[ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Matthews]

My invidia card her been working ok for ages now, but suddenly I get an 
update, go to reboot andit now wont work. When I click on the invidia 
link in System Administration, it now tells me

'You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X drivier. Please edit your x 
configuration file (just run 'nvidia-config' as root0 and restart the 
server.


How do I do that, and why should that suddenly turn off It was ok up 
till today. Very annoying.

Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[Daniel M. Drummond]

On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 11:06 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
> just run 'nvidia-config' as root and restart the 
> server.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Stevenson]

On 6 June 2010 11:06, John Matthews  wrote:

> My invidia card her been working ok for ages now, but suddenly I get an
> update, go to reboot andit now wont work. When I click on the invidia
> link in System Administration, it now tells me
>
> 'You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X drivier. Please edit your x
> configuration file (just run 'nvidia-config' as root0 and restart the
> server.
>
>
> How do I do that, and why should that suddenly turn off It was ok up
> till today. Very annoying.
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>

It could be that the update changed the configuration, if so this is a bug.
You can check by looking at the time stamps for the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
and see if it is the same time as you update.

In a terminal window, type the following command:
ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*

To fix this you could try running the following command:
sudo nvidia-xconfig


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

[pmgazz]

On 05/06/10 14:32, Alan Bell wrote:
>
> where? and do join #ubuntu-uk.
>
#fossbox - but it's not really used
>>
>>  
> I don't tend to see joins and parts happening, but it is perfectly
> possible to have a bot in a channel that greets people the first time it
> has seen them. (not sure we want this in #ubuntu-uk but I have seen it
> in other places)
>
Yes, if one has a bot/time to build, agree and deploy a bot - I used to 
run channels on Dalnet using chan bots - but 'newbie' IRC users will not 
understand that they're being addressed by a bot and will become even 
more confused when they try to continue the conversation and the bot 
jus' sit there and say nuffin' . . .
>
> It really isn't
> the same as a call centre type support model but it is better, the trick
> is adjusting expectations and allowing people to understand how
> community support works.
>
Well, I did think about just sending them to #ubuntu-uk - but I've never 
had any success in getting VCOs to adjust their expectations around IT - 
they hate it and want someone else to fix it. If you want to deal with 
them, I'm happy to send them to #ubuntu-uk but they're pretty 
time-consuming if you don't have remote access - and it's mostly about 
recalcitrant printers, corrupted .docx files, file permissions, crashed 
Evolution inboxes etc. Mostly it's just stuff they actually need basic 
IT training for. If it's an actual bug requiring CLI intervention, you 
haven't really got a prayer without remote access.
> you might also be interested in the Ubuntu NGO project, #ubuntu-ngo on
> freenode and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO if you are not already.
>
I didn't, and I will :)

Thanks,
Paula

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Matthews]

On 06/06/10 12:11, John Stevenson wrote:
> It could be that the update changed the configuration, if so this is a 
> bug.  You can check by looking at the time stamps for the file 
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if it is the same time as you update.
>
> In a terminal window, type the following command:
> ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
>
> To fix this you could try running the following command:
> sudo nvidia-xconfig

jake...@jakewc2-desktop:~$ ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1312 2010-06-06 13:05 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1305 2010-06-06 13:05 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  305 2010-06-06 07:15 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-100606071518
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  305 2010-04-19 15:15 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-201004191515
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  269 2010-06-06 07:15 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe


that is what I got from running that. I tried running

sudo nvidia-xconfig

and I got this

Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'


does that help at all?

Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Stevenson]

On 6 June 2010 13:09, John Matthews  wrote:

> On 06/06/10 12:11, John Stevenson wrote:
> > It could be that the update changed the configuration, if so this is a
> > bug.  You can check by looking at the time stamps for the file
> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if it is the same time as you update.
> >
> > In a terminal window, type the following command:
> > ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
> >
> > To fix this you could try running the following command:
> > sudo nvidia-xconfig
>
> jake...@jakewc2-desktop:~$ ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1312 2010-06-06 13:05 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1305 2010-06-06 13:05 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  305 2010-06-06 07:15
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-100606071518
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  305 2010-04-19 15:15
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-201004191515
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  269 2010-06-06 07:15 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
>
>
> that is what I got from running that. I tried running
>
> sudo nvidia-xconfig
>
> and I got this
>
> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
>
>
> does that help at all?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>

If you are still having a problem, then it only confirms your configs were
updated.  Have you restarted your desktop, you can do that by login out and
loging back in again.

If you are still having problems, is the only problem that you cant run the
nvidia-settings tool?

I am assuming that if the nvidia-settings tool is not running, then you dont
have 3D effects (compiz) on you desktop and cant do any other 3D stuff.

You could try to use one of the earlier config files and logout/in each
time.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Matthews]

On 06/06/10 17:19, John Stevenson wrote:


If you are still having a problem, then it only confirms your configs 
were updated.  Have you restarted your desktop, you can do that by 
login out and loging back in again.


