Re: Load 2.0, idle 99% ?
Olá Markus e a todos. On Monday 01 February 2010 18:47:13 Markus Hitter wrote: > All processes show up near 0% as well. > > How can a cpu be loaded and idle at the same time? What should I > watch out for to track down the bug (of at least the display being > stuck)? powertop and atop tend to show really good hints in this cases. ps and yes, finally i returned to the ML :P -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Can we get ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in Lucid?
> Hi, > > It will need manually merging from Debian in order to get the new > version in to Lucid. We have quite a lot of changes in the Ubuntu > packaging compared to Debian, which all need to be preserved. > > Regards > Chris Thanks for your help Chris. Do we need to make sure that ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 gets into squeeze before the LTSDebianImportFreeze? Or will a developer take care of this and the manual merging you describe once the updated version appears in Debian, as long as it occurs before the FeatureFreeze? best, stephan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Atftp not working
Hi, I am facing the following problem while trying to transfer files using atftp in Ubuntu 9.04. Can any one help me out. # atftp tftp> put abc.txt source port mismatch, check bypassedtimeout: retrying... source port mismatch, check bypassedtimeout: retrying... source port mismatch, check bypassedtimeout: retrying... source port mismatch, check bypassedtimeout: retrying... source port mismatch, check bypassedtimeout: retrying... source port mismatch, check bypassedtimeout: retrying... tftp: aborting And if i use tftp # tftp tftp> put abc.txt sent WRQ sent WRQ sent WRQ sent WRQ sent WRQ Transfer timed out Thanks & Regards, Pranab -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
The 9.10 boot loader progress bar
I'm wondering why starting from 9.10 the boot loader started to be an infinite loop progressbar (like windows always does)?? it was better in previous versions that I'm able to track the percent of loaded and what's remaining, or at least know that there is a progress (in slow computers) instead of staying like that without knowing whether the loader hangs and will never load or there is a slow progress and the user will watch waiting it ... If this was because gathering the information before starting the loader for a progress-bar tracking takes some time, then I believe +|- 2 seconds is not the big deal that prevents this feature from existing ... or what's your thoughts? One more thing is that, the loading could be cooler for some ppl (like me) if it was text-based not graphical (like before that or like servers), to watch out what's happening (eg. problems, errors, notices ... etc) so if there was a key (like ESC) to switch, and an option to make it permanent text-based boot. -- Amahdy AbdElAziz IT & Development Manager 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Broken package with ppa of Empathy (Ubuntu)
Hello I Think that the Empathy's package is broken in the ppa I'm using a Kubuntu-Karmic (KDE) with the ppa activated : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/telepathy/ubuntu karmic main LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install empathy Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: empathy: Depends: empathy-common (= 2.29.5.1-1~ppa9.10+2) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: nautilus-sendto-empathy but it is not installable Recommends: freedesktop-sound-theme but it is not installable E: Broken packages BTW, Empathy is already installed on my system, but I cannot update it : LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: empathy Is there any trick to do ? Have a nice day Laurent -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Thunderbird 3 for lucid
Please, include Thunderbird 3 in Lucid. Thanx! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Samba 3.4.4
MPR wrote : > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Klaas TJEBBES > wrote: >> Will Samba 3.4.4 be released for Ubuntu in a near future ? > > The Samba in Debian testing is at 3.4.3 [1] so it would be best to > help Samba 3.4.5 [2] which is in unstable get into testing before 11 > February which is when the Debian package import freezes for Lucid. > > [1] http://packages.debian.org/testing/samba > [2] http://packages.debian.org/sid/samba > Does this mean that whatever happens, Samba 3.4.4 will be packaged for Lucid before February the 11th ? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Samba 3.4.4
MPR wrote : > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Klaas TJEBBES > wrote: >> Does this mean that whatever happens, Samba 3.4.4 will be packaged for Lucid >> before February the 11th ? > > No. The developers are taking packages from Debian testing for Lucid. > Debian testing only has 3.4.3 at the moment. 3.4.4 will be skipped > because 3.4.5 is already in Debian unstable. If 3.4.5 can move from > unstable into testing before the Lucid import freeze then Lucid will > have 3.4.5. Otherwise, Lucid will have 3.4.3. > Ok, thank you for this information. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
