Re: [Torios] The Technical Side of ToriOS

2014-05-30 Thread Nio Wiklund
2014-05-28 21:18, Jörn Schönyan skrev:
> Am Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014, 21:10:30 schrieben Sie:
>> 2014-05-28 21:04, Jörn Schönyan skrev:
>>> Am Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014, 20:23:22 schrieb Nio Wiklund:
 2014-05-28 15:47, Jörn Schönyan skrev:
> Hello team!
>
> I want to share the current results. Ali and the Ubuntu GNOME team gave
> me
> a lot of help for this. As for now, I have modified a script from Ubuntu
> GNOME before they went an  official flavour. You can download it from my
> Google drive:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5KBmyjlQESwRGFYNEhsN3FPLVk/edit?usp=sh
> a
> ring
>
> Most things are commented or self-explanatory. You need the original
> Ubuntu
> iso for this (mostly for conf files and needed .debs that are on it).
>
> Run it, for example with:
>
> sh live-cd-script.sh customize i386 ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
>
> That assumes that the Ubuntu iso is in the same directory. Just to
> mention,
> only JWM will start, nothing else (Wicd, Rox-Filer for the desktop
> background). For this, we need some JWM configs. With that you are able
> to
> experiment. It is actually based on 14.04, for 12.04 some things are
> different - but no big magic. Now, just some thoughts:
>
> * 14.04 would be (in my view) a better way to start. For example, JWM in
> 12.04 is unsupported. The same for Rox-Filer and other stuff. In 14.04,
> we don't have to care about that, at least for a bit more than one year
> from now. After that we have to fix that stuff ourself.
>
> * Is someone able to create a Plymouth theme? There are also needed:
> some
> replacement pictures for Grub2, a desktop wallpaper.
>
> Thanks for your time, mates!

 Hi Jörn,

 I'll have a lng look at this.

 Best regards
 Nio
>>>
>>> Hi Nio, if you have any questions feel free to ask :D
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention, for me it takes 1-2 hours to remaster the iso (Core
>>> i5, third generation with 8GB RAM).
>>>
>>> Regards, Jörn
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1. Will this system stay within its directory tree, or will things go
>> outside it? In other words, should I do it in a separate OS (in a
>> multi-boot computer, or can it be done in a general purpose OS?
> Yes, it will. You can make a directory "ToriOS", place the uncompressed files 
> and the original Ubuntu iso in it and run the command an everything will stay 
> in that folder.
>> 2. Is there any manual intervention when running the scripts? Or should
>> I prepare everything before starting it, and it runs until finish as a
>> batch job?
> In a clean environment everything works automatically. So just don't forget
> 
> sh live-cd-script.sh clean i386
> 
> if you want to retry. Just to mention, you need to be root for everything the 
> script does. You also need to install squashfs-tools, genisoimage, 
> debootstrap 
> and lzma (if I didn't forget anything). I am also running it on my normal 
> production machine.
>> Best regards
>> Nio
> 

Hi Jörn,

I was able to make a working ToriOS iso file according to your scripts
and instructions. They were complete :-)

I made the iso file into a hybrid iso file, so that I can boot it from
USB as well as from CD/DVD.

The size of the isofile is 498 Mibibytes and
the size of the tarball is 343 Mibibytes.

Of course ToriOS is at the alpha stage, but it is working live and
installed. I took some notes during the first testing (with Swedish
locale), but I have reinstalled into English, and right now I am
creating a tarball for the OBI-9w installer ... done.

The size of the isofile is 498 Mibibytes and
the size of the tarball is 343 Mibibytes.

When I have made an OBI-9w iso file and it has passed my tests, I will
upload the iso files for testing. I hope many of you are prepared to
test them at least in VirtualBox and compare how they work with low RAM.

- Notes -

Testing in my computer 'April-2008' with

ASUS M2N-VM motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+, 2.3 GHz (dual core)
RAM 2 GB DIMM DDR2 800 MHz
onbord nvidia graphics (geforce 7050 PV / nforce 630a), running
well with nouveau

Waiting for network configuration (at the Ubuntu Plymouth screen)
Booting without full network configuration (after 2 minutes)

JWM desktop with black background and panel at the bottom

free -m: 103 MB (in the live session)

I could run gparted an repartition a drive ...

