Re: Not using Netscape (was Re: [techtalk] Re: SMP on Linux (lockups))

2000-10-05 Thread Sunnanvind Briling

Jason wrote:
   The new builds of Mozilla are getting very good.  I've switched to it as my
   standard browser now.  Check out a new nightly build.  It also has a full
   featured IMAP mail client.

I have it installed for pages that need it, but it really eats a lot of memory. I use 
lavaps and mozilla uses more memory than anything else. I can't even listen to .oggs 
in xmms while mozilla is running.
I'm looking for a good browser (I wish that galeon would be available as a .deb now 
that mozilla is gpl [or is it yet?]. Alternatively, galeon could be released with 
exceptions to it's license. Though I haven't tried galeon yet, perhaps I won't like it 
at all, time will tell.)
I use lynx for almost 90% of my surfing and I do use Amaya occasionally.
I'll try konqueror in the future as well. Gah! Those "k"-names... blecch imho. (No 
offense to kde-coders, code is separate from style and design.)

Some friends of a friend are working on gtkhtml2, an html widget designed from scratch 
to be compatible with the new standards (such as css). They are working on a for-pay 
basis so they will be finished in the near future. It seems like a really nice 
project. They haven't released any code since they work with the cathedral method of 
small, dedicated teams, but the code will be released under the GPL later.

Sunnanvind (who's been away a while 'cause some libraries broke exim, and this morning 
I did an apt-get upgrade and a reboot, and exim started working but gdm stopped 
working, so I'm typing this from the console.)

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[techtalk] Re: Mozilla, etc. (was SMP, etc.)

2000-10-05 Thread malke

Thanks for all the suggestions about replacing Netscape.  I do have a
POP3 account, so kmail works fine for me.  The problem is that if you
want to quickly check out a web page referenced in a message, kfm will
automatically open and it doesn't do good downloads (I'm not sure it can
even do *any*, but that might just be my ignorance) and it can't handle
secure sites.  I have thought about Mozilla, but frankly was waiting for
it to be a bit more cooked.  I'll give it a try.

Best to all,

Malke
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Re: [techtalk] Re: Mozilla, etc. (was SMP, etc.)

2000-10-05 Thread Caitlyn M. Martin

malke wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the suggestions about replacing Netscape.  I do have a
> POP3 account, so kmail works fine for me.  The problem is that if you
> want to quickly check out a web page referenced in a message, kfm will
> automatically open and it doesn't do good downloads (I'm not sure it can
> even do *any*, but that might just be my ignorance) and it can't handle
> secure sites. 

You may want to consider upgrading to KDE2.  Konqueror will handle downloads
and secure sites correctly, I believe.  KMail is also much improved.

All the best,
Caity
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[techtalk] Multiple virtual host question/Apache

2000-10-05 Thread Yvonne Beever

Is there a reasonable limit to the amount of virtual hosts one should
run on a server? For example, we're up to 5 virtual hosts on one web
server (using Apache) and are considering adding another.  One opinion
has been voiced that the more you add, the easier it is for things to
break. My boss also asked about the number of httpd daemons running...
Someone here added more daemons to the server, he said, and he was
wondering if there were limits...

Thanks in advance...
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[techtalk] DLT computer tape storage

2000-10-05 Thread Judith Elaine Bush

Slightly off topic, but I need to store thousands of DLT computer
tapes which weigh about a pound each and are roughly 4.5" x 4.5" x
1.25". Has anyone else solved this problem or can anyone recommend a
vendor who builds custom storage boxes?

Thanks for your suggestions!

judith bush
the internet archive





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Re: [techtalk] Multiple virtual host question/Apache

2000-10-05 Thread Erin Clarke

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 01:59:29PM -0500, Yvonne Beever wrote:
> Is there a reasonable limit to the amount of virtual hosts one should
> run on a server? For example, we're up to 5 virtual hosts on one web
> server (using Apache) and are considering adding another.  One opinion
> has been voiced that the more you add, the easier it is for things to
> break. My boss also asked about the number of httpd daemons running...
> Someone here added more daemons to the server, he said, and he was
> wondering if there were limits...