General graphic equaliser in Pulse Audio for Lucid
Hi All Regarding the next release of Ubuntu (Lucid), I was wondering if the most recent version of Pulse Audio will be included. The reason that I am asking is because I have been working with some developers regarding a general graphic equalizer for ubuntu that ties in with Pulse Audio. Posts here :- http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308838 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1378087 The current version of Pulse audio (under development) is found here with instructions :- http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/SystemEqualizer A system wide graphic equalizer is a wanted feature (and not just for myself). Is this something that we can include once development has been completed (there are a few bugs at the moment). His question has been raised at :- https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+question/98940 And I have been asked to ask you if this could be implemented. Regards Richard -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Bogus values with adhoc networks
Hi! I am using connection sharing to connect my ipod to the internet (wlan to notebook, umts to internet). After suspending I get bogus values for my connection sharing. The developer told me that this is fixed in commit 64a04447c3d2248ab1aac7f6c220346dad0e1921 Author: Dan Williams Date: Wed May 27 20:55:15 2009 +0300 wext: don't force-disconnect in ad-hoc mode Otherwise the driver might interpret the request as a request to create/join a new adhoc network with the bogus SSID. Signed-off-by: Dan Williams in wpasupplicant. Could you apply this fix? Thank you, g -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Question about this list
Excerpts from Amahdy's message of Wed Jan 27 21:19:30 -0500 2010: > If other developers put sometime to make life easier (and faster) for us. > There is a user interface, a browser, an email client ..etc, then only > because I like the keyboard I'll use terminal?? I do like terminal and I use > it many times to facilate my life through commands, but I said to "facilate" > because I know the command and I can type it faster than mouse movement, but > not beause I'm a terminal fan then I must do everything on it. Of course. Always use the right tool for the job. > So my new question here is (which probably I asked before but here is > re-formed): > What exactly terminal commands or program that those ppl use to read the > list mails, maybe I'll get convienced and as I asked before I want to know > so that I can use this list better because for me it's currently very hard > to use. > I used to be a mutt user and it worked fine for moderate email volumes. I've since switched to sup[1] and have found that allows me to organize my email with far greater ease than mutt would although still suffers from some major drawbacks. I am currently putting together some patches for asynchronous subprocess support in vim so that it can be used as a usable frontend for notmuch[1]. When I have finished this, I'll be switching to notmuch, which in my opinion seems to be the ideal mail management solution. As I mentioned in my original reply, I use procmail and spamassassin for mail filtering and have been quite happy with it. > One thing to mention, under windows, for example to change something in the > taskbar without mouse: press win-logo, press it again (it will be > activated), press tab then tab till you reach the taskbar, then press the > right-click-input, then choose from the menu, now tell me if this is could > be easily done (by default) under Ubuntu? indeed Ubuntu was designed to be > very user friendly that the design lack a support for the developers who > lover keyboard, their only alternative is commands over terminal, yet there > is not a default shortcut-key to open the terminal. > What exactly do you want to do? I only rarely find myself using the mouse for window management. I use compiz and have it configured quite nicely. That notwithstanding, one can perform pretty much anything using nothing but Alt-Tab and Alt-Space. The lack of a default is intentional. Users differ in their preferences and Ubuntu (in general) tries not to impose any key bindings that aren't already widely accepted by users. Keybindings are readily configurable, however, in the Keyboard Shortcuts configuration applet. - Ben -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
ZODB missing files
The xml file that are used by ZConfig are missing. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
make udev ignore vmware virtual interfaces
Would it be possible to change /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules to ignore vmware virtual interfaces the same way it currently ignores xen virtual interfaces? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Thunderbird 3 for lucid
