[Ubuntu-manual] p18: Specifying partitions manually

[Yann Ubuntu]

Dear all,

The following paragraph is incorrect:

"It can also be used to create a separate /home partition. This can be
very useful in
case you decide to reinstall Ubuntu, as it allows you to format and reinstall
the operating system, whilst keeping all your personal files and program
settings intact in a separate partition."

Explanation: Since Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu
keeping /home folder intact, even if the /home is inside / . You just
have to partition manually and set / in the old / partition (and keep
the same login/password, and same file format). For those who
understand French, see http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/reinstallation_ubuntu.
I don't know where the English equivalent is. (if needed I can
complete the English wiki, just tell me).

So if you want to talk about separate /home, I propose the following :
"It can also be used to create a separate /home partition. This can be
useful in case you use several GNU/Linux distributions on the same
computer, allowing you to share the same personal files and program
settings between them."

By the way, the most frequent use of manual partitionning IMHO is for
creating dual-boot, when the default dual-boot options are not
satisfactory. I think to mention it would be more usefull for beginers
than the separate /home.

Regards,
Yann - ubuntu-fr team

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[Ubuntu-manual] p20 warning on crypted home folder

[Yann Ubuntu]

Concerning the warning p20:

If you choose this option, be careful not to enable automatic login at a later
date. It will cause complications with your encrypted home folder, and will
potentially lock you out of important files.


for my own information, is there a Launchpad bug filled for this ?

Thank you in advance.
Yann

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[Ubuntu-manual] p22 : layout to be corrected

[Yann Ubuntu]

p22: " Enter to continue." is alone between the two screenshots.
Could we put it on the previous page ?
(and we should find a solution so that it won't happen with
translations if they are longer than the English version)

Regards
Yann

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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] p18: Specifying partitions manually

[Jeremy Bicha]

Yann, that is amazing. I knew that previously Linux wouldn't let me
install without repartitioning the hard drive. I'll have to try this
out. Thanks!

Google Translate does a good job of converting the article to English;
too bad it's blocked in my country (but Google Chrome manages to get
around this automagically with its built-in translator interface).

Jeremy

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Yann Ubuntu  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The following paragraph is incorrect:
>
> "It can also be used to create a separate /home partition. This can be
> very useful in
> case you decide to reinstall Ubuntu, as it allows you to format and reinstall
> the operating system, whilst keeping all your personal files and program
> settings intact in a separate partition."
>
> Explanation: Since Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu
> keeping /home folder intact, even if the /home is inside / . You just
> have to partition manually and set / in the old / partition (and keep
> the same login/password, and same file format). For those who
> understand French, see http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/reinstallation_ubuntu.
> I don't know where the English equivalent is. (if needed I can
> complete the English wiki, just tell me).
>
> So if you want to talk about separate /home, I propose the following :
> "It can also be used to create a separate /home partition. This can be
> useful in case you use several GNU/Linux distributions on the same
> computer, allowing you to share the same personal files and program
> settings between them."
>
> By the way, the most frequent use of manual partitionning IMHO is for
> creating dual-boot, when the default dual-boot options are not
> satisfactory. I think to mention it would be more usefull for beginers
> than the separate /home.
>
> Regards,
> Yann - ubuntu-fr team
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] p22 : layout to be corrected

[Jamin Day]

This is a LaTeX issue. Kevin assures me that once we are past writing freeze
(less than 24 hrs away) he will reshuffle placement of screenshots etc to
address things like this.

Thanks,

JaminDay

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Yann Ubuntu  wrote:

> p22: " Enter to continue." is alone between the two screenshots.
> Could we put it on the previous page ?
> (and we should find a solution so that it won't happen with
> translations if they are longer than the English version)
>
> Regards
> Yann
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] p18: Specifying partitions manually

[Jamin Day]

Can anyone confirm this? It makes sense I guess, as if you elect not to
format the partition it wouldn't need to overwrite your home folder,
although I would like to try it first with a dummy virtualbox install.

Yann, although your suggestion may improve the original statement, it
is *technically
*not incorrect as it stands (it still does allow you to easily reinstall
without touching /home), so we will probably leave as is for this release.
We'll check it out and maybe re-visit for 10.10 release.

