[toaster] POP Relay Window

2004-03-29 Thread John Melville
Hi all,

I have a question about the new toaster version. I noticed that the 
relay window that used to be opened by successful POP checks was removed 
in vpopmail (roaming users?) being used.

One of the issues I've run across here is by removing that users can no 
longer use SMTP if they are listed in any of the RBLs, we like to use a 
few of those to cut back on spam and the dynamic IP ranges are 
especially useful blocked since that is where so much spam is coming 
from. Now however without the IP listed for tcpserver the use needs to 
make it past rblsmtpd before being allowed to use smtp-auth at all.

Anyone got any ways around this, alternatively is rebuilding vpopmail 
with roaming user support workable or does the installed vpopmail need 
to be unpatched first?

Thanks ...

John



Re: [toaster] POP Relay Window

2004-03-29 Thread Bill Shupp
John Melville wrote:

Hi all,

I have a question about the new toaster version. I noticed that the 
relay window that used to be opened by successful POP checks was removed 
in vpopmail (roaming users?) being used.

One of the issues I've run across here is by removing that users can no 
longer use SMTP if they are listed in any of the RBLs, we like to use a 
few of those to cut back on spam and the dynamic IP ranges are 
especially useful blocked since that is where so much spam is coming 
from. Now however without the IP listed for tcpserver the use needs to 
make it past rblsmtpd before being allowed to use smtp-auth at all.

Anyone got any ways around this, alternatively is rebuilding vpopmail 
with roaming user support workable or does the installed vpopmail need 
to be unpatched first?
This makes sense, as rblsmtpd is run *before* smtp-auth happens.  With 
roaming users, RELAYCLIENT is already set before rblsmtpd runs.  The 
best solution for you is to turn roaming-users back on.

Regards,

Bill


Re: [toaster] POP Relay Window

2004-03-29 Thread John Melville
Bill Shupp wrote:

This makes sense, as rblsmtpd is run *before* smtp-auth happens.  With 
roaming users, RELAYCLIENT is already set before rblsmtpd runs.  The 
best solution for you is to turn roaming-users back on. 


Thanks Bill, was hoping it was going to be that easy, wasn't sure if a 
special patch was used or it just wasn't enabled.





Re: [toaster] POP Relay Window

2004-03-29 Thread John Melville
I was just thinking and it might be an idea to leave the roaming users 
option in the toaster, at least as an additional option for those using 
the RBLs to stem the tide of spam. Not really required on a server with 
a fairly static range of accessing IPs but for others it is needed when 
used in combination with rblsmtpd, unless we can somehow get rblsmtpd to 
honor the SMTP-AUTH requests first, possibly new patch required? Then 
again the spammers would figure that out pretty quick and just send a 
fake smtp-auth request to get around the rbl check, dang we can't win! :)

John



[toaster] Re: POP Relay Window

2004-03-29 Thread Gary
John Melville writes:
Then again the spammers would figure that out pretty quick and just
send a fake smtp-auth 
request to get around the rbl check, dang we can't win! :) 

John 

I don't now. I thought smtp auth is used for relay.  If spammer is able to 
bypass the rbl, then, they can send email to your local domains. 

Gary