Am Donnerstag, den 28.01.2010, 07:49 -0500 schrieb Jonathan-Marc Lapointe: > Please, include Thunderbird 3 in Lucid. You can follow the progress by watching the bug report https://launchpad.net/bugs/314668 You can subscribe to this bug, mark it affecting you, and silently watch it. -- Benjamin Drung Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Maintainer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: General graphic equaliser in Pulse Audio for Lucid
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Richard Didd wrote: > Regarding the next release of Ubuntu (Lucid), I was wondering if the most > recent version of Pulse Audio will be included. Lucid already ships the most current stable-queue branch of PA (which does not contain the eq code). There are no plans to ship what's in master (which does contain the eq code) unless there is a formal release of it made very soon. Because Lucid is an LTS, we're focusing on stability not the addition of features. > Is this something that we can include once development has been completed > (there are a few bugs at the moment). The target release should be 10.10 (Lucid+1). Best, -Dan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The 9.10 boot loader progress bar
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 02:29 +0200, Amahdy wrote: > I'm wondering why starting from 9.10 the boot loader started to be an > infinite loop progressbar (like windows always does)?? This was discussed at length during the last few days. Check this thread in the archives: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-January/010492.html -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The 9.10 boot loader progress bar
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 20:08 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 02:29 +0200, Amahdy wrote: > > I'm wondering why starting from 9.10 the boot loader started to be an > > infinite loop progressbar (like windows always does)?? > > This was discussed at length during the last few days. Check this thread > in the archives: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-January/010492.html Which was, as I realize now, a discussion started by you in the first place. You really should get yourself a proper email client to follow the list, then you would not miss such things. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The 9.10 boot loader progress bar
Olá MPR e a todos. On Monday 25 January 2010 17:32:47 MPR wrote: > I'm a highly-technical user and I like having no text during boot. My > laptop goes from the HP logo to black screen and then the Ubuntu logo. > It looks nice, clean, and professional. If something goes wrong, I can > always hit esc to make the GRUB menu come up at boot and edit the > entry to remove "quiet splash" to see the messages for debugging. You mean left shift, cause ESC does nothing in GRUB2 -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Olá Rene e a todos. On Friday 29 January 2010 06:59:34 Rene Veerman wrote: > I've often got more than 20 windows open while coding. > > On windows, one can shift-alt-tab to move back 1 spot in the list of > apps you're alt-tabbing through.. > > can ubuntu do the same? by default, please? I've seen this in several installs. Its a bug, cause another compiz plugin shares the same shortcut, so it does nothing at all. Probably the other plugin should default to another shortcut, but then you will see users of such plugin complain sigh -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
ok i got compizconfig setting manager installed, but can't find a way to search which plugin has which keybinding. do i need to check all the pages of each enabled plugin? :( 2010/2/2 (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo : > Olá Rene e a todos. > > On Friday 29 January 2010 06:59:34 Rene Veerman wrote: >> I've often got more than 20 windows open while coding. >> >> On windows, one can shift-alt-tab to move back 1 spot in the list of >> apps you're alt-tabbing through.. >> >> can ubuntu do the same? by default, please? > > I've seen this in several installs. > Its a bug, cause another compiz plugin shares the same shortcut, so it does > nothing at all. > Probably the other plugin should default to another shortcut, but then you > will see users of such plugin complain > > sigh > > -- > BUGabundo :o) > (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org > Linux user #443786 GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB > http://BUGabundo.net > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
Olá Rene e a todos. Please avoid Top-Posting, and use and abuse of Snipping. Thanks in advance. Reply below: On Tuesday 02 February 2010 21:28:07 Rene Veerman wrote: > ok i got compizconfig setting manager installed, but can't find a > way to search which plugin has which keybinding. > do i need to check all the pages of each enabled plugin? :( You can do a search (advance search) for keybindings. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: alt-tab; need shift-alt-tab too.