Thanks for the info,

JaminDay

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Jeremy Bicha  wrote:

> Yann, that is amazing. I knew that previously Linux wouldn't let me
> install without repartitioning the hard drive. I'll have to try this
> out. Thanks!
>
> Google Translate does a good job of converting the article to English;
> too bad it's blocked in my country (but Google Chrome manages to get
> around this automagically with its built-in translator interface).
>
> Jeremy
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Yann Ubuntu 
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > The following paragraph is incorrect:
> >
> > "It can also be used to create a separate /home partition. This can be
> > very useful in
> > case you decide to reinstall Ubuntu, as it allows you to format and
> reinstall
> > the operating system, whilst keeping all your personal files and program
> > settings intact in a separate partition."
> >
> > Explanation: Since Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu
> > keeping /home folder intact, even if the /home is inside / . You just
> > have to partition manually and set / in the old / partition (and keep
> > the same login/password, and same file format). For those who
> > understand French, see http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/reinstallation_ubuntu.
> > I don't know where the English equivalent is. (if needed I can
> > complete the English wiki, just tell me).
> >
> > So if you want to talk about separate /home, I propose the following :
> > "It can also be used to create a separate /home partition. This can be
> > useful in case you use several GNU/Linux distributions on the same
> > computer, allowing you to share the same personal files and program
> > settings between them."
> >
> > By the way, the most frequent use of manual partitionning IMHO is for
> > creating dual-boot, when the default dual-boot options are not
> > satisfactory. I think to mention it would be more usefull for beginers
> > than the separate /home.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yann - ubuntu-fr team
> >
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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 546289] Re: (Inconsistent) use of apt-get and aptitude

[Benjamin Humphrey]

** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
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(Inconsistent) use of apt-get and aptitude
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Bug description:
On page 143, the method of package management 'apt-get' is used, while the 
package management section starting from page 127 is using aptitude.

There was a discussion in the wiki team which to use and they came to the rule: 
use apt-get. It would be a very strange move for the manual to use aptitude 
instead.

I know this is a controversial subject, but I think that for the sake of 
consistency between manual and wiki, the manual must use apt-get.

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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 546867] Re: Factual error Chapter 6 "aptitude autoremove"

[Benjamin Humphrey]

** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
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** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
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Bug description:
Pages 128/129
aptitude does not have an "autoremove" option. The functionality described is 
achieved by using the "autoclean" option.



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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 545983] Re: Something is not right in page 124

[Benjamin Humphrey]

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Bug description:
In page 124 we have: 

"...Do not give administration privileges to all users to make administration
easier."

I think that there's something wrong with that, it should be: 

"To make administration easier, do not give administration privileges to all 
users."

What do you think?



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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 533444] Re: symbols for closing etc. of windows changed side

[Benjamin Humphrey]

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With the new layout, the buttons for closing etc. of windows moved from right 
to left



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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 544777] Re: No nomenclature at the start of the manual

[Benjamin Humphrey]

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No nomenclature at the start of the manual
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Bug description:
We need a way to show the reader what different types of formatting mean, ie, a 
"key."

I suggest the best place for this is at the end of the prologue.



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[Ubuntu-manual] Translation template import - ubu-man-website-translations in Ubuntu Manual main

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Hello Ubuntu Manual Team,

On 2010-03-31 15:10z (59 minutes ago), you uploaded a translation
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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 546295] Re: Confusing use of 'gksudo' in 'sudo' paragraph

[Benjamin Humphrey]

Changed the example to use sudo instead.

** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
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** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
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Bug description:
On page 127, gedit is started with the 'gksudo gedit' command. While this is 
the correct way of handling a GUI-app with sudo, I think there must be a 
sidenote explaining the difference or just give the example 'sudo gedit' 
(because the implications are very, very minimal).

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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 546299] Re: Use of sudo in terminal without explanation on password

[Benjamin Humphrey]

Added a margin note that explains sudo and that when using it in a
terminal your password is not shown.

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** Changed in: ubuntu-manual
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Bug description:
On page 94, the first use of the 'sudo' command is shown. But in contrast to 
all the other places where sudo is mentioned in the manual, this particular 
part does not say that you won't see your password while you are typing (as a 
sidenote).

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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 543768] Re: Synaptic is sometimes used when Software center works as well

[Benjamin Humphrey]

Fixed.

