Re: [techtalk] Re; Smoking kills!

2000-12-16 Thread Telsa Gwynne

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 01:06:46AM +0100 or thereabouts, Magni Onsoien wrote:
> David Merrill:
> > > Sounds like a good idea. Should work in a washing machine as well,
> > > shouldn't it? I use to take mine intop the shower, that's also a bit
> > > cool. "I just had a shower with my keyboard today."
> > 
> > I think a washing machine would be quite hard on a keyboard! In the
> > dishwasher it is only exposed to sprays of water.
> 
> Uhm, yes, I thought of just putting the keys into the washing machine,
> not the board itself ;) It works with LEGO and most other small plastic
> items, not to talk about bras, so I guess keys will survive too :)

I cleaned my dec keyboard out simply by
(a) my husband demonstrating the necessity by shaking it over me
(there are times when I could cheerfully hit him...)
(b) giving it a good rattle myself over the bin
(c) pulling all the cruft I could find out of it.

However, I've always been very careful not to spill coffee (which I
drink continuously) or fizzy drinks (which I rarely drink) or grapefruit
juice (all the time) over it. I was surprised that coffee is such a
keyboard-killer but fixxy drinks are obvious, thinking about it. Sugar
and acid. Wonderful.

My husband says that once when someone spilled a fizzy drink over a
keyboard at university, they simply unconnected it, raced up to the
toilets, dumped it into a sink, turned the tap on, and covered it
utterly in water. Apparently this works if you're quick.

Telsa

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Re: [techtalk] Re; Smoking kills!

2000-12-16 Thread Magni Onsoien

Telsa Gwynne:
> I cleaned my dec keyboard out simply by
>   (a) my husband demonstrating the necessity by shaking it over me
>   (there are times when I could cheerfully hit him...)
>   (b) giving it a good rattle myself over the bin
>   (c) pulling all the cruft I could find out of it.
> 
> However, I've always been very careful not to spill coffee (which I
> drink continuously) or fizzy drinks (which I rarely drink) or grapefruit
> juice (all the time) over it. I was surprised that coffee is such a
> keyboard-killer but fixxy drinks are obvious, thinking about it. Sugar
> and acid. Wonderful.

Hehe :) Someone once spilled a bottle of Coke into som DEC-server some
years ago. The server continued and reached an uptime of ~400 days
before it sympathy booted together with it's sister.

But DEC keyboards may be washed as well. Someone spilled a glass of wine
in my bf's keyboard at a party, they cleaned it in the shower, removed
the keys, cleaned it again and left it to dry for three weeks (the long
time was because it was my bf's keyboard and the I shouldn't move it for
him. So it was just lying in a corner of the bathroom with lots of dust
for most of the period and should probably have been cleaned again...)


Magni :)
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[techtalk] [techtalk] Using CD-Rom drives with linux.

2000-12-16 Thread Tania M. Morell

hi,

CDRDAO sounds like what I need so I downloaded it along with pccts
(which is required to install cddrdao).  I installed pccts successfully,
but now when I go to install cdrdao, I get this, and the error at the
bottom:


[root@caladan cdrdao]# rpm --rebuild cdrdao-1.1.4-1.src.rpm
Installing cdrdao-1.1.4-1.src.rpm
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.74585
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
+ cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
+ rm -rf cdrdao-1.1.4
+ /bin/gzip -dc /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/cdrdao-1.1.4.src.tar.gz
+ tar -xf -
+ STATUS=0
+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
+ cd cdrdao-1.1.4
++ /usr/bin/id -u
+ '[' 0 = 0 ']'
+ /bin/chown -Rhf root .
++ /usr/bin/id -u
+ '[' 0 = 0 ']'
+ /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
+ /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,g-w,o-w .
+ exit 0
Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.85617
+ umask 022
+ cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD
+ cd cdrdao-1.1.4
+ export 'CFLAGS=-O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro
-march=pentiumpro -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations' 'CXXFLAGS=-O3
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro
-ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations'
+ CFLAGS=-O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro
-march=pentiumpro -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations
+ CXXFLAGS=-O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro
-march=pentiumpro -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations
+ ./configure i686-mandrake-linux --prefix=/usr --with-pcctsbin=/usr/bin
--with-pcctsinc=/usr/include/pccts
creating cache ./config.cache
checking host system type... i686-mandrake-linux-gnu
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s
-mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations
) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s
-mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations
) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes   
checking for c++... no
checking for g++... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s
-mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations
) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler
cannot create executables.
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.85617 (%build)
[root@caladan cdrdao]# 


sounds like my version of gcc is no good...  but I'm not sure..

Anyone know what this means about and how to fix it?

-T





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to get rid of the second of silence, you want "disk-at-once" recording
mode, which you can do with cdrdao.  Take a look at that doc above, and
the cdrdao page.  the compiling of it is slightly tricky, like there's
one dependency I think and you have to edit the makefile directly, but
it's not bad (got it going in probably less than an hour) and has worked
just great for me.

I have the exact commands I used to copy a music cd saved on my other
machine. if desperation sets in, let me know and i can dig it up.

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Re: [techtalk] Re; Smoking kills!

2000-12-16 Thread Conor Daly

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 03:52:54PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Magni Onsoien thought:
> 
> Hehe :) Someone once spilled a bottle of Coke into som DEC-server some
> years ago. The server continued and reached an uptime of ~400 days
> before it sympathy booted together with it's sister.
> 
> But DEC keyboards may be washed as well. Someone spilled a glass of wine
> in my bf's keyboard at a party, they cleaned it in the shower, removed
> the keys, cleaned it again and left it to dry for three weeks (the long
> time was because it was my bf's keyboard and the I shouldn't move it for
> him. So it was just lying in a corner of the bathroom with lots of dust
> for most of the period and should probably have been cleaned again...)
> 
> 
I find I'm too impatient to wait for it to dry.  I dismantle the board and
have a 45-minute session with a hairdryer on medium heat.  That gets it
mostly dry and I can live with the occassional 
 key remapping!

-- 
Conor Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Domestic Sysadmin :-)
-
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