The number of virtual hosts is largely limited by
system limits on the number of processes allowed to
run on the machine and on the system limit imposed 
on the number of file handles a child process can 
open (each virtual host opens 2 for access and error
log files, so 32 virtual hosts would use up a limit of
64, for example).

There are some options for controlling this in httpd.conf
with the following directives:
MaxClients, MaxRequestsPerChild, MaxSpareServers, 
MinSpareServers, StartServers.

See http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/directives.html
for more info on these and all other Apache directives.

The other consideration, which I think is among the 
opinions you've heard, is that a single httpd.conf for
a large number of sites is a single point of failure.

Errors in httpd.conf are usually human and not too 
difficult to find and fix, but it means *all* your
sites are 'down' while you troubleshoot, as opposed to
having multiple httpd.conf files (one for each site, 
but then you need IP addresses for each).

I have admined machines that run 100+ virtual hosts 
from one httpd.conf and it was fine. I currently admin
machines that run somewhat more and larger sites from 
individual httpd.conf files/processes...

For a small site with only 5 virtual hosts, I'm sure
one httpd.conf is ample and that you can fearlessly
add more virtual hosts, unless the machine is old and
seriously under-resourced or apache has to share 
resources on the machine with something big, like an 
oracle database (for example).

I recommend deciding on a standard virtual host config
and sticking with it, to reduce errors and confusion.

Erin  8)




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Re: [techtalk] Multiple virtual host question/Apache

2000-10-05 Thread Olivier Tharan

Le 05 octobre 2000 a 13:59, Yvonne Beever a écrit :
> Is there a reasonable limit to the amount of virtual hosts one should
> run on a server? For example, we're up to 5 virtual hosts on one web
> server (using Apache) and are considering adding another.  One opinion
> has been voiced that the more you add, the easier it is for things to
> break.

You can theoretically have up to 256 virtual IP aliases on one network
interface with Linux. As long as your network can handle the load and
you have enough RAM, it should be ok.

> My boss also asked about the number of httpd daemons running...
> Someone here added more daemons to the server, he said, and he was
> wondering if there were limits...

This is an Apache tuning thing: it can be a difficult task! The first
point is, you will not want to swap. Ever. Or else, your server
"thrashes" and things get worse than ever. I thus suggest you put as
many RAM as you can, 512 Mb or even 1 Gb if you can afford it, depending
on the load you expect.

Then, you can increase the number of max servers, and almost every
parameter which looks like MaxSomething or MinOtherThing in the Apache
conf files, _except_ do not let MaxSpareServers grow too high (leave it
to 15 or 25, like the default). The reason : every time a request hits
your Apache server, every spare server waiting for a connection will
"wake up", then only one will actually serve the request and all the
rest will go to sleep. That means many, many context switches for just
one request. Now imagine there are 100 spare servers and you being hit
at ~ 100 hits / second: your web server is slow, even though you have
enough RAM and you do not swap.

olive
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Re: Not using Netscape (was Re: [techtalk] Re: SMP on Linux (lock ups))

2000-10-05 Thread Chris J/#6



> Depends what 'slow' you mean. We have just graduated from a 28.8k modem
> to cablemodem (woo!). So everything on the net seems incredibly fast now!
> (Except sourceforge, but that's now usable rather than impossible.) 
> It now takes me a few minutes to download a nightly mozilla instead of
> a few hours (I jest not) so I have been doing so.
> 

The sort of slow I had was slow response and general sluggishness of the UI. 
However having last night downloaded the nightly build, I'm quite pleseantly 
suprised ... it's actually running at a usable speed... :)

Maybe there is hope for Mozilla after all ... (I'd come close to writing it 
off due to its UI performance issues).

Chris...


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Re: [techtalk] Multiple virtual host question/Apache

2000-10-05 Thread Samuel Lavenz

In response to Erin's comment...another thing you can think about is this:

If you use the Include directive...you can set up a seperate file for each
virtual hosts.  That is the way we do it where I work...we have many virtual
hosts.  But they each have their seperate config file...then we include them at
the end of our server httpd.conf.

That's my two cents :)

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