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Bug description:
I fount two instances where the manual tells the user to use Synaptic instead 
of the Software Center. Using the Software center is preferable since its user 
friendlier and Synaptic probably won't be included by 10.10 (or even in Lucid, 
see bug#506498)

On page 137 (troubleshooting -> Some text looks incorrect or corrupted) the 
manual tells the user to use synaptic to install the package 
"tts-mscorefonts-installer". In Lucid the package can also be installed through 
the Software Center as "Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts" (tested in 
beta1)

Also on page 137 (troubleshooting ->I can’t play certain audio or video files, 
or interact with some web-sites)  the manual says to use synaptic instead of 
the Software Center to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras (name in the 
Software Center: "Ubuntu restricted extras")



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[Ubuntu-manual] Translation template import - ubu-man-website-translations in Ubuntu Manual main

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fatal, but please correct them if you can.

Line 268: We got a second header.

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[Ubuntu-manual] Translation template import - ubu-man-website-translations in Ubuntu Manual main

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[Ubuntu-manual] 5 Hours till writing freeze, beta release, quickshot

[Benjamin Humphrey]

Hi everyone!

I know we've all been working flat out for the last week. We're almost
there! In 5 hours we'll have something that resembles the final product and
it's going to look great. From now till then though, we need to get every
single man to the pumps to scour the manual for any spelling mistakes or
typos or missing apostrophes. Let's make one final push before  UTC when
the writing freeze occurs!

Hurrah!

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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 544777] Re: No nomenclature at the start of the manual

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We need a way to show the reader what different types of formatting mean, ie, a 
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I suggest the best place for this is at the end of the prologue.



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[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 521045] Re: partitioning using mb boundaries

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Status in Gnome Partition Editor: New
Status in Ubuntu Manual: Invalid
Status in “parted” package in Ubuntu: New
Status in “partman-auto” package in Ubuntu: New
Status in “parted” package in Debian: Fix Released

Bug description:
Binary package hint: partman-auto

I would like to give people a try using ubuntu 
but I fear to setup some trouble for them if they use win7.
This isssue is described here:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+question/99298
It is a MS related partitioning bug.

To get around there are 3 ways possible:

C) Most easily: You typically purchased a notebook where there are 3 primary 
partitions. Ubuntu Release Notes should mention that in case of dual boot  you 
should only create one primary root partition not any more ! (no swap, no home, 
no further extended)

B) A more sophisticated approach: Since Vista Windows needs a megabyte free 
space just in front of every first primary partition and a megabyte free space 
in front of every first logical partition in every extended partition. 
Partition your disk accordingly or give Windows7 Partitioniong Tool a try to 
configure your harddisk appropriet for a linux install (more easy?)

C) Feature request: make linux partitioning tools feature a windows7 compatible 
mode.



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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] for Czech translators

[Martin Lukeš]

Takže na předchozí mail, ani do padu mi nikdo nenapsal. To už mi nedělejte,
bylo mi smutno. :(

Mám ale dvě dobré zprávy!

   1. Pokud jste si toho náhodou ještě nevšimli, tak je nás už *7* a další
   budou přibývat (snad). ;)
   2. Doplnil jsem náš pad http://etherpad.com/vqiLG0S84d
   Klidně ho ale ještě doplňujte a opravujte. Budu jenom rád.


*Vzhůru do překládání! :D*

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P.S.: Please keep the communication history


2010/3/28 Martin Lukeš 

> Pro sjednocení překladu jsem založil tenhle 
> texťák[1], kam bychom si mohli dávat pravidla 
> a ustálené pojmy pro překládání UMP.
> Kromě základních věcí (viz. wiki Ubuntu Czech 
> Translators[2])budu
>  rád, když se o všem bude diskutovat. Částečně bychom si tím také mohli
> nahradit absenci pole pro "důvod překladu" v Rosettě.
> Zatím tam toho moc není, takže když na něco přijdete, tak šup tam s tim. ;)
>
> A ještě jedna věc. Zkuste mi, prosím, napsat cokoliv do tohohle vlákna,
> nebo do chatu v uvedeném texťáku. Rád bych věděl, kolik českých překladatelů
> tu v současnosti máme. ;)
>
>
> ... už jen pár dní ...
>
>
> [1] http://etherpad.com/vqiLG0S84d
> [2] http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/P%C5%99ekladatelsk%C3%BD%20slovn%C3%ADk
>
> ---
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>
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