HD 4000 drivers according to Phoronix, and >> for another £100 you can have an Nvidia card that is supported through >> Additional Drivers. You could always go to a Sony store with a Live USB ;) >> >> s/ >> -- >> Twitter: @sfgreenwood >> "TBA are particularly glib" >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series
On Jul 2, 2012 9:05 AM, "doug livesey" wrote: > Very interesting, cheers for that. > I'm pretty sure my next machine is *not* going to be a mac, but still want > something really performant & cool-looking. :) > (I'll be spending a lot of time, there, after all.) > The S series was about the best spec non-apple laptop that I found in my > noodling around -- although if there were any recommendations, here, I'd be > grateful to hear 'em. > Cheers, >Doug. > > On 1 July 2012 23:50, Simon Greenwood wrote: > >> >> >> On 1 July 2012 23:17, doug livesey wrote: >> >>> Hi -- has anyone got Ubuntu up & running on a Sony Vaio S series? >>> I've read a little bit that suggests there may be difficulties with the >>> graphics drivers, which switch between two modes. >>> Just wondered, is all -- I was fantasising about a new machine & playing >>> with the online configurers, and the Vaio S series looks bloody lovely! :) >>> >>> >> There are open source Intel HD 4000 drivers according to Phoronix, and >> for another £100 you can have an Nvidia card that is supported through >> Additional Drivers. You could always go to a Sony store with a Live USB ;) >> >> As I've related before, I got a System 76 machine which are pretty good value before the delivery from the US and customs costs. They're sold in this country under the Clevo brand - pcspecialist.co.uk sell them, and they are very configurable. Not exactly Ultrabooks but decent machines and will support Ubuntu as is, possibly with the System76 drivers, although I recently upgraded mine from 11.10 to 12.04 and it seemed to be fine without them. s/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 09:20 +0100, Anton Kanishchev wrote: > If you play your cards right and mention that there is no bs of cto > models being non refundable (in terms and conditions) before you buy > they are unlikely to try to play that trick on you. Hi Anton, I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that distance selling laws in the UK give you the same type of consumer protection as if you bought it over the counter: If the object is "not of merchantable quality" i.e. broken or does not meet the advertised specification, you have to reject it in writing. You can then send it back for a full refund and the original seller must also refund your postal costs. I did this recently with a laptop battery which tests showed was only half the capacity that the seller was claiming. Cheers, Barry T -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the Vaio S series
On 2 July 2012 13:10, Barry Titterton wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 09:20 +0100, Anton Kanishchev wrote: > > If you play your cards right and mention that there is no bs of cto > > models being non refundable (in terms and conditions) before you buy > > they are unlikely to try to play that trick on you. > > Hi Anton, > > I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that distance selling laws in the > UK give you the same type of consumer protection as if you bought it > over the counter: If the object is "not of merchantable quality" i.e. > broken or does not meet the advertised specification, you have to reject > it in writing. You can then send it back for a full refund and the > original seller must also refund your postal costs. I did this recently > with a laptop battery which tests showed was only half the capacity that > the seller was claiming. > > Cheers, > > Barry T > > > It's all here, if you need to assert your (UK) statutory rights http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/consumer_e.htm Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04
If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be a case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home directory at all? In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04
On 02/07/12 21:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be a case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home directory at all? In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu? I gather that Mint has it's own customisations, so I guess it depends if the installer wipes everything other than everything in /home. If in doubt, boot from a live CD/DVD and backup your home directory somewhere. It's better to have a backup that you can copy back over if it all goes wrong. :-) Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04
Is your /home directory on another partition or the same as the Mint system? Either way, take a backup somewhere to be sure nothing happens (I've had my power go out in the middle of an install before... it happens!) If your /home is separate, it should be safe, if not... Ubuntu will probably wipe it. On 2 July 2012 22:13, Rob Beard wrote: > On 02/07/12 21:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >> >> If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be a >> case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home >> directory at all? >> In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I >> need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu? >> > I gather that Mint has it's own customisations, so I guess it depends if the > installer wipes everything other than everything in /home. > > If in doubt, boot from a live CD/DVD and backup your home directory > somewhere. It's better to have a backup that you can copy back over if it > all goes wrong. :-) > > Rob > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Replacing Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04
On 3 July 2012 02:21, Daniel Case wrote: > Is your /home directory on another partition or the same as the Mint > system? Either way, take a backup somewhere to be sure nothing happens > (I've had my power go out in the middle of an install before... it > happens!) > > If your /home is separate, it should be safe, if not... Ubuntu will > probably wipe it. If /home is not in a separate partition then when installing ubuntu, if you select the "Something Else" option in the installer and then select the existing root partition to install into but do /not/ select the Format option for that partition then Ubuntu should install into that partition but should leave /home unaffected. The proviso to this is that I have never tried it installing on top of a Mint partition, but I don't know of any reason why that should make a difference. My recommendation would therefore be to make sure that your backups are up to date (and check that any important data is actually there in the backup, preferably by trying to restore it somewhere) and then go for it. Another proviso is that if you leave /home as it is then there may, or may not, be conflicts between what Ubuntu expects to see there and what Mint has left there. Again I don't know of any specific issues, but I do not know that there are none. If the worst comes to the worst you have your backups and can do a full Ubuntu install and then restore the data. All you have lost is some time. Colin > > On 2 July 2012 22:13, Rob Beard wrote: >> On 02/07/12 21:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >>> >>> If I want to replace Linux Mint 13 with Ubuntu 12.04, will it just be a >>> case of installing over the top, and if so will that affect my Home >>> directory at all? >>> In other words if I do this will my Home directory stay intact or do I >>> need to back it up then restore after installation of Ubuntu? >>> >> I gather that Mint has it's own customisations, so I guess it depends if the >> installer wipes everything other than everything in /home. >> >> If in doubt, boot from a live CD/DVD and backup your home directory >> somewhere. It's better to have a backup that you can copy back over if it >> all goes wrong. :-) >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
