[techtalk] Linux and UNIX

2000-10-06 Thread Lynn Kuhlman

Is Linux close enough to UNIX that I could ask some UNIX questions?

Thanks,
Lynn




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Re: [techtalk] Linux and UNIX

2000-10-06 Thread Patricia Jung

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 11:53:33PM -0700, Lynn Kuhlman wrote:
> Is Linux close enough to UNIX that I could ask some UNIX questions?

Depends on which Unix you're talking about and how detailed. 
As Linux is a Unix flavour, many things are similar or the same. 
However, when it comes to installation, special administration tools, GUIs,
etc. things can vary.

Thus: it depends on your question.  


Patricia

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Re: [techtalk] Linux and UNIX

2000-10-06 Thread sara ruohotie


> Is Linux close enough to UNIX that I could ask some UNIX questions?

imho it is. but you have to remember, that linux *isn't* unix, it's 
minix actually, it doesn't go with the unix standards.

and depending on the question you have, you might even get an answer 
which is correct :>

> Thanks,
> Lynn

sara

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Re: [techtalk] Multiple virtual host question/Apache

2000-10-06 Thread sara ruohotie


> Is there a reasonable limit to the amount of virtual hosts one should
> run on a server? For example, we're up to 5 virtual hosts on one web

well, we use apache on our isp's server and provide virtual hosting 
for our clients and yes, there are quite an amount of virtual hosts 
running at the same time and no, there's no problem we've faced at 
least. and besides RIPE (here in europe, ARIN in america) doesn't 
really support the idea of giving ip-addresses to web-hosting, they 
think that one should use virtual hosting. and no, there are no 
limits afaik.

sara

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Re: [techtalk] Linux and UNIX

2000-10-06 Thread Robert Wade



On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, sara ruohotie wrote:

> 
> > Is Linux close enough to UNIX that I could ask some UNIX questions?
> 
> imho it is. but you have to remember, that linux *isn't* unix, it's
> minix actually, it doesn't go with the unix standards.

No, Linux is not Minix at all. While it is true that Linux's creater used
Minix before he wrote Linux, any use of Minix elements was probably purely
coincidental. In fact, the reason Linus wrote Linux, iirc, was because of
his unhappiness with Minix. Now, would you pattern a creation after one
that you don't like so much?

Linus patterened Linux after UNIX, using UNIX and POSIX standards, giving
it nearly complete compatibility with any UNIX varient (that goes along
with UNIX and POSIX standards, that is), whether written completely
independently - as Linux was - or came from the UNIX source family, in the
case of Berkeley BSD UNIX.

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Re: [techtalk] Linux and UNIX

2000-10-06 Thread bill t



Fire off the questions. The worst we can say is that it isn't applicable to
linux. Most of us on this list are familar with more than one *nix anyway. I
suggest you try to mention the *nix in the question because there is slight
differences between the flavours.

Bill

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:53:33 -0700 (PDT), Lynn Kuhlman wrote:

>  Is Linux close enough to UNIX that I could ask some UNIX questions?
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[techtalk] thanks for DSL help

2000-10-06 Thread K. Ziel

I just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me so much during my DSL
angst.  As it turned out, it wasn't software at all, but a *huge* hardware
problem called my computer. 

thankfully, there was an extra computer at my job for me to use, as my old
computer can't even get through bios right now.  i think that the motherboard
got fried somehow...

in any case, i've now got DSL up and running, and i'm happier than imaginable!

Kristin

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[techtalk] RE: Not using Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread Angela Nash

Opera just released a new build of their Linux browser.  I'm playing with it
now and it's FAST.  Check it out.

Jason

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Re: [techtalk] Linux and UNIX

2000-10-06 Thread shad

Damn, you stole my thunder :-)

Cheers
Shad

Robert Wade wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, sara ruohotie wrote:
> 
> >
> > > Is Linux close enough to UNIX that I could ask some UNIX questions?
> >
> > imho it is. but you have to remember, that linux *isn't* unix, it's
> > minix actually, it doesn't go with the unix standards.
> 
> No, Linux is not Minix at all. While it is true that Linux's creater used
> Minix before he wrote Linux, any use of Minix elements was probably purely
> coincidental. In fact, the reason Linus wrote Linux, iirc, was because of
> his unhappiness with Minix. Now, would you pattern a creation after one
> that you don't like so much?
> 
> Linus patterened Linux after UNIX, using UNIX and POSIX standards, giving
> it nearly complete compatibility with any UNIX varient (that goes along
> with UNIX and POSIX standards, that is), whether written completely
> independently - as Linux was - or came from the UNIX source family, in the
> case of Berkeley BSD UNIX.
> 
> Robert Wade
> 
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Re: [techtalk] RE: Not using Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread curious

Btw here is a break down of cli browsers:
(please feel free to make any corrections your feel nessary)

links:
http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/
frames:yes
cookies:no
userauth:no
ssl:no
tables:yes
background-downloads:yes
mousesupport:yes

Comments: this would problably be my browser of choice if it supported
cookies/userauth/ssl the menus are nice and easy to use.. and beingable to
continue browsing while downloading is an added plus

w3m:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/w3m/homepage/
frames:yes
cookies:yes
userauth:yes
ssl:yes
tables:yes
background-downloads:no
mousesupport:yes

Comments:
a nice cli browser that seems somehow less "finnished" then links even
though it has lots more features... feature wise I would LOVE to have
backgrounding support..

lynx: (not to be confused with the OS of same name)
http://freshmeat.net/projects/lynx/homepage/
frames:no
cookies:yes
userauth:yes
ssl:yes(addon)
tables:no
background-downloads:no
mousesupport:no

Comments:
probably the most famous cli browser though it's quite heavy and less able
to properly present webpages with tables/frames

some day (RSN) I'll put up a table of cli browsers.. however I certianly
suggest people try these out.. you might be very surprised how much you
like browsing/searching with them.. if you've only used lynx in the past
prepare to be blown away by w3m and links!

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Re: [techtalk] RE: Not using Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread Laurel Fan

Excerpts from linuxchix: 6-Oct-100 Re: [techtalk] RE: Not usin.. by
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> lynx: (not to be confused with the OS of same name)
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> mousesupport:no

This should be yes.


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Re: [techtalk] RE: Not using Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread Conor Daly

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 12:34:13PM -0400 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Angela Nash thought:
> Opera just released a new build of their Linux browser.  I'm playing with it
> now and it's FAST.  Check it out.
> 
Er..  Where?

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Re: [techtalk] RE: Not using Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread Sunnanvind Briling

Curious wrote [about lynx]
   Comments:
   probably the most famous cli browser though it's quite heavy and less able
   to properly present webpages with tables/frames

Now, I haven't tried links, but the reason I use lynx over w3m (I have both installed, 
use both, but lynx a *lot* more) is that w3m won't display the page until it has 
downloaded the entire page. I often view pages that are like 70-80 screenfuls so lynx 
appears much speedier.
Sunnanvind.

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Re: [techtalk] RE: Not using Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread Glen Strom

>Er..  Where? (is Opera)

http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html


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