2010/2/2 (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo : > You can do a search (advance search) for keybindings. ok, it says is bound to "application switcher", "prev window". seems correct to me? but it doesn't work in the alt-tab window with thumbs of open apps. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Help needed
Hi there, i'm developing a tour system for Ubuntu. The idea is present the users something to look if they don't know what Ubuntu is, also could be a little help for those without internet connection or for those who needs guidance installing the system. The framework is almost ready on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-welcome-window but i need a little help to define animations, scripting and narrations. Check the blueprints to more information. Let's finish this before the beta. Cheers, Brian, aka dael99. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Thunderbird 3 for lucid
El 28/01/10 09:49, Jonathan-Marc Lapointe escribió: > Please, include Thunderbird 3 in Lucid. > > Thanx! > > I'm using it and it's great!. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Focus of the introduction for programmers
It could sound like a fanboy, but using a powerful IDE is the best choice for programers new to Ubuntu. And I think Eclipse is the right for this tasks. There are plugins for bzr (whic I use). But a little more love from the community would help a lot. What I mean is centralize all the work on this IDE placing Tutorials, special Ubuntu modules (libindicate, libnotiy, etc.) And go for a few languages, like Python and C++. Take all this installed from the start (of the Eclipse installation) with the Davig Siegel's idea to work with bugs, put there auto-packaging tools or PPA (like fat-jar) or patch sending. All this will improve the workflow of fixing bugs. Also Quickly (a very useful tool!) integrated in Eclipse will make doing new projects really easy. > Hi Sense > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Sense Hofstede wrote: > >> Maybe then we should add pointers to information about contributing to >> upstream projects. >> However, the Ubuntu Website, Ubuntu Drupal, Lernid, Apport, >> Desktopcouch, *Indicator, Jockey and many other projects could also be >> listed. >> > I agree with what you're saying, although imho if you're serious about > becoming an Ubuntu contributor on any type of technical level you'll > probably want to learn packaging. You might not want to do sponsorship > work or merges or anything MOTU-specific, but knowing how to provide > patches and being able to upload your own code and bug fixes seems > very useful. I think they should be pointed to packaging in addition > to what you propose above, and also other tools that are used across > Ubuntu such as bzr. > > -Jonathan > > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Removing Ubuntu releases, just Ubuntu
Olá Dmitrijs e a todos. On Saturday 16 January 2010 01:07:34 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > Have you ever tried running development release from day 1? I do it in VM and > in no way it is usable as everyday desktop. Going a bit OT here, but since Ubuntu 6.10 beta I've been running devel versions and I'm still here. both karmic and lucid from as early as week one. Yes there are problems, yes you must be somewhat ready for this, but it works. and the best part, you are helping to get a better release. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) Ubuntu LoCoTeam Portugal http://ubuntu-pt.org Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB http://BUGabundo.net -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Removing Ubuntu releases, just Ubuntu
Am Mittwoch, den 03.02.2010, 00:04 + schrieb (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo: > Olá Dmitrijs e a todos. > > On Saturday 16 January 2010 01:07:34 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > > Have you ever tried running development release from day 1? I do it in VM > > and in no way it is usable as everyday desktop. > > Going a bit OT here, but since Ubuntu 6.10 beta I've been running devel > versions and I'm still here. both karmic and lucid from as early as week one. > Yes there are problems, yes you must be somewhat ready for this, but it > works. and the best part, you are helping to get a better release. But sometimes it won't boot, destroy your MBR, or eat your data, ... You can use the development version, but not for a production system. -- Benjamin Drung Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Maintainer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Focus of the introduction for programmers
