Re: [tor-relays] Fast Exit Node Operators - ISP in US

2014-11-25 Thread Syrup-tan
> On Nov 22, 2014, at 4:21 PM, s7r  wrote:
> 
> Depending on your budget, Voxility has a datacenter in the US.
> Unfortunately they provide only enterprise class servers with prices
> directly proportional to the class. Maybe we can manage to pool $ in
> order to create a bigger node with this provider if we find enough people.

I’d be interested in chipping into this.

Would this server suitable for an exit node? Might be a bit on the slow side 
with 2GB of DDR2 and a Pentium D 940
https://www.voxility.com/shop/hosting/discounted/Supermicro-5015M-LFF 
<https://www.voxility.com/shop/hosting/discounted/Supermicro-5015M-LFF>

Price-wise it would be ~$200 to buy the server (after purchasing a disk for 
it), $70 setup fee, and $56/month to colocate in Los Angeles or Miami.

That’d be ~$950 for the first year, and $672/year for the following years.

The colocation isn’t cheap to say the least, and it only gives 5TB/month unless 
we want to pay more per month;
https://www.voxility.com/shop/colocation/los-angeles/Equipment-Colocation-in-Los-Angeles-%28Equinix-LA1%29#Network
 
<https://www.voxility.com/shop/colocation/los-angeles/Equipment-Colocation-in-Los-Angeles-(Equinix-LA1)#Network>

Regards,
Syrup-tan~

> On Nov 22, 2014, at 4:21 PM, s7r  wrote:
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> I also share the thought that more US exit power is welcomed in the
> Tor network.
> 
> However, the fact that there is more exit power in the EU compared to
> the US has nothing to do with the legal implications of running a Tor
> exit, it's as simple as bandwidth is a lot cheaper in the EU than in
> the US. And for small relays run at home, US, as opposite to the EU,
> has asymmetric internet lines, with download speed considerably higher
> than upload speed - they think for a residential line you should only
> consume content, not create. Since a Tor relay needs to be able to
> receive as much as it sends, this is a bottleneck.
> 
> Depending on your budget, Voxility has a datacenter in the US.
> Unfortunately they provide only enterprise class servers with prices
> directly proportional to the class. Maybe we can manage to pool $ in
> order to create a bigger node with this provider if we find enough people.
> 
> On 11/23/2014 2:10 AM, Steve Snyder wrote:
>> On 11/21/2014 07:08 PM, SiNA Rabbani wrote:
>>> Dear Relay Operators,
>>> 
>>> I noticed there are very few US based exit nodes in the network.
>>> And more and more people are jumping on the same set of AS
>>> numbers in Europe.
>> [snip]
>>> If anyone is interested in running fast Tor Exit nodes at Rethem 
>>> Hosting. Feel free to contact me directly, so I can make proper
>>> referral/introductions. Rethem Hosting is also able to provide
>>> hosting In IceLand, but you get the most bang for your buck in
>>> the US datacenter.
>> 
>> I am interested in running a fast exit node in the US.
>> 
>> That said, there is precious little information on Rethem's web
>> site (http://www.rethemhosting.net/) to indicate that they would be
>> open to that. They don't say anything about what plans might be
>> offered, where the server would be located, or what forms of
>> payment are accepted.
>> 
>> Their web site is non-SSL and the only method of contact is via
>> the notoriously insecure e-mail.  I like graphics of binary numbers
>> and circuit board traces as much as the next guy, but their site
>> doesn't give much information to the potential customer.
>> 
>> And with your servers running for less than 3 days apiece, I think
>> it is too early to say if Rethem is a good venue for hosting a Tor
>> node.
>> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Fast Exit Node Operators - ISP in US

2014-11-27 Thread Syrup-tan
Turns out the colocation costs $672/year for the network, and another $780/year 
for power, so I don’t think Voxility is very feasible for an exit node without 
bargaining with them.

> If anyone knows of a good way of finding high-bandwidth budget
> dedicated servers (a search term or a list of providers, for example),
> please share. I expected there to be more of a market for this kind of
> thing than I've found.


I recently rented a dedi from Online.net <http://online.net/> 
(http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc 
<http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc>) which offers unmetered 
b/w, but I’ve heard bad things about the network.
I’ll do some testing this weekend on whether or not I can get the full 150Mb/s 
link.

> On Nov 27, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Libertas  wrote:
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> On 11/25/2014 02:29 PM, Syrup-tan wrote:
>> 
>> The colocation isn’t cheap to say the least, and it only gives
>> 5TB/month unless we want to pay more per month;
>> 
> 
> This may the largest logistical problem I've encountered when looking
> for dedicated servers intended to be exit nodes. For most providers,
> even expensive and powerful servers (16+ GB of RAM, 8+ cores) will
> come with 2-10 TB of monthly bandwidth. Because much cheaper servers
> can saturate a 100 Mbps link (IIRC) and thereby greatly exceed those
> limits, buying such packages just doesn't make sense. The additional
> bandwidth prices are usually strangely high, too. The pricing is often
> progressive - each additional terabyte costs more than the last.
> 
> If anyone knows of a good way of finding high-bandwidth budget
> dedicated servers (a search term or a list of providers, for example),
> please share. I expected there to be more of a market for this kind of
> thing than I've found.
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