Next time (after reboot) I did not press on the keyboard, and this
time the installer booted into a panel with a debian background and
the choice to test or install ToriOS. I started to install (with the
graphical 'desktop' installer).

The installation finished nicely ...

Next time (after reboot) I booted into the installed system, which
still waits and then boots without full network configuration
(after 2 minutes).

A log in screen and then the JWM desktop with black background and
panel at the bottom. No background picture in the insta

Re: [Torios] The Technical Side of ToriOS

2014-05-30 Thread Jörn Schönyan
Am Freitag, 30. Mai 2014, 14:14:54 schrieb Nio Wiklund:
> Hi Jörn,
> 
> I was able to make a working ToriOS iso file according to your scripts
> and instructions. They were complete :-)
Really good!

> Waiting for network configuration (at the Ubuntu Plymouth screen)
> Booting without full network configuration (after 2 minutes)
Could be related with replacing network-manager with wicd.
> JWM desktop with black background and panel at the bottom
Correct, because no autostart is enabled (for example, rox -p=Desktop should 
be in the autostart, but that needs to be configured in JWM.
> uname -r shows that it runs the 3.13.0.27-generic kernel (which is
> a pae kernel).
Yes, normal Ubuntu kernel. We can easily deploy Phill's nonpae Kernel instead, 
though.

Jörn

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Re: [Torios] The Technical Side of ToriOS

2014-05-30 Thread Nio Wiklund
2014-05-30 15:14, Jörn Schönyan skrev:
> Am Freitag, 30. Mai 2014, 14:14:54 schrieb Nio Wiklund:
>> Hi Jörn,
>>
>> I was able to make a working ToriOS iso file according to your scripts
>> and instructions. They were complete :-)
> Really good!
> 
>> Waiting for network configuration (at the Ubuntu Plymouth screen)
>> Booting without full network configuration (after 2 minutes)
> Could be related with replacing network-manager with wicd.
>> JWM desktop with black background and panel at the bottom
> Correct, because no autostart is enabled (for example, rox -p=Desktop should 
> be in the autostart, but that needs to be configured in JWM.
>> uname -r shows that it runs the 3.13.0.27-generic kernel (which is
>> a pae kernel).
> Yes, normal Ubuntu kernel. We can easily deploy Phill's nonpae Kernel 
> instead, 
> though.
> 
> Jörn
> 

Hi everybody,

There are two iso files at my google drive ToriOS folder

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B46yhFQuJvfPZzZ6aThReldScWs&usp=sharing

(should be one line, but is split by the email program)

with the following md5sums

eb8ef992fe485828934a447bf815009b  obi_ToriOS-a1-9w.iso
e1a11686c825bc2e046a1852e763a9ef  ToriOS-i386-20140530.iso

and sizes and dates

498M2014-05-30  11:27   ToriOS-i386-20140530.iso
554M2014-05-30  19:06   obi_ToriOS-a1-9w.iso

ToriOS-i386-20140530.iso was created by Jörn's scripts and
obi_ToriOS-a1-9w.iso was created by my OBI-9w scripts from an installed
instance (created from ToriOS-i386-20140530.iso). I made them into
hybrid iso files, that work in CD and DVD but also as cloned into USB
drives.

The OBI-9w iso comes with an installed system

login user: guru
password: changeme

This can be changed with the OEM install option later on, so that the
end user can select user name and password 'as usual'.

So now we can easily test and compare the installers. Both installers
work with a lot of RAM and powerful processors, but I suggest that you
test by limiting RAM either in a virtual machine or in an old computer.
You can easily limit the available RAM with the boot option mem=xxxM
instead of messing with the memory cards.

This is a very early alpha version (or even pre-alpha version of
ToriOS). It has no cosmetics at all, but can give us a feeling of how
fast it can be and how well in can cope with different hardware. So you
can take part in the decisions about the basic concepts of ToriOS. For
example: It is based on 14.04 LTS. We use the JWM window manager and
Rox. You can run application programs from xterm.

xterm -fa default -fs 13

will give you a large and nice font (much easier to read than the
default xterm in a high resolution window).

Happy testing :-D

Nio

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