Re: Canonical's future
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 15:24 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > I'm actually gonna go against the grain and say that I reckon the > release of > Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity is going to benefit Canonical and make them > even > bigger than what they are already. Bigger isn't always better. What we want is a healthy Canonical in partnership with a healthy investment partnerships as well as a healthy community ecosystem. I don't agree with being told to pick one of the three. Martin, -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Oneiric topic] IPv6
Etienne Goyer schreef op ma 18-04-2011 om 17:03 [-0400]: > Any other major roadblock beside the above? I am going to sift > through the bugs tagged ipv6 on Launchpad, but if there's anything > obvious I missed, please let me know. > > Finally, a question to consider is whether we want to address the > IPv6-only use-case (ie, not dual-stack, no IPv4 configuration). This > has some implications, notably around d-i and NetworkManager. Few > networks are IPv6-only at this time, but it's bound to change in the > near future. Also important here: the Ubuntu websites, the main archive/download server, and many mirrors don't support IPv6 currently... When you do an IPv6-only install (and you have no local mirror), it would be nice if an IPv6-capable mirror is configured in sources.list ;) -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Oneiric topic] IPv6
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Claeys wrote: > Etienne Goyer schreef op ma 18-04-2011 om 17:03 [-0400]: >> Any other major roadblock beside the above? I am going to sift >> through the bugs tagged ipv6 on Launchpad, but if there's anything >> obvious I missed, please let me know. >> >> Finally, a question to consider is whether we want to address the >> IPv6-only use-case (ie, not dual-stack, no IPv4 configuration). This >> has some implications, notably around d-i and NetworkManager. Few >> networks are IPv6-only at this time, but it's bound to change in the >> near future. > > Also important here: the Ubuntu websites, the main archive/download > server, and many mirrors don't support IPv6 currently... > > When you do an IPv6-only install (and you have no local mirror), it > would be nice if an IPv6-capable mirror is configured in > sources.list ;) Well, I didn't mention this precisely because the mirrors and other services aren't IPv6 ready, but I thought it would be nice if the UDS infrastructure was at least v6 ready: that you can get addresses, etc. Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Canonical's future
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 08:24, Chris Jones wrote: > I'm actually gonna go against the grain and say that I reckon the release of > Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity is going to benefit Canonical and make them even > bigger than what they are already. > I agree that Unity will help Canonical's OS differentiate itself from other Linux-based OSes, but it won't be 11.04 that does it. I suppose give them another two releases with Unity, until the next LTS, to see how Ubuntu will no longer be yet another Linux-based OS. Sort of how OS-X is not another *BSD. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Oneiric topic] IPv6
Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre schreef op za 30-04-2011 om 14:18 [-0400]: > Well, I didn't mention this precisely because the mirrors and other > services aren't IPv6 ready, Some mirrors are IPv6-ready, e.g. the ones operated by BIT (nl.archive.ubuntu.com aka ubuntuarchive.bit.nl), BelNet (ftp.belnet.be) and HeaNet (ie.archive.ubuntu.com aka ubuntu.ftp.heanet.ie). > but I thought it would be nice if the UDS > infrastructure was at least v6 ready: that you can get addresses, etc. If people want to update/install from IPv6-ready mirrors, I'm sure those 3 don't mind a little bit of extra traffic... ;-) Another idea: why not do an IPv6-only day at UDS to test what works and what not? If the infrastructure allows that of course... -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Oneiric topic] IPv6
Hi, I've run IPv6 on my local network and through a IPv6inIPv4 tunnel for a while. Here's what I would bring up if I were at UDS on the subject of IPv6 on Ubuntu: o One thing I just discovered is that a maverick VM that only has an IPv6 only connection (and even an IPv6 mirror or apt package cache configured) will not detect the natty upgrade through the update manager. If you run check-new-release you get the right result, and if you run do-release-upgrade it knows, but Update manager doesn't know until you give it a IPv4 connection and then have it recheck for updates. Once it knows, it will complain if of not being able to get the release notes if it is switched back to v6 only. o It also seems like by default network manager ignores IPv6 even if it is available on the current network. (Already mentioned) o Also, it would be nice to have support for DHCPv6 by default without installing and configuring dibbler-client. As far as I can tell, ubuntu doesn't support DHCPv6 out of the box (Disclaimer: I only had a DHCPv6 server running on my for a short period of time. I figured it wasn't worth the trouble to run a dhcpv6 server just to point to IPv6 DNS servers.) (Already mentioned) o Network Manager has no settings tab for IPv6 on PPPoe connections. I'm not sure if there's any standards for IPv6 over PPPoe yet. o Implementing a checkbox in NM for IPv6 Privacy addresses got postponed. Is that a goal for Oneiric, or is it currently postponed indefinitely? [0] o +1 For IPv6 reachable ubuntu websites. o Maybe UFW should be IPv6 enabled by default? [0]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/176125 -- Erik Andersen -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