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:56 -0300, Brian Vidal Castillo wrote: > It could sound like a fanboy, but using a powerful IDE is the best > choice for programers new to Ubuntu. > And I think Eclipse is the right for this tasks. I'd agree to that. Eclipse is very powerful. I've used it extensively and it's hard to beat. Add to this that it is also cross-platform and is one of the most common IDE on Windows and Mac and a large number of developers used to work in those environments feel at home with Eclipse. > > There are plugins for bzr (whic I use). > But a little more love from the community would help a lot. Some of the things that would be very useful are standard packages for the pydev plugin, a bzr plugin and a .deb packaging plugin. [snip] > > I agree with what you're saying, although imho if you're serious about > > becoming an Ubuntu contributor on any type of technical level you'll > > probably want to learn packaging. You might not want to do sponsorship > > work or merges or anything MOTU-specific, but knowing how to provide > > patches and being able to upload your own code and bug fixes seems > > very useful. I think they should be pointed to packaging in addition > > to what you propose above, and also other tools that are used across > > Ubuntu such as bzr. > > > > -Jonathan I agree and I think that's an area that needs work. As an experienced developer on other platforms, I find packaging to be the biggest challenge to being able to contribute code because it is Ubuntu (or rather Debian) specific and I can't relate it easily to what I know. Learning Python when you know other OO languages is not too difficult, nor is learning bzr when you know svn; but the wheels come off when it comes to packaging because producing a .deb feels a lot more complicated than producing a .jar for a Java application to the uninitiated like me. Bruno -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: make udev ignore vmware virtual interfaces
Hello Matthew,
Matthew M. Boedicker [2010-01-25 11:47 -0500]:
> Would it be possible to change
> /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules to ignore vmware virtual
> interfaces the same way it currently ignores xen virtual interfaces?
I don't have VMWare, so I need some help with this: Can you please do
"ubuntu-bug udev" in such a vmware instance (this will attach the udev
dump, etc.) and point out which interfaces should be ignored? After
filing, please assign the bug to me ("pitti").
Thanks,
Martin
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Re: Focus of the introduction for programmers
2010/2/3 Bruno Girin : > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:56 -0300, Brian Vidal Castillo wrote: >> It could sound like a fanboy, but using a powerful IDE is the best >> choice for programers new to Ubuntu. >> And I think Eclipse is the right for this tasks. > > I'd agree to that. Eclipse is very powerful. I've used it extensively > and it's hard to beat. Add to this that it is also cross-platform and is > one of the most common IDE on Windows and Mac and a large number of > developers used to work in those environments feel at home with Eclipse. > >> >> There are plugins for bzr (whic I use). >> But a little more love from the community would help a lot. > > Some of the things that would be very useful are standard packages for > the pydev plugin, a bzr plugin and a .deb packaging plugin. > > [snip] > >> > I agree with what you're saying, although imho if you're serious about >> > becoming an Ubuntu contributor on any type of technical level you'll >> > probably want to learn packaging. You might not want to do sponsorship >> > work or merges or anything MOTU-specific, but knowing how to provide >> > patches and being able to upload your own code and bug fixes seems >> > very useful. I think they should be pointed to packaging in addition >> > to what you propose above, and also other tools that are used across >> > Ubuntu such as bzr. >> > >> > -Jonathan > > I agree and I think that's an area that needs work. As an experienced > developer on other platforms, I find packaging to be the biggest > challenge to being able to contribute code because it is Ubuntu (or > rather Debian) specific and I can't relate it easily to what I know. > Learning Python when you know other OO languages is not too difficult, > nor is learning bzr when you know svn; but the wheels come off when it > comes to packaging because producing a .deb feels a lot more complicated > than producing a .jar for a Java application to the uninitiated like me. > > Bruno > > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > Maybe Ubuntu should endorse a certain development environment and certain approaches to development (e.g.: GConf or Desktopcouch?) in order to make starting with development and starting with developing for Ubuntu easier. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede [ˈsɛn.sə ˈɦɔf.steːdə] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