If you are still having problems, is the only problem that you cant 
run the nvidia-settings tool?


I am assuming that if the nvidia-settings tool is not running, then 
you dont have 3D effects (compiz) on you desktop and cant do any other 
3D stuff.


You could try to use one of the earlier config files and logout/in 
each time.

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Hi Yes, I am still having problems, if I go to change desktop background 
then visual effects, the try to change it from none, nothing works, it 
says its unable to. It was working perfectly till then. Really 
frustrating that is.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[Tony Pursell]

On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 17:33 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
> On 06/06/10 17:19, John Stevenson wrote: 
> > 
> > If you are still having a problem, then it only confirms your
> > configs were updated.  Have you restarted your desktop, you can do
> > that by login out and loging back in again.
> > 
> > If you are still having problems, is the only problem that you cant
> > run the nvidia-settings tool?
> > 
> > I am assuming that if the nvidia-settings tool is not running, then
> > you dont have 3D effects (compiz) on you desktop and cant do any
> > other 3D stuff. 
> > 
> > You could try to use one of the earlier config files and logout/in
> > each time.
> > 
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> 
> 
> Hi Yes, I am still having problems, if I go to change desktop
> background then visual effects, the try to change it from none,
> nothing works, it says its unable to. It was working perfectly till
> then. Really frustrating that is. 
> 
> John
> 
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You probably are suffering from this bug

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/467668

It stops you changing Visual Effect, or if you do, then they are gone
when you reboot,

Tony



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Stevenson]

On 6 June 2010 17:33, John Matthews  wrote:

>  On 06/06/10 17:19, John Stevenson wrote:
>
>
> If you are still having a problem, then it only confirms your configs were
> updated.  Have you restarted your desktop, you can do that by login out and
> loging back in again.
>
> If you are still having problems, is the only problem that you cant run the
> nvidia-settings tool?
>
> I am assuming that if the nvidia-settings tool is not running, then you
> dont have 3D effects (compiz) on you desktop and cant do any other 3D stuff.
>
>
> You could try to use one of the earlier config files and logout/in each
> time.
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> jr0cket.com
> leanagilemachine.com
>
>
>
> Hi Yes, I am still having problems, if I go to change desktop background
> then visual effects, the try to change it from none, nothing works, it says
> its unable to. It was working perfectly till then. Really frustrating that
> is.
>
> John
>
It sounds like you are running the open source driver for your graphics card
and not the nvidia closed source driver.  The open source driver does not
support 3D, but should work well as a desktop in all other respects.

In System > Administration > Hardware Drivers it should tell you if the
nvidia driver is activated and will let you activate the driver if its not.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

[Alan Bell]

pmgazz wrote:
> On 05/06/10 14:32, Alan Bell wrote:
>   
>> where? and do join #ubuntu-uk.
>>
>> 
> #fossbox - but it's not really used
nope, it isn't!
>
> Yes, if one has a bot/time to build, agree and deploy a bot - I used to 
> run channels on Dalnet using chan bots - but 'newbie' IRC users will not 
> understand that they're being addressed by a bot and will become even 
> more confused when they try to continue the conversation and the bot 
> jus' sit there and say nuffin' . . .
>   
yeah, not saying it is a great idea to have a greeter bot, but if the
issue is idle people not noticing a new arrival who doesn't say hi then
that is one solution to that specific issue
>> It really isn't
>> the same as a call centre type support model but it is better, the trick
>> is adjusting expectations and allowing people to understand how
>> community support works.
>>
>> 
> Well, I did think about just sending them to #ubuntu-uk - but I've never 
> had any success in getting VCOs to adjust their expectations around IT - 
> they hate it and want someone else to fix it. If you want to deal with 
> them, I'm happy to send them to #ubuntu-uk but they're pretty 
> time-consuming if you don't have remote access - and it's mostly about 
> recalcitrant printers, corrupted .docx files, file permissions, crashed 
> Evolution inboxes etc. Mostly it's just stuff they actually need basic 
> IT training for. If it's an actual bug requiring CLI intervention, you 
> haven't really got a prayer without remote access.
>   
sounds just fine, send them in.
>> you might also be interested in the Ubuntu NGO project, #ubuntu-ngo on
>> freenode and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NGO if you are not already.
>>
>> 
> I didn't, and I will :)
>
> Thanks,
> Paula
>
>   


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia card turned off

[John Matthews]

On 06/06/10 17:47, John Stevenson wrote:
It sounds like you are running the open source driver for your 
graphics card and not the nvidia closed source driver.  The open 
source driver does not support 3D, but should work well as a desktop 
in all other respects.


In System > Administration > Hardware Drivers it should tell you if 
the nvidia driver is activated and will let you activate the driver if 
its not.


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Yay, that worked. The drivers installed, and I just put the Extras for 
the desktop and ist working. Brilliant, thank you, and thank you to 
everybody else who helped too. I really appreciate it. :)